Did Obama just hand the Republican Party an issue to galvanize conservatives in 2012 to boot him out of office?
The top Republican in the Congress on Wednesday denounced President Barack Obama’s new rule on contraceptives as an assault on “religious freedom” and vowed to overturn it, as the White House sought to prevent the issue from becoming an election-year liability.
Fanning a political firestorm, House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner joined an outcry from religious leaders and social conservatives over a requirement that health insurance plans, including those at Catholic hospitals, charities and universities, offer birth control to women.
Seeking to ease a controversy that has roiled the 2012 presidential race, White House spokesman Jay Carney appeared to leave the door open to compromise. He said Obama was sensitive to religious beliefs on contraception and hoped to find a way to implement the rule that can “allay some of the concerns.”
But Obama, at a meeting with Senate Democrats, reaffirmed his decision and was “not equivocating,” Senator Frank Lautenberg, who attended the closed-door session, told Reuters.
Between things like this and the economy, things continue to look bad for Obama this year.
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This issue will be resolved before Easter; the election isn’t until November. The Right is jumping at every possible thing that “can get us a victory in November!” This is how you lose by a thousand little deaths. It would be better to ask: How do you “galvanize” a circular firing squad?
diane visqueen, BS MF BFD FUBO ESAD HO HUM Arf Arf CON
dream on Ochimpy is toast.
Your track record isn’t the best when it comes to predicting the Presidential winner, neocompoop; you were wrong in 2008 and you will be wrong for 2012, as well. When you consider that there is not one worthy opponent in the sorry bunch of Republican candidates, it becomes clear that President Obama will wipe the floor with whomever is unfortunate enough to win the nomination and judging from the moaning and groaning coming from the majority of Republican voters it’s obvious that they realize they are looking at another four years under a get-it-done Democratic President.
“ANOTHER” four years under a get-it-done Democrat president????
You’re not only in a different country, you’re on a different planet.
Even Barry admits he is hardly a ‘get-it-done’ president. I think it’s Bush’s fault.
Issue resolved before Lincoln’s Birthday. Time for you to find another “anchor issue” Neocon. Where oh where is the Conservative candidate for 2012 that can win???
Making a decision like that in the first place is the circular firing squad. . and shouldn’t it be the incumbent that is in the forties that is ‘jumping’?
Seems to me that if a woman who worked for a catholic teaching hospital could choose to have contraception or not. this whole thing to me rings untrue. A good catholic won’t go against the teachings of the church no matter what is offered by the wider secular world. Why should those who have different views not be allowed to do as they please within the law?
Contraception is already available to anyone through the numerous county public health clinics across this country, and free to those who can not afford it. BUT AGAIN, this is NOT about contraception. Why am I not surprised though that liberals just don’t get it?
majorpainintheazz
They can “choose” contraception, it just will have to be self paid.
BFD
This is just one of many liberal assaults on the constitution. Let’s never forget this line:
Pres. Obama: “Our Founders designed a system that makes it more difficult to bring about change than I would like sometimes.”
This line revealed the true character of who Obama is. He has a healthy disdain for what America is, and how it was founded. This may be just one of many surprises we discover hidden in Obamacare, and this grace period is highly offensive, of course so is the President. .
Besides, Diane, as far as it being resolved by Easter, Obama just doubled down on stupid.
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/02/08/report-obama-doubles-down-on-new-contraception-rule-at-democratic-retreat/
…”John Boehner joined an outcry from religious leaders and social conservatives over a requirement that health insurance plans, including those at Catholic hospitals, charities and universities, offer birth control to women.”
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Correct me if I’m wrong but from what I understand it will only be offered, not forced. If your religious beliefs forbid you from using birth control, surely, you would have the strength of your convictions not to avail yourself of the service.
It would be interesting, though, to know what percentage of Catholic couples are currently using conraceptives obtained from other sources.
