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For each of you out there, who care about those who are ‘polluting’ the Republicans campaign with the “Obama Smear Machine” being used at ABC regarding personal attacks against Newt Gingrich(Each, will get their turn at being smeared,I’m sure) I received an email from MRC with the numbers to call to voice our disgust. Didn’t these dolts learn anything about what Dan Rather tried, in smear tactics against Bush, when Dan tried to influence a national election. I am so disgusted with this type of smearing any person who is Republican/Conservative, vs. They DON’T do it to Democrats. It’s the Chicago Way, Obama’s Way. Please call:
ABC-News President, David Westin @ 818 460-7477
ABC-News Executive Driector, Jeff Winn @212 456-2700
We ALL need to stop this total bias against ourselves. Many thanks, Jo
Jo, you obviously didn’t see Newt’s video attacking Romney? It’s not just Dems attacking Republican candidates.
unpatriotbaddy1
usual deflect alinsky 101
The best debate so far last night – everyone did well, including Paul. I also like the fact that these guys are debate hardened, having gone through so many, and are very well prepared to debate in the general. Newt’s opening salvo was HUGE and spot on. I think that line about the media resonated in every conservative household out there. Right now, either Newt or Mitt can win, so let’s continue to vet those two, pick our favorite, and win the POTUS. 2012 will be a good year
Cluster
I don’t think Newt can win personally. Do you think Paul and/or Santorum could win and why should we be vetting only Mitt and Newt?
I’m still not a Gingrich fan, but, for those of us who were around and followed politics back in the early 90’s, the contrast between how the media treated Clinton and how they’re treating Gingrich is stark. People liked what Clinton said and the way he said it so much that the majority overlooked some really serious character flaws, and the media was complicit by pretty much giving him a pass. The standing ovations in the last two debates for Gingrich answers would seem to indicate that people like what he says and the way he says it — the media, not so much.
“the media, not so much.”
And it is about friggin time. The GOP needs to understand that we elect them and not the media. It is about time somebody stop carring what libbie media says about them. They never will love us and do anything, say anything to bring about thier socialist utopia.
Who cares what that fellow Maddow over at msdnc thinks anyway?
Keep it up Newt. If Mr. Santorum can’t break through and win it all, I may have to cast my lot with you.
GMB
my thoughts exactly….
baldork
the GOP front runner is always
vettedSHREDDED by the commie “news”the D left, NEVER!
Spook
The audience in the debates is a small part of the American electorate. Once again, Bill Clinton cheated but had the woman he cheated on next to him supporting him. That allows the media to portray Clinton as a ladies man, which the American public secretly admires. Newt is just seen as a creep and again he is a 2X adulterer.
What was great about Newt’s response wasn’t that it was genuine. It was “pious baloney” as Newt would say. The greatness of the response was in its theatrical delivery. He was well rehearsed for the question and delivered one of the great “Have You No Sense of Decency?” soliloquies I have ever heard. That attack on an unpopular media put South Carolina back into play, and perhaps even Florida.
barstool,
I think everyone is grossly underestimating the disdain that so many Americans harbor for the dishonest media and their efforts to protect and promote the liberal agenda. What Newt said resonated across millions of living rooms last night, and has energized the conservative movement.
The public secretly admires a “ladies man”? Are you serious? Edwards a ladies man, Spitzer a ladies man, JFK a ladies man, McGreevey a ladies man…err..a gay’s man, etc. Clinton didn’t have the woman he cheated on standing next to him..if she had she wouldn’t have saved the blue dress!!!!
And if you meant Hillary…….she didn’t care if Bill cheated…she had no moral code either.
@Chrissy Ann
You might not think Bill is charismatic but many women do (and John Kennedy was as well). As for Eliot Spitzer or Edwards or McGreevy, I don’t think they were ever perceived as ladies men. In fact while Clinton’s trysts were well known, the latter men had to hide theirs.
@ Clueless
I don’t think anyone is underestimating the disdain for the media, quite the contrary I think Newt played the obvious public disdain for the media to perfection. Newt’s remarks work for precisely the same reason that Welch succeeded with his quote “Have you no sense of decency, sir?”, that is the public despised McCarthy.
baldork
for four years we heard sex was a private matter, it had no place in politics, it did not count for doing the job at hand….that was through BJ’s, rapes, cigars, perjury, fines, impeachments, buew dresses, DNA and bent d***s.
Now it suddenly matters?
wha hoppon?
