102 thoughts on “Obama Calls Himself a Tax Cutter

  1. tiredoflibbs December 1, 2011 / 1:39 pm

    He’s not a “spend liberal”? What a lie! He has outspent Bush in just 3 short years.

    PLUS, all his tax increases will be enforced after he leaves office. All his taxes to pay for his healthcare will hit in 2014 after he leaves office. Let’s not forget the taxes he has already passed one of which hits the poor the hardest – his increase in tobacco taxes. Let’s not also forget the cost of fuel has risen since taking office due to his policies and non-actions – those may not be taxes but he has increased the burden for all Americans. Those increase in fuel prices are reflective in food price increases and other necessities.

    This is just another lie in the long list of obAMATEUR whoppers. But don’t expect the obAMATEUR media to follow up or the average drone to question. They will just give him a pass and regurgitate his latest batch of dumbed down talking points.

  2. Chrissy Ann December 1, 2011 / 1:42 pm

    He didn’t cut my taxes and he must have missed the increases in federal excise taxes under his watch.

    • bardolf December 1, 2011 / 2:56 pm

      You don’t pay social security?

      • James December 1, 2011 / 5:21 pm
      • dbschmidt December 1, 2011 / 11:25 pm

        Well, for the previous several months I haven’t–nor will I for the next couple. I receive no government assistance as far as payments go yet the cost of my living (off what was my retirement funds) has doubled due to regulations and the BS buffoonery under this administration.

        What say you now?

      • neocon1 December 2, 2011 / 8:07 am

        47% pay NO federal tax
        53% pay LESS than 3% of all taxes…

        talk about stupid drones.

      • Chrissy Ann December 2, 2011 / 10:35 am

        James: Before you call someone “to stupid” you might want to consider it is “too stupid”.

      • bozo December 3, 2011 / 10:34 am

        Oh, snap! You’ve been pwned by the typo gestapo!

  3. Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 1:54 pm

    Hmmm, jobless claims up over 400k again. The food stamp president strikes!!!

    • neocon1 December 1, 2011 / 2:49 pm

      extending Bush tax rates is NOT cutting taxes.

      1.5 TRILLION deficit a YEAR = INSANITY!!

    • James December 1, 2011 / 5:22 pm

      Did you miss the previous 3 weeks when they were below 400k? they are at 406k……talk about WAYYYYYY over 400k.

      Ill make you a friendly bet, this months job reports will show more than 150k jobs created and unemployment will drop .1%…

      you want to bet?

      • tiredoflibbs December 1, 2011 / 5:53 pm

        Is this after the holiday seasonal employees are let go?

  4. bloodypenquinstump December 1, 2011 / 2:59 pm

    I don’t see any acutal facts in the post. That is surprising, shouldn’t there be some sort of spreadsheet or table of tax rates to back up any of your “facts”. You know the type I mean, a nice little graph made by some wingnut website that has lots of other posts about Obama’s birth certificate and how he faked the moon landing.

    • Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 8:11 pm

      The moon landing was faked. On Venus!! Lolol :P

  5. Ryan December 1, 2011 / 4:13 pm

    No matter who the president is, that man or women has no control of the price the U.S. pays for Petroleum. The only thing President Obama can do to lower the price at the pumps is open the the nations oil reserves.And he has done so it times when we need it the most.He also extended the bush tax cuts that allow companies like Exon/Mobil to make recorded profits and at the same time pay little to no taxes. As for the tobacco tax increase the money goes to health care for children that live in poverty. How do you see a problem in increasing the cost of something that Is the cause of death of an estimated 443,000 people each year so a kid can can go to the dentist without the parents spending hundreds of dollars they don’t have.the people who are for the republicans and the tea party need to know what you are talking about. And it is very simple read every bit of information on the subject not just what fox news tells you.

