Open Thread

Over the years, I’ve written a bit about how I hold one of the most decisive moments for civilization was the French quitting in Algeria. I’m just reading a book about it – A Savage War of Peace, highly recommended – and I’m just past the part where DeGaulle is returned to power (very much due to the political stresses caused in France by the war in Algeria) and he’s reforming France and sent out a first-rate military commander to Algeria who pretty much whacked the Algerian rebels from pillar to post. That is now the end of 1959. The bottom line is that France had won the war – the Algerian rebels were still here and there in the interior, but only in small, hunted groups and even many Algerians were tired of it all. And then, over the next two years, DeGaulle just gave it all away to the rebels. This has been held as wisdom: France had to get out of Algeria and DeGaulle cleverly played up to those who didn’t want out until he was strong enough to dispense with them and make a deal with the rebels. This, to the Ruling Class in the West, was the only way to go. But, was it?

First off, it involved the betrayal of more than a million French citizens in Algeria; about 10% of the total Algerian population. It also involved the betrayal of at least 100,000 Harkis – these were Muslim Algerians who fought for France. Their numbers may have been even higher. This was more active fighters than the rebel ALN army had. By a lot. And you figure that for the 100k fighters, gotta be at least some family/friends who were supportive, so that might work out to another million people there who clearly preferred to remain part of France. They were completely screwed over by the French government. The French citizens were evacuated (though some were killed on the way out) while the Harkis, considered traitors by Algeria’s new masters, were killed, imprisoned or otherwise made to suffer for many years after the war.

Now, why bring this up? Because what France did was cross a bright, red line. At the end of the day, they passed power over to a group of people who, in the course of the war, routinely targeted unarmed non-combatants for death…and not just death, but often quite horrible and cruel death. In the end, Algeria did have to be independent: their current population is 44 million against France’s 67 million and it is just about impossible for that to be a colonial relationship. But recognizing the inevitable doesn’t get one off the hook for basic morality. It was a crime – a French crime – to turn the people of Algeria over to a pack of brutes, which is all the ALN ever was. The correct course of action was to simply state that this would never happen – that the future of Algeria was going to be decided by decent people, not by those who set bombs in stores or tortured people to death. The Ruling Class holds that you simply make the deal with whomever is fighting you – end the war by any means necessary. Decency requires that you only give into brutes if they are so strong there’s no way to stop them. France had won. All they had to do was keep up the pressure until the rebels quit and then – only then – would it have been time for France to work with those Algerians who weren’t brutes about what came after French rule.

And so it has gone over and over again since the end of World War Two: repeated fights between civilization and barbarism where civilization – massively restricting its use of power – still comes out first against the barbarians and then civilization just hands things over to the defeated savages. No wonder they keep at it. If you wonder why, say, the Palestinian leadership keeps it up it is because of this: they know, from nearly a century’s experience, that if you just keep being savages and merely manage to survive the retaliation, you’ll eventually be handed all you wanted. This has to change if we are to save civilization. The barbarians have to be taught that the wages of savagery is death and nothing else but death.

Fauci helped create the Coronavirus and then, from his perch, pretty much ensured our response to it would be counter productive. He’s either stupid or a traitor: I go with stupid. I recall that he’s only famous because he stood athwart Reagan during the AIDS epidemic.

Yesterday was Tank Man day: the anniversary of when that guy stood in front of the tanks at Tiananmen Square. What was entirely unsurprising was China’s efforts to censor references to it. The tech giants got caught and had to quickly re-adjust their algorithms, but for a while there a search of “Tank Man” brought nothing related to China up. Meanwhile, Facebook banned Trump for two years while China’s accounts were up and running, spewing out lies all the time. Our large corporations are owned by China: they have to go. If it takes confiscation, they have to go.

In the deep blue cities, the long term result of Floyd’s death has been a massive spike in crime, and a lot more black deaths. But, hey, at least they weren’t killed by cops.

14 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Retired Spook June 6, 2021 / 9:48 am

    Over the years, I’ve written a bit about how I hold one of the most decisive moments for civilization was the French quitting in Algeria.

    I think we may be looking at a decisive historical moment of our own, depending on how much really bad legislation the Dems are able to push through before the mid-terms.

    • Amazona June 6, 2021 / 12:53 pm

      We’ve got only a year and a half to block the worst, and very little legislation cannot be overturned or revoked. The only permanent changes I can think of would be naturalization and adding new states and it would take longer than 18 months to ram them through.

      As for voting, it is up to us to force our state legislatures into legislation that gives us some control over what happens not just in the voting but in the counting.

