Yet another indicator that shows things don’t look good for Obama…
It’s February, nine months before a presidential election, and only 22 percent of Americans say they are satisfied with the way things are going. Voters haven’t been this unhappy with the country since George H.W. Bush’s presidency, when only 21 percent of Americans reported being happy with the country’s direction. And before that, the lowest approval rating was 19 percent during Jimmy Carter’s first term.What do the two presidencies have in common? Neither of them won re-election. And, if the trends holds true, Obama looks to be in an equally precarious situation.
The American Enterprise Institute for Public Policy Research released its 2012 campaign outlook, and it’s clear Obama’s sitting in the same position George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter were in during the February before their election losses—voters don’t feel good about the country.
Bill Clinton, Ronald Reagan, and George W. Bush—presidents who won re-election—all had at least 41 percent of voters optimistic with the state of the union.
Just goes to show you that when you put an incompetent teleprompter reader in the White House eventually people realize that the ability to give a speech doesn’t equal leadership.
Blogs For Victory 
Gas prices are through the roof. Unemployment is high and misleading with huge numbers of people not counted by the BLS. The deficit stands at an all time high. Daily curtailing of basic freedoms.
This is going to be a cakewalk for the GOP. No way could they blow such an easy win.
Bardolf, I have to disagree a some with you. I do agree with your premise that todays national GOP is a joke, I do not think they can blow this election.
It is bad for the donkeyrats. Very bad. They have the James/Watsons/Sunnys all locked up but nothing else. Even a squish like Mr. Romney will win.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/home/
People willing to place money wagers are giving Obama a 60% chance of winning in November.
It just appeared that the Mormon Church baptized Anne Frank posthumously. I’ll bet that the Jewish vote goes 80% for Obama.
Mitt can’t close the deal in Michigan where his dad was a beloved governor. He won’t be winning there in November.
It appears to be a walk in the park, but the GOP elites continue to ram milquetoast candidates down our throats. The current slate is pathetic. I wish we had someone with the passion of RR in 1980!
Reagan wouldn’t get a look in with today’s GOP. He’d be met with scorn and derision as a RINO.
I disagree, he would be met with scorn and derision from the GOP establishment. In the 10-15 years prior to being President, Reagan was far more conservative, in every aspect, than each of our current crop of candidates.
Our problem isn’t that the GOP elites continue to ram milquetoast candidates, it is that they choose to ram one milquetoast candidate and in the process attempt to completely evicerate anyone who stands in his way, thus ruining the GOP chances in the general election after the primary voters finish off the elite’s candidate in the primary.
The GOP establishment is to blame for this negative campaign season, and they have done it all in an attempt to get their man the nomination. They should have just stayed out of the way.
“I disagree, he would be met with scorn and derision from the GOP”
He was met with scorn and derision from the GOP establishment.
“He is unelectable” Gerald Ford. Many times over. That was one of the nicest things the GOP establishment said about him. Too bad GHWB pissed RR legacy away with 6 lousy words.
I don’t agree with that.
We all know the argument that the JFK of 1960 would be a Republican today. If he’d lived, though, I believe he would have moved left with the Democrat party–like his brothers.
Reagan was a man of his times. If he’d been, say, thirty years younger I believe he would have changed with the times, and still today be the conservative’s conservative.
unpatriotdoggy1
BS
more stupid talking points for morons.
chuckiethehammer
JFK was a whoermonger, and a cheat.
He was and would be the quintessential donkRat. The pervs have just become more marxist but still the party of cheats, homosexuals, thieves and looters all lower than whale SHIITE.
We take it, neocon1, since you do not wish to be a “looter” that once you have gotten back what you have contributed to Social Security you will refuse any more deposits or checks? Taking from the government what you have not earned or invested is the definition of looting, correct?
majordumbopain
you seem to have a problem with comprehension.
come back when you are off the meds forker.
Neocon1, It is a simple question. Do you feel that you deserve to take more from Social Security than you have put in? If women who have children out of wedlock and food stamp recipients are moochers because they are taking something they have not earned in your opinion how can you justify what you get beyond your contributions from SS?
majordumbo
alinsky 101
but still the party of cheats, homosexuals, thieves and looters all lower than whale SHIITE.
47% PAY NO FEDERAL TAXES…when they ALL pay 28% come talk to me.
NEXT?
And still, neocon1, you have not answered this simple question. Hypocrisy like crow is very difficult to swallow, yes? If welfare mothers should not have gotten pregnant in the first place should not you have spent less or even had less children so the government would not have to pay you in your old age?