Canadian,
This issue is not at all about contraception. Try and elevate your thinking, if at all possible.
cluster
Try and elevate your thinking, if at all possible.
ya cant fix stupid.
So you say that a woman who is not a catholic who works at a catholic hospital should not have her contraception costs covered in her health care plan?
She doesn’t have to work for that organization, and AGAIN, not about contraception freddie
schwartzputs BHO, FAG, MF, DS, MF, BFD, AMF, ESAD.
should Jewish organizations be forced to pay for muslim flying carpets and prayer rooms for their employees?
. . . so you see no problem with the CHURCH itself being forced to provide it? Why? People don’t HAVE to work for the catholic church.
cO
see arguing with idiots, the Kanadian edition pgs 13-69
Correct you if you’re wrong?
Easy.
You’re wrong.
Courtesy of Slate:
“After two solid weeks of Republicans rapidly escalating attacks on contraception access under the banner of “religous freedom,” Obama finally announced what the White House is proposing an accomodation of religiously affiliated employers who don’t want to offer birth control coverage as part of their insurance plans. In those situations, the insurance companies will have to reach out directly to employees and offer contraception coverage for free, without going through the employer. Insurance companies are down with the plan, because as Matt Yglesias explained at Moneybox, contraception actually saves insurance companies money, since it’s cheaper than abortion and far cheaper than childbirth. Because the insurance companies have to reach out to employees directly, there’s very little danger of women not getting coverage because they are unaware they’re eligible.
That’s the nitty-gritty. The fun part of this is that Obama just pulled a fast one on Republicans. He drew this out for two weeks, letting Republicans work themselves into a frenzy of anti-contraception rhetoric, all thinly disguised as concern for religious liberty, and then created a compromise that addressed their purported concerns but without actually reducing women’s access to contraception, which is what this has always been about. (As Dana Goldstein reported in 2010, before the religious liberty gambit was brought up, the Catholic bishops were just demanding that women be denied access and told to abstain from sex instead.) With the fig leaf of religious liberty removed, Republicans are in a bad situation. They can either drop this and slink away knowing they’ve been punked, or they can double down. But in order to do so, they’ll have to be more blatantly anti-contraception, a politically toxic move in a country where 99% of women have used contraception.”
Liberals in California continue to tighten the government noose around the necks of their citizens:
The Board of Supervisors this week agreed to raise fines to up to $1,000 for anyone who throws a football or a Frisbee on any beach in Los Angeles County. In passing the 37-page ordinance on Tuesday, officials sought to outline responsibilities for law enforcement and other public agencies while also providing clarification on beach-goer activities that could potentially disrupt or even injure the public.
Have we all had enough of this liberal daycare yet?
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/08/la-county-oks-1000-fine-for-throwing-football-frisbee-on-beaches/
a marxist muslim ideologue was elected by dumbed down useful idiots and innercity plantation dwellers living off OPM.
Then we are surprised by the destruction of our monetary system, military, attacks our Christian heritage and our churches, bashes our country at home and abroad?
The trojan horse is within our gates and we might fall as a result of it.
can you say Anti Christ-manchurian POS?
Okay enough of you. If a woman wants to use birth control she is going to see her doctor and get that birth control. The Catholic Church isn’t being forced to do anything they are being required to offer this potential drug choice to its employees in public institutions. The fear here is that women will make reporductive choices that further decrease the number of Catholics in the future and I get that. But if the Church is going to have hospitals they have to hire people who are not Catholic at some point. Priests drive cars made in Detroit where I am certain there’s a woman who took the Pill this morning. Why ain’t they boycotting Ford???
freddie,
It’s not about contraception – can you please look at the big picture here?
“drug choice to its employees in public institutions”
This isn’t a prescription for antibiotics to help recover from an infection. Using the term “drug” is just a way to confuse the issue.
RU 486 is also just a drug, do you think a church should have to pay for it as public institutions?
Again if Obama wanted to avoid all these issues he could have pushed for a stronger public health care system which wasn’t just a fancy way to benefit big Pharma. He didn’t.