    • J. R. Babcock December 1, 2011 / 4:25 pm

      As for the tobacco tax increase the money goes to health care for children that live in poverty. How do you see a problem in increasing the cost of something that Is the cause of death of an estimated 443,000 people each year so a kid can can go to the dentist without the parents spending hundreds of dollars they don’t have

      Ryan, how does that work exactly? Are the extra tobacco taxes distributed to people with children to help them pay for dentists? What about smokers with kids; do they get the same amount?

      • ryan December 1, 2011 / 6:25 pm

        If you are truly asking me to explain every detail of The Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009 {CHIPRA Public Law 111–3} i am sorry but i can not because it is absurd to think it can be done in this manner of dialogue. I honestly hope you are trying to drag into an argument. Figure it out for yourself. Stop listening to people who want or feel the need to explain it to you and learn it on your own becuse you will never truly learn somthing until you do it on your own.

      • J. R. Babcock December 1, 2011 / 6:30 pm

        James, the headline in your linked USA today article says:

        “Tobacco tax increase expected to reduce smoking”

        They don’t really expand on the implications of trying to raise revenue by taxing something that will be reduced as a result of the tax increase. The Harvard Crimson has a much more comprehensive article about this topic.

        http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2010/10/20/tax-tobacco-revenue-costs/

        here ya go. why would money go to individual families instead of into a program that helps poor people’s kids go to dentists?

        Read your own statement a couple times, and let it sink in for a moment. How much of that money (assuming there is even an increase) actually gets in the hands of people who spend it. How much of it simply goes to SCHIP administration costs? That was my point. Plus, the increase in the tobacco tax overwhelmingly targets the very poor people whose children the program is designed to help.

      • J. R. Babcock December 1, 2011 / 6:36 pm

        If you are truly asking me to explain every detail of The Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009 {CHIPRA Public Law 111–3} i am sorry but i can not because it is absurd to think it can be done in this manner of dialogue.

        I wouldn’t think of asking someone with your limited mental capacity to attempt such a task.

      • ryan December 1, 2011 / 7:28 pm

        The fact that you resort to insulting me after i gave you a legitimate reason not to explain somthing that in no way can be done by going back and forth with you on this website shows how pathetic you are.

      • Cap'n Obvious December 1, 2011 / 7:30 pm

        Oh, nonsense Ryan. Since paying for the children’s health care is the responsibility of the governemnt go right ahead and light up, you don’t have to call yourself a man, call yourself a 99% and then demand someone else pays for you and your dozen or so kids! In fact, have a vodka since the government is paying for their food and cloths and housing too!

      • Cap'n Obvious December 1, 2011 / 7:30 pm

        33% of persons in poverty smoke and since only 52% of persons in poverty are adults, that means that means that 62% of adults under the poverty level smoke. That’s a majority ain’t it?

      • ryan December 1, 2011 / 7:53 pm

        Cap’n Obvious where did you get those statistics because they do not ask if you smoke on the cencus.

      • Cap'n Obvious December 1, 2011 / 7:59 pm

        If you’re expecting me to explain somker demographics, I am sorry but I cannot because it is absurd to think it can be done in this manner of dialogue. I honestly hope you are trying to drag a cantaloupe into an argument. Figure it out for yourself. Stop listening to people who want or feel the need to explain it to you and learn it on your own because you will never truly learn something until you do it on your own.

        And I sure as hell didn’t Google “smoker demographics.”

      • Cap'n Obvious December 1, 2011 / 8:02 pm

        Maybe my cencus asked when I was not around, it could happen as far as you know!

      • Cap'n Obvious December 1, 2011 / 8:07 pm

        Oh wow, how about that! Less than 60% in 2009; if it keeps dropping how – oh how will they pay for the medical care for those poor children? We’ve got to smoke MORE! Our nation depends on it!

        Since Obama has been president I think more people are smoking, drinking and shooting. I know I’ve been drinking more since you people elected him. A lot more; and the long lines at the unemployment office show I’m not the only one.

