Obamunism!

Jobless claims skyrocket.

Poverty rate shoots up.

Postal service loses $15.9 billion.

EU budget talks collapse.

Hostess a step away from liquidation (that is the twinkie maker, for you liberals out there).

FHA heading for collapse (that means that our fake housing “recovery” is just about over).

Philly Fed plunges.

Eurozone re-enters recession.

Layoffs.

Layoffs.

Layoffs.

But, don’t worry – its all Bush’s Sandy’s fault and with Bernanke about to deploy a depleted-hopium charged financial bazooka, all is well…

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61 thoughts on “Obamunism!

  1. Cluster

    But women can kill their unborn children without any restriction Mark. C’mon, you’re just ungrateful.

    1. M. Noonan Post author

      What I wonder is how soon before a lot of people who voted ‘Bams last week will start to regret it…

      1. GMB

        I do not think the common donk voter is capable of regret. This will somehow become the fault of us evil conservatives again.

        Meanwhile, Meghan McCain becomes the new face of the repub party.

        It’s burning and gas is being poured on the fire.

  2. mitchethekid

    An egg is not a bird or a reptile. Or a Platypus for that matter. An acorn is not an Oak tree and a zygot is not a child.

    1. tiredoflibbs

      bitchie: “An egg is not a bird or a reptile. Or a Platypus for that matter. An acorn is not an Oak tree and a zygot is not a child.”

      Tell that to the Federal Government that has FEDERALLY PROTECTED LANDS and BEACHES for nesting grounds to protect the UNBORN BIRDS and REPTILES! Those individuals who violate these spaces will be facing jail time. The lefty environmentalists will bend over backwards to lobby and get more grounds set up to protect the UNBORN animals. BUT for the UNBORN humans, the same lefties will push their legislatures to keep “laws” to SNUFF them out of existence.

      “a zygot is not a child.”

      However, it is LIFE. It does not have to be a “child” to be protected.

      Typical of bitchie, after being presented with THESE FACTS, he will return later to regurgitate the same dumbed down talking points like the mindless drone he is. His “metallic” avatar is perfect to represent the drone being controlled by another individual.

      Pathetic.

      BTW, before you continue your whine about me or anyone else calling you names, or belittling you, IT IS NOT BECAUSE YOU DISAGREE WITH US. NO. It is because you keep repeating the same stupid and brain-dead crap no matter what evidence is placed before you. You are belittled because of your inability to think for yourself and regurgitate or parrot the dumbed down talking points designed for the ignorant masses.

      Now go ahead and whine about incivility while the left is as uncivil as it can get and you remain silent like the typical hypocrite you are.

      Really, really pathetic, yet so typical.

      1. GMB

        Tired, please do not forget that he is a proven liar and now a plagiarist. He is a perfect representative of the left who say anything to try score a “gotcha”

        Why is he tolerated here when James gets auto zapped anymore?

    2. dbschmidt

      But an acorn will produce an oak tree (never a platypus or anything else) if nurtured. Same with a zygote becoming a child of this world.. But I guess that is of no importance to the liberals and progressives of the world.

      1. dbschmidt

        A acorn in the natural environment will become an oak tree while an implanted zygote (otherwise no need for an abortion) will become a human child. Technically, from your argument–you are nothing more than a zygote + x number of years. Abortion should still be an option. Or are you saying you are different because you were “born” liker the acorn produced a sprout?

        Then tell me why Obama leaned (like many Progressives) towards trashing those born during abortions. Kill actual liveborne? Then again, when does life start? Somehow, I am sure it is one day less than you are old. Being an old fart that believes that life begins at conception–I wouldn’t think twice about putting you and others like you out with the trash.

    3. Jeremiah

      Pro-abortion myth

      “2. “The unborn is not really human until it is born.” If it is not human,
      what is it? Is it mineral, vegetable, or animal? If it is animal life, is it horse, cow, pig, cat, or just what? To ask the question shows the foolishness of the argument! If a scientist could produce a fetus from non-living matter, he would assert in every scientific journal which would publish his material that he had “created” human life! But our abortion advocates deny that the unborn baby is human life!