That’s my point bardolf, many Americans now associate the media with the democratic party, so Newt’s comment, and the audience’s reaction, was aimed not only at the media, but to liberals as well.
“for four years we heard sex was a private matter, it had no place in politics, it did not count for doing the job at hand….that was through BJ’s, rapes, cigars, perjury, fines, impeachments, buew dresses, DNA and bent d***s.”
Neoconehead, you didn’t hear that in church. You didn’t hear that on Fox News. Whoever told you that probably doesn’t like Newt anyhow. OTOH Newt did lead the impeachment against Clinton who perjured himself about sexual peccadilloes alone. Newt is technically correct that impeachment is about the lying.
But being technically correct is on the level Hell’s newspaper below noting that Rielle Hunter wasn’t singing at a national basilica, eventually getting Edwards to convert to her religion all while being an adulteress.
“I am tired of the elite media protecting Barack Obama by attacking Republicans.” – Newt Gingrich
This needs to be said every single day!!!!
And par for the course, the ignorant media STILL doesn’t get it:
On Thursday morning, CNN’s Soledad O’Brien suggested that candidate Newt Gingrich speaks with a “racial coding” on the campaign trail. She gave credibility to former President Carter’s bizarre remark about Gingrich having a “subtlety of racism” about him, asking her panel if the quote was a “bombshell.”
Conservatives are simply tired of stupid people, and by definition, liberals are mind numbingly stupid. Soledad O’Brien isn’t fit to be a journalist.
hate. raaaacism, attack, smear, scorched earth policy it is all the donk/communist party USA has. Joe would be sooo proud!
Maybe the 2nd Mrs. Gingrich…you know, the one who felt betrayed and whined to ABC about it….. should explain why she had an affair with a married man.
Monogamy is tough…..it takes love, commitment, being crazy in love with each other, bonding, shared goals and insights, moral grounding, and did I mention love? and adoration.
Poor John King, he looked shocked and he should of..he got spanked. The debate on whole was a disappointment. The last one was more informative.
PATHETIC
Kennedy, a drunk, a lout, a serial adulterer D, NO problem
Klintoon, a doper, a lout, a rapist, criminal harasser, liar, impeached, disbarred, disgraced our country, D NO problem
barry HUSSEIN, a druggy, commie, fake, fraud, usurper, muslim, hung with the most vile racists, killers, gangsters, terrorists, homosexual, liar, D NO problem
john edwards, ambulance chasing shyster, cheat, liar, adulterer, D NO problem
je$$e jackass, liar, cheat, extortionist, fake, fraud, race hustler, D, NO problem
bwany fwank, doper, flaming homosexual, bath/prostituion house out of his apt my male hooker-“lover” (ugh) D. NO problem
etc etc etc
Newt, is divorced and had an admitted affair, R BIG problem….OMG what a lack of character………
neo: and don’t forget JImmy Carter a racist to the hilt. Remember he supported Democrat segregationist governors. He gets a pass for his racism.
McGreevey, a Democrat governor married and having an affair with his gay lover.
Spitzer..a Democrat having multiple affairs with paid prostitutes.
Weiner..A proud progressive Democrat…need I say more.
Chrissy
and who can forget the (viet nam vet) john sKerry, fake fraud, jigelow, dishonorably discharged, band aid “wounded”, command abandoning, coward, D, NO problem.
. . . . And Sarah Palin and unfit to govern greedy has been.
Knowing that Palin is no longer in politics, nor currently pursuing any office, I am surprised to see liberals continue to obsess over her. But I think major has the hots for her. Is that true major?
Cluster no more so than some of you do with the Clintons.
And the new or at least recycled pejorative of the rabidly radical Left is “GREED”.
I’m sure that if the major pain had ever had a single talent for which anyone was willing to pay anything, s/he would have nobly turned it down and walked away, secure in his/her position on the Higher Moral Ground.
Of course, none of these losers can articulate any reason why accepting remuneration for a service or product someone else wants to purchase is bad. Or wrong. Or “greedy”.
Sour grapes and a pathetic reach for something, anything, with which to try to smear a bright, accomplished and successful woman. In other words, exactly what we expect from RRL dupes and drones.
neo, too many people today don’t even KNOW that Teddy Kennedy, a married man, was having an affair, and while drunk was driving his girlfriend to a ferry, took a wrong turn, and drove into the water.