      • Cap'n Obvious December 1, 2011 / 8:14 pm

        But wait! Also according to the CDC at least half of all adults have or do smoke; http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m4021/is_ISSN_0163-4089/ai_75171026/ Now add cigars, pipes and chaw which are all subject to the S-CHIP tax and assume a higher incidence below the poverty level and et viola!

        Did you learn anything or do you have to come back tomorrow?

    • ryan December 1, 2011 / 8:19 pm

      Talking to you and Babcock is like watching a movie then having a child walk in halfway into it and being asked to explain it. Talking to you is pointless.

      • Cap'n Obvious December 1, 2011 / 8:41 pm

        Listen everyone; the true exasperated flailing of the infantile liberal waaaa you’re making me look foolish! Stop it!

        “The Bush Tax Cuts made profits for Exxon Mobil” (The Bush Tax Rate cuts had nothing to do with Exxon Mobil or CORPORATE TAXES “President Obama can (..) lower the price at the pumps is open the nation’s [strategic] oil reserves. And he has done so it times when we need it the most” (Wrong again, he did that Once in 2011, and it did not lower prices; it caused a drop in the market and cost millions $, and gas prices are higher than ever ).

        Let it go, boob, your rapid fire talking points prove only that you’ve learned nothing, and have very little capacity for learning since you’re driven exclusively by ideology.

    • Ryan Murphy December 2, 2011 / 9:32 pm

      Um. . wrong? If he removed the restrictions on drilling, exploring oil shale, pipelines and such. . the price of gas would drop tomorrow, even if the actual production took time to start.

  6. bloodypenquinstump December 1, 2011 / 4:25 pm

    “And it is very simple read every bit of information on the subject not just what fox news tells you.”

    If conservatives got their information elsewhere then the information would disagree with their preformed notions causing thinking, which hurts.

  7. tiredoflibbs December 1, 2011 / 5:52 pm

    obAMATEUR the tax cutter……..

    TAX INCREASES that are in effect and will be in effect:
    http://www.atr.org/comprehensive-list-obama-tax-hikes-a6433

    …. some of these affect low to middle income families.

    OOPS!

    But these lib drones will continue to regurgitate the dumbed down talking points – “obAMATEUR is not a tax and spend liberal”. Either way, the drones and the obAMATEUR are liars.

    No, he is more like a spend and tax liberal – spend now and tax later.

  8. Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 6:10 pm

    But,but ,but, The white house is going to have 37 christmas trees and a 400 hundred pound gingerbread house!! Wonder how long it will take the queen mooch to gobble that up?.

    Also, looks like they’ll need 36 more obaMoa decorations for the trees. Better get painting.!!!

    See you on the links!!

    All hail king putt and queen mooch!!!

  9. Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 6:26 pm

    Anyone want to buy a semi-auto ak-47 clone? Please contact E. Holder @ http://www.justice.gov/contact-us.html

    ¡Se hable espanol! ¡No hay preguntas!

  10. bloodypenquinstump December 1, 2011 / 6:31 pm

    “Wonder how long it will take the queen mooch to gobble that up?.

    Also, looks like they’ll need 36 more obaMoa decorations for the trees. Better get painting.!!!

    See you on the links!!

    All hail king putt and queen mooch!!!”

    Hey, I just got talking points bingo!!

    • Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 6:33 pm

      Thomas, no I just didn’t get my talking points. The Koch Brothers are late with thier payment…. again. :)

  11. Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 6:35 pm

    45 million Americans on food stamps. Can’t they all just eat arugula??

  12. Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 6:40 pm

    Does anyone remember a couple of years ago, after those big TEA Party rallies where the government had to clean up the messes the left behind. I still can’t get my head around the pics of workers having to do the clean up in haz mat suits. What a bunch of filthy people.

    Oh wait. That was the el lay ows site I am talking about. Sorry :P

  13. bloodypenquinstump December 1, 2011 / 6:48 pm

    “45 million Americans on food stamps. Can’t they all just eat arugula??”