      The only difference in an unborn and born baby is location and developmental size. Developmental size changes after birth just as certainly as it changes before birth. Hence, one could not rationally argue that the unborn is not human because of changes in developmental size.

      We protect the unborn of other species, why not protect unborn babies? Stealing an eagle’s egg or disturbing its nest is punishable by a fine of up to $5,000. Is this because an eagle’s egg is eagle life, a potential eagle? Perhaps, we need to declare babies an endangered species, so our laws could protect them. Inasmuch as 20 million unborn babies have been destroyed since 1973 in America abortuaries, being an unborn baby is probably the most risky time in a person’s life – more risky than exposure to other health risks such as cigarette smoke, cancer
      producing agents, etc.”

      http://truthmagazine.com/archives/volume34/GOT034026.html

      Written in 1990, so the number of abortions since then has nearly doubled or tripled.

      1. Jeremiah

        RE: Subject – “Then don’t eat. You’re killing life.

        Half of all food in the world goes to waste because there are not enough people to eat it all.

        Gen. 1:29 – And God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the face of all the earth, and every tree with seed in its fruit. You shall have them for food.

    4. Amazona

      An egg is not a bird or a reptile but it contains all the DNA that bird or reptile will ever have and IS reptilian or avian life. An acorn is not a tree, but it contains all the DNA that tree will ever have, and it is life. A zygote contains all the DNA that human being will ever have, and it is a human life.

      People have tried throughout civilization to rationalize the killing of other groups of people by claiming that the Others “are not really people”. This claim has been made of Jews, gypsies, American Indians, and black people, and the goal has always been the same—-to try to justify killing people who are in the way.

      Discrimination against a human being based on its age is still discrimination, and trying to add a scientific note to this discrimination by using words like “zygote” does nothing to change the fact that you are taking it upon yourself to determine the value of a human life by applying a very arbitrary criterion of age. Historically, whenever people have tried to claim that the victims of their genocide did not deserve to live because “they are not really people” they have not only been proven wrong but have been proven to be the agents of atrocities against mankind.

      1. ricorun

        Amazona: Discrimination against a human being based on its age is still discrimination, and trying to add a scientific note to this discrimination by using words like “zygote” does nothing to change the fact that you are taking it upon yourself to determine the value of a human life by applying a very arbitrary criterion of age. Historically, whenever people have tried to claim that the victims of their genocide did not deserve to live because “they are not really people” they have not only been proven wrong but have been proven to be the agents of atrocities against mankind.

        Well said. Then again, you seem to be STILL of the opinion that the millions of zygotes which have already been disposed of, not to mention the many hundreds of thousands who are packed in freezers, 99.9% of whom will ultimately to suffer the same fate, are just a distraction. You did not say that once, you said it multiple times, in spite of the fact that I’ve been very specific as to how your logic was wanting. So it can’t be that you didn’t understand the question or the implications of it. The only reasonable conclusion is that your ideology prevents you from appreciating the logic.

        At any rate, I will ask again: given your most recent statements, and given logic as it has always been, why isn’t invitro fertilization a big issue for you?

    5. bardolf2

      An infant is completely helpless and incapable of contributing anything to the survival of the species beyond simply its potential. Many ancient cultures and current cultures believe in infanticide based on these grounds alone. One could go the route of everyone for themselves and the histrionics of those who serve themselves by serving others seems to imply the US has become a jungle.

      In reality, in the 1860’s the United States fought a great civil war because of the belief that our dignity is measured by how much we help the defenseless. Today the US provides a safety net of social security, medicare, food stamps, housing etc. out of concern for those least capable of defending themselves in dog eat dog world.

      I always find it confusing that some on ‘the Left’ adore elite Supreme Court justices for having the presumption to declare who isn’t a human being in Roe v. Wade while some on ‘the Right’ adore elite Supreme Court justices for having the presumption to declare a corporate business structure is a human being.

      1. Amazona

        “I always find it confusing that some on ‘the Left’ adore elite Supreme Court justices for having the presumption to declare who isn’t a human being in Roe v. Wade while some on ‘the Right’ adore elite Supreme Court justices for having the presumption to declare a corporate business structure is a human being.”

