Not All Democrats

This was something that I posted as a comment at the old BlogsforBush shortly after the 2004 election, and back when I was still a registered Republican.  Amazingly, about 90% of it is still relevant after 8-1/2 years, proving that, in politics, some things never change.

This started out as a contest with a Liberal Democrat friend of mine during the 2004 election, to see which one of us could list the most things we disliked about each other’s political party. About that same time I heard a discussion on the radio about racial profiling and the war on terror. The point was made that, while not all Muslims are terrorists, the vast majority of terrorists are Muslims. Political junkie that I am, my first thought was that this same principle applies to Democrats. As the list grew, it reaffirmed the reason I am a Republican. In addition to supporting Republican principles of smaller, less intrusive government, lower taxes, entrepreneurship and personal responsibility, there are just so many things about the Democrat Party that I find morally repugnant and intellectually dishonest.

1. Not all Democrats compare their political opponents to Hitler and refer to them publicly as fascists, Nazis, digital brown shirts, book burners, Satan, the real terrorists, worse than Sadam, etc., but it is only Democrats who do this. (These are from public comments by prominent Democrats just during the 2004 campaign. I have NEVER heard a Republican use any of these words to describe a Democrat.)

2. Not all Democrats support partial birth abortion, but virtually all supporters of partial birth abortion are Democrats.

3. Not all Democrats are radical environmentalists who believe that man represents the greatest threat to the planet, but nearly all radical environmentalists are Democrats.

4. Not all Democrats oppose private property rights, but the vast majority of those who oppose private property rights are Democrats.

5. Not all Democrats oppose school choice, but the majority of those who do are Democrats.

6. Not all Democrats believe the government can spend our money more wisely than we can, but most of the people who do are Democrats.

7. Not all Democrats support homosexual marriage, but the majority of those who support homosexual marriage are Democrats.

8. Not all Democrats believe that the main purpose of a business is to provide jobs, but nearly all who believe so are Democrats.

9. Not all Democrats believe that our Constitution is a living document that can and should be changed primarily by the courts rather than by the will of the People through the amendment process, but most who believe this way are Democrats.

10. Not all Democrats praise and admire (or, at the very least, apologize for) brutal communist dictators like Fidel Castro, but the only people who do are Democrats.

11. Not all Democrats believe that if we just leave the terrorists alone, they will leave us alone, but the vast majority who believe so are Democrats.

12. Not all Democrats support turning over a substantial portion of our national security to the United Nations, but the only people who support this are Democrats.

13. Not all Democrats believe that by making America weaker we will make America safer, but virtually all who believe so are Democrats.

14. Not all Democrats believe that tax cuts cause deficits, but the majority of people who do are Democrats. (Federal revenue from individual income taxes grew at a nearly 50% faster rate in the five years following Reagan’s tax cuts than it did during the five years following Bush Sr.’s and Clinton’s tax increases in the early 90’s. (source – Statistical Abstract of US) Were it not for 911, the Dot.Com stock market bubble burst, the War on Terror and numerous corporate scandals that originated during the Clinton years, the Bush tax cuts would have likely produced the same result. As it is, most economists agree that the tax cuts, at the very least, dramatically lessened the severity of the recession. A noted Nobel Laureate in Economics recently stated publicly that the only thing wrong with the Bush tax cuts was that they weren’t big enough. (update – summer, 2005 – Federal revenue from individual income taxes increased dramatically)

15. Not all Democrats want to repeal the Second Amendment, but most of those who do are Democrats. If they ever mount a serious attempt at repeal, they will find out why the Founding Fathers included it in the Bill of Rights. (Hint – it doesn’t have anything to do with hunting or target shooting.)

16. Not all Democrats have a static view of the economy, but nearly all who do are Democrats. A static view holds that for every winner of life’s lottery there must, by necessity, be a loser; that the rich got that way only at the expense of the poor. A Dynamic view holds that our economy is ever-expanding, that a rising tide lifts all boats.

17. Not all Democrats believe that there are people in this world who neither desire nor deserve freedom, but virtually the only people who express this belief publicly are Democrats. (Of all the beliefs and positions on this list, I find this to be the most offensive.) This “cultural condescension” as Ronald Reagan termed it, has been soundly rebuked in such major world powers as Germany, Japan and India. In fact, the number of free, democratic governments has quadrupled in the last 30 years, a growth spurt of freedom unequaled in human history. The most absurd question posed by Democrats with regard to the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq is “what will we do if they vote for an Islamic theocracy”? That is like asking what we would do if an innocent person freed from prison voted to go back to prison.

18. Not all Democrats hold the American Military in distain, but the vast majority of those who do are Democrats.

19. Not all Democrats believe that we deserved what happened to us on September 11, 2001, but most of those who believe so are Democrats.

20. Not all Democrats are playing politics with national security, but virtually the only ones doing so are Democrats.

21. Not all Democrats believe people should receive government assistance based on the color of their skin instead of their economic circumstances, but it is almost exclusively Democrats who believe this.

22. Not all Democrats believe the First Amendment applies only to those who agree with them, but it is clearly only Democrats who believe this. During the 2004 election cycle Democrats tried to stop the publishing of the book “Unfit for Command”, then threatened legal action against bookstores that sold it. They also threatened legal action against radio and TV stations that carried the Swift Vet ads, and attempted to get the FCC to stop the Sinclair Television Network airing of the Vietnam documentary “Stolen Honor”. One Kerry campaign staffer, Chad Clanton, even went so far as to threaten Sinclair in public, saying “they better hope we don’t win”. (THIS IS REALLY FRIGHTENING!) On the flip side, anti-Bush books, documentaries and news shows have numbered in the dozens, one even based largely on forged military documents (a felony). There has been no effort (at least publicly) on the part of the Bush campaign to stifle any of these, often vicious, attacks.

23. Not all Democrats believe convicted felons and illegal aliens should be allowed to vote, but it is only Democrats who believe this.

24. Not all Democrats believe public school teachers should not be held accountable for education results, but it is mostly Democrats who believe this.

25. Not all Democrats advocate violence as an acceptable form of public protest, but Democrats have a virtual monopoly on violence as a protest tactic. During the 2004 election cycle local Republican headquarters have been shot at, broken into, ransacked and stormed by union-led mobs. Bush supporters have been assaulted and had their tires slashed. I have not seen one single report of any of these tactics being used by Republicans.