So they don’t know that Kennedy, a strong swimmer, got out of the car and swam across the bay to the mainland, where he and his staff decided that the political fallout of being caught with a girlfriend outweighed the fact that he had left her in the car to die, alone and struggling to get out.
When her body was found, there was proof that she survived the accident and had been frantically trying to claw her way out of the submerged car while Kennedy and his friends sat in a nice warm dry hotel room trying to figure out how to handle the situation to avoid embarrassment to him or damage to his political career.
He didn’t even REPORT the accident so someone else could go looking for the car and possibly rescue the girl.
To me, no other character flaw of any other candidate can even hold a candle to this callous sacrifice of this young woman’s life, and the Democrat Party idolized this man, elevating him to the status of THE LION OF THE SENATE.
(And it’s not as if he led a good life after this incident. He remained a drunk, a serial adulterer, and a licentious reprobate for his entire life.)
Since Santorum now has finally been given Iowa, Romney won in his backyard in New Hampshire and if Gingrich from Georgia wins in South Carolina, this nomination process is not over.
I don’t know if Gingrich prepped for such a question or if his instincts brought out what was said. But what I do know is that there is a definite difference between Gingrich and Romney in handling tough questions. Romney did not answer his tax question well at all, generating some boos from the audience. His stammering answer to a question his campaign should know is coming and the candidate should be prepared for, before he steps on stage, was not good. I know that Gingrich can go all over the map and Romney’s experience on the stage makes him adequate in normal circumstances. I don’t know if it’s the campaign’s strategy to play it cautious or what but Romney does seem to be too vanilla, conveys a lack in personal passion when he speaks, except for his experience in the private sector. But his responses to issues as his record as governor and the benefits from a capitalist system sound too rehearsed and repeated from one debate to the next. That usually is doable but the amount of debates their has been, considering it’s before a national audience, that audience has heard it before. Making Romney appear plastic, manufactured, not real.
Many in the talk show host venue, especially Bill O’Reilly, believes all these debates are overkill but I find them necessary. Not only for vetting candidates but allows the Republican party have a greater national megaphone on the daily missteps of the current administration. Keep them going.
hells forker folly
differences between what they have seen in the scandalous past
Bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
you Fn loons kill me.
OUR guys
YOUR POS
Callista Gingrich needs to explain what happened to her deeply held religious values while she carried on a six year affair with a married man.
The only thing that needs to be explained is the medias blatant bias, and protection of Obama and the liberal agenda, and the democrats dishonest personal attacks.
Of course someone like Major who shares a brain with other collectivists, rather than using her own, would be incapable of answering.
Gentlemen is there any doubt that this affair took place? If that answer is no then the actions of Bill Clinton which many on the Right said made him unfit to hold the office of President must be examined and compared to the actions of Mr Gingrich. Conservatives are setting themselves up to have a woman who committed a mortal sin [fornication] and an man running for President who committed adultery [admitted] . If forgiveness is possible for Gingrich why not Clinton and since neither man has proven they have stopped their adulterous ways why would anyone prefer Gingrich over Romney? To do so is hypocrisy! What is it that makes Romney so unpalatable?
What Cluster is dishonest? Callista pursued Newt until he decided to break his marriage vows. How is reporting that any different than what the media reported [ and rightly so] about Gennifer Flowers or Paula Jones [both proven cases of adultery on the part of President Clinton]?
It’s not any different and it has been reported. What’s laughable is your attempt to paint all conservatives as hypocrites if they support Gingrich. What you fail to understand is that not all conservatives care that deeply about others personal matters, such as myself, along with not understanding the Christian doctrine of repentance and forgiveness. Both Gingrich’s have repented and asked for forgiveness, and most, if not all, of their Christian brethren are willing to extend that to them.
Cluster all We are saying is where was Callista’s Faith when she had the decision to make to pursue this married man or not to pursue this married man. I would aske the same question of Monica Lewinsky or Rielle Hunter. But as was said above neither of these women were doing the things that gave the appearance of great Faith and strong values as Callista Bisek did. Simply put this is just another case of partisan believers no matter their party putting aside their personal values to gain some political victory.
Callista owes every American who calls themselves a Chrsitian an explanation before her husband qualifies to get their vote!
Callista’s faith then is not important. It her faith now, or at least the moral values she has acquired and adopted, that we should look at. We all make mistakes, we all sin, we all have something in our past we look back on with regret. But we try to learn from our mistakes and become better people, even though this goal doesn’t always come along till we have right and royally screwed up for a long time.