        Aside from the obvious idiocy of claiming that Roe v Wade is a ruling regarding who is and who is not a human being, you go on to claim that some on the Right “adore” any Supreme Court justices and then that they “adore” BECAUSE of the ruling that a legal entity composed of human beings has the same constitutional right to free speech as the individual human beings who constitute it, and then you top it off by regurgitating the same nonsense the Left loves, which is that this is actually a declaration that the legal entity “is a human being”.

        Wow. One sentence, four bizarre misstatements. What a silly bunny you are, dolf.

        I think the only accurate part of your post is that you are confused.

      2. bardolf2

        Amazona you are quite the ninny lately.

        Of course Roe v Wade is a ruling about who is a human being. It basically said there is only ONE human involved in the abortion procedure namely the woman.

        Many on the right support ‘Citizens United’ which again gave rights to corporations or unions equal to those of real humans. Why don’t your individual cells get voting rights? Because they aren’t a human you dunderhead.

        Of course unions aren’t viewed as humans, they are superhumans. They don’t called up to serve in times of war e.g. They can’t be put in jail.

      3. Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots)

        What an absolute load of ‘dolf crap!

        Roe v. Wade did not, in any way shape or form declare who is and isn’t “human” or any variation on that sophomoric thesis.

        The issue was decided under the concept of privacy, and that the state’s interests were divided between the regulation of the medical procedure and the woman’s decision to have an abortion. The compelling interest of the state increases as the pregnancy proceeds as the medical procedure takes on different elements of risk as the child develops. The Court further ruled that the state’s interest in prenatal life was countered with the woman’s protection of her own, both requiring informed consent in conjunction with a physician.

        As Justice Alito stated clearly for the cameras at the state of the Union, the idiotic belief that Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission conferred personhood upon campaign contributors when acting on behalf of Corporations (or any other group) is Not True!

        Bonehead.

      4. ricorun

        Beancounter: The issue was decided under the concept of privacy, and that the state’s interests were divided between the regulation of the medical procedure and the woman’s decision to have an abortion. The compelling interest of the state increases as the pregnancy proceeds as the medical procedure takes on different elements of risk as the child develops. The Court further ruled that the state’s interest in prenatal life was countered with the woman’s protection of her own, both requiring informed consent in conjunction with a physician.

        Well said. And you argued it within the provinces of the Constitution, English Common Law as it pertained to the US, and medical science as it pertained at the time. Given that, the ruling sounds pretty reasonable — well, assuming no specific moral judgement is overlaid on the constitutional one. What you didn’t say is how you felt about the ruling. So, what say you?

    6. neocon01

      tell them that in Fla Bmitch where you do JAIL time and HUGE fines for even approaching sea turtle eggs……..DIMWIT!!

  3. tiredoflibbs

    Anyway, back on topic….

    Who is obAMATEUR going to blame now?

    The previous administration???? Oh, wait!!!

    The stock market continues it plunge…. which is worse?

    Did it plunge because obAMATEUR won? Or did it plunge because Romney lost?

    Either way, it shows that there is no confidence in the future of the economy and its recovery, which is bad for obAMATEUR!

    Another thing…. we keep hearing about tax increases from obAMATEUR and his “balanced approach”. The news is full of tax increases, tax increases and obAMATEUR talking more about tax increases!

    Has he proposed the other side of the “balanced approach”? Has he proposed any spending cuts? spending reforms? or anything else from the other side of the scale? – aside from his campaign when he was pimping for votes?

    Nope.

    1. dbschmidt

      The original two days of the stock market plunge is directly attributed to Obama being re-elected. Another first for him–biggest in Presidential history.

  4. Cluster

    Bitch, or I mean Mitch, excuse me,

    I would love to see you answer tired’s earlier post. Why do liberals protect the nesting grounds of unborn sea turtles and birds, but fail to protect the “nesting grounds” of unborn humans? Great question. Looking forward to your response.

    Economic misery over the next four years is a guarantee, and I hope and pray that the people who voted for Obama are hurt more than others. During that time, conservatives need to employ Chicago style tactics by targeting minorities and single women and factually demonstrate that the extreme positions of the democrats are actually hurting them and their families, as they were always designed to do, despite all the sincere promises. Obama shamelessly lied to them for the sake of his own power. The Democrats are extreme, out of touch with mainstream America, and unfit to govern this country.