Freddie, what you think you “get” is simply wrong. You spout anti-Catholic bigotry when you invent a secular reason for objecting to contaception but it has nothing to do with reality.
Your whole post is utter nonsense. Catholic hospitals and schools already hire non Catholics, and they can certainly use birth control In their private lives.
You PL Trolls are fixated on the contraceptive thing because this is about all you can understand…….it resolates with the mindless. This is why you are so hung up on Santorum’s personal belief regarding birth control. It seems to be part of the crotch-centric world view of the Left and the Pseudo Left.
Peeling back the layers as Amazona suggests.
1. When did health insurance become synonymous with everything dealing with what a person wants to do with their body? If a person wants contraceptives (not a health issue) they can BUY them just like they do everywhere else in the world. Even public health care countries don’t cover contraceptives or Viagra or reassignment surgeries.
2. As Clueless said for the poor there is already free access to condoms. If you are better off pay for yourself or try self control.
3. If Obama wants all these things maybe he could have shown some courage and push an individual mandate next time.
Of course with all that said it is just sad and pathetic that the GOP needs the pill to galvanize support among social conservatives in the face of the on going genocide of abortion.
Overall good post – but this is a first amendment issue, not a contraception, or social conservative issue. Apparently, liberals believe that separation of church and state is a one way highway. Religion should have no part of government, but government does have the right to intrude on religion.
Hypocrisy is just one label to apply here.
Again if Obama wanted to avoid all these issues he could have pushed for a stronger public health care system which wasn’t just a fancy way to benefit big Pharma. He didn’t.
Yes, because that is exactly what is needed in healthcare – more bureaucracy.
Great idea/sarc
I am health conscious but a risky driver. I need my car to get to work to earn a living. How come the government subsidizes my health insurance but not my auto insurance?
Because there is more control over personal behavior via health insurance, but don’t think that those who have a disregard for our constitution; aka Obama, haven’t thought about it.
Drones over U.S. get OK by Congress (To be signed by Obama)
Are certain opinions signs of a “mental disease” that has physical manifestations too or only a disease whose symptoms are the opinions themselves?
Can a liberal say you are crazy for believing that taxes are too high with the same level of consistency as you offer? Is “crazy” an emotional lib word used to cut off discussion?
I really don’t get the point of your questions. I will only say that Ron Paul is not an impressive individual, has been in government way too long, has a foreign policy that the mullahs would applaud, and is the last person on this planet that I would vote for, for POTUS.
Clueless
When Paul is labeled as crazy or his policies are something the mullahs would agree with as you stated you are ultimately saying nothing about policy and more about your inability to describe a coherent policy.
A skeptic would attribute your irrationality to a love of war and empire. You value an imaginary realm of freedom more than the reality of US soldiers killed without purpose.
Not to agree with Bardolf, but Cluster ~ Sen. Ron Paul is the closest to a Constitutionalists’ there is. I agree he is off-base with current conditions as far as the mid-East goes but Sen. Paul is closer to the founders than our current strategy. Not my 1st, 2nd or 3rd choice but I would pull the lever and hope on Congress.
Catholic hospitals could just refuse to hire anyone who uses birth control.
What don’t you liberals understand about government over reach and the first amendment? Is this really such a difficult concept?
cluster
for the libs only larry flynt, titty dancers, perverts, murderers, abortionists and filthy mouthed “comedians” are covered by the 1 st amend.Oh yes and islam.
Why would Catholic hospitals and schools refuse to hire anyone who uses birth control?
Why are you PL trolls so hung up on the contraception thing? Is this the sum total of what you are capable of understanding about religious belief? Is your ability to understand religious conviction as limited as your capacity to understand actual political ideology?
And why can’t you understand the simple fact that the issue is one of impinging on personal religious liberty and is therefore a violation of the Constitution?