But more than 100 million pay into Social Security neocon1 so that you can be a comfortable moocher in your old age?
majoedumbo
When people are NOT FORCED into a government program at the POINT of a GUN and IMPRISONMENT, 15 % of their wages CONFISCATED for almost 60 years and a PROMISE by the GOVT a percentage of that money (an INSURANCE POLICY) will be returned for life, then come and see me with your silly questions and moronic Jr high ethical crap if a doctor a lawyer a priest and a forker were in a boat…ya de ya…………
And how exactly is this different from Food Stamps, or welfare benefits which attempt to maintain a social safety net? if you average $50,000 per year from 18 to 62 you will have paid in enough to SS to get benefits for 12years and 6months. Beyond that by your definition of looting and mooching . . .
After this how are you any different than a woman who has had 2 children out of wedlock since what you get from the government is so vastly larger than what she would recieve?
majordumbo
you will have paid in enough to SS to get benefits for 12years and 6months
DO the MATH you Fn MORON
retirement age 66
. Male life expectancy 75.2 in 2004, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recently announced.
So I guess you plan to die at 78 and a half or start sending your checks back? And this is assuming you made an average of 50K a year. if it’s less . . .
And how exactly is this different from Food Stamps, or welfare benefits which attempt to maintain a social safety net? if you average $50,000 per year from 18 to 62 you will have paid in enough to SS to get benefits for 12years and 6months. Beyond that by your definition of looting and mooching . . .
And here I thought you were a reasonably intelligent guy, Major — guess not. The person on food stamps or welfare paid in enough to draw benefits for 12 years and 6 months? I’d like to see your source for that. Beyond that, your argument doesn’t include the 6.2% withheld by the employer which is factored into the employment cost of an employee, or, in the case of self-employed people like me, the entire 12.4% paid by me. Second, I defy you to find an individual — ANY INDIVIDUAL, who has earned $50,000 from age 18 to age 62, so your premise is completely false from the start. Third, I don’t think there are too many people out there who put money aside for retirement who hope they will just get back what they put in. You don’t seem to have a grasp of compounding and the present value/future value of money, Ask your forker buddy, Cavelor Umptifratz; perhaps he can explain it to you. Even assuming your figures are true, which I don’t believe they are, the current life expectancy numbers would eliminate the majority of people from the pool before they’ve received what they paid in.
It’s very simple majaydomo , the doctrine of res ipsa loquitor and the rebuttable presumptions that arise In flagrante delicto has, in causality cadit quaestio which I, as custos morum will, de facto …
Wait, I’m supposed to be the economist sockpuppet not the lawyer sockpuppet.
Be right back,
That’s better.
It’s very simple majaydomo, Ad initio the investment bank or pari passu initially undertakes de minimus exempli gratia when compounded in meconium provided nemo dat quod non habet in uberrium fides. It’s not just me that feels this way; non est factum but inter alia id est what id ie, kno’ what I mean?
Social Security Math:
Life expectency after retirement age for mail: 9 years. Current discounted value of social security income for those 9 years: $128,000.
Previous Assumption was that a worker spent 44 years earning $50,000 a year, which would be putting in $6200 a year into Social Security. Assuming ONLY a 3% annual investment growth rate, the current value of that $6200 a year would be $552,000.
Tell me again why someone is complaining that that person is getting more out of social security than they are putting in?
doug
it a leftist RUSE used by dumbed down drones and useful idiots.
They don’t need new candidates, they need a new electoral base. Keep ranting about birth control and questioning someones faith. (As if faith had anything to do with good governance.) These wack jobs are turning off women and independents in droves. This is going to be an epic fail for the Republicans.
Unfortunately for you Mitch, clear thinking voters are not overly concerned with contraception and religious affiliation, rather they focus on the actual drivers of our debt and the economy, of which the president has been absent on.
I wish you the best of luck
Uh Cluster? You are correctomundo! Except the candidates aren’t talking about those things are they? They are talking about women’s health issues, abortion and the devil. And the Presidents popularity is rising, the economy is improving and he acts like a sane person. Not to mention that in every current poll he beats all of the Republicans. Your side is a sad pathetic joke on a death trip. The best thing that could happen to the Republican party would be for it to completely collapse and reform. This time by purging itself of the ideological extremists and religious zealots. They aren’t helping things.
They are talking about women’s health issues, abortion and the devil.
The media is talking about those things Mitch in a concerted effort to keep small minds like yours distracted – and it’s working. Still sitting on Harry Reid’s desk, of which he will not bring the floor to discuss is the GOP’s plan to Cut, Cap and Balance which is a sensible economic plan – yet the democrats want nothing to do with sensibility. Instead they would prefer to foam up their base with talk of contraception and the “devil”.