    1. Retired Spook

      Economic misery over the next four years is a guarantee, and I hope and pray that the people who voted for Obama are hurt more than others.

      The first red flag to anyone with half a brain (most Democrats) should have been when Obama claimed time and time again that he was fighting as hard as he could for the middle class. I have yet to have anyone provide a satisfactory answer to how expanding the entitlement class and punishing the wealth-creating class helps the middle class.

      The only question that remains is; will the people hurt by the inevitable economic collapse pull themselves up by their bootstraps, relying on the spirit of entrepreneurship and rugged individualism that made America great, or will they simply attempt to take by force that which they’ve been getting for free? It won’t be long before we get the answer. For those of us who are prepared for any eventuality, the former would be preferable, but the latter could be a golden opportunity to significantly reduce the numbers of entitlementarians.

  5. Cluster

    Time to expose another loser. This is a response from some moron with the nphandle “truthshallsetyoufree” from the previous thread:

    Well, I just demonstrated that to be untrue, but beyond that, what about the massive economic growth that followed Clinton’s tax increases? What about the booming economy in the 1950s, when the top marginal rate was 90 percent? If you believe your quote above, you must also believe that these examples prove the efficacy of higher top marginal rates.

    Truthie might be surprised to learn that even Clinton thought when went a little to far:

    Speaking at a campaign fund raiser in Houston, Mr. Clinton said: “Probably there are people in this room still mad at me at that budget because you think I raised your taxes too much. It might surprise you to know that I think I raised them too much, too.”

    Following the 1993 marginal tax increase, the economy slowed to just over 3% growth, which is great by today’s standards but was anemic back then, and wages were stagnant. What helped is that Clinton kept spending in check, and then proceeded to lower the cap gains tax to 20% from 28%, and to sign welfare reform which successfully moved a lot of people of the government dole and back into the work force, in addition to keeping the dollar strong by refraining from any senseless QE, which Obama is a big fan of.

    Secondly, anyone who thinks that someone paid 90% in taxes, simply needs to have their head examined. Marginal rates mean nothing, but it is all liberals have. When you’re void of facts, you thrown out canards.

    Bring it on liberals. There is not one position in your favor and I look forward to bashing you about the head for the next four years.

    1. thetruthshallsetyoufree2012

      “When you’re void of facts, you thrown out canards.”

      Indeed–canards like “Obama is an empty suit” and “Democrats don’t care about the American people.”

      That is, of course, when you’e not outright lying, such as your claim that “tax cuts spur economic growth,” which has been disproven time and again. You seem at least dimly aware of that, which your retreat to “marginal rates mean nothing” demonstrates, although it does raise the question of why you are so adamant that top marginal rates must be cut when those rates “mean nothing.”

      “There is not one position in your favor”

      Except for all those positions that favored liberals on election day, of course. Good point.

      PS: As far as this goes:
      “Secondly, anyone who thinks that someone paid 90% in taxes, simply needs to have their head examined.”

      Nobody said that, so perhaps you should have your head examined, as you are seeing and/or hearing things.

      1. J. R. Babcock (@JRBabcock)

        Except for all those positions that favored liberals on election day, of course. Good point.

        Small-minded as you are, TruthSSYF, it’s clear you fail to see the irony in that. Absent mass forced reeducation camps, the only thing this election will result in is death and despair. And there are those of us who, if it’s the last thing we do, will see to it that you and those who share your views will be on the receiving end of that paradigm. I don’t think you have the slightest grasp of what lies ahead, but it ain’t gonna be pretty. It is gonna be fun to watch, though.

      2. Retired Spook

        Except for all those positions that favored liberals on election day, of course. Good point.

        Not really a good point, Truthie, as JR points out. Besides winning the presidential election and increasing the Donk majority in the Senate, what positions on November 6th favored Liberals? No President in the last 75 years has been re-elected with the unemployment rate as high as it is — and it’s going higher. No other President has been re-elected with economic growth as weak as it is since they began keeping such statistics in 1930, and Obama’s policies will assure that it’s only going to get weaker. No other President has been re-elected with the right track/wrong track numbers so stacked against him. The number of GOP governors (30) is at a 12-year high. The GOP-controlled House still controls the purse strings. I haven’t spoken to a single Conservative since the election whose resolve has been anything but strengthened.