Newt and Callista didn’t hold a press conference and trot out a whole roster of pastors to announce a big prayer-fest to illustrate their remorse and the changes in their hearts and lives. No, they simply evaluated their pasts, recognized their actions as selfish and dishonest, and as far as anyone can tell quietly and sincerely made the decision to live their lives differently from that point on.
I notice that the Complicit Agenda Media and the RRL carrion eaters who are so gleefully rolling in the carcass of the failed Gingrich marriages have not bothered to ask Marianne what makes her so different from Callista. After all, they both slept with a married man—the same married man. While she is pointing a finger at Callista and Newt, she is overlooking the fact that three fingers are pointing back at her, and those who are so exuberant about dredging up old not-news are ignoring the viciousness of a scorned woman who has bragged that she can now, after all these years, get her revenge. (Or do you think bragging that she can scuttle Newt’s political career is not based on vengeance?) Just as they are ignoring the fact that Marianne was the original Other Woman in the Newt Saga.
I think the only thing that came out this last week that ought to hurt Newt was Santorum’s comments that he worked with Newt, was in the House when Newt was the Speaker, that Newt had “an idea a minute” but was undisciplined and could not follow through, and that he is not a leader. That, to me, carried far more weight than the spiteful sniping of an adulterer trying to make a big deal out of someone else’s adultery.
Russ,
Does it bother you that Newt has described his foreign policy views as “Wilsonian” or that he considers FDR as the greatest president of the 20th century, or that, like McCain, one of his political heroes is the founder of the Progressive movement, Teddy Roosevelt? Does it bother you that many, if not most of the legislators who worked with Newt back in the 90’s can’t stand him? Does it bother you that he was forced to resign, not only his speakership but his congressional seat largely due to actions, not of the Democrats, but of his own party?
I can’t speak for Russ, but none of that bothers me much. I think people, thinking people that is, evolve and mature with age and I think Newt at this stage in his life is more conservative, more measured, more disciplined and more prepared to be POTUS. Plus, I like people that have been banged up a little in life, and of whom are still in the game.
JR,
I always hold up Teddy Roosevelt as a shining example to my kids, so that in school they could school the teachers who think FDR was the best President ever. As for FDR being the ‘greatest’ presiden in the 20th century, I would have to agree, though I like Reagan the best, however FDR did ‘great’ things, bad things, but they were ‘great’.
When Newt was ‘forced’ to resign, it was a case of an ignorant group of Republican insiders thinking that if they sacrifice Newt then the voters would continue to vote them in. They were wrong. The only reason he was ‘forced’ out was to help those who ‘forced’ him out politically. Yes, it bothers me that he was forced to resign due to actions of his own party, I would prefer that someone would be forced to resign due to their own actions.
Cluster,
While Wilson was a progressive, they’re four points in his foreign policy that can be made with Wilsonianism, it was to spread democracy, open markets, promoting an international organization dedicated to keeping peace and an active global role for the United States. Wilson identified the need for American economic strength and strategic interests in the Western hemisphere. This while attempting to keep safe America’s economic interests and promoting democratic reforms in Latin America.
With FDR it wasn’t his policies it was this that he admired, “On March 4, 1933, he stood in braces as a man who had polio at a time when nobody who had that kind of disability could be anything in public life. He was president of the United States, and he stood in front of this Capitol on a rainy March day and he said, ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself.’” It was FDR’s leadership style, not his policies and the same could be said of Teddy.
I can’t stand Obama’s socialism but I give him credit for sticking to his guns on what he believes. It is in my mind better than Bubba Clinton, who’s policies were of political expediency, his own self interest. You don’t have to agree with ones policies and not acknowledge some aspects of someone’s life.
I don’t see a problem with Gingrich’s position on this. With the complexities of humanity, we can always learn something from others, including what not to do. And as Cluster said, Gingrich has matured, you learn from the past, that’s called wisdom.
I always hold up Teddy Roosevelt as a shining example to my kids
A shining example of what, Doug? I mean, what’s not to like about the guy who said in his 1910 speech on the new nationalism that there was a
J.R.,
I’m with you. Teddy Roosevelt and Wilson are two of my least favorite presidents, and, as a student of history, I see both of them in an entirely different light than many historians have.
Jim Powell had a great piece last month at Forbes, drawing some interesting parallels between T.R. and Obama.