Is it really so hard? Is it just because you are so ignorant of the Constitution? Is it because to you the 1st Amendment is really only about street thugs taking over public areas in the name of ‘protest’ or the ability to insult religious belief by putting religious icons in beakers of urine?
Speaker John Boehner joined the outcry? Whose backbone did he borrow?
This is an easy issue. No backbone required.
Type II diabetes might be a complication of MODERN life, pregnancy is not and not a disease. Biologists do not consider animals fit if they can overeat, they do consider reproduction as a measure of fitness.
OTOH I am not sure any health plan should have to cover liposuction
bloodyPstump
the CATHOLIC CHURCH as a PRIVATE RELIGIOUS orginization has the RIGHT to deny ANYTHING they see fit.
YOU have the RIGHT NOT to be employed by them……capice Moron?
if you work for me you have NO insurance other than what YOU buy!
bloogyPstump
all those children the church helped rape
the Church neither raped nor helped any one rape anybody.
HOMOSEXUAL predators employed by the church as priests rapedthey have been punished and will answer to God for their sin and perversion.
I WANT one…..for EACH vehicle.
So according to conservative “logic” ……. – bloody
That “logic” is centered around the mandates of the constitution – do you remember that quaint little document? Or did you miss that day in school?
commies, don needs nooo steenking con sti tution mon.
don need no stinkin badges
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That pesky constitution really cramps your style, doesn’t it?
That’s EXACTLY what happened to my cousin Vincenzo when he went to work at that Car Wash owned by the Christian Scientist; when he got sick they handed him a library card.
bloodyPstump
separation of church and state, and first amendment.
try something like that against islam and see what happens, force their mosques to buy my Easter ham, in fact EVERY Christians.
bloodyPpump
the wife had them for years took midol and ibuprofen, also had three sons naturally NO meds, No saddle block.
got nothing do you? wus.
ANd why should they be REQUIRED to cover them? People don’t have to work for a catholic organization> They are perfectly free to work elsewhere. Your position presupposes that it should be a required responsibility of a company to provide all the healthcare that an employee could possibly ever want,
Bull Connor.
Fred Phelps.
Robert Byrd
‘Fritz” Hollings. .
Al Gore Senior. . .
Claiming conservatives are associated with racists does’t make it true. However, the LONG and shameful racist history of the DEMOCRATIC party. . .there is another story indeed.
like the donks and the KKK….the ones YOU started and OWNED for almost a century?
we wont get into the marxist idiology and 300,000,000 MURDERED by communism or the 55,000,000 Murdered by abortion will we?
No we will lump conservatives with 125 neo nazis LOL
Ill up you those 125 neo nazis for your black panthers, uhurus, black nationalists, nation of islam, and three hundred other racist violent leftist organizations……
NEXT??
Gee bloodyPpump arent you soooo proud of YOUR party??
The original targets of the Ku Klux Klan were Republicans, both black and white, according to a new television program and book, which describe how the Democrats started the KKK and for decades harassed the GOP with lynchings and threats.
An estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of KKK ropes from 1882 to 1964.
The documentation has been assembled by David Barton of Wallbuilders and published in his book “Setting the Record Straight: American History in Black & White,” which reveals that not only did the Democrats work hand-in-glove with the Ku Klux Klan for generations, they started the KKK and endorsed its mayhem.
“Of all forms of violent intimidation, lynchings were by far the most effective,” Barton said in his book.
“Republicans often led the efforts to pass federal anti-lynching laws and their platforms consistently called for a ban on lynching. Democrats successfully blocked those bills and their platforms never did condemn lynchings.”
Further, the first grand wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic National Convention, no Democrats voted for the 14th Amendment to grant citizenship to former slaves and, to this day, the party website ignores those decades of racism, he said.
“Although it is relatively unreported today, historical documents are unequivocal that the Klan was established by Democrats and that the Klan played a prominent role in the Democratic Party,” Barton writes in his book. “In fact, a 13-volume set of congressional investigations from 1872 conclusively and irrefutably documents that fact.