        Other than free contraceptives and free abortions, what, pray tell, does a second Obama term offer anyone except those with their hands out? As JR alludes to, our side still has most of the guns, and the U.S. military will never, I repeat, NEVER side with Obama. And if you think that Obama’s cute little Kiddie Corps is going to be anything other than cannon fodder, you’re more delusional that I thought.

    2. tiredoflibbs

      Cluster, the FACT that practically most of the world was still recovering from World War II contributed to our boom in the 1950s. It had nothing to do with our tax rates. Plus we had many more deductions to offset those rates.

      BTW, “truthie” is our old buddy Wally, bodie, Monty,Jeffy, etc. He can change his name but not his dumbed down mentality.

  6. Cluster

    It’s now official – Hostess goes out of business and a reported 18,000 people will lose their jobs. Thanks to the unions.

    This Obama economy is really going well.

    1. bardolf2

      Putting Hostess out of business falls perfectly in line with Michelle Obama’s agenda of getting people to stop eating junk food. I wouldn’t be surprised if the unions weren’t encouraged to reject a 30 percent pay cut just so the Obamas could move ahead with their plot for world domination.

      Or maybe, the unions agree with Amazona that at some point one tries to maintain a standard of living by the limited means within ones influence or looks for another job.

      1. Amazona

        Oh my, I think dolf tried to make a funny. Hard telling, though. Was it a serious effort to address the intrusion into the private lives of Americans by the inhabitants of the White House? Was it sarcasm? Was it paranoia?

        No matter. It is just an example of what we here have come to call ‘dolfing’.

        But dolf, please do quote the comments you seem to think I have made about “…maintain(ing) a standard of living by the limited means within ones influence or look(ing) for another job.” Aside from being a very awkwardly constructed sentence, it doesn’t seem to make much sense, and it also appears to be attributing something to me which I don’t remember saying.

        That doesn’t even address the goofiness of claiming, as you seem to be, that union people feel that putting Hostess out of business is just a way of looking for another job to maintain a standard of living.

        I think. I am not yet fluent in dolf, nor do I want to be, realizing the realignment of brain cells this would require.

      2. bardolf2

        Amy defended Bain’s carving up companies to make things better overall form some people (usually those at the top) but finds problems with unions trying to leverage their tiny bit of influence to try and keep things stable for some people (usually at the bottom).

        The anti-union stooges in the USA are going to wind up working 7 days per week for below minimum wage and have their social security taken away. The intrusion of work into their lives will only increase and they’ll be happy to have a job. They will live thousands of miles from their children and say their kids are lucky to have a job. Of course the banality of living for these people will lead to lots of drinking and substance abuse.

        Maybe Amy could read what Abraham Lincoln thought about wage slavery and get back to us with some insights into what a liberal kook he was.

      3. Amazona

        dolf, didn’t even try to make sense of the latest example of dolfing. Hope it made you feel better, though.

      4. Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots)

        The anti-union stooges in the USA are going to wind up working 7 days per week for below minimum wage and have their social security taken away. The intrusion of work into their lives will only increase and they’ll be happy to have a job. They will live thousands of miles from their children and say their kids are lucky to have a job. Of course the banality of living for these people will lead to lots of drinking and substance abuse.” And cats will be having Sex with ducks, and we’ll all be forced to eat sand, and the Scary Corporations will kill everyone over the age of 30.

        Oh, the happy horseshit of the Union Bilge Mongers!

        Seriously though, I’ve always thought it would be a good idea to fire anyone that reaches the 6 month mark at any job, because that’s how long it takes the average employee to learn how to steal from their employer. In the case of teachers, I believe there is a class they take Goldbrick 101, which teaches them all how to do the least, and moan the most over how exploited they are for the sake of the children.