    So you are saying conservative economics works because arugula sales are up?

    • Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 7:05 pm

      LOLzer, How did you arrive at that conclusion Thomas? Put down the crack pipe and beer bong . Then try again. :P

  14. Green Mountain Boy December 1, 2011 / 9:33 pm

    Bill O’Reilly just described Newt as a “hard core conservative” LOLzer. Whats BOR been smoking lately? Hope its being taxed!

  15. watsonredux December 2, 2011 / 2:06 am

    db, I feel for your plight, and you can blame Obama if you want. But the point is the President Obama HAS lowered taxes for the vast majority of Americans, whether you or Matt or tired want to accept it or not. As usual, Matt’s post is completely devoid of facts. Instead, it’s simply a partisan attack. Again, this comes from a man who complains about the hyper-partisan atmosphere in the country today, and once suggested that a remedy would be to take the election of US senators out of the hands of the voting public. His lack of self-awareness is remarkable.

    Meanwhile, I see that the Republicans voted against a bill that would expand the payroll tax break for the vast majority of Americans to $1500 per year, to be paid for with a 3.25% surtax on those earning more than $1 million a year.

    I guess this makes you happy. You’re out of work, but God forbid those earning a million a year or more pay a little extra.

    • watsonredux December 2, 2011 / 2:08 am

      Oh, and by the way, db, why don’t you hit up your buddies who make a million a year or more and ask them for a job. Isn’t that the way it’s supposed to work? Keep their taxes down so that they can hire people like you. Let us know how that works for you.

    • tiredoflibbs December 2, 2011 / 7:26 am

      wow, watty I see you regurgitate the party line to the letter!

      Harry Reid put politics before the “plight” of Americans to make tax increase issue a campaign issue since obAMATEUR CAN’T RUN ON ANYTHING ELSE.

      It is politics as usual for the Democrats. As I said and pointed to facts, obAMATEUR’s “tax cut” amounted to 1-3%, but that has been wiped out by increased food and energy prices and this “tax cut” theme will be eliminated when ALL of his health care tax increases come into full effect.

      Notice the political timing for these massive increases, AFTER THE ELECTION.

      Try again drone.

    • dbschmidt December 2, 2011 / 12:07 pm

      Since I have been cleared for work again by my doctor, I have started looking and within three days have four solid leads and the “owners” of all of the companies are multimillionaires at least–so “Thanks” for the tip Watson.

      On top of that I earn everything I ask for so if I am to be paid $100K per year — I had better make $250K for the company in order to justify my existence. I do not want your version “fairness” in the form of taxing someone that does better than me to justify a pittance for me. Wealth redistribution is wrong on so many levels but you haven’t grasped that concept.

      Finally, I was and am one for returning the election of Senators to the States they represent because that is one of the fundamental checks & balances that the founders put in to the Constitution for a reason but if you do not understand wealth redistribution–you and Sunny can have a long conversation as to why Representatives represent the people and are based on population, and the Senators (2 per State) are to be elected by that State’s legislature and are supposed to represent the interests of the State. Sunny doesn’t understand it either.

      • Canadian Observer December 2, 2011 / 2:46 pm

        “I have started looking and within three days have four solid leads”…dbschmidt
        ————————————————————————————
        In this terrible economy you are indeed fortunate to have so many solid leads. After losing your job due directly to one of Obama’s policies (which one, specifically?) it is truly heartening to know that there are still opportunities available to those highly skilled and motivated individuals such as yourself, db. Hope you are back to work ASAP, paying taxes to finance the high flutin’ lifestyle of all those ungrateful and freeloading parasites

      • dbschmidt December 2, 2011 / 10:14 pm

        Since you asked (so many times ~ as in gotcha?) I took a look for the actual name/number but since I no longer have access to the corporate infrastructure that was not possible but I will tell you in generic terms.