We
christiansHOMOSEXUAL liberals only rape children, we don’t rape them and then punch them as well! Good argument for your side.NAMBLA = another good democRAT value.
Obamacare’s unconstitutional coercion
Andrew Napolitano: Mandate on Catholics is akin to compelling Jews or muslims to eat pork
Then along came the progressive attitude that some ethnic groups are superior to others. This is a damnable and racist view foisted
upon the federal government by Theodore Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson, in direct response to the influx of southern European immigrants at the beginning of the last century, most of whom were Catholic. Roosevelt and Wilson and their progressive followers thought these immigrants had too many children, children who would grow up to be voters and vote out their nanny-state central-planning values. So they began to encourage birth control and sterilizations and even abortions.
The Catholic Church resisted this by its teachings on birth control. The Church had made its teaching on contraception a core part of its mission for 400 years, and Pope Paul VI reaffirmed these teachings in a permanent way in 1968. That the Church embraces these teachings is well-known, and equally as well-known is the policy of the federal government to resist them.
But that resistance reached unconstitutional proportions a few weeks ago when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, herself a Catholic, issued regulations that require all employers in America to provide health insurance that makes contraceptive materials and devices available to their employees. The “all employers” includes Catholic universities, Catholic hospitals, Catholic schools and even local Catholic churches. The failure to comply with this law will result in a fine to these institutions and the provision of contraceptive coverage to their employees by the government itself.
This is quite literally Congress making a law that interferes with the free exercise of religion. This is not about the morality of contraception. This is about the constitutionality of government coercion, coercion of religious institutions, coercion directly and profoundly prohibited by the Constitution itself. The motivation for the coercion – that Catholics have too many babies – is reprehensible, and those in government who embrace that and are willing to use the power of government to resist that should be voted out of office. But the coercion is the same as that faced by the folks who seceded from England because of the king’s tax to pay for his church.
We have a king today, and he wants a tax to pay for his church. The king is the president, and his church is called Obamacare. We can’t let this happen here. This is not just a Catholic issue. This is an issue about whether the Constitution means what it says. Does the Constitution let the government compel Jews to eat pork, or Protestants to genuflect, or Muslims to own dogs, or Catholics to pay for contraception? The answer is obvious.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/obamacares-unconstitutional-coercion/
Boy if this aint the truth………
OMG
Mitt Romney: “Islam is not an inherently violent faith”
Heeeeeere we go AGAIN, TROP
You’re confusing the Faith with the man and in the process exposed your Christian bigotry. Congratulations
DO you know that there is a greater proportion of sexual abuse of minors at public schools than there ever was at Catholic churches?
Right, 15 year old boys having “relations” with HOT Teachers!
When I was in school the teachers all looked lie Ernest Borgnine …
and the men were even uglier!
I am always surprised when a Lefty brings up sexual abuses in the Church, as this only became a serious problem when the Church, under pressure from the Left, made the priesthood a haven for predatory homosexuals.
So according to the Left, homosexuality is fine, normal, even NAMBLA is great…..except for when the older male is a Catholic priest.
Then all of a sudden sex with adolescent boys is the most horrible thing in the world.
Bloody,
Try and stay focused. This is about birth control, nothing else. It’s not about blood transfusions and it’s not about your opposition to the death penalty, despite your concerted efforts to make it about those issues. Sex before marriage and certainly protection of the sanctity of life are central tenets of the Christian faith, and those tenets can not be compromised by the federal government – period. It also needs to be mentioned that those services and products are widely available through tax funded planned parenthood and county health clinics.
Marco Rubio knocked it out of the park at CPAC. Neocon, he’s your senator, beg him to run. He is the best young conservative of them all and hopefully one day will be the president.
Not satisfied with Mitt? Maybe he’ll select Marco for VP.
That’s my ticket. Romney & Rubo
R&R 2012
Marco is 10 times the pol that Romney is and seems the best possible choice for Romney.