        I’ve never worked for a Union, never paid Union dues, and in none of the jobs I’ve held did I have to work 7 days, for a dollar an hour, travel thousands of miles to my office, offer up my children as collateral for furniture, eat sand in the company cafeteria, or be forced to watch unhinged arithmetic teachers foam at the mouth over absurd doomsday predictions. I’ve not seen any union that hasn’t outlived its usefulness since the dawn of the modern era. But, you keep holding on to that myth ‘dolf, somewhere a union is protecting a railroad fireman from being replaced at his coal tinder.

        Bonehead.

      5. ricorun

        Beancounter: I’ve never worked for a Union, never paid Union dues, and in none of the jobs I’ve held did I have to work 7 days, for a dollar an hour, travel thousands of miles to my office, offer up my children as collateral for furniture, eat sand in the company cafeteria, or be forced to watch unhinged arithmetic teachers foam at the mouth over absurd doomsday predictions.

        Given your situation, I find it hard to believe that you’ve never eaten sand in the company cafeteria. Perhaps you just didn’t realize it? But I particularly draw the line at your claim of never being “forced to watch unhinged arithmetic teachers foam at the mouth over absurd doomsday predictions.” How have you been so privileged? Lol! But let me step through the logic…

        First there’s the “arithmetic teachers” term — no one at the college level calls math professors “arithmetic teachers”. Whether they really are or not, no one calls them that unless they have some kind of axe to grind. I’m just sayin’. And okay maybe the clerical help, such as yourself, are not required to attend their lectures. Lucky you. On the other hand, my experience is that though many of them claim to work 7 days a week, 12 hours a day, for a dollar an hour, once all their expenses are taken into account their net is at least twice that. :-) So there appears no reason to offer up their children as collateral for furniture — unless it’s REALLY cool furniture, and Ikea doesn’t carry it.

        Second, I’m pretty sure that if a poll was taken among their collegial peers, math professors really would have the highest likelihood of being voted the “most unhinged”. And for good reason — as a group they really ARE crazy. At least in their personal lives. In their professional lives mathematicians obey the purest of ideologies: pure reason. They follow the numbers wherever the numbers take them. I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, I’m just saying it’s a necessity. And if it weren’t for them we wouldn’t have such concepts as irrational numbers, calculus, multidimensional statistics, relativity theory, string theory, topography, fractal geometry, and chaos theory, to name a few. But the problem is that too many mathematicians carry over their professional need for ideological purity to their personal lives. As a result, my personal experience it that mathematicians are the most interesting, frustrating, infuriating geeks on the planet. I guess you could say that except for the logic part they remind me very much of Amazona.

    2. Amazona

      Cluster, this is especially interesting given the recent refusal of utility companies in New York and New Jersey to accept help from non-union volunteers, preferring to keep millions cold and in the dark to show union solidarity.

      1. neocon01

        baldork

        lets see JOB, benefits, holidays……less pay
        NO JOB….loss of home, welfare, unemployment, loss of benefits

        PRICELESS!!

        Go Union = Bo BANKRUPT!!

      2. bardolf2

        Neoconehead

        You maintain your standard of living because the unions provided barriers to entry into your profession. I’m betting your kids and grandkids will find it harder to keep even your lifestyle.

      3. Amazona

        Or—-and I know this is a completely alien concept to the Equality of Outcome people—neo maintains his standard of living by being better at what he does than much of the competition.

        Outrageous, I know, but there you go. You know, that despised meritocracy that poses such a threat to the collectivist.

        I’m betting that neo’s introduction of a work ethic and the concept of EARNING business will ensure that his children and grandchildren not only enjoy the same level living but may exceed it—that is, if Big Brother doesn’t step in to “level the playing field” by penalizing the productive and rewarding the slugs.

      4. neocon01

        baldork

        the usual donk retort “You didnt build that” idiocy.

        I have seen the good and bad of unions,,,….the bad far outweigh’s the good. (see detroit)

      5. neocon01

        I’m betting your kids and grandkids will find it harder to keep even your lifestyle.

        That is THEIR problem, I haven given them the tools it is up to them to use them.

      6. neocon01

        baldork

        even your lifestyle.

        THREE pensions, MAX SS, 401K, business….yup even MY measly lifestyle.