  2. Amazona June 6, 2021 / 11:07 am

    This is the kind of grass-roots pushback against Leftism I am talking about–the open ridicule of Leftist positions and policies backed by fact.

    In a searing YouTube video, [Liberty Oilfield Services CEO] Wright calls out The North Face for their hypocrisy and “thanks” them for their patronage despite their ignorance.

    “Over 60% of all clothing fibers are made out of oil and gas. For North Face it is likely 90% or more. North Face is not only an extraordinary customer of the oil and gas industry, they are also a partner with the oil and gas industry.”

    And no, this kind of thing won’t result in an explosive reversal of Leftist influence. But just as I am seeing a kind of giggle at the grocery store when someone is wearing a mask, and the posture of maskers starting to shift from defiant to sheepish, I think pushback like this will start to erode the arrogant efforts of the Left to occupy the Higher Moral Ground.

  3. Amazona June 7, 2021 / 10:23 am

    How to Resist…. Effectively!

    To this I would add—ask questions. The most powerful question is “why?” as in “why do you believe that?”

    The man doing some work on my house said he doesn’t like Trump because Trump is responsible for violence against Asians. (His girlfriend is Korean.) I just asked “why do you believe that?” He looked completely taken aback, and finally stammered “well, he said that the virus came from China”. I just replied “well, didn’t it?” and he said yes, it did. It was a very short exchange, not confrontational, but illustrative of the fact that people just accept things without any analysis and simply being asked “why?” points that out.

    • Retired Spook June 7, 2021 / 11:44 am

      Lots of really good ideas.

  4. Amazona June 7, 2021 / 10:47 am

    I gave in and went on Facebook, because I was told the Marketplace was a good place to advertise some stuff I want to sell, and I follow a few old friends there. I saw an interesting post the other day that I think illustrates a subtle but very important difference in the way we communicate and think.

    Basically, it was that the 2nd Amendment does not give us the right to bear arms, it prevents the government from interfering with that right.

    We need to keep focused on the fact that the Bill of Rights does not convey rights to us, but instead protects rights we already have. When we buy into the concept that the Constitution in any way GIVES us rights, we also buy into the idea that it can take them away, and that is a dangerous belief.

  5. Amazona June 7, 2021 / 10:57 am

    Here’s an idea about dealing with “woke” corporations—let them deal with the consequences of their own hypocrisy.

    Let’s say that Coke has a big market in countries where homosexuality is a crime and where the very idea of transgenderism is rejected. So run big ads in those countries showing Coke as a sponsor of Gay Pride parades and the whole LGBTWhatever movement.

    Advertise the support of Planned Parenthood by corporations doing a lot of business in culturally conservative and/or religious countries where abortion is not accepted, but is reviled.

  6. Amazona June 8, 2021 / 10:55 am

    Was Covid-19 related to research into bioweapons? Well, that’s just crazy talk.

    Just like saying Fauci was involved, or that US dollars helped fund it.

    Just plain crazy

  7. Retired Spook June 8, 2021 / 4:35 pm

    Parents across the country are starting to push back against their kids being taught critical race theory. This lady is really passionate.

    • Cluster June 9, 2021 / 1:54 pm

      Good for her. And I think we need to make Hunter Biden the poster child as the perfect Democrat. Drug addicted, emotionally challenged, sex addict, woman abusing, racist who has never had a real job in his life yet worth millions, and let’s not forget that he f**ked his dead brothers wife. Such a high quality man and really the perfect Democrat.

      • Amazona June 10, 2021 / 8:09 am

        f**ked his dead brothers wife before said brother even died……while making moves on said brother’s young daughter

      • Cluster June 10, 2021 / 3:01 pm

        I encourage everyone to watch Tucker Carlson’s interview with Charlie Kirk on Fox Nation. Amazing. At just 27, Charlie is an impressive man. He speaks of Faith, Family, Foundation and “Permanence” and a transcendent order that is so critical to humanity and the spiritual well being of not only the individual but of the country as well. Definitely worth the subscription cost, and then of course watch the interviews with Daniel Murray and J.D. Vance. These interviews will give great clarity on where conservatism is headed

      • Retired Spook June 10, 2021 / 4:15 pm

        Charlied Kirk is one of the really bright stars on the Conservative side of the aisle.

      • Cluster June 10, 2021 / 7:15 pm

        And Candace Owens. Two young, bright, conservative thinkers who are building a conservative movement in the right way. Faith, family, and freedom based. And you know what? That’s an anti corporation platform which is a huge 180 for republicans. Godspeed.

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