It would be refreshing if one of our resident liberals could objectively discuss policy rather than personality, but I have long ago given up on that hope.
seems all the marxist leftys HATE God…why is that Bmitch?
I love the way you keep telling us what a loser religion is in politics YET you loooove islam and the muslim POS…why is that?
In 1980, the GOP offered America a viable alternative to Carter. In 1992, the Democratic Party offer a viable alternative to GHW Bush. This time the GOP has no viable alternative [Santorum, really?] and the issues now are far different than the issues in 1980 or 1992. The base of the Right is a drag on electability for either Romney or Santorum.
MajorDumbo painintheazz
BULL CRAP
the idiot perot gave us the perv POS #1, he “was elected by the LEAST number of votes EVER !!!
no wonder you are MAJOR DUMBO
Actually, neocon1 Ronald Reagan got fewer votes in 1980 [43,903,230] than Clinton did in 1992 [44,908,806]. What you meant to say is that Clinton won by the lowest percentage of voters than any other President in 1992.
MORE loooove from the TROP,
these animals are Fn NUTS
Four killed, dozens wounded in Afghan Koran burning
Afghans protest reported Koran desecration at U.S. base
Tue, Feb 21 2012
Afghans protest over Koran desecrations
U.S. Commander apologizes for Koran desecrations (COWARD)
Afghan protesters hold rocks during a protest near a U.S. military base in Kabul February 22, 2012. Several people were wounded on Wednesday, witnesses said, when shots were fired as hundreds of angry Afghans gathered in a second day of violent clashes after copies of the Koran, Islam’s holy book, were burned at NATO’s main base in Afghanistan.at NATO’s main base in Afghanistan REUTERS-Ahmad Masood
The American Embassy said its staff were in “lockdown” and travel had been suspended as thousands of people expressed fury over the burning, a public relations disaster for U.S.-led NATO forces fighting Taliban militants ahead of the withdrawal of foreign combat troops by the end of 2014.
The U.S. government and the American commander of NATO-led forces in Afghanistan apologized after Afghan laborers found charred copies of the Koran while collecting rubbish at the sprawling Bagram Airbase about an hour’s drive north of Kabul.
majordumbo
that does not matter, the fact is ross peroturd gave us the POS #1
Mod
cant we be free of the forkers advertisements at the bottom of every page?
Neocon1, If you people on the Right were just a little more accurate and presented facts instead of email chains and politically ginned up nonsense some on the Left might take you a bit more seriously. Clearly, Perot’s candidacy harmed Bush in 1992 especially in Pennsylvania and Ohio but Bush still won most of the South and came close in California.
Speaking of California keep in mind that Reagan started out as a Democrat . . .
Speaking of California keep in mind that Reagan started out as a Democrat . . .
All of us usually start out as democrats, but once the brain fully develops and maturity kicks in, clear thinking adults always become conservative.
majordumbo
slic and GhwB were within 6-7 % peroturd 20% (19.9) to be exact. an amoeba would have understood what I was getting at, yet you love using the deceptive leftist tactic of arguing side bars instead of the FACT RP gave us the perv POS #1
funny you chose the numbers instead of defending the dis honor of KKKlinton.
alinsky 101 gotta love the faux effort.
The reelection team for Obama which includes the media, led by the sycophants at MSNBC, are doing everything they can to demonize all conservatives and prop Obama up by deflecting from the issues that actually matter, and that will have an impact. This morning, MSNBC is carrying on about Obama “saving” the auto industry – which of course he didn’t. First of all, GM is NOT the entire auto industry, it’s just one company. Secondly, GM still owes tax payers hundreds of millions of dollars with no repayment plan in sight, the Chevy Volt sales are well below projections, inventories of other GM products are building up on dealer lots, and last but not least, private bond holders were wiped out in favor of unions when Obama took over, so if you ask those investors, they may have a different take.
What is also not being reported by the Obama media is that Obama has done NOTHING to put this country on a better financial foundation, in fact he has worsened it, meaning these slight economic gains in the last few months are completely unsustainable. Unemployment is back to 9% in February and I don’t expect other economic indicators to fare any better. Obama has also done nothing to address the unsustainable entitlement programs which are the real drivers of our debt, and in fact has been responsible for adding more people to government programs than any other president which obviously increases our debt, and of which we are currently borrowing 42 cents of every dollar. Not only has Obama not addressed the entitlement programs in his first term, he has no plans to do so any time soon, evidently thinking that there is no problem – which is a huge problem.