26. Not all Democrats deny the existence of good and evil, but it is mostly Democrats who are apprehensive about defining things in terms of good and evil lest they be perceived as morally judgmental.

27. Not all Democrats are radical feminists, but virtually all radical feminists are Democrats.

28. Not all Democrats confuse patriotism with loyalty, but it is mostly Democrats who seem not to understand the difference. Patriotism is a feeling, a “love or devotion to one’s country.” Loyalty, by definition, is an action word. It is “allegiance to one’s country” or “faithfulness to one’s government.” Many traitors have come and gone calling themselves “patriots.” Few would agree they were being “loyal.”

29. Not all Democrats believe we are under-taxed, but the only people who believe so are Democrats. They often point to the United States as being the lowest taxed of all developed countries as though that was a bad thing. It is the reason our unemployment rate is half and our economic growth rate is double or triple that of most of the European countries Democrats like to cite as examples we should emulate.

30. Not all Democrats support using our military primarily for humanitarian reasons but not when our interests are threatened, however, it is mostly Democrats who believe this way.

31. Not all Democrats are cheaters, but election fraud by Democrats has become so widespread that it’s even inspired a new best-selling book: “If It’s Not Close, They Can’t Cheat”. When was the last time you heard reports of “dead” Republicans voting?

32. Not all Democrats support the exploitation of injured, ill and physically handicapped people for political purposes, but Democrats have refined such exploitation into an art form. Recent exploitations of Christopher Reeve, Michael J. Fox, Max Cleland and the amputee soldier reciting a litany of lies in the recent TV ad funded by Operation Truth, coupled with the blatant lie that President Bush has banned stem cell research, are simply beyond contempt.

33. Not all Democrats believe that people like Whoopie Goldberg, Sean Penn, Danny Glover, and Michael Moore represent the “heart and soul of America”, but it is only Democrats, including their Presidential nominee (who said so publicly), who believe so.

34. Not all Democrats think that Homeland Security should be held hostage to union collective bargaining demands, but it was only Democrats in Congress who opposed the creation of the Department of Homeland Security unless it contained a collective bargaining provision. Then they had the nerve to publicly demagogue the President because of his opposition to unionization of DHS.

35. Not all Democrats, when they’re unable to defend their positions, resort to calling their political opponents names, (ie: racist, bigot, homophobe, etc.) but this is a tactic used almost exclusively by Democrats.

36. Not all Democrats believe that America spreads nothing but evil and misery around the world, but it is only Democrats who believe this way.

37. Not all Democrats are oblivious to the Law of Diminishing Returns, but Democrats in particular seem not to understand this important concept as it applies to government spending related to problem solving. (ie: clean air and water)

38. Not all Democrats realize it yet, but their party has become defined, as the noted columnist Victor Davis Hanson so aptly put it, “by pampered New York metropolitan columnists, billionaire heiresses, financial speculators, and a weird assortment of embittered novelists, bored rock stars and out-of-touch Hollywood celebs”.

39. Not all Democrats see the desirable outcome of military conflict as an exit strategy rather than as victory, but it is almost exclusively Democrats who believe this way.

40. Not all Democrats believe the solution to energy independence is through restricting energy consumption and expanding alternative energy sources (don’t even get me started on their hypocrisy with regard to alternative sources) rather than by simply finding more existing sources of energy (or some combination of the three), but it is mostly Democrats who hold this view.

41. Not all Democrats compare Terrorists to our Revolutionary Minutemen and refer to them as “Freedom Fighters”, but it is only Democrats who have made such references publicly. (This comes in a close second to #17 in the offensive category) The real Freedom Fighters are the men and women of the United States Military. I challenge anyone who doubts this to make a side by side list of all the countries Islamic Terrorists have freed from oppression and the number that have been liberated by the US Military.

42. Not all Democrats believe the Boy Scouts is an evil organization, but the individuals in the ACLU who are waging all out war on the Boy Scouts are certainly not Republicans. As a former Eagle Scout, I am repulsed by the ACLU’s attempts to force ideologies on the Boy Scouts in the name of diversity that are inconsistent with their founding principles.

43. Not all Democrats preach tolerance but practice intolerance (of those who disagree with them), but Democrats have become highly skilled at such hypocrisy.

44. Not all Democrats value effort over results, but such a mindset has come to define the modern Democrat Party. I’m not sure if it’s because the Democrat Party is dominated by liberals who are more emotional and effort oriented, or if Democrats would rather just have specific problems as ongoing campaign issues instead of simply solving the problems in the first place. Either way it’s a difficult position to defend.

45. Not all Democrats are anti-Christian (in fact, many are devout Christians), but the anti-Christian vitriol and hostility coming from liberal Democrats is a poison that, if not checked, will lead to a marginalization from which The Democrat Party may not soon recover. One only needs to go online and read the Letters to the Editor page of any major newspaper or news magazine to see the extent of the problem.

46. Not all Democrats value equality over liberty, but I believe one of the main reasons the Democrat Party is in decline (anyone who doubts this must be living under a rock.) is the growing number of Democrats who believe equality trumps every other human condition. This kind of thinking breeds moral relativism, resulting in the elevation of immoral or amoral minorities at the expense of moral majorities.

47. Not all Democrats favor diplomatic negotiations over military victory as the surest road to lasting peace, but diplomacy clearly finds its home in the Democrat Party while history is emphatically on the side of victory.

48. Not all Democrats believe in a dependent society as opposed to an ownership society, but the opposition to President Bush’s proposals for Personal Retirement Accounts, Medical Savings Accounts and Lifetime Savings Accounts is almost exclusively by Democrats.

49. Not all Democrats confuse values with opinions, but the 2004 election proved that a large number of Democrats don’t know the difference. An opinion is what we think about an issue. Values concern what we know to be right, given what we have been taught – – religiously, ethically and morally. One can only hope that peoples’ values inform their opinions. Until a majority of Democrats understand this concept they will continue to lose elections.

50. And last but not least, not all Democrats eventually get fed up with the fact that their party has been hijacked by the lunatic fringe and become Republicans, but there are a lot more ex-Democrats in the Republican Party than the other way around. Kind of says it all, doesn’t it?