JR, my kids have grown up in the post 9/11 era, they need to learn to speak softly and carry a big stick, they need to learn the neocon international view that TR started, we all do, if we want this country to survive. I know Ron Paulians want to be isolationists, but TR’s international views are needed.
Roosevelt’s bark was huge on domestic issues, as he would always play the populist vs. corporations, but his actions never followed…namely because by the time he really wanted to appeal to the populists, he no longer had the power. He recognized a couple important things that you might consider a liberal viewpoint, that are very important:
1) He recognized that America’s natural resources should be farmed out, rather than depleted. That is conservation of resources. Tree farms and the like, basically instead of just letting companies consume all the natural resources, make sure that they are used in a way that they can continuously be replenished so they will always be there for businesses to use. Yes, today the environmental movement can be out of whack, but back then, his plan was more like what modern conservatives would consider the right approach to government owned natural resources.
2) He obviously went wild trying to beat down corruption in government and corruption between government and corporations. This, too, you obviously find offensive, but his was a time where the monopolies were monopolies because they had help in the form of politicians using the laws to protect the companies from competition. Today we call that crony capitalism, and TR was very much against that and worked to break that tie between the two (which we would later see that tie become detrimental in central european countries).
Your quotes come from after his power, after he was President, he didn’t act on those while President, what he did while president was basically stuff that the GOP would agree with today:
a. extremely tough on immigration
b. neocon type international policy
c. anti – crony capitalism
d. conservationalist in a way that uses natural resources for business
e. anti-government corruption
There is no wonder he is regarded as one of the best Presidents in our history….yeah, you can bring up stuff he said after 1909, but while President it was something different.
Your quotes come from after his power, after he was President, he didn’t act on those while President, what he did while president was basically stuff that the GOP would agree with today:
You mean 3 years before he decided to run for President again on the Bull Moose (Progressive) ticket, splitting the GOP vote and paving the way for that SOB Wilson to be elected? That kinda fu*ked up TR’s legacy, IMO. The vast majority of the problems we face today as a nation are the direct or indirect result of the Progressive movement.
promoting an international organization dedicated to keeping peace
And just how’s that workin’ out, Russ?
Cluster, In regards to your post on the other thread. Please don’t worry about it. It is all good as they say. I have a thick head and my wife will confirm that if need be.
I apologize to you if I offended you.
I am pretty hard to offend as well – so all is good. Keep up the good fight
GMB, are you sure you don’t mean “thick skin”? heh.
More than likely Spook, Context is the matter most of the time. Allthough I am sure my wife would still claim that I am a Schwerkopf! LOL 🙂
GMB
t I am a Schwerkopf
you are a four star general?
How did you get four start general out of Schwerkopf? Lol.
It translates as “hardhead”
Lol, again. 🙂
That would be a Schwartzkopf, literally translated as “black head” but common usauge is slang for “black marketeer”.
Sorry for the error in the last reply, it was intended for J.R. Should do a better job in proof reading.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/01/my-endorsement-for-president/
Sorry Mitt it’s over now. Newt’s Secretary of Defense of\r Homeland Security?
Fabuloso el debateo!!
Newt laid the hammer down on ABC and CNN!!
Way to go Newt!! Keep up the good working exposing the liberal networks, and liberals in general!!
Spook?
maybe a plan for us eh?
“You’re a sick senior citizen and the government says there is no nursing home available for you. So what do you do?
Our plan gives anyone 65 years or older a gun and 4 bullets. You are allowed to shoot four Politicians.
Of course, this means you will be sent to prison where you will get three meals a day, a roof over your head, central heating, air conditioning and all the health care you need!
As an added bonus, your kids can come and visit you as often as they do now.
And who will be paying for all of this? It’s the same government that just told you that you they cannot afford for you to go into a home.
Plus, because you are a prisoner, you don’t have to pay any income taxes anymore.
Is this a great country or what?“
yabba dabba dabba
Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee: Gingrich Is Using Racial ‘Code Words’
Pssssttttttt sheila, I got my GOP double super secret decoder ring today.
and guess what It says? you are really a white KKK …double agent.
<i?Michael Moore: U.S. Was ‘Founded on Genocide and Built on the Backs of Slaves’
Media
"Their boots have been on the necks of people of color since we began."
the lefts lunacy is just beginning to ramp up…….hey mike read this..
http://www.theamericancause.org/032108.htm
Neo, hysterical. LOL! Also not too much of a stretch.