Add to this incompetence, Obama’s deft foreign policy skills has resulted in a ME that is currently ablaze with Iran doing anything they want, and Israel wondering what the hell happened. Radical Islam is gaining ground, because no one fears Obama and they are taking advantage of America’s weakness. Obama himself has clearly stated that America is just one of many nations in his opinion, and America’s exceptionalism is no different than any other countries – the sad thing is, if Obama wins another term we will be just another failing country.
“The reelection team for Obama which includes the media, led by the sycophants at MSNBC, are doing everything they can to demonize all conservatives and prop Obama up by deflecting from the issues that actually matter, and that will have an impact.”
Cluster, by their intransigence Conservatives are doing a wonderful job of demonizing themselves without any help at all from MSNBC. If your ideologues were running campaigns in the 13th Century you would win every time but unfortunately for your 30% this is the 21st Century and Moderates do not care for your retrograde thinking.
perversion, homosexuality, theft, racism, lies, are progressive thinking?
while Honor, service, humility, HONESTY, chastity (among a few virtues) are not?
a sewer, your “mind” and your party all flow into the same slime pit.
What in the hell does that even mean? This goes back to my “fully developed brain” comment. Major, this comment may bring applause from some of your forkers, but this comment is completely void of any real thought or substance – retrograde thinking?? Protecting constitutional religious liberties is not retrograde thinking. Wanting to be aggressive in extracting domestic energy resources is not retrograde thinking. Wanting to reform entitlement programs assuring their sustainability is not retrograde thinking. Wanting tax code and regulatory reform is not retrograde thinking. Wanting to secure the border and bring about sensible immigration reform is not retrograde thinking.
As long as you remain superficial and hyper sensitive, you will not gain any traction with rational, thoughtful voters.
Neocon1 We, Ourselves, know more homosexuals who have those best virtues than you have as citizens in your country but you mind cannot accept that all people created have something positive to offer society because of your blinding and draconian religious views that dictate to your mind that all people have to live by your flawed rules. Whatever happended to the Founding Fathers ideal of individual liberty?
The Afterlife will be very rough for you indeed.
majordumbo
yourGod’s blinding and draconian religious………YUP
SIN is SIN is SIN is SIN.
SIN leads to (spiritual) DEATH.
My afterlife will be just fine,
you are already DEAD (spiritually) and some how believe the same physically…ROTFLMAO killed in the civil war I believe??
do you SERIOUSLY think any one here sees you and your silly BS as anything but hysterical lunacy?
I mean, WTF X a Googolplex, you loons all belong in a masterbation proof rubber room.
Neocon1, like many on the Right who feel facts are stupid things, you have misquoted Us. You are blinded not by the Creator but by the interpretations of your religion by men who crave power and the adulation of others. The whole point was for Mankind to love one another not to demand obeisance to one political ideology or another.
a lie from HELL is still a lie.
A FORKER espousing virtues, and religious dogma is like a blind man with brain damage and a 2 year olds IQ, from birth about the majesty of the oceans, and explaining Einsteins theory of relativity.
Yes We do espouse many positive virtues. When you experienced grief in your family not to long ago, all of us and the Collective put aside political or ideological disagreements to offer you comfort. We, Ourselves call that honor and compassion which are virtues that all Human Beings should claim.
Majordomo,
As part of your requirement for facts you apparently live in a fact-free zone with statements like “Whatever happended [sic] to the Founding Fathers ideal of individual liberty?” with regard to homosexuality. I don’t have a dog in this fight but if you had any inkling of history you would realize that the laws of ancient Israel, AngloSaxon Common Law, and the US Constitution are all based on Nature’s Law from the Creator. These are all also based on reparation to the victim rather than fines and punishment being paid to the commonwealth.
This brought around innocence until proven guilty and the primary offense where no reparation was possible was first degree murder. This was punishable by death. The system of justice was based on severe punishment unless complete reparation to the person would was wronged. There were only four “crimes” or offenses, against the whole people; treason, cowardice, desertion, and homosexuality. These were also capital offenses.
So when you ask for facts from others—you might want to remove the boulder from your eye first.
Don’t forget the Magna Carta.
“By signing Magna Carta in 1215, the king conceded that there were many centers of authority besides his own, from that of his enemy the belligerent duke down to that of the free man in his home.