      7. thetruthshallsetyoufree2012

        “the recent refusal of utility companies in New York and New Jersey to accept help from non-union volunteers”

        This is, of course, a complete and total falsehood, but if your performance the past few days is any indication, the fact that it’s a total falsehood will not in any way, shape, or form dissuade you from continuing to believe it and insist upon its veracity because after all, inside the bubble, it’s true as long as you believe it!

      8. Amazona

        Oh, truth, you’re just sulking because you got caught out, afraid to answer my question about why you are here and then realizing that not answering is an answer itself. Poor baby, tried to posture as a political commentator but got called out as just a wannabe blog vandal.

        But you keep dragging that “bubble” thing around with you like a tattered old blankie, your security totem, for comfort.

        You got called as a phony, poor little thing, and it stings. Too too bad.

      9. Amazona

        BTW, truthie, you might try reading your own links instead of just the headlines. Your link supports the information that some workers were given union requirements to be able to work. So much for your complete and total falsehood sniveling.

        But I guess if your sole purpose for being here is to slime and smear conservatives and call us names, this is what you are going to do. Nor surprise there. It was just fun to call your and your kind out, and see what you would do.

        What we got was the blog equivalent of cockroaches scurrying when the lights come on. mitche suddenly became a mythical hero whose goal is to save us all from ourselves, and Velma admitted she only comes here to try to cause trouble (no surprise there). You declined to answer, but in doing so actually DID answer.

        You guys are so transparent, and so silly. But SOOOOOO nasty. Yecchhhh.

      10. thetruthshallsetyoufree2012

        You get caught mindlessly parroting falsehoods, and that makes me a phony? Geez, the bubble really does warp your mind. You need to get out of there, pronto. Hopefully doing so will help you with your ongoing problem with facts and honesty.

      11. Amazona

        I come to a political blog to discuss politics.

        You come to a political blog to attack, insult, and in general wallow in a pathology driven by hatred.

        This makes you the phony.

        Which you tacitly admitted when you refused to answer the question about why you are here, and which you illustrate every time you post.

  7. irisspirit

    I say let’s just blame the unions for everything wrong with our economy.

    “But while headlines have been quick to blame unions for the downfall of the company there’s actually more to the story: While the company was filing for bankruptcy, for the second time, earlier this year, it actually tripled its CEO’s pay, and increased other executives’ compensation by as much as 80 percent. ”

    I am sure that has nothing to do with Hostess closing all of its bakeries.

    1. tiredoflibbs

      Wow Velma, “if you strike we will close those bakeries affected” seems pretty cut and dry.

      I am sure unions can’t be greedy either. The union put their needs ahead of their members now the are out of a job rather than work with the company to reorganize.

      Fact is, a bankruptcy judge would not have let those pay increases happen (if they really did) – any lawyer would know that! Oh wait, I forgot, you are a lawyer in name only who reviews POs and ITAR regs any competent person could understand.

      1. Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots)

        Velma is just repeating the Thinkprogress disinformation campaign.
        The facts are; prior to filing for bankruptcy protection earlier this year, the company converted the incentives, bonuses , options and perquisites onto the GL under Compensation. The amount received (past tense) didn’t change, there were no “raises” no one’s salary “actually tripled” it was a filing formality the bankruptcy court was aware of. Creditors filed a complaint about this procedure and the Courts will determine if it qualifies under GAAP.

        Velma is either too stupid or too lazy (or both) to research the facts.

        I stand by my contention that no one this stupid, this lazy could be a lawyer. The person posting as irisspirit is a fraud.

    2. Amazona

      Count, she is that lazy, and stupid enough to not know what she was reading even if she had made a little effort.

      No, Velma just lines up at the trough and slurps the slop tossed to her by her minders, and then runs squealing like the little piggy she is over here to vomit it back up and then admire her mess.

      BTW, have you noticed her silence on the fact that the company she works for does so much business overseas and has foreign branches? I guess that’s OK if you are not Bain Capital.

  8. Cluster

    Count,

    Good point on union membership. I have never belonged to a union, nor would I ever belong. I hardly need anyone other than myself to protect my wages and benefits. I find that very concept to be strange. And yet, I have never been taken advantage of by evil corporations.

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