It’s been a week, but I am sure the Democrats feel like it has been quite a bit longer, as Paul Ryan has completely changed the course of the campaign and possibly the election by coalescing the conservatives. Ryan is a solid conservative, and is not afraid to take on the once unspeakable entitlement reform issue which has Democrats in a panic because not only is he openly talking about reform, he is winning the conversation. In fact Obama has had to distort and lie about Romney and Ryan’s plan while at the same time trying to deflect the issue back to Romney’s taxes.
Let’s take a quick look at each individual issue and how the Democrats are trying to spin it. The fact is, the Medicare reform that Romney and Ryan are calling for DOES NOT impact anyone over 55 years of age. One more time for the liberals out there – the Romney/Ryan plan does not affect anyone over the age of 55 – got that? For those under 55, the reform plan offers a CHOICE. Liberals always pride themselves on being pro choice, so here’s a big moment for them. People under 55 will have the choice to remain on the current medicare program, or receive a voucher to use those funds in helping them buy other private insurance. That’s it – it’s pretty simple, and nothing like the big scary reform Obama and the Democrats are trying to paint it as, so keep that in mind the next time you see that smarmy David Axlerod on TV lying through his teeth.
Now on to Romney’s taxes. Mitt and Ann Romney have released the legally required tax returns and financial disclosures which have proven to be above board and in compliance with every tax obligation. There is no reason why they should be required to release any more, and further calls for them to do so, are tantamount to a witch hunt. If the Democrats and Obama were concerned that the Romney’s evaded taxes, or failed to submit in any given year, well then that can be found out quite easily by one phone call to Douglas Shulman, Commissioner of the IRS, who reports to Timothy Geitnner, who is ironically an admitted tax evader. If any irregularities are found in Romney’s tax returns, and no action is taken, well then we have much larger issues to concern ourselves with, but as it stands now, Romney does not have any “secret” tax returns as recently described by the aforementioned smarmy Axelrod. Do the liberals understand that? Have I dumbed this down enough for them? We will see.
Blogs For Victory 
Said elsewhere but appropriate.
“Romney: “The Job Creators®, blessed be thy name, are taxed to heavily.”
Media: “Really? Can you support that claim by showing us as many years of tax returns as your opponent has?”
Romney: “Here’s one year.”
Media: “Try 10. You know, the same number released by every single major presidential candidate for decades, which by the way includes your own father?”
Romney: “I won’t give you 10, 1 is enough.”
Media: “Why?”
Romney: “Because, even though I am running for the office of President of the United States of America, arguably the most powerful position on Earth, a job that is fraught with a multitude of challenges, stresses, conflicts, and difficulties, I’m too scared to release more tax returns because the media might ‘attack me’ over what’s in them.”
Media: “…are you serious?”
Romney: “Hey look! I just picked Paul Ryan as my running mate!”
Media: “Good…job…I guess? Anyway, about those tax returns…”
Romney: “Uh…13%!”
Media: “What?”
Romney: “I’ve paid at least 13% in taxes since, like, forever!”
Media: “That’s nice. How about you go ahead and show us?”
Romney: “Uh…hey, did I mention I picked Paul Ryan as my running mate?”
Well, here’s lie #1:
Media: “Try 10. You know, the same number released by every single major presidential candidate for decades, which by the way includes your own father?”
McCain released just the legally required two years, the same as Romney, and was never questioned.
Here’s lie #2:
Romney: “Here’s one year.”
Romney has released two years.
Bloody, if you are going to have an imaginary conversation in your head – at least don’t lie to yourself. K?
Actually, Romney has not released two years of tax returns. He has released part of his tax returns for 2010, and said he will release the 2011 tax returns when they are completed. My guess that will not happen until after the election.
“Romney has released two years.”
No he hasn’t. He released his 2010 return and has promised to release his 2011 return when it’s available.
He has released two returns, 2010 and the estimate of 2011 along with 2011 financial disclosures. His CPA firm has stated that has soon as the 2011’s are finished, they will be released.
Get a grip
So, did you read his 2010 tax returns?
If the Tax Returns are so freakin’ important to you loons why haven’t you “read” what he’s already produced? You have no idea what tax returns are, how to “read” them or what they prove or disprove, do you?
You haven’t bothered to look into this because your dimocrat overlords have already told you what to think about those tax returns?
Predictable. What is it Tired says … mindless drones.
“He has released two returns, 2010 and the estimate of 2011 along with 2011 financial disclosures.”
An estimate isn’t a return.
“His CPA firm has stated that has soon as the 2011′s are finished, they will be released.”
Which is what I said.
an estimate isn’t a return???
Really?
Can you explain the difference?
Tell me, O wise reader of all things financial, where exactly would you place that particular delta?
What information mightbe in the filed return that may differ from the CPA Certified Financial Estimate (which is the cumulative quarterly filings from FY 2011)?
I didn’t think so.
An estimate and financial disclosures are releases of 2011 finances, and are perfectly legal disclosures Cap. The thing that morons like you should be looking for is when the 2011 financials are complete, you should match that up with the estimates. Now that could be a story, but you probably haven’t thought that one through.
You’re welcome for the tip
Not to be confused with OGE Financial Disclosure Forms like #278 which are required of federal employees or State financial disclosure forms which are required of State employees, or Grant custodian financial disclosure forms which are required of those responsible to allocations of Federal Contract or Grant money, or …
Get your facts straight Romney has not released two full years, only one and a portion of his latest. McCain’s tax records and their disclosure while in the Senate are public record annually.
Trouble for your side is that no one cares about Romney’s taxes…we only care about the disaster known as Obama and how soon we can get rid of him.
Mark, many of us do care – just as you would if it were a Democratic candidate running for president and only releasing part of one years tax returns.
freethinker,
John McCain released two years – never questioned by liberals
Ronald Regan released just one year – never questioned by liberals
John Kerry never released his wife’s (Ta Raeza) returns – never questioned, and when confronted with avoiding taxes on his Yacht, Kerry responded indignantly, and never questioned by liberals
Romney has released two years, plus many financial disclosures
So tell us all again how concerned you are. It only reinforces your mendacity.
“Mark Noonan
August 17, 2012 at 1:32 pm #
Trouble for your side is that no one cares about Romney’s taxes”
Except for over half the country.
http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/19/news/la-pn-poll-most-americans-think-romney-should-release-more-tax-returns-20120719
*Yawn*
Gallup says people care, sure, right.
Next.
free,
No, I wouldn’t care – I don’t care; I don’t think any candidate for office should have to release any of his tax returns. Its not anyone’s business.
Casper:
Gallup Pollster: Do you think Romney should release more tax returns?
Generic Poll Respondent: Oh, what the heck: sure.
It is an unthinking response but there is no one out there going, “you know, I was thinking of voting for Romney but now that he hasn’t released 10 years of tax returns, I’m voting Obama”.
No one cares – except the trained monkeys on the left who simply pick up whatever the Obama/DNC talking point ‘o the day is and run with it…
“Mark Noonan
August 17, 2012 at 4:57 pm #
Casper:
Gallup Pollster: Do you think Romney should release more tax returns?
Generic Poll Respondent: Oh, what the heck: sure.
It is an unthinking response but there is no one out there going, “you know, I was thinking of voting for Romney but now that he hasn’t released 10 years of tax returns, I’m voting Obama”.”
I’d guess that there are a few people out there wondering what Romney is hiding and not all of them are liberals. That doesn’t mean they will vote for Obama, but it does give them one less reason to vote for Romney.
In this you are wrong Mark. I don;t think he’s ddone anything illegal, but if he has worked the loopholes to acutally get a refund that wouldn’t sit well with many moderate Middle Class voters.