It’s sad that in this day and age there still exists religious bigotry, and a disturbing ignorance of the constitution as displayed by bloodypenguinstump (of course I think there was more thought put into his name, then into any particular issue).
Through their income taxes, Catholics are already contributing to women’s health care and birth control needs via the tax payer funded county health clinics and planned parenthood. Maybe you just overlooked that rather LARGE fact. But you, nor the government, has the constitutional right to intrude upon their beliefs within their own organizations.
What is done with taxes once collected and leaving their hands is considerably different than forcing them to directly pay for something out of pocket. And you have to know that, whatever sophistry you are engaging in.
Why does birth control have to be funded by the Gov?
dvin
just more of the moral break down of our society.
Christianity is the ONLY guardian left between pure communist and islamic totalitarianism and freedom.
Every one of these social issues ( drugs, homosexuality, no restraints, murder and mayhem) are designed to chip away at that guardian.
The Trojan horse is within the gates and the FOOLS are partying at it’s feet.
Cluster February 9, 2012 at 8:40 am: “Canadian, This issue is not at all about contraception. Try and elevate your thinking, if at all possible.”
Cluster February 9, 2012 at 10:42 am: “BUT AGAIN, this is NOT about contraception. Why am I not surprised though that liberals just don’t get it?”
Cluster February 9, 2012 at 9:18 pm: “Bloody, Try and stay focused. This is about birth control, nothing else.”
LOL…
Hilarious!
cO
your stupidity certainly is hilarious
Birth control as a tenet of Christianity – it’s the context thing that liberals use, and don’t use, at their convenience.
lets force muslims to buy pork for all their employees.and see how dat works 😦
this is simple, BC is NOT covered by health insurance, It is a separate purchase by the person who wants to use it like Viagra.
Thus the C c is not EXCLUDING portions of a health insurance policy as bloodyPstump so stupidly blares out.
The govt wants to FORCE the Cc to PAY OUTSIDE of health insurance for something they stand four square agains…..BIG DIFFERENCE !!!
typical alinsky – marxist smoke screen and LIES!
budget 101
Lesson # 1:
* U.S. Tax revenue: $2 , 170 , 000 , 000 , 000
* Fed budget: $3 , 820 , 000 , 000 , 000
* New debt: $ 1 , 650 , 000 , 000 , 000
* National debt: $15 , 271 , 000 , 000 , 000
* Recent budget cuts: $ 38 , 500 , 000 , 000
Let’s now remove 8 zeros and pretend it’s a household budget:
* Annual family income: $21 , 700
* Money the family spent: $38 , 200
* New debt on the credit card: $16 , 500
* Outstanding balance on the credit card: $152 , 710
* Total budget cuts: $385
Got It ?????
dennistooge
the wolf in sheeps clothing once again proves himself to be just that.
I guess lying and ridicule are part of your Christan “values” eh dennystooge?
you know your self birth control is NOT covered by health insurance and must be purchased separately by those who chose to use it and is available for the “poor” free of charge.
again you PROFESS to be something, YET stand 100% against it.
you either belong to some deceived worldly organization or you are an out and out liar.
I think BOTH,
does killer tiller take collections in your “church” ?
Are you ready for some
footballMAYHEM ????see nov 2012.
WH CAVES: OBAMA TO ANNOUNCE ‘ACCOMODATION’ ON CONTRACEPTION RULE…
LAPD SETS UP DOMESTIC ‘WAR ROOM’
‘Homeland Security’ monitoring Internet for anti-govt sentiment, social unrest…
Except the accommodation, if I read it, is no such thing.
ryan
yeah move the goal posts forward 25 feet, then agree to “accommodate” and move them BACK 15 feet…….Riiiiiight!!
The “accomodation” amounts t the same thing; it is a mortal sin for us to facilitate abortion, either through providing the contraception, paying for providing contraception, or sending someone down the road to Planned Parenthood for contraception.