        A couple years back when ObamaCare was rammed through–we had our first series of layoffs and massive changes in contributions to our health care because of the passage. I avoided that round of cuts but our health care changed quite a bit each renewal period since. In the last “All-Hands” corporate meeting–the CFO stated that they were offering Early Retirement (I was just over 1 year shy of getting that) and cuts in personnel would follow depending on how many took ER. This was directly due to Cass Sunstein and regulations that increased our production costs by more than 20% while the Obama Administration was hedging on cutting the cost of repatriating profits made overseas.

        These two factors in conjunction with the new astronomical cost of health care forced them to cut the US workforce in order to not show a large drop in profits and meet expected goals in the marketplace. This time I did not miss the cut and even though I did receive a decent severance package–it still is not a job. At least all of the workers they employ in foreign nations were safe because they showed a large profit overseas.

    • Ryan Murphy December 2, 2011 / 9:34 pm

      You do know that that ‘surtax’ would have, even under faulty static assumptions. .get a total pf 21.5 billion? It wasn’t paying for jack. Its democrat class warfare, pure, simple, and unadulterated.

  16. tiredoflibbs December 2, 2011 / 7:21 am

    It is amazing the change in attitude by the liberals and their mindless drones when theirs is in the White House.

    According to them, FOREIGN TERRORISTS had civil rights and they were not to be treated as enemy combatants with military trials. Bush was violating their civil rights without due process.

    obAMATEUR can select American citizens turned terrorists as targets without due process.

    The double standard and hypocritical liberals strike again.

    http://news.yahoo.com/obama-lawyers-citizens-targeted-war-us-154313473.html

  17. watsonredux December 2, 2011 / 11:35 am

    Meanwhile, unemployment drops to 8.6%. Per the Journal, “The U.S. labor market strengthened in November as private employers continued to add jobs at a healthy pace, while the unemployment rate fell to its lowest level since March 2009.”

    What the heck are the Republicans doing?! Their self-professed single goal is to make President Obama a one-term president. This isn’t helping! How dare they allow jobs to be added to the private sector! Couldn’t they have done more to prevent this? Better getting busy making things worse for people like db, or God’s sakes.

    • Ryan Murphy December 2, 2011 / 9:35 pm

      The jobs barely rose. Meanwhile, the number of people LOOKING for them fell. That is not progress. We need the numerator to go down, not the denominator.

  18. Jeremiah December 2, 2011 / 7:24 pm

    “I heard the jobs are down nationwide with no outlook for good and people are tired of looking; BUT GOOD NEWS ~ God is hiring all you have to do is accept His Son JESUS; the wages are low, lots of hard work, many hours, lots of thorns, and not many takers but the benefits are out of this world.”

  19. dennis December 4, 2011 / 6:48 pm

    A little tutorial on how the economy really works:

    http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-12-01/raise-taxes-on-rich-to-reward-true-job-creators-nick-hanauer.html

    The author is founder of a venture capital company in Seattle who has helped launch more than 20 companies, including aQuantive Inc. (now Microsoft Advertising) and Amazon.com. I’d reckon he’s got more savvy about what does and (just as importantly) does not>/em> drive job creation than anyone posting on this blog.

  20. tiredoflibbs December 6, 2011 / 7:23 am

    wally whines: “No, you’ve screamed and cried and offered no evidence. But you think repeating something makes it true, so what more can be expected of you?”

    Says the drone that has only accepted facts that he wants to accept and ignore others.

    So wally, using your stupid logic:

    If you ignore the facts of accounting gimmicks in health care, then it reduces the deficit.
    If you ignore the facts of the number of people who are unemployed and have quit looking for a job BUT ARE STILL UNEMPLOYED AND WANT ONE then unemployment is 8.8%.
    Etc. etc.

    I can see if you create your own little wally’s world then what obAMATEUR says is true.

    Face it wally, you are the typical useful idiot drone the democrats love to have in their back pocket – taking everything they say as gospel, will not question it and mindlessly regurgitating it for all to hear.

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