These other centers of authority were embedded in a history of their own that rightly commanded reverence. Therefore the right of inheritance is the most jealously guarded liberty in Magna Carta. You may not pillage a man’s castle simply because he happens to have died. We mistake the matter entirely if we consider such a right only in terms of wealth retained. The right of inheritance allowed a family the same kind of being extending through the centuries that the nation enjoyed. It honored the family as not merely a biological happenstance within the state but as a metaphysical and political reality that preceded the state.
Note that it was the fact of procreation perpetuated through familial generations that created the demand for inheritance rights. Recognizing those rights in law acknowledged the natural family’s unique role as the self-sustaining, self-governing unit that predated (and formed the foundation of) civil society. And as Magna Carta demonstrated, those rights fostered a system of limited civil government with its inherently broader scope of liberty—strong, multigenerational families thrive best where the government intervenes least.” Gary McCaleb
Neocon I think you’ve lost this one pal. For quite some time you’ve been droning on about moochers and looters while admitting your collect social security. You take more in than you get out, just admit it. it’s welfare for the old just be glad it’s there. You might want to light a candle for FDR since the whole system was enacted for the benefit of people who didn’t have the means to save for retirement. I know it must really suck to have your own mooching and looting thrown in your face like that. it’s time you went back to screaming like a madman about Mooslems or black crime or homosexuality so that you don’t let a ray of light into your brain.
I’ve got two words for you, “Means testing.”
schwartzputz
see immediately above
I’ve got two words for you, “Means testing.”
I have two for you,
BS
Bzzzzzttttttt
neocon1 February 22, 2012 at 9:39 am #
Neocon I think you’ve lost this one pal.
LOL — lost to what, a strawman? And a pretty pathetic strawman at that.
Neo,
It’s time you admitted that we are enlightened, more smarter and more based firmly in reality here in our Demon Playhouse in Aunt Vinny’s Basement. We (and by “we” I mean “me ‘cuz no one will play with me anymore since …. Well, I didn’t know she was only 13, hell she looked 15) are perfectly justified in lecturing you on the morals and standards of the country we know nothing about (being locked up all day except when Aunt Vinny calls us up for our speghettos and choklet milk).
Fredrike Schmultz, LMNOP, [Putz}
we know nothing about (being locked up all day except when Aunt Vinny calls us up for our speghettos and choklet milk).
Finally SOMETHING from a forker which makes sense. 🙂
Dogs. Fire hydrants. Comments from hells half acre. You draw the conclusion.
GMB
the first two are at least useful, the third? nah
Enough of this nonstop racist crap. Find something else to say or go away. // Moderator
bloodypDump
WOW the first of the day…..LOL
BAM!!
bloodypDump
Actually this is a myth that has been disproven in many studies, people tend to stay the same and times change.
BS as usual……show us those “many” studies…….
BPD
bloody may have been “more liberal” when America was more racist, but she stayed racist and now he is a full blown contemptible human being no one would like to claim to know, ageism and hatred of white men ( racism) seem to know no abound for her.
fixed
bloodypDump.
bpdump
The Careless Use Of The Race Card In The U.S.
one pernicious undercurrent appears particularly destructive: manufactured racism.
A lucrative racial extortion racket longs to expose lingering prejudice behind every errant look or parsed word. “Leaders” like Jeremiah Wright, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton exaggerate racism en route to amassing fortunes.
But peddling ideas that America is grossly bigoted or that black failures are primarily other’s fault spreads despair and undermines responsibility. The race mongers sow self-destructive rage only to reap a weakened people.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/the-careless-use-of-the-r_n_1119289.html
MODERATOR
can we do with out the forkers free Adds at the bottom of every thread?
Matt may be able to block or eliminate them. I don’t have that authority//Moderator
Those are links Neocon1 not ads. Our blog would get paid for ads. We don’t do ads even on our blog. These are links so progressives can come here and see how backward you are.
That’s right, after reading about demons, and devils and make-believe worlds where we are more smarter, we like to come to B4V and laugh at how out of touch you are.
S’cuse me, my spaceship is waiting just outside.
I’m going to the Zoo today!
“I’m going to the Zoo today!”
dinner with the pigs?
neo,
You realize you’re conversing with a lunatic right?
“Diane” is a balding 300 pound college dropout with Cheetos stains on his fingers who smells like cabbage, lives in a basement, reads comic-books (he calls them graphic novels”) and owns three Samurai Swords.
His biggest worry is that mom’s boyfriend is going to sell his Pacer before Comiccon and he’ll have to take a bus, where people stare (unkindly) at his Wolverine costume.
Ah. Billy Crystal in The Princess Bride. (And the lettuce is crispy.)
count
ROTFL….LOL LOL