If you are a Democrat, do you admit to supporting the beliefs, principles, policies and positions stated here? If not, you are out of step with the leaders of your party. If you do, how do you defend your position without ignoring the facts and the truth? You ultimately risk being tied by interests you cannot or will not admit to arguments you cannot defend.

117 thoughts on “Not All Democrats

  1. J. R. Babcock (@JRBabcock)'s avatar J. R. Babcock (@JRBabcock) April 14, 2013 / 9:23 am

    Too bad the Republican Party isn’t more skilled at pointing out these differences.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 11:28 am

      JR

      the GOP is trying to be them.

  2. Cluster's avatar Cluster April 14, 2013 / 9:54 am

    Re: #28 and the exploitation of people – I think how the Democrats are exploiting Gabbie Giffords is disgusting.

    Re: the following:

    24. Not all Democrats believe public school teachers should not be held accountable for education results, but it is mostly Democrats who believe this.

    I have been thinking about writing something on the Atlanta cheating scandal but haven’t had the time. I will say that I think it’s very sad how quiet the media, the President, the Democrats and our liberals have been on the issue. Our educational system is a joke, and following in Spook’s footsteps, I will say that not all Democrats are teachers, but the vast majority of teachers are Democrats.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 10:53 am

      I do not see how anyone can call themselves a partiot, Christian, morally straight, and be a member of the donkRAT party.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 2:00 pm

        Neo,

        As you can see from the comments (and the lack of Lefty comments), there’s not a lot to like about the modern Democrat Party. You take away the free guv’mint cheese that they use to buy votes, and they’re on the ash heap of history in a flash. I will give them this: they knew 50 years ago that the path to success lay in gaining control of the education system, and they did it. Fortunately, even though several generations have been brainwashed, reality is also a powerful teacher, and many of those who received a dumbed-down education are learning the disadvantage it’s stuck them with.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 11:29 am

      cluster

      and these were minority democrats shhhhhhhhhhh!!

  3. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 11:12 am

    I got a long email from a good friend this morning — one of those “what ye sow, so shall ye reap, moral to the story” kinds of messages. I won’t post the whole thing, but the moral at the end is worth sharing and kind of dovetails in a converse way with the list in the main post

    If you plant honesty, you will reap trust
    If you plant goodness, you will reap friends
    If you plant humility, you will reap greatness
    If you plant perseverance, you will reap contentment
    If you plant consideration, you will reap perspective
    If you plant hard work, you will reap success
    If you plant forgiveness, you will reap reconciliation

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 11:24 am

      what I find puzzling is that on a thread here where IDEOLOGY was being discussed, yet quotes from william ayers and prof karinga about having to murder millions of Americans and OATH KEEPER pledge were removed by the moderator……

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona April 14, 2013 / 12:17 pm

        neo, I have to agree. Very few people understand the significance of having a president who has had, and still has, a close relationship with people like Mr. and Mrs. Bill Ayers.

        I know the Left claims it was just a fleeting and superficial acquaintance, but it was, and is, far more than that. Bernadine Dorhn (Mrs. Ayers) was in India when the Obamas were there, and she gave absolutely vicious and lying statements to the Indian press about the United States, interviews which were sought and printed because of her association with the President and her presence in India during his trip.

        Bill Ayers spoke out about undermining the government of the United States, and tried to accomplish it. While he was never, as far as we know, guilty of actually killing anyone, it was not for lack of trying, and he was arrested right before he was able to enact his plan to bomb a police station at shift change, a time chosen to involve as many officers as possible.

        He admitted to his crimes. He and his wealthy, string-pulling, father stood on the courthouse steps while a grinning Bill bragged to the press, “Guilty as hell and free as a bird”.

        Bernie, on the other hand, DID kill people. She also found it “cool” and “groovy” that actress Sharon Tate was stabbed in her pregnant belly with a fork, and pranced around making a fork symbol with her index and pinkie fingers extended, in support of this atrocity.

        These people are now highly regarded academics, with close ties to the White House. There’s not a much better example of how far this nation has sunk than that.

        I have no idea why references to this couple would be deleted.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 11:43 am

      cluster
      I think this was more about giving up second amendment rights for supposed security than financial.

  4. tiredoflibbs's avatar tiredoflibbs April 14, 2013 / 11:54 am

    In the case of the sequestration:

    Not all Democrats were liars, but all those who lied were Democrats.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster April 14, 2013 / 12:10 pm

      I think we’re getting the hang of this. In regards to the “war on women”

      Not all Democrats denigrated women, but all those who did were Democrats.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona April 14, 2013 / 12:18 pm

        Good call

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 1:00 pm

        Not all Democrats denigrated women, but all those who did were Democrats.

        larry flynt

  5. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 14, 2013 / 12:21 pm

    Hmmmm. 15 comments so far, including this one, and not a peep out of any of our resident Libs.

    Challenging them on ideology didn’t work, as they don’t know what ideology is, much less have one of their own, or at least nothing that goes deeper than “conservatives don’t think poor people should have nice things”. But specifics sure run them off.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 12:36 pm

      But specifics sure run them off.

      That was not my intent. I really thought Casper could come up with a whole slew of things he dislikes about Republicans, having professed to having been one at one point) I wish I had kept the list my friend compiled about Republicans. I think he came up with something like 16 or 17, IIRC, and they were mostly superficial, identity politics kinds of fluff. The only one I can recall for sure was:

      Not all Republicans are anti-choice, but most who are are Republicans. (and, of course, he was referring to abortion, not school choice) I’m reasonably sure he also made reference to the GOP being the party of the rich and not caring about the poor, and being the party of war mongers — the usual stereotypes.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 14, 2013 / 5:47 pm

        Spook,
        The reason this thread is devoid of liberal comment is that your list is too absurd for a rational response. It’s full of pathetic caricatures and flimsy straw men. Very sad you’re so brainwashed.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 14, 2013 / 7:26 pm

        For instance, number one on your list:

        “1. Not all Democrats compare their political opponents to Hitler and refer to them publicly as fascists, Nazis, digital brown shirts, book burners, Satan, the real terrorists, worse than Sadam, etc., but it is ONLY (emphasis mine) Democrats who do this. ”

        …hmmm, I didn’t know your hero Glen Beck was a Democrat. Learn something new at bfv everyday…

        http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-may-12-2010/back-in-black—glenn-beck-s-nazi-tourette-s

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona April 14, 2013 / 8:19 pm

        I didn’t know Glenn Beck is Spook’s hero and I didn’t know he is a Republican.

        Too funny that a defender of the Left, the source of such gems as claiming Bush took our young people off to get killed just to make some of his friends richer, or that all conservatives hate minorities, or the goofball idea of “code” inherent in anything a conservative says that proves racism, or that Republicans think only rich people should be able to have nice things, is suddenly all fluttery about painting political opponents with a broad brush.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 12:43 am

        Ama,
        No one said Beck is a Republican. My point was, by Spooks assertion, he is a Democrat. Do try to keep up.
        And as for all of the imagined attributes of a liberal you lay upon me, could you quote me where I defended the positions you attribute to me? No? Is it because I never espoused those positions and you’re just arguing with liberal phantoms in your head? Do you ever get exhausted at disagreeing with imaginary opinions?

        Ironic that I should chide Spook with erecting straw men and you post a rebuttal laden with simple-minded straw men.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:50 am

        rustybrownshorts

        you been puffin the crack pipe again?

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:56 am

        rustybrownshorts

        JON Fn STEWART???

        REALLY?????

        Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ….LOONS R US ROTFLMAO!!!

  6. Amazona's avatar Amazona April 14, 2013 / 12:26 pm

    “10. Not all Democrats praise and admire (or, at the very least, apologize for) brutal communist dictators like Fidel Castro, but the only people who do are Democrats.”

    Ever see a Conservative wearing a Che Guevera T shirt? Yet the Left has made a hero out of a common psychopathic murderer.

  7. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 12:45 pm

    Sort of OT, but did anyone here catch the Glenn Beck show (on-line or on Blaze TV), on Friday, I think — a discussion about religion and morality with Glenn (a Morman), Rabi Daniel Lapin (a Jew) and Penn Jillette (an Atheist)? One of the most interesting discussions I’ve ever heard.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 12:58 pm

      ABSOLUTELY LOVED the question………….

      “IF tomorrow 1 billion muslims were to become evangelical Christians would the world be a better place”?

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 1:11 pm

        That was my favorite question as well.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 2:39 pm

      a great video

  8. J. R. Babcock (@JRBabcock)'s avatar J. R. Babcock (@JRBabcock) April 14, 2013 / 1:10 pm

    Not all Democrats believe children belong to the collective, but it’s only Democrats who do.

    MSNBC’s Melissa Harris-Perry on Saturday strongly reaffirmed the sentiment behind her recent promotional ad for the network in which she declared that children are part of the collective. Addressing the outcry on her show Saturday morning, Harris-Perry said it would be “too easy” to simply dismiss that some people are just “haters.” Watch the clip here.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 1:17 pm

      “too easy” to simply dismiss that some people are just “haters.”

      Au contraire, J.R., Liberal Democrats have turned describing their adversaries as haters, racists, bigots — you name it, into an art form.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 2:15 pm

        not all democrats are communists but many communists are democrats.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 2:16 pm

        Spook

        you name it, into an art form.

        saul alinsky 101

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 2:26 pm

        not all democrats are traitors, but all traitors are donkRATS…..

        Kerry in China to Seek Help in Korea Crisis (Obama again betrays allies on missile defense)
        The New York Times ^ | Sunday, April 14, 2013 | Michael R. Gordon

        Secretary of State John Kerry flew to China on Saturday and sought to elicit China’s help in dealing with an increasingly recalcitrant nuclear armed North Korea by saying that American missile defenses could be cut back if the North abandoned its nuclear program.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 2:33 pm

        President Obama and I were college classmate at Columbia University, class of ’83. I know all too well how mindlessly liberal the students and faculty of that institution can be, and Barack Obama is certainly no exception. My time at Columbia made it crystal clear: liberals always believe they are morally superior. While they publicly state that their mission is to save the world from prejudice, patriotism, racism, greed, and inequality, they are, in fact, hostile and resentful towards anyone who has achieved self-made success through American values. It is in this cesspool of intolerance that Obama and his Marxist cronies hatched a secret plan to destroy our country.

        http://www.humanevents.com/2013/04/14/obamas-plan-to-destroy-america-hatched-at-columbia-university-says-classmate/

  9. meursault1942's avatar meursault1942 April 14, 2013 / 2:49 pm

    What a relentlessly dishonest and foolish list. This is what you actually believe, Retired Spook? Just to highlight a few of the more egregious bits of ridiculousness:

    1. You simply have to be kidding. On this very blog, liberals are referred to as fascists, Nazis, America-haters, etc. on practically a daily basis, to say nothing of the pitiful “objectively pro-terrorist” talking point that was en vogue at the time you first compiled this list.

    7. This means what, exactly? Democrats should be ashamed for advocating equality? And you might want to note that Republicans are finally coming around as well. There are reams of examples of people dropping their opposition to same-sex marriag,e but it’s nigh impossible to find examples of people dropping their support and turning to opposition.

    10. Not all Republicans praise and admire (or, at the very least, apologize for) brutal fascist dictators like Augusto Pinochet or the apartheid leaders of South Africa, but the only people who do are Republicans.

    12. Name Democrats who advocate “turning over a substantial portion of our national security to the United Nations.” Can you?

    14. Oh dear, you’re still in the thrall of the supply-side myth? Not even conservative economists believe that anymore, which makes sense given the massive, repeated failures of supply-side economics. The only thing it brings is exploding deficits.

    17. “The most absurd question posed by Democrats with regard to the liberation of Afghanistan and Iraq is “what will we do if they vote for an Islamic theocracy”?” In the wake of Republican complaints about the Arab Spring, you might want to go ahead and strike this talking point from your list.

    20. You don’t remember the 2004 Bush campaign (and subsequent administration) at all, do you?

    21. Go ahead and name some names for this absurd charge, if you can.

    23. Not all Republicans believe poor people should not be allowed to vote, but it is only Republicans who believe this.

    25. This is just a complete and utter lie. Republicans absolutely believe that violence is an acceptable form of protest, from windows of Democratic offices being shot to bomb threats to actual bombings of Planned Parenthood clinics.

    31. Not all Republicans are cheaters, but election fraud by Republicans has become so widespread that it’s even inspired a book by a former Republican political operative: “How To Rig an Election”. When was the last time you heard reports of Democrats engaging in voter suppression?

    35. Again, have you actually read your own blog?

    44. Not all Republicans value ideology over results, but such a mindset has come to define the modern Republican Party.

    48. No, the opposition to Bush’s privatizations schemes was quite widespread. It’s why he (thankfully) never got anywhere with them.

    49. “Until a majority of Democrats understand this concept they will continue to lose elections.” You might want to strike that sentence, given how poorly Republicans have performed electorally of late.

    Bu I think my favorite part is your conclusion. After this massive litany of stark dishonesty, you close with a demand that Democrats accept this ludicrously false depiction of them: “If you are a Democrat, do you admit to supporting the beliefs, principles, policies and positions stated here? If not, you are out of step with the leaders of your party.”

    I hope you can do better than this, Retired Spook.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 3:04 pm

      Bu I think my favorite part is your conclusion. After this massive litany of stark dishonesty, you close with a demand that Democrats accept this ludicrously false depiction of them:

      REALLY?????

      The Long, Sad, Violent History of Democrats’
      Racial Hatred for Blacks

      Perry Drake
      May 2003

      It has always seemed unnatural and unwise to me whenever I hear someone who’s been slandered by a particularly egregious lie reply that they’re not going to dignify that accusation with a response.

      For it has always been crystal clear to me that whenever your honor, integrity and reputation are called into question that you should be quick, thorough and – when circumstances demand – quite loud in defense of them.

      Otherwise, people will assume that the accusation must carry some weight and the falsity levied against you just might end up sticking.

      That’s what has happened to the political party that I belong to – the Republicans. For decades the Party of Lincoln has been under almost constant assault for being “racist” and “openly hostile” to blacks.

      However, nothing could be further from the truth – but you would never know it by the party’s spineless, practically nonexistent defense of its record on race and civil rights.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 14, 2013 / 3:11 pm

        The Democrat Party’s Long and Shameful History of Bigotry and Racism

        A common attack upon conservatives and republicans by the ultra left is to engage in what has come to be known as “playing the race card” but is more accurately described as racial McCarthyism. Hardly a day goes by without a member of the far left wing falsely accusing conservatives of racism, bigotry, and a wide array of similar nasty things. They are not only dishonest, but they often border on the absurd, as in NAACP leader and hyper bigot Julian Bond’s recent implication to his organization that Bush administration officials supported confederate slavery. Amazingly, Bond’s statements went without condemnation from the radical Democrat party or others in his organization.

        Not surprisingly, in all the lies and accusations of racism by the radical left wing, the truth becomes distorted not only about the Republicans but also the Democrats who make these accusations themselves. For instance, you may or may not have heard Democrat Senator Robert Byrd’s outburst of racist bigoted slurs, more specifically the “n-word,” on national television in March of 2001. Amazingly, this incident of blatant racism on national television drew barely a peep from the NAACP, Jesse Jackson, Julian Bond, Mary Frances Berry, or any of the other ambulance chasers who purport themselves to be the leaders of the civil rights movement. In contrast, the main source of well deserved criticism for Byrd’s racist outburst came not from any of the so called leaders of the civil rights movement but from from Republican Majority Leader Dick Armey (source). The race hustlers Jackson, Mfume et al turned a blind eye towards this act of racism by one of their own party, at most issuing an unpublicized slap on the wrist, or, as was more often the case, making not a peep. But where the race hustlers turn a blind eye and spew their lies, it is up to conservatives to set the record straight with the truth.

        In response to the growing practice of racial McCarthyism by prominent left wing Democrats, it is necessary to expose the truth about the Democrat Party’s record on Civil Rights:

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 3:28 pm

      Meursault, what part about this was written 8-1/2 years ago did you not understand? It’s amazing to me how much still applies. And I’m no longer a registered Republican, as the GOP has let me down as well — well at least the leadership of the GOP.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster April 14, 2013 / 3:38 pm

      Meursalt comes out swinging, lol. I love it when liberals end their screeds by saying something like “I hope you can do better than this” as Meur did in this case. That’s always an indicator of self perceived superiority.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona April 14, 2013 / 4:07 pm

      Well, fascism and Nazism were/are leftist constructs–not much you can do about facts. “America HATERS” might be a little strong, but while all Democrats are not ashamed of America and blame her for the world’s ills, all who do are Leftists.

      No one should ever be “ashamed” of advocating equality of treatment, equality of opportunity. Confusing this with equality of outcome should be a source of embarrassment, if not outright shame.

      Name someone who praises brutal fascist dictators. For that matter, name a conservative who wears a Che Guevera T shirt or swoons over the sexiness of Fidel Castro.

      ” Name Democrats who advocate “turning over a substantial portion of our national security to the United Nations.”” I can’t come up with a name off the top of my head, but all you have to do is pay attention any time there is mention of U.N. law or rules regarding U.S. laws including gun control.

      Leftist political and economic policies, which are intertwined, have inevitably led to economic misery, while the free market concept has resulted in prosperity.

      Are you actually supporting and praising the “Arab Spring”? Really? You are pleased with the results? Hmmmmmm

      The claim that Republicans do not think poor people ought to be able to vote is, simply, a bald-faced lie.

      There were a couple of Dem office windows being broken, by rocks, and in at least two of these it was learned that the damage was done by Dems trying to create the illusion of Right-wing violence. The couple of times abortion mills have been targeted have been by apolitical loners who were instantly attacked by Republicans and their actions noted as completely unacceptable. Surely you are not still sucking down that silly KoolAid about violence against abortion mills being a component of the Republican Party, are you?

      Dem voter suppression efforts? Well, without any effort at all I can refer you to the NBP thugs threatening white voters at voting places, and the suggestion that Dems just “lose” GOP voter information which I posted yesterday. And since when does “suppression” become the only kind of voter fraud? I have a feeling that underlying this claim of GOP efforts to “suppress” voting is a knee-jerk response to efforts to make sure that only qualified people vote. And I don’t blame you, because this would be a real threat to Dems.

      What is it about voting to support an objective belief in how best to govern the nation (ideology) you find offensive? What is it about placing this commitment to a belief ahead of winning at any cost that makes you disdainful?

      Telling that you feel so strongly about efforts to remove welfare schemes from government control and coffers and allow people to participate in their own plans and decisions. What a good little Lefty you are.

      Clearly having the agendas and tactics and attitudes of the Left laid out so clearly ruffled your feathers. Thank you for coming back with such a litany of beloved Lefty canards and letting us know how completely they form what you probably think is a political compass but which is obviously nothing more than an emotional spasm.

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 6:48 pm

        “You’re an idiot and obviously incapable of providing the specific links to support your claims. The link you provided is to a home page and, as I’ve repeated time and time again on this blog, I’m not going to do your digging for you. You expect me to search for the quotes that you mined from some statistical analysis? Fat chance. What is so hard with backing up your claims to fact with specific links? Not so hard if your not lying or misinformed…”

        Tut tut thgere thomas, back to your old forms already? Lol.

        It took this idiot less than one minute to find the information. Maybe you should try and use that work ethic that earned you so many degrees.

        I wont hold my breath waiting if you dont mind.

        Classic Thomas there though. I did miss you. 🙂

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona April 14, 2013 / 8:37 pm

      “…actual bombings (sic) of Planned Parenthood clinics (sic)…”

      Yeah. One. A small bomb set off OUTSIDE a PP clinic in Wisconsin.

      Quite an outbreak of Republican violence, eh? (Not that the bomber was a Republican, or that it was motivated by politics.) I notice that the outrage at the “violence” is reserved for the very few isolated cases of attacks on people who, by the way, commit the most extreme violence, the taking of human lives, on a daily basis.

      No, I am not advocating meeting brutality with brutality. But I am sick to death of the pious whimpering of murderers, and those who support them, and those like your forker friends who congratulate females who have butchered their babies, when they are exposed to the smallest possible measure of violence in retaliation.

      True retaliation, in the form of an eye for an eye, would be poisoning followed by dismemberment or decapitation, not just a boom outside the building.

      But no, I do not advocate descending to the same level of savagery that is staked out by the baby-killers and their helpers and supporters. I just find it odd that the same people who kill without compunction, for money, day in and day out, are suddenly overcome with trepidation and panic and righteous indignation when they have to face anyone who weighs more than a few pounds, who is not completely helpless.

      I’m sure you are quite upset that one of your heroes is being prosecuted for murder. After all, the only victims were babies, and your own Dear Leader voted to make infanticide legal. What’s the big deal? It’s not as if anyone is threatening to saw through his spinal cord with dirty scissors or anything.

      And Spook was talking about political violence, about violent actions against political opponents, not battles between decent human beings and abortion defenders.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 12:56 am

        …and I’ve posted before about the rank hypocrisy of the “pro-life” crowd. Fact is, germane to this post, ONLY Democrats favor real-world solutions to minimizing abortions. It is the hypocritical religious right who add to the number of aborted fetuses in this world.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:47 am

        rustybrownshorts

        It is the hypocritical religious right who add to the number of aborted fetuses in this world.

        HUH?
        talk about strawmen and delusion,

        1. define the “religious right”,

        2. explain the accusation of hypocritical.

        3. PROOF of “adding” to the numbers of murdering our children as you leftist ghouls so love to do.

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 8:48 am

        “1. define the “religious right”, ”

        Can I take a shot at this?

        I would define the “religious right” as people like me who believe that every baby should have the right to life, even if that baby is conceived by rape or incest. People like me who believe that you should not even think about sex until you are in situation where you can afford and have the ability to raise the children that result.

        People like Thomas will never accept that they have any responsibility what so ever, in any area of life.They are never at fault for their own problems. It does not matter what it is, health,education, welfare, they will continue to demand that someone else do the work for them.

        I really don’t blame the likes of Thomas for this, it is human nature to be lazy.

        I blame those who reside in the halls of power that claim to be in opposition to this when they are not. Those who have the ability to put a stop to it but will not because it might affect their reelection chances.

        Damn them all to hell for cooperating with the devil, but hey they do have a (r) after their names, so that makes it ok.

        Right?

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona April 15, 2013 / 9:15 am

        Yeah, it is the people who want to stop killing babies who are responsible for killing babies.

        Just another peek into the freakshow of Liberal “thought”.

        Just what efforts to decrease the number of butchered babies are or have been opposed by Republicans? Or Conservatives, as the two are not necessarily the same?

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona April 15, 2013 / 9:21 am

        GMB, with all due respect, you have fallen into the trap of accepting a phrase invented by the Left.

        Many people are on the Right yet not religious, at least not in the same sense you are. Many people are as religious as you and still vote Dem.

        “Religious” and “Right” are two words linked only by the Leftist desire to marginalize and isolate people of faith and people on the Right, by inventing a phrase they can then toss around as a pejorative.

        There is absolutely nothing wrong or ominous about being religious. There is absolutely nothing wrong or ominous about believing the nation should be governed according to its Constitution. But the Left, reading the mentality of so many Americans quite well, believes that they can create the illusion of conservatism being the same as radical wild-eyed fanaticism—therefore, the concoction of the phrase “Religious Right”.

        It’s just more Leftist BS and more attempt at semantic infiltration—they just keep repeating something so often that even we start to use their terminology, instead of challenging it whenever it appears.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 2:10 pm

        “Just what efforts to decrease the number of butchered babies are or have been opposed by Republicans? Or Conservatives, as the two are not necessarily the same?”

        Glad you asked:

        Not all Republicans have opposed comprehensive sex/contraception education for our kids, but it’s almost exclusively Republicans who have. Lack of sex ed and contraceptives = more unwanted pregnancies = more abortions.

        Not all Republicans have opposed family planning and the distribution of contraceptives at home and abroad, but it’s almost exclusively Republicans who have (to devastating effects in the third world). Lack of such policies = increased disease and unwanted pregnancies = more abortions.

        Not all Republicans oppose legalized abortion, but it’s mainly Republicans who do. Since making abortion illegal increases the number of women maimed and killed while doing nothing to decrease the abortion rate, such policies = increased death and suffering.

        Republicans/religious right are hypocrites because they pretend to stand on the moral high ground with these issues while supporting policies that contradict their stated goals and increase dead fetuses and suffering. You want less abortions? Vote Democrat. Safe, legal and rare.

        BTW, “religious right” is a self-defining descriptive term. I can’t see why you guys are so exercised over it. I would not object to the term “secular left”, even if used pejoratively, because its descriptive and my skin is thicker than a butterfly’s wings.

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 2:34 pm

        “Since making abortion illegal increases the number of women maimed and killed while doing nothing to decrease the abortion rate, such policies = increased death and suffering.”

        Thomas, do have any proof of that or is it just your opinion?

        “BTW, “religious right” is a self-defining descriptive term. I can’t see why you guys are so exercised over it. I would not object to the term “secular left”, even if used pejoratively, because its descriptive and my skin is thicker than a butterfly’s wings.”

        Well, that now makes two things we have in common.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 3:08 pm

        GMB,

        I do have proof of that, here you go:

        And why do you call me “Thomas”?

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 3:58 pm

        Thomas.

        In regards to your link.

        “These numbers are not definitive and very susceptible to interpretation according to the agenda of the people who are organizing the data,”

        The who and guttmacher. The only thing missing is sanger’s stamp of approval.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 4:25 pm

        If you think these statistics are biased, do you have any concrete criticisms as to exactly HOW they are biased? You can’t just point a finger and cry “bias!”. Weak tea.

        And conversely, since you’re quite the skeptic, where is your data supporting the assumption that illegalizing abortion brings down the abortion rate and does not increase the incidence of injury and death to those seeking abortions?

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 4:52 pm

        Spook and ama,

        Regarding your lack of response to my list of “not all Republicans” …..chirp, chirp.

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 4:54 pm

        First lets pick apart guttmachers claim of over 5000 deaths per year from murdering an unborn child before roe vs wade..

        I’ll use 1960 as an example. The numbers are consistent from year to year if you care to look them up. For that year the number for all deaths related to pregnancy was recorded as 1,579 To reach your magic number of 5k you need 3400 plus deaths to be recorded. You would also have to believe that no other cause of death could exists other than murdering a child or a whole lot of death certificate falsification was going on.

        Source. Vital Statistics of the United States, Vol.
        II, Mortality, Part A. 1960-77

        Holes in your bucket?

        .

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 5:04 pm

        Just a couple of more bits of info for you Thomas since I know how much you hate to look stuff up on your own.

        In 1968, Vital Statistics reports 859 total pregnancy-related deaths; 133 of the 859 attributed to abortion.
        By 1972, the year before the Supreme Court legalized abortion-on-demand nationwide, there were 24 deaths from legal abortions and 39 from illegal abortions

        Medical science has advanced greatly from even 50 years ago. Advanced so far that the need to abort an unborn child to save the life of the mother is an event that rarely if ever occurs nowadays.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 5:36 pm

        GMB,

        Your garbled syntax and vague references are unconvincing to say the least. If you want to reference statistics, state your contention clearly and provide a DIRECT supportive LINK for your specific argument, as I have done. This is standard in adult, rational discourse. Really people, this isn’t that hard. I’ve said this before, but I simply won’t respond to paraphrasing from some unknown source presented as fact (who would?). You seem privy to the data that makes your case – please share it! I hold myself to the same standard.

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 5:43 pm

        I figured you might have the desire to “educate yourself”

        Wrong again!

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 6:01 pm

        “You want less abortions? Vote Democrat. Safe, legal and rare.” If that were not so sad that would funny.

        54,559,615 Abortions Since Roe vs. Wade Decision in 1973.

        We have murdered about one seventh of our current population and Thomas calls it rare.

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 6:59 pm

        Don’t you worry your ugly little head off there Thomas. My link would just lead you you to a bunch of cdc pdf documents. I have no confidence that you would be able to read them since it might take a click of the mouse.

        Have no fear though, they just contain official gov stats anyway. You know facts and figures , meaninless stuff like that.

        Gold brick indeed. 🙂

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 15, 2013 / 8:22 pm

        Regarding your lack of response to my list of “not all Republicans” …..chirp, chirp.

        That was a long and exhaustive list, Rusty. I’m in awe of your listing skills. Just be careful you don’t dislocate your shoulder patting yourself on the back.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 16, 2013 / 1:22 am

        Spook,

        My list was three. Yours was fifty. Fifty ridiculous caricatures. I dismantled your first. Care to tackle even one of my three? No. I think not. Best to pretend you never read them, and turn up the volume on Glenn Beck. Get comfortable.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 16, 2013 / 9:03 am

        My list was three. Yours was fifty. Fifty ridiculous caricatures. I dismantled your first. Care to tackle even one of my three?

        I wouldn’t even try, Rusty. I bow to your superior wisdom and skill. I was hoping to get someone with your command of language and logic to respond to this post, and you did not disappoint. You should start your own blog……………….Sorry, I thought I could do this with a straight face, but you are such a loony tunes caricature, I can’t stop laughing. What are you — 12? You “dismantled [my] first” — that’s rich, and, as Neocon so aptly points out, grossly inaccurate. Are there a few rednecks in the Tap Party movement who call Obama Hitler? Sure. Calling Bush Hitler was a cottage industry for 8 years, and not just by low-level footsoldiers, but by many movers and shakers in the Democrat Party, including U.S. Senators. I know you know the difference; that you can’t or won’t admit it speaks volumes about your intellectual honesty — or lack thereof. The comparisons of Bush to Hitler had no basis in fact other than nastiness and malice. If you’ve ever read the parallels between Hitler’s life and Obama’s, the comparisons to Hitler and Obama are dead-on creepy. In the end, though, history will be the judge, and, quite frankly, I hope I’m not around to see it.

      • Tim's avatar GMB April 16, 2013 / 11:22 am

        I have led you to the water but I have no power to make you drink it. I can recommend that you select any years mortality rates and compare the actual data to whatever junk you have in your head.

        You have proven once again that you are the laziest person ever to infest this blog.How do yo ever find the energy to type anything Thomas?

        Or should I call James? Or slccr or sz0102 or Sasan or RustyBrown2012.

        Please stop wearing those smelly socks. You are stinking the place up.

        Rule 406 my friend.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 16, 2013 / 1:45 pm

        Spook,

        Do you really not remember what you wrote? Let me remind you:

        ” Not all Democrats compare their political opponents to Hitler and refer to them publicly as fascists, Nazis, digital brown shirts, book burners, Satan, the real terrorists, worse than Sadam, etc., but it is ONLY Democrats who do this.”

        And

        “I have NEVER heard a Republican use any of these words to describe a Democrat.”

        …well you should get out more:

        http://firedoglake.com/2009/07/09/jim-demint-is-latest-republican-to-compare-obama-to-hitler/

        Yeah, your assertion dismantled about sums it up. Nobody claimed that Bush wasn’t compared to Hitler, therefore bringing it up is irrelevant. YOU claimed only Dems engage in such hyperbole, and I’ve just corrected you. Why don’t you man up and admit you we’re wrong?

        And are you not just a wee bit shamed at claiming ONLY the other side makes Hitler comparisons and then in the next breath say:

        “the comparisons to Hitler and Obama are dead-on creepy”

        You really lack any self-awareness at all, don’t you? Sad.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 16, 2013 / 1:54 pm

        Gmb,

        Your lack of a coherent point and lack of references are duly ignored. Also noted, you want me to do your homework while calling me lazy – stunning.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan April 14, 2013 / 9:23 pm

      At all events, I think that Spook was not – and is not – necessarily referring to some guy on a blog, but on serious leaders of the party. It is on the Senate floor that President Bush was accused of re-opening Stalin’s GULAG at Guantanamo Bay.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 15, 2013 / 8:28 am

        Hence the statement:

        These are from public comments by prominent Democrats just during the 2004 campaign.

        And, although bloggers have referred to Obama’s FEMA youth corps as brownshirts, I still have never heard any prominent Republicans refer to Obama or anyone associated with him with any of those derogatory names.

      • rustybrown's avatar rustybrown2012 April 15, 2013 / 2:20 pm

        I’m still wrappin’ my head around Spooks logic which identifies Glen Beck as a Democrat. Oh, man!

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 15, 2013 / 4:04 pm

        I’m still wrappin’ my head around Spooks logic which identifies Glen Beck as a Democrat. Oh, man!

        Careful you don’t sprain your neck.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 11:36 pm

        Spook
        his chicken neck? LOL

        love his ageist slam though, it doesnt take long for the trolls bad breath to give him away does it?

  10. Cluster's avatar Cluster April 14, 2013 / 3:31 pm

    from JR’s link:

    “This is about whether we as a society, expressing our collective will through our public institutions, including our government, have a right to impinge on individual freedoms in order to advance a common good. And that is exactly the fight that we have been having for a couple hundred years,” – Melissa Harris Perry

    Stalin could not have said that better himself. Note to Melissa, we have already had this fight, and the result was the Bill of Rights. Any further “fighting” is simply an effort to erode those already well established rights. Never an effort to enhance them.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 14, 2013 / 11:46 pm

      Any further “fighting” is simply an effort to erode those already well established rights. Never an effort to enhance them.

      Aaaaaaaamen!

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:48 am

        BINGO!!

  11. Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah April 15, 2013 / 4:26 pm

    Our Nation is Under Attack Once Again!

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 4:33 pm

      Patriots day

      Communist Network News already implying “patriot group” *****could****** be responsible…….

      maybe they will now ban large capacity bombs since more than one exploded……….more rights will be lost for “security”

      PS
      anyone know where Obammys buddies ayers and dohrn are?

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 4:51 pm

        Jer

        “Our Nation is Under Attack Once Again!”

        the real attack on our nation and it’s constitution began …….jan 2008.

      • Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah April 15, 2013 / 5:36 pm

        anyone know where Obammys buddies ayers and dohrn are?

        He’s the first one that came to my mind when I first saw this. I just walked in the door.

      • Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah April 15, 2013 / 5:39 pm

        the real attack on our nation and it’s constitution began …….jan 2008.

        True, that.

        This is what political correctness brings to our nation.

        It’s time that everyone collectively put an end to the communist scum that have infiltrated this country.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:40 pm

        Explosions in Boston = TRAGIC!

        Sandy Hook victim parents being exploited by the regime were close to explosion scene as government guests.. thankfully all OK!!

        casualties are relatively small compared to crowd size.
        seems bombs were rather small and could have been catastrophic if they were bigger……

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:43 pm

        This is what MARXIST political correctness brings to our nation.

        yuuuup

  12. Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah April 15, 2013 / 5:41 pm

    NOTE TO ALL NEWS AGENCIES: THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF TEA PARTY PATRIOT GROUPS. I REPEAT: THIS IS NOT THE FAULT OF TEA PARTY PATRIOT GROUPS.

    • Tim's avatar GMB April 15, 2013 / 5:45 pm

      Not one libtard believes you Jer. That killer had a Gadsden Flag under his jacket. He had too.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:46 pm

      Drudge

      NY POST: Suspect apprehended…
      Saudi national under guard at hospital…

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 5:49 pm

        diversion??

        meanwhile back at the wraunch!!

        DOW skids -266…

        GOLD PLUNGE…

        Investors Bail Amid Collapse…

        ‘PANIC EVERYWHERE’…

        Worst two-day loss since 1983…

  13. watsonthethird's avatar watsonthethird April 15, 2013 / 10:24 pm

    Spook, before I respond to your list, I want to respond to your comment of a few days ago on the ideology thread:

    Tiredoflibs: Watty the majority of Americans are against obamaCare, but I don’t see you or tommy-boy James calling for the greatest deliberative body to debate it repeal either.

    Crickets.

    I apologize for traveling the last five days and failing to pay attention to B4V while I was out and about. As to tiredoflibbs’ question, the latest polling I could find, as of November 13, 2012, shows that only 33% of Americans support repealing ObamaCare. That is a far cry from 91% of Americans who support universal background checks. So my response is that tired’s comparison is a poor one.

    As to your list, I have to admit that I didn’t get past the first item. Only Democrats compare their political opponents to Hitler? You have stated that you are an active Tea Party member, so you should know that that statement is not true.

    Heck, on tea party.org website right now there is this direct comparison, titled “Stop America’s Hitler”: http://www.teaparty.org/america-in-danger-stand-and-fight-19145/

    At a February Tea Party gathering, Elois Zeanah of the Alabama Federation of Republican Women gave a speech in which she compared the adoption of Common Core State Standards Initiative to the indoctrination of children in Nazi Germany, with President Obama teaching children and imposing an “anti-Christian, anti-capitalism, anti-America…pro-