No one cares about Romney’s tax returns – it is the merest Obama talking point and you liberals run with it because you can’t think for yourselves. It is just one in a long series of dodges from Obama to get people talking about anything other than Obama’s disastrous record.
Cluster, stumpy is too ignorant and too blinded by his passionate yet uninformed allegiance to the Left to be able to see the lies in this slop he so eagerly quotes, much less to care that it is slop.
It is his slop, it is prepared for his taste by his slop-mixers, and he slurps it down with glee and then regurgitates it with even more glee, stupidly thinking he has made a point and, even more important to the PL, gotten a “gotcha”.
This is what passes for political discourse on the Left, and this is what far too many will use to form their decisions about how to vote.
And the same PL trolls who are so concerned about the tax rates of the rich are and always have been oddly unconcerned about the legal eligibility of the one who they voted for to take on, as stumpy quotes, “… the most powerful position on Earth…”
BTW, Romney’s tax rate is the same as that of many retirees who are also living on the interest and dividends from their investments.
BS talking points, meanwhile back at the raunch…..
1. riots in the streets OWS
2. NBPP calls for murder, mayhem puts out hits on white hispanics
3. Iran on verge of nuclear weapon
4. coming WAR in me
5.russia building up massive new weapon programs becoming belligerent
6. 5 trillion additional debt
7. more on welfare than ever in history
8. 16% real unemployment
9. division of America never seen since civil war.
10. marxist, muslim drug head, usurper sodomite occupying wh
and these Fn LOONS worry about mitts tax return????
No wonder 47% of the dumbed down drone useful idiots leach off OPM.
.
Ama
also when you donate MILLIONS to charities that offsets income, but the leftist TROLLS and commie donks would know NOTHING about giving THEIR MONEY!! and since they pay NO taxes anyway…………..OPM BA-BY
Romney’s Taxes???? No one cares.
In just a few days they’ll forget this act of desperation and be back to trashing Bain.
That’s all they’ve got.
and the N word, by their surrogates of course….but we are the raaaaaacist’s LOL
MSNBC Host: Romney Engaging In ‘Niggerization’ Of President…
MAHER: Obama plays golf like he’s ‘white,’ fights like he’s ‘black’…
meanwhile on Ochimpy and the pantsuit hags watch…….
AHMADINEJAD: ISRAEL WILL SOON BE DESTROYED
and we have LOST the ENTIRE ME
but but but Romneys taaaaaaaxes
JER???
UPDATE: Social Security Administration Explains Plan to Buy 174,000 Bullets…
SS??????
WHY?????
SS??????
WHY?????
OBUMMER WANTS TO OFF THE SENIOR CITIZENS.
GET PREPARED. OBUMMER IS THE DEVIL AS A ROARING LION SPOKE OF IN SCRIPTURE.
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jer
WE are the NEW ENEMY……….
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Are the black helicopters coming to take your precious fluids neocon, you should get to your tinfoil bunker. Consevatism is a conspiracy theory. BTW if Obama had hidden his tax returns you all would be assuming he took billions of dollars in bribes from Chinese-Saudi-Iranian Marxist Muslim Nazis. You all know that, deny it and you are lying to yourselves, but you are conservatives so that what you do to get by.
Germany, France, Belgian,Russia 1939……yeah tinfoil hats all right.
too bad you are one of the dumbed down morons who know nothing of history who fell for a mulatto sham wow salesman selling hope n change for your soul and freedom.
Enjoy it while it lasts drone.
Damn, I must have missed the line on my 1040 where I list all of my “bribes” and other unaccounted for income. Need to ask my CPA.
What??? You mean you don’t declare you illegal income on your tax returns and then just decline to pay tax on it?
You need to have mitche help you out on that. Besides, weren’t you out of a job for a while? I think he said you don’t have to pay federal tax if you are unemployed. ““Funny how he didn’t mention the federal tax he paid.. OH WAIT! HE DIDN’T SINCE HE”S UNEMPLOYED!!!” “
BTW, I looked at the form the Count linked to and I didn’t find a line to list bribes and other illegal income.
You know, the feds got Capone on tax evasion, not because of what he declared but because of what he spent. Al did not declare his illegal income, surprise surprise. Just how dumb to you have to be to think you will find illegal income listed on a tax return?
(Hint: As dumb as mitche and casper and the freaky clown, to start…)
I am a conservative not a republican. Paul Ryan is no conservative. Voted for the auto bailout, voted for the wall street bailout, voted for federal take over of education, the Bush Kennedy Leave No Child Behind, voted in a new prescription drug plan for seniors when we are going bankrupt. This guy is no conservative. Requested stimulus money. Come on. Ron Paul is to only one who has stood up to the spending in Washington.
hose garbagecia
I am a conservative
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight Pee Wee !!
a PAULY BOT ……….HILARIOUS
see bloodypump for your tinfoil hat, bot!!
Oh crap, another Ronulan.
Yeah yeah Ryan doesn’t pass the litmus test, Romney doesn’t pass the litmus test, neither Bush, Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower, Coolidge, or Lincoln could pass the Ronulan litmus test, we get it.
Ron Paul would make a helluva President, think of the record for overriding vetoes Congress could set. Think of all he could accomplish with no one from either party cooperating with him.
And on the World’s Stage! What an impressive image he would cut, standing by the potted palms muttering to himself. shouldda gone to Kmart, shoulda gone to Kmart, gonna miss WAP-ner, WAP-ner’s on at four, gonna miss WAP-ner.
Yeah right, President Rainman is what we’ve all been waiting for.
But, neo, at least Ronulans would get one wish … Ron Paul would have no Jooooos in the his Cabinet.
count
Ron Paul would have no Jooooos in the his Cabinet.
BUT
Ubama could serve them coffee MOTSAH?……….or was that Klintoon?
We still got Ronulans? Grab a clue – your man Ron is kowtowing to the GOP establishment in order to secure a political future for his son. Nothing wrong with that, but it does knock in to a cocked hat any notion that Ron Paul is a revolutionary.
I would still like to see Ron Paul as part of the cabinet–to address the Federal Reserve in particular. 🙂
It is interesting you have to be sure to mention he is a “mulatto” when you are listing things you hate about him. Freudian. I wonder if the dems will go after the cult he belongs to since Obama’s religion was such a hot topic last time. Oh I forgot conservatives are hypocritical wussies so that would be off limits and conservatives would cry and cry and cry about how unfair it all is. Neo you should be careful, make sure your bunker is airtight, I heard Obama’s black panther sasquatch chupacabra muslim marxists have sniffer dogs that can smell your wet pants.
I have a dryer in the bunker for wet pants, and shark repellant,
No dogs, Ochimpy served them all at the last ramma dammma ding dong ceremony in the wh.( also known as rahm-a-Don)
LAND Sharks from SNL now being utilized by his NBPP storm troopers.
well 1/2 negro and 1/2 white = Mulatto. Too bad they didnt teach you that in school either.
chupacabra
Rubio has them waiting in reserve for the Ochimpy flying monkeys, we have all bases covered………(hissss) out!!!
OOH
Missed one, we have Allen West ***inside*** the CBC with nerve gas and a gas mask………Hissss don the foil hats antenni up, super double secret decoder rings set to maximum frequency by Spook
(no) all ready to vote….hissssss out!!
NOW Whoraldo?????
wow conspiracy disease must b spreading….even the elect (donktards) have seemed to catch it……..must be the eeeeevil Karl Roves braim numbing zombie machine on full GOP maximus minimus wave length….
OOPSY
goes with last post
Geraldo wonders if Janet Napolitano has let ‘lesbian cabal’ engage in ‘same sex takeover’ of DHS…
It is interesting you have to be sure to mention he is a “mulatto” when you are listing things you hate about him.
What is inaccurate about using the term “mulatto” to describe Barack Obama? What term would you use to describe someone who had one black parent and one white parent? Half breed seems a little harsh.
Half breed seems a little harsh.
Really?
I remember Cher singing that song about that famous native American Elizabeth Warren. Oh wait…..
HA! Love it.
I understand if you put a sasquatch and a chupacabra in the same room the chupacabra switches from goats and becomes a sasquatch-sucker. That, and the fact that Muslims won’t have anything to do with dogs, and then there is that old racial enmity of Marxists toward blacks, and I think I see the whole Lib coalition falling apart.
BTW if Obama had hidden his tax returns you all would be assuming he took billions of dollars in bribes – bloody
The question is – why is Obama hiding his college transcripts?
And, could some liberal please comment on George Obama? I would love to hear your take on that. Thank you in advance
stumpy squeals: “BTW if Obama had hidden his tax returns you all would be assuming he took billions of dollars in bribes from Chinese-Saudi-Iranian Marxist Muslim Nazis. ”
Well, not exactly.
No one has said the money he got from China was a BRIBE.
But let’s play with your little fantasy for a moment, OK?
“BTW if Obama had hidden his birth records you all would be assuming he had something to hide.”
Or:
“BTW if Obama had hidden his school records you would all assume he had gotten into college as a foreign exchange student named Barry Soetoro, claiming Indonesian citizenship, and could not explain who paid for his education or how someone with such terrible grades managed to get into Columbia and then Harvard Law.”
“BTW if Obama had hidden his passport records you would assume he had traveled to Pakistan as the citizen of another country.”
Oh wait—no you wouldn’t. Because you wouldn’t care.
And of course you are just financial voyeurs, eager for a peek at something you can only imagine, not at all concerned that any of Romney’s money came from some nefarious source but just looking for something you can use in your class warfare antics.
money earned by GOP = eeeeevil
money stolen, bribed, looted by donks = GREAT
see how easy dnc politics are?
Only thing I am sure of is Romney paid over $3M / yr in taxes (that does not include charitable giving) — A “burden” I would aspire to one day as long as the tax rate is not like France.
What is so funny, and so significant, is that the PL trolls are scrambling around frantically trying to find something, ANYTHING, to talk about so they don’t have to talk about the Barry/SloJo ticket they are stuck with.
What do they have? Sasquatch, chupacabras and trying to make a big deal out of the tax code that has a lower tax rate for investment income.
Anyone remember the Dem Congress trying to change that? Of course not. It’s chaff, thrown up by the desperate hoping to distract the clueless.
Ama
a smoke screen to hide the real truth…….
Egypt considering violating treaty with Israel; Sending troops, tanks to border…
Love it
‘It’s Not Islamophobia, It‘s Islamorealism’:
Anti-TRUTHFUL islamic Ads Go Up in N.Y. Suburb“The message I am trying to send is that it is not ‘Islamophobic’ to oppose jihad terror.”
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Personally, I’m happy he won’t release his returns. It keeps his campaign on defense.
defense???
Bwaaaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ahhhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
maybe in your world of 6th graders, and those with college degrees with less knowledge than the 7th graders.
‘I Have No One Else to Ask’: Dinesh D‘Souza Says He Paid Hospital Bill for Obama’s Half-Brother
“Dinesh, you are like a brother to me.”
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D’Souza: Obama Has Put America’s Superpower Status in Jeopardy
President Barack Obama has placed America’s status as a superpower in jeopardy by allowing the debt to reach dangerous new levels and endangering its security by slashing its nuclear arsenal, author Dinesh D’Souza
Casper,
Why do you ignore issues that you proven wrong on time and time again, and continue to parrot the talking point?
Is it a dysfunction? A malady? Or maybe dementia?
On De-Fense? Yeah, they’re just running scared of this amateurish diversion.
“Thanks for the note. It is clear that President Obama wants nothing more than to talk about Governor Romney’s tax returns instead of the issues that matter to voters, like putting Americans back to work, fixing the economy and reining in spending,” he wrote. “If Governor Romney’s tax returns are the core message of your campaign, there will be ample time for President Obama to discuss them over the next 81 days.”
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/17/obama-camp-offers-to-pull-back-on-tax-attacks-if-romney-releases-5-years/#ixzz23qFbIx7P
Cluster,
There has been a number of stories written about Romney’s returns. His campaign has been questioned about them constantly. This blog has had a couple of threads related to the issue.
Defense.
Cap,
there is no defense about it. The legal requirements are met and if the POTUS was truly concerned about legalities, that can be found out with one phone call as previously mentioned. Instead the POTUS prefers to demagogue the issue to rile up the emotions of people like you and Mitch. Of course it doesn’t take much with Mitch.
cluster,
When you are spending the amount of time you have spent defending Romney’s right not to share any more tax returns instead of explaining what a great president Romney would be, you are on defense.
I agree that Romney has fulfilled his legal obligations and that he hasn’t done anything legal as far as paying his taxes.
I have already mentioned several times why I support Romney and what I hope he will do.
Personally, I’m happy he won’t release his returns. It keeps the Libs baying at the moon and looking more and more superficial every day, while he and Ryan go out and talk like adults, about the real problems and the real solutions.
Hey Dennis – where are you? You little puke. Time again to come rushing to the defense of Ahmadenijad.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told an annual anti-Israel protest in Tehran on Friday that the Jewish state was a “cancerous tumour” that will soon be excised, drawing Western rebukes
Please tell us all once again how Ahmadenijad only wants to destroy the Zionists. I love that story.
http://news.yahoo.com/tumour-israel-soon-destroyed-ahmadinejad-091548418.html
Cluster, I’ve never defended Ahmadinejad. I find him generally loathsome. I have however appealed for precision in quoting the words of others, primarily myself and others on this blog but also including Ahmadinejad. You’re reckless in your representation of what other people say, and you often make huge uncritical inferences regarding what they mean. Look up “uncritical inference” – it’s a species of logical fallacy you’re especially prone to.
Once again, Ahmadinejad’s words referenced “The Zionist regime and the Zionists.” He seems pretty consistent about using this formulation, although the American media (and I’m sure the Israelis do as well) take liberties with his actual words.
Consider that if Israel actually is a “Jewish state” as you quote above, then it’s an apartheid state based on race, and there are a significant number of disenfranchised Arab residents (living on their ancesral land) within Israel’s borders. What the heck would the U.S. be doing supporting a racist apartheid regime?
On the other hand, if Israel is not a Jewish apartheid state but a bona fide democracy (as you have claimed before), then Ahmadinejad is just spewing garbage again, as I have noted before that he often does. The things he says are indeed divisive and hateful – but so are the actions of Zionist extremists within Israel, against the Arabs living in their midst. There aren’t many clean hands in that whole scenario. Meanwhile things are getting tough inside Iran, sanctions are starting to bite and Ahmadinejad should be expected to start making more unpleasant noises.
Regarding Israel, I would note once again that the particular regime or party governing any nation is not the same thing as its land mass or its population. It is a distinction that matters. The Soviet regime is gone, wiped off the geopolitical map – but the nation of Russia and its people remain. The Shah’s regime is gone, but Iran and Iranians remain. The same with Myanmar’s military regime. The same could theoretically become true of an apartheid Jewish state, if that’s what exists now – yielding a democratic state with both Israeli and Palestinian residents.
Not to mention that from all appearances it’s Israel preparing to attack Iran, not the opposite.
HEY NEO!!! 13% tax rate Romney. And bragging about it! Funny how he didn’t mention the federal tax he paid.. OH WAIT! HE DIDN’T SINCE HE”S UNEMPLOYED!!! So much for your eye scratching about all those moochers who don’t pay any taxes. Except for you. You poor little thing you.
You people are a pathetic joke. I dare you to refute this tax issue. I dare you. What I am really waiting for is when your heads explode come November. Obama OWNS this. Lets see, who is alienated by these 2. Women. Latinos and now “seniors”. Boys drool and girls rule! ( I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry) I now pronounce your “conservativism” DOA.
http://www.mittromney.com/learn/mitt/tax-return/2010/wmr-adr-return
Consider it refuted. Need someone to read it to you little fella?
Need someone to read it to you little fella?
ROTFLMAO………
I dare you to refute this tax issue. I dare you.
Is that a double dog dare?
I know most people see mitche’s name on a post and pass it by, but we really need to go back and take a look at this>
“Funny how he didn’t mention the federal tax he paid.. OH WAIT! HE DIDN’T SINCE HE”S UNEMPLOYED!!!”
This leaves us wondering just what it is supposed to mean.
That mitche thinks the 13% tax rate mentioned by Romney is only state tax?
That Romney paid no federal tax?
That he didn’t pay federal tax because he no longer has a job?
That if you are unemployed you don’t owe taxes?
????????????????
Sounds like time for mitche to get back on his meds—this one is even more incoherent than usual.
I don’t think I have had this much fun with liberals in a long time. They really seem to think this tax thing is a winner. Lord how they will be surprised in November.
I know, Just look at Casper’s rationale, they write about it, they ask about it and they don’t understand why Mr. And Ms. America don’t give a flying fig about Romney’s taxes.
But they’re going to keep bringing it up and then exclaim, Look how we keep bringing it up, Romney must be worried!
Count,
If it’s not an issue and nobody cares about it, then why respond when someone brings it up?
And Romney responds with … what?
Mild amusement?
Palpable annoyance?
“Thanks but no thanks”?
Yeah, right Cappy, America is waiting with baited breath and whispered humbleness for the next chapter in the Romney Tax Return saga while the Manchurian President and his sidekick Mr. Gaff-o circle the drain.
Meanwhile, Romney/Ryan are out there picking up support from Seniors while Obama and his lapdog media aren’t responding to the withering attacks on Obama’s thrift of $716 Billion dollars from Medicare.
Wisconsin turned RED,
Florida is trending RED.
Ohio is trending RED.
Virginia, South Carolina and New Hampshire are all trending RED.
Romney/Ryan strongest support is coming from SENIORS and you’re prattling on about Tax Returns.
Denial ain’t just a River folks.
Count,
I would also include NC. No one here is worried about tax returns. More worried about the fact that they have no jobs.. Good jobs and then they could fill out a tax return. In reality though, a great deal of the OPM folks are going to find that unemployment is both taxed at Fed and State levels shortly. Oops for them.
We can keep bringing it up because he keeps hiding it, chicken or egg? But he is special so he doesn’t need to show us proles and poors and scum, that is a winning position. I guess we all just have to keep speculating, he probably has some sex slaves hidden offshore is all.
bloody & Cap,
If it is such a winning position, why is it that when we bring up Obama’s “secret” college transcripts, you simply dismiss it as a non issue.
Seriously, you guys need to get out of your own heads now and then.
“Cluster August 17, 2012 at 7:29 pm #
bloody & Cap,
If it is such a winning position, why is it that when we bring up Obama’s “secret” college transcripts, you simply dismiss it as a non issue. ”
Because it is. Look at the difference in the coverage over his transcripts compared to Romney’s tax returns.
That’s only because the media is 100% in Obama’s corner. C’mon Cap, use your head for once.
“Cluster August 17, 2012 at 8:30 pm #
That’s only because the media is 100% in Obama’s corner. C’mon Cap, use your head for once.”
Rush and FOX are for Obama? Right.
You’re right Cap. Rush and Fox are the only MSM outlets.
You’re like debating a 5th grader. I feel sorry for your students. Do you teach them the same way you debate? Have you ever listened to, or read:
CNN
MSNBC
HLN
ABC
NBC
CBS
NYT
LAT
Newsweek
Time
NPR
Any of those ring a bell Cap?
I know/we know casper is unbelievably dense and clueless, but really, cappy—??????
“Look at the difference in the coverage over his transcripts compared to Romney’s tax returns.”
It’s like a whole new dimension of denseness, like a new galaxy of cluelessness.
Poor dear dense casper, actually citing the blatant bias of the Complicit Agenda Media as proof of less importance attached to something that might harm Obama than to something that they hope can harm Romney.
“Cluster August 17, 2012 at 8:30 pm #
You said:
“That’s only because the media is 100% in Obama’s corner. C’mon Cap, use your head for once.”
100% means everybody (simple math). If Rush and FOX aren’t in Obama’s corner 100% of the media isn’t supporting him.
Cap,
I hope your students have better reading comprehension. I said THE MEDiA is 100% in his corner. NOT 100% of the media.
Slow down and read Cap.
“Cluster August 17, 2012 at 9:38 pm #
Cap,
I hope your students have better reading comprehension. I said THE MEDiA is 100% in his corner. NOT 100% of the media.
Slow down and read Cap.”
Now you are getting funny. Are you saying that THE MEDIA only refers to part of the media? Perhaps you need to be clarify what you are saying. If I refer the the United States, I am referring to the entire country, not just the Midwest.
Sorry to point out your mistake Cap, you obviously didn’t take it well. That’s ok though teaching is a good profession for you. At least you can’t be fired and you get a good pension. It’s that security blanket thing.
Cap — try the MSM and they are sailing up the same river in Da Nang that Kerry did(n’t)–the one that he was never in. Fictional. Way out on a branch sawing off the tree behind them.
Oh and just to point something out to you. Rush really isn’t the Media. Rush is a commentary/opinion show, much like Jon Stewart, who also wouldnt be classified as the media. You’re welcome for the tip.
LOL, Conspiracy folks. The world is against you. Boo freaking hoo. When will you recognize that the world is not against you, it’s more that you don’t understand the world? 4moreyears.
Good call on that. The world is a big, scary and hard to understand place. Thank goodness we have President Obama who can explain to us that Iran couldn’t possibly be a threat because it’s such a small country. And VP Biden who is laser focused on that three letter word:
J O B S
You really nailed it 4moreyears.
Iran isn’t a threat to us.
What world do you live in Cap?
If Iran is not a threat, then why in the world would our moron of a President be calling for force to halt their nuclear production capabilities?
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/04/obama-iran-us-force-war-israel_n_1319608.html
Is Obama a saber rattler? I know how you hate saber rattlers.
The real one. Iran doesn’t have the weapons or delivery systems to hurt us.
Of course not, casper. When they repeatedly announce that their goal is a world without the United States in it, they are just making conversation, just like when they say they also plan to create a world without Israel they really mean a world without the political party of Zionism.
It’s just chitchat, nothing to see here. And don’t forget, they only want nuclear technology to, uh, what was that? Oh, yeah, for power. Not to hurt the people they repeatedly say they want to destroy! What in the world could make you think that a nation that says it wants to destroy you and is pursuing the means to destroy you might actually, you know, try to destroy you?
Just like when radical Isalmists threatened to kill Americans they were really just venting–they didn’t mean it. And how could a handful of loudmouthed Muslims pose a threat to the United States?
It’s just talk.
More importantly Cap, you didn’t get the irony of the moron Presidents statement. He stated that Iran wasn’t a threat because of the physical size of the country. That’s deliciously stupid.
Neville Chamberlain would be so proud
The “Ryan rally”? Meanwhile, even Rasmussen has Obama with his first lead in 10 days. So much for the rally.
LOL. Not real convincing Watson. Did you read the internals? Those are real bad for Obama. Romney leads in Wisconsin and Florida. More people trust the GOP on the economy, taxes and healthcare. And more people fear Obama’s Medicare plan than Romney’s. Sorry to point that out to you. You can now call Rasmussen a GOP pollster. Carry on.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Okay, I’ll bite. According to Rasmussen, “Mitt Romney and President Obama still run nearly even in Florida just days after the Republican named Congressman Paul Ryan to be his running mate.”
Like I said, so much for the rally.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/florida/election_2012_florida_president
What are you biting Watson? Or do I want to know? It’s gotta sting that more people trust Romney on healthcare. You know that issue that used to be Obama’s signature piece of legislation.
I am having a good time, are you?
I’m having a great time. Coming over to B4V is always good for comedic relief. It’s gotta suck for you that even Rasmussen has been able to discern no “Ryan rally” in the polls. But don’t worry, Rasmussen’s working on fixing that.
It appears to me that you’re having your ass handed to you. But keep positive thoughts.
We should go back to the old ways. America will heal if people just realize their wrongs.
Cluster said, “Now on to Romney’s taxes. Mitt and Ann Romney have released the legally required tax returns and financial disclosures which have proven to be above board and in compliance with every tax obligation. There is no reason why they should be required to release any more, and further calls for them to do so, are tantamount to a witch hunt. ”
This is just delusional. A witch hunt? Please. You have hounded President Obama for years, and then when the majority of Americans think Mitt should release more tax returns, it’s a witch hunt. Is this a joke on your part, Cluster?
As for the 13%, a lot of people have noticed Romney’s careful phrasing so as to avoid explaining just what taxes he paid. And even if it was 13% federal taxes, this is something that’s going to help him? “I paid less taxes than most of you for the last ten years, so there! And my friend Paul Ryan’s plan will reduce my federal taxes to nearly nothing! Good for ME!”
As far as I’m concerned, it’s completely up to him. There is no legal obligation to do more, as you point out. But since all recent candidates HAVE released the returns that he is unwilling to release, he has to expect that the American public is going to continue believing there must be something weird going on. Evidently he thinks that’s better for him than actually releasing their contents.
John McCain released two years, just like Romney and was never questioned despite similar wealth
Ronald Reagan released only one year – never questioned
John Kerry never released his wife’s returns despite similar wealth and never questioned
Timothy Geithner is an admitted tax evader, was never questioned and ultimately won appointment
But now you want us to believe that this is an issue? Do you have any bridges you’re trying to sell too like Al Sharpton? You’re hilarious.
Watson,
Go read his 57 point plan for starters.
Cluster, do you read or just react to what you assume was said? I agreed with you that he has no legal obligation to release more, and that it’s completely up to him. (Not withstanding your childish whining about a witch hunt. That’s something I’d expect from tiredoflibs.)
Like I said, Cluster, it’s his choice. And it IS a calculated, political choice, and that is all it is. If he feels that releasing his returns will improve his chances, he will. And he may yet. There is nothing Romney wants more desperately than to be president of the United States.
You’re right about Romney wanting to be President Watson. Unlike Obama who just happened to be born a messiah and had greatness thrust upon him.
Good call
Just got the latest Romney appeal for money in the mail today. He would be “honored” to have my “generous and enthusiastic” support as a member of his team. Meanwhile, the four pages say little to nothing about what Romney actually plans to do, other than repeal ObamaCare. Amazingly, he does mention being governor of Massachussets, but of course nothing about RomneyCare, because now that’s evil. Those were Mitt’s dark days, evidently.
I mean, I understand, Cluster, that you’ve got to rally around the guy with an “R” after his name, but it’s so sad to see you acting as though Mittens has been your kind of conservative all along. It’s so compromising of you. Ah, well…. more comedic relief.
Good call on that Watson. Here’s Obama’s plans for reform over the next 4 years:
Any questions?
Aside from my previous post about Romney/Ryan plans–you should spend some time actually understanding what they present. Doubt you will as that might shatter the security of Mommie’s basement but just in case you do–here is a good start:
http://www.mittromney.com/blogs/mitts-view/2012/08/mitt-romneys-plan-stronger-middle-class01
Hats off to you, Cluster . You just said everything that was in the four pages I got from Romney. My guess is that they hired a writer who went to Little Amy’s School of Verbosity.
Don’t read the link that dbschmidt posted Watson. You might learn something. Stay away from that.
The only problem with that, db, is that it doesn’t add up. He’s going to cut taxes, cap spending, and cut the deficit. Anyone can say these things, and politicians usually do. I’ve heard it from every Republican president in my lifetime. And every single one of them has presided over record increases in federal deficits. Why would Romney be any different? There are no reasons for me to believe that he would be.
But, but, but Obama was going to cut the deficit in half in his first term!!!!!!! Then it became what the deficit was when he took office which he hasn’t done. Why, Shazamm–he has outspent every president from Washington to the EVIL Bush in less than 3.5 years.
Oh Yea, I believe him now. Thanks for showing me the light of the one we have been waiting for. Hell, I think his lowering the oceans has caused the crop failures because the sky has refused to produce rain that might raise the oceans.
My guess is that Watson has no problem with GE paying NO TAXES while laying off people. Good for America I tell you.
Isn’t that just capitalism at work, db? But nice job of projecting.
So you really don’t care about taxes right Watson? Why didn’t you say that earlier? We could have saved a lot of time.
Projecting? When I mention an individual (who has paid between 13% – 15% depending on charitable giving) in taxes yearly that exceeds $3M and an industry that has the WH in it’s pocket? Please, my mother lives off her capital gains and dividends which barely cover what the Fed has done to bonds and other investment opportunities via fiat money (QExx???) is next. [Ron Paul for Fed. Chair]
You must be a small man. Not in stature either. Capitalism and the free-markets are the answer until one decides to pick winners (friends and donors) and losers (the rest of us) which goes beyond Obama; however, the game has changed with an anti-colonialist, narcissist in the big chair.
BTW, whizkid, can you tell me how much Romney paid on the money he earned BEFORE he was able to invest it? It appears 35% which would make his tax rate (Federal) about 50%.
What ARE you talking about, db? You said, “My guess is that Watson has no problem with GE paying NO TAXES while laying off people.” That is projecting, db That’s what I was talking about. If you don’t like it, then stop putting words in other people’s mouths. Stop reaching for things that I haven’t said a single word about as though I have. Talk about small.
To Casper and Watson,
I will give you credit for being consistent with your ideology and for being civil. You’re misguided as hell, but civil and I respect that.
“Cluster August 17, 2012 at 10:13 pm #
To Casper and Watson,
I will give you credit for being consistent with your ideology and for being civil. You’re misguided as hell, but civil and I respect that.”
And I give you credit for the same things. To be honest, one of the reasons I continue to come back here is because you come up with posts that make me think.
that make me think.
IMPOSSIBLE
too little too late
“If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
I find no civility in lying, and casper lies.
“There is no reason why they should be required to release any more, and further calls for them to do so, are tantamount to a witch hunt.”
I’ve got two words for you people birth certificate. What goes around . . .
duane vaseline
yes it does; show US the BC, SS, draft, name change, school records, divorce papers, passport etc etc etc
when Mitt pays THREE MILLION DOLLARS to hide his taxes then releases a FAKE tax return then lets talk, until then forker STFU
duane vaseline
ROTFLMAO
********two words********* for you people birth certificate. *********What goes around**********
OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! . . .
The tax return issue will continue to trouble more and more voters, mostly because lowering taxes further for the wealthiest is a centerpiece of the Ryan budget and Romney’s campaign. I believe it will make Mitt’s life more miserable as the weeks go by – from within his own party as much as from without.
But the real matter people should be focusing on is Ryan’s credibility, or the lack thereof. He’s being lauded for creating an imaginary budget – there’s no substance to it (as one sensed when he was being questioned by Britt Hume). His numbers are fairy dust.
The above by Neil H. Buchanan – who’s a real economist. Read the whole thing.
neo,
Nice to know you still have a higher opinion of me than I do of you.
ya gotta love it though we have OWS mobs rampaging i n our streets, blacks murdering 50 people a week in chi cago, NBPP calling for murder of whites and babies nationally, the middle east on fire, war on the horizon hatred between Americans like never before and the best you Fn idiots can come up with is a mans LEGAL taxes??
LOSERS!!!!!!
Nice to know you still have a higher opinion of me than I do of you.
Of course, Im a Fmr Marine, patriot, love my countryand you are a scumball loser, leftist marxist = ENEMY!!………..
neo,
I consider your posts the best examples of current conservative thought. Keep them up.
I consider
GIGO….BFD!
catspuke
THIS is what you stand for and support???
Romney Supporter Spat On by 83-year-old Protester in Wisconsin…
dentures meet mr fist!!
think of this tomorrow when collecting in your “church” with killer tiller hypocrite …..
REPORT: ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ starts crucifixions…
Iran: Israel’s existence ‘insult to all humanity’…
Saudi Cleric: Jews consume blood of children…
Hezbollah’s vow to turn Israel into ‘a real hell’…
Ubama and hitlery must be sooooo proud!!!
Shock Report: Muslim Brotherhood ‘Crucifies’ Opponents on Trees in Front of Presidential Palace
“Under the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, the bottle has been uncorked and the Islamic Genie set loose.”
yeah lets celebrate rahm a dong with them in the wh….
“Romney Supporter Spat On by 83-year-old Protester in Wisconsin…
dentures meet mr fist!!”
Now you want to beat up an octogenarian.
YUP
if you are big enough to spit on me you are big enough to get your lights punched out.
dont want the bill dont order
you libs are pathetic cowards, dont hide behind………….
catspuke
when I came back from Nam in jan 1968 right out of Khe Sanh I walked through the san francisco airport Chest out Uniform pressed medals on sea bag on shoulder and a TRY to spit on me face for you COWARD leftists…..guess what? NO BODY thought it was a good day to die that day. 🙂
neo,
You’re having a great day aren’t you? First you threaten to beat me up. Then you want to kill me, apparently because I disagree with you. Now you want to beat up an 83 year old woman who you have never met because she spit on another person you have never met.
Neocon1, a shining example of of a person with conservative values.
I never said i wanted to kill you, but I would gladly fulfill your other fantasy.
I said I would give my life to protect YOUR freedom, but would take yours to protect the freedom of others USMC!…..communist actions have consequences and there are men in this country that will stand our ground against the threats of violence you leftists are making.
Dont write checks you cant cash catspule.
Moderator: Please rein it in a little bit Neocon. I understand your passion with regards to the military, but your language towards other posters here is unwarranted. Thank you.
You’re the only one making threats of violence, neo.
NO threats…..just the facts maam
and pointing out actions have consequences are NOT THREATS….just a fact of life.
The Top 5 Racist Biden Gaffes …
http://nation.foxnews.com/joe-biden/2012/08/17/top-5-racist-biden-gaffes
democRAT looooove
2 dead, 18 wounded in overnight shootings across Chicago
Shooting at the Family Research Council: Hate from the Left
VIDEO: Heckler Spits in Face of Grandmotherly Romney Supporter in WI
Glenn interviews FRC shooting witness General Jerry Boykin
Saturday, August 18, 2012
“He was going to go through and kill as many people as he could and drop Chick-fil-A bags at every dead body to send a signal that he was reacting to the — our stance on traditional marriage, that being between a man and a woman.
First President to Have a Convicted Felon (RESZKO) Buy Him a Home!
Obama uses ‘swift-boated’ Kerry to slam Navy SEAL critics
Actually, “teacher” who supposedly teaches children how to process the written word, neo was making threats of retaliation against people if they attack him.
mod
yeah I know, I apologize….just these Morons tick me off big time.
Now you want to beat up an 83 year old woman who you have never met because she spit on another person you have never met.
Nooooo
actions have consequences………try it some time and let me know how it worked out for you.
I suggest you spitting in a Hells Angel’s face for starters.
or maybe a COP…..
TAXES???
lets see the NAME change,,,
Obama Lied To The Illinois Bar About Barry Soetoro
http://secondamendmentfreedom.blogspot.com/ ^ | 08/18/2012
neo,
First, I don’t spit on people, ever.
Second, If someone did spit on me I wouldn’t use it as an excuse to beat up an 83 year old woman, or anybody for that matter. I don’t have to prove my manhood by beating people up.
Feel free to keep making the threats though.
catspuke
no threats just reality
really spit in a cops face sometime…..
catspuke
AGAIN……..
“If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”
$3,000,000.00
chi cago? Ubama’s sons?
marxism at it’s best
This time the gunfire came from a mostly black police force, shooting at poor black miners who say their living conditions have hardly improved in the 18 years since apartheid yielded to all-race democracy.”…..
…..Before Thursday 10 people had already died at Marikana in attacks blamed on rivalry between the radical new AMCU and the powerful National Union of Mineworkers, a major ally of the ruling African National Congress.
The two unions condemned that violence, denied taking part in the killings and blamed each other for the troubles.
Zuma’s handling of the unrest could prove pivotal as he tries to stamp out leadership challenges within the ANC, ahead of the elective conference in December where he will seek a second term as party boss.
The NUM is one of South Africa’s most powerful unions, having produced several top ANC leaders, including Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe — seen as a potential challenger to Zuma.”
from an EXTREMELY, EXTREME, EXTREMIST!!!!! 🙂
Are You an Extremist?
Townhall.com ^ | August 18, 2012 | Bill O’Reilly
After Rep. Paul Ryan was announced as Mitt Romney’s running mate, it took less than 24 hours for The New York Times to define Ryan as an “extremist.” In a lead editorial, the paper bannered this sub-headline: “With no plan of his own, Mr. Romney can’t distance himself from Mr. Ryan’s extremist vision.”
That “vision” would be federal spending cuts and entitlement reform.
While chairman of the House Budget Committee, Ryan sent two spending bills to the House, both of which passed but were killed in the Senate, which is controlled by the Democrats. The bills cut federal programs across the board. Ryan is also a fan of reforming Medicare and Social Security, which are going bankrupt.
In the bubble that is the liberal media, trimming government spending and making entitlements more fiscally viable are extreme positions. That’s somewhat ironic because President Obama’s strategy of massive government spending and borrowing is perhaps the most extreme economic plan in the nation’s history. Never before has the USA run up such an enormous debt and had so little to show for it.
So defining Ryan as extreme is an interesting scare tactic — and one that might be extended in the days to come. Here are some other positions that the committed left media consider extreme:
–If you believe traditional marriage should be kept as the exclusive standard, you are not only extreme; you are a homophobe.
–If you believe all Americans should pay less in taxes, you are greedy and an anti-poor extremist.
–If you believe the Second Amendment gives Americans the right to buy and possess guns, you are promoting violence in an extreme way.
–If you believe the government has a duty to combat overseas terrorists without giving them constitutional protections, you are an extreme anti-human rights individual.
–If you believe abortion is the taking of a human life, you are an anti-woman extremist.
–If you support securing the nation’s borders and regulating immigration, you are anti-Hispanic.
The list goes on and on.
By labeling someone as extreme, you can dismiss whatever they say. That’s the strategy being used against Ryan. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd writes: “Ryan should stop being so lovable. People who intend to hurt other people should wipe the smile off their faces.”
OK—— enough is enough.
From now on, accusations of homosexuality are going to be removed and the person who continues to make them will be removed if this continues. Moderator’s call—no whining.
Reprinting examples of black crime will not be tolerated unless they are relevant to the topic. Moderator’s call—-no whining.
This blog is not a place to engage in racial stereotyping or sexual commentary. Moderator’s call—-no whining.
Moderators have discussed the direction of the blog when these kinds of activities are allowed and find them unacceptable.
Profanity is not allowed and we do understand what is meant when only letters are used. No. It is that simple. No. Moderator’s call—-no whining.
Keep it clean, keep it on topic, and do not fall prey to the urge to respond to posts with nothing but insults. Entire conversations will be removed when they degenerate in personal squabbles. Moderator’s call—-no whining.
Moderator,
I stated earlier on this thread that I considered neo’s posts the best examples of current conservative thought. I came to that conclusion because neo posts than anyone else. He is rarely rebuked by any of the conservatives on this blog and in fact is often defended by the other conservatives. If however, the above is to be your policy then I was wrong in those assumptions.
me too
love ya cap SMOOOOOCH….
so THIS is a “threat”?
interesting….
“Romney Supporter Spat On by 83-year-old Protester in Wisconsin…
dentures meet mr fist!!”
Douglas Shulman, Commissioner of the IRS, who reports to Timothy Geitnner, who is ironically an admitted tax evader.
or
call ole Charley wrangle…..
casper, quit your tap dancing and tell us what IS “conservative thought”.
And don’t think your lying, as I pointed out above, puts you above ANYONE who posts on this blog. You are as guilty as anyone of posting vile garbage and pretending it is political discourse.
Casper,
You wouldn’t know conservative thought if it bit you in the ass.
“Cluster
August 18, 2012 at 10:27 pm #
Casper,
You wouldn’t know conservative thought if it bit you in the ass.”
I didn’t know thoughts could do that. Having followed this blog for 8 or 9 years I have a pretty good idea about what the conservatives on this blog think, or at least what you express.
“….I have a pretty good idea about what the conservatives on this blog think
What do you think I think, casper? Or Spook? Or the Count? Or Cluster? or dbschmidt?
And while claiming to know what we think, you still duck and dodge the request that you lay out YOUR political philosophy, YOUR idea for the best way to govern the nation. Why is that?
I’ll make it easier for you.
My political philosophy, my belief in the best way to govern the nation, is that the best blueprint for governing the United States of America is the Constitution of the United States of America.
There.
Every other political thought or idea fits very comfortably under that umbrella.
That is, that the United States leapfrogged over every other civilization in the world, over all the sophisticated nations that sneered at this unruly rabble that thought it could do better than the established and revered monarchy of so many generations, and within 100 years established new standards of economic prosperity, individual liberty, and opportunity for all—and that the ONLY thing that made this possible was our Constitution.
That our success was due to the establishment of a central government severely restricted, in perpetuity, regarding size, scope and power, leaving the day to day decisions of the people TO the people,
That the exclusion of government in commerce allowed a free market system which proved itself to be so far superior to any other economic system that it allowed this raw new nation to dominate the world economy.
That this nation only started to falter when the basic tenets of the Constitution were stretched, ignored, violated, subverted, or in any way weakened.
*******************************
You obviously support the Left, or at least we have to think that, given your strident attacks lately on anything that seems to represent the Right.
So please explain this allegiance to this political system. Explain the system as you see it, and its superiority as you see it. Tell us why you think this system is a better way to govern the nation than the Constitution.
Yet you still cannot, or will not, lay out a political philosophy which you think represents the best way to govern the country.
Someone, a heckler spit on an 83 year old woman. The 83 year old woman is a Romney supporter, and they spit on her. I would like to spit the heckler’s eye full of tobacco juice. Tell them, now go heckle some more, if you can see straight. lol
“Romney Supporter Spat On by 83-year-old Protester in Wisconsin…”
The 83-year-old woman did the spitting, on a Romney supporter.
Try to keep up.
casper, finalizing your journey to the Dark Side has certain polished your bitch skills. I don’t know when I have seen a man engage in so many snide, petty, bitchy little snot nuggets as you have today.
And what’s with the overt lying? You used to just coyly imply things, so you could then slink back and claim that no, you really didn’t come out and SAY that…… It was always one of your weaselly traits that I found annoying, but now you are just stepping up and out-and-out LYING.
It’s quite an ugly side of you, and let’s face it, the previous persona was not all that attractive.
neo did NOT say he wanted “….to beat up an 83 year old woman who you (he had) never met because she spit on another person (he had never met).” He blustered that if someone spit on him he would retaliate.
Where did he say he wants to kill you? Much less simply for not agreeing with him?
Where did he say he wants to beat you up?
Here’s an idea you and your fellow travelers seem to find quite RADICAL and even EXTREME—that is, defining and explaining your political philosophy and then explaining when and where it has produced the results you want for this country.
Or are you more comfortable hiding behind a veil of catty and snarky pseudo-insults?
What’s the matter? You don’t have the courage of your convictions? Or you don’t even HAVE convictions and just get off on being snotty?
Reprinting profanity and crudity will not excuse you. Do not try this again. //Moderator
Casper
August 18, 2012 at 2:49 pm #
“Reprinting profanity and crudity will not excuse you. Do not try this again. //Moderator”
I apologize for reposting neo’s comments.
Amazona,
“Where did he say he wants to kill you? Much less simply for not agreeing with him?
Where did he say he wants to beat you up?”
They have been deleted and I’m not allowed to repost them.
Well, casper, you have created kind of a little problem for yourself here, haven’t you?
You got caught in a big fat, AND REPEATED, lie. How did that go again?
Oh yeah….“Now you want to beat up an 83 year old woman who you have never met because she spit on another person you have never met.”
And
“If someone did spit on me I wouldn’t use it as an excuse to beat up an 83 year old woman, “
Now you claim, without proof, that neo said he wanted to kill you, a statement accompanied by Classic Casper, the coy little passive-aggressive disclaimer that this alleged threat was “…APPARENTLY..” only because he doesn’t agree with you (trying to slip in a claim that this alleged threat is based solely on political disagreement), and also that he threatened to “beat you up”.
So what do I know?
I know that you are a liar.
I know that you use the term “beat up” very loosely.
And I know that you are trying the equivalent of “the dog ate my homework”.
And you other claims are supposed to be believed?
BTW, cappy, if these horrible threats were deleted, how could you repost them?
Ooops, I forgot to point out the double lie, or is it a triple lie—that not only did neo threaten to “beat up” and old woman he had “never met” but that his motive would be that she has spit on someone else, a third party, whom he had also never met.
Lie # 1—“beat up”
Lie # 2 —on a woman he had “never met” (when he clearly said he would introduce her to his fist IF SHE SPIT ON HIM and I would consider the spitting to be a form of “meeting”
Lie # 3—BECAUSE she spit on a third party
Now, I know you’re dumb as dirt, and I know that you have some pretty serious mental filters that distort pretty much everything into “Liberal = Good” and “Conservative = Bad” even though you’ve never been able to define either one, but neither stupidity nor mindless bias can explain your LIES.
cappy is on a roll today….
“BTW, cappy, if these horrible threats were deleted, how could you repost them?”
It’s called copy a paste. I saved them onto another document.
jeese get over it catspuke it’s all internet play, real but fake….like wrestling or democrat politics.
“It’s called copy a paste. I saved them onto another document.”
you hang around with sixth graders too much, squealer..
taxes = smokescreen to hide from the truth
As ATP Oil Files For Bankruptcy, CEO Blames Obama For Company’s Collapse
Saturday, August 18, 2012
When I get Paul Bulmahn on the phone rumors are swirling that he’s just days from putting his company, ATP Oil & Gas, into Chapter 11. He can’t confirm it yet, but he wants to make one thing perfectly clear: If it does come to bankruptcy (which it did on August 17) it isn’t his fault. The founder and chairman of publicly traded ATP (Nasdaq:ATPG), Bulmahn wants the world to know that the Obama Administration—and its illegal ban on deepwater drilling in the wake of the BP disaster—is to blame for the implosion of his company. Not him.
Obama: Ryan plan would cut Romney’s tax rate to 1 percent
The Hill ^
naw then he would have to become a donk….
Obama inherited Bush’s economic disaster and turned it into an apocalypse. He superlatively turned worse to worst.
Look at our current financial team — Obama, a community organizer who made money from a dubious memoir, and Biden, who is too busy bragging about how poor he is to suggest that he might know anything at all about finances or economics.
Who in his right mind would rather have an economy run by Obama and Biden than one run by the investment banker Romney and the head of the House Budget Committee, Ryan?
(evidently most of the lefty trolls here)
Obama and Biden look like stickball players trying to bat at Yankee Stadium. They don’t belong there. They don’t measure up to their offices. They are the mascots of the failed Democrat team. They are not World Series caliber.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/08/romneys_tax_returns_dont_matter.html#ixzz23vxsZbIA
chi cago Ubama supporters
Police say a waitress was attacked at a Red Lobster restaurant in Illinois on Friday — the second such customer-on-server assault at the location in seven months.
The latest incident at the Fairview Heights, Ill. restaurant happened at about 2:15 p.m. Friday afternoon, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported. Police said the waitress had water thrown on her and was hit repeatedly by either open hands or menus. Three suspects were taken into custody.
Police told the newspaper the motive for the attack was unknown, but a witness to the incident told KMOV-TV it started when the three black female customers were unhappy that the server kept refilling their water glasses.
The witness said that as the waitress walked away, one of the customers threw a water glass at her, striking her in the back of the head. When the victim turned around, the witness said the customer picked up a menu and hit her in the face with it.
You and your “real economists”. Well, I’ll see your “real economists” with Laffer and Sowell, and raise you with the evidence of the utter failure of the current economic plan.
Laffer? You’re kidding, right? You’d have been more persuasive at least in the abstract by citing Hayek or von Mises.
I’ll raise you yet again with the proven failure of trickle down economics, which Romney and Ryan apparently believe the electorate is stupid enough to fall for again. http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2012/06/laughing-at-the-laffer-curve.html
The current plan can’t even be evaluated because cleaning up the train wreck Obama inherited isn’t the work of a single presidential term, and Congress has persisted in blocking and/or obstructing any Obama policy that might produce success.
You think the train wreck Obama inherited in 2008 was bad?
Wait till you see the train wreck he will inherit in 2012!
BTW, my economists don’t depend on crystal balls or other forms of mind-reading so they can claim to know the thought processes and feelings of others. You seem quite impressed with that technique.
catspuke
I consider your posts the best examples of current conservative though
I speak for my self, NOT for “conservatives” any more than you speak for “teachers” or “Christians” how do you live with your self ?
backing a marxist commie muslim, doper, homosexual?? Oh WAIT!!
I didn’t say you spoke for conservatives, only that I consider your posts the best examples of conservative thought on this blog.
casper, you can’t even DEFINE “conservative thought”. I’ve repeatedly asked you to do so, and you have never been able to.
All you are doing now is acting very snitty and snotty, with your coy little barbs.
But at least you are out of the closet and openly Liberal.
Now—please define conservative thought and/or why you are supporting the Left. Think you are up to that? Turn around and put on that Waldo hat, pretend it is a thinking cap, and work very hard at it.
What is it exactly, that makes you think the Obama plan is the best way to govern the country?
You have told us you believe in the Constitution (though, now that I think of it, your take on the Constitution is so distorted and goofy it’s hard to tell WHAT you think it is…) so please explain to us how supporting the unlimited expansion of the size and scope of the federal government is consistent with a belief that the Constitution is the law of the land and the way we are supposed to govern the nation.
There—-I laid out a simple essay question for the teacher. What say you?
What an interesting group of comments—if by “interesting” you mean mindless attacks on Ryan and casper finally coming out of the closet as a true hard-core Lib. Oh a PL Lib for sure,as he has never been able or at least willing to define his ideology and defend it. But at least he is no longer playing the mousy little passive-aggressive “moderate” he used to pretend to be.
Now he is just plain aggressive, and wholly on the side of the Left.
We can look at the collection of PL vitriol here and feel quite confident about this election cycle, because I think it is a good cross section of what the Left has to offer as the foundation of its campaign.
Remember, most of the voters out there are not ardent, hate-driven PL trolls who seek out conservative blogs to hurl jibes and insults. So we can’t take the vitriol of the resident trolls as an example of how the mainstream American feels. These people are in a class of their own,one that used to be described in Abnormal Psych classes but which has since been validated by the Left as political commentary.
No,what they are showing us is what the Left is running on. These losers get their ‘information” from the people putting together the campaign strategy, such as it is. And it can be summed up as:
Do not discuss the deficit, the debt, the payoffs, the buyouts, the downgrading of our credit rating, the deaths in Afghanistan, the shifting of Medicare funding to the “health care” program. the disappearance of billions of dollars allegedly spent to stimulate the economy, the failure of the Senate to meet its Constitutional requirement for producing a budget, unemployment, jobs, or the other failures of the Obama regime.
Try frantically to portray the Right as just so darned evil and bad no one should vote for them. Make this an election of voting AGAINST instead of voting FOR, because the Left has no reason to vote FOR their candidates.
Depend on ridicule, lies, and trying to shift focus to irrelevant non-issues such as Romney’s taxes and Ryan’s appearance.
Ramp up the divisiveness program, working overtime to create even more distance among target groups—-blacks, Latinos, women, gays, and then of course the class warfare theme.
This is all the Left has, and the passionate efforts of the PL trolls here, including casper, illustrate it with every post.
Wow, talk about a thread going off the rails. I applaud the moderators for at least trying to bring some sanity to this place. Until you do, NeoClown is indeed the face of B4V. I don’t think even you want that.
Little Amy said, “Try frantically to portray the Right as just so darned evil and bad no one should vote for them. Make this an election of voting AGAINST instead of voting FOR, because the Left has no reason to vote FOR their candidates.” Little Amy, this is precisely the predicament you find yourself in. Not a one of you wanted Romney in the first place, but now you’re stuck with him and having to make the best of it–mainly because of your hatred of President Obama. If that’s not voting AGAINST, I don’t know what is.
1. When we first started to talk about the GOP ticket, months ago, I said my dream ticket was Romney/Bolton.
When some posters had objections to Romney, and when there were other people in the race I really liked, I supported them, but I never turned on Romney.
And everyone said that even though they preferred other people they would back Romney.
2. This “hatred” meme you Lefties are trying to project onto us is getting very tiresome—but then, to people who base what are supposed to be rational political decisions on emotion, I suppose it is natural to project the same emotional basis onto other people.
But you need to know that every time one of you PL trolls accuses us of just “hating” Obama, of just being driven by negative emotion, we can point to two things: One is the abysmal record of Obama that has even supporters of him in ’08 realizing he is a dud, and the other is that even those of us who did have negative EMOTIONS about Romney realize that he is still vastly more qualified for the job than Barry. That is, we do not base our political calculations and decisions on emotion, positive or negative.
We leave that to you, the people who ardently support Obama without even being able to define his ideology. Or yours.
theshadowiswatching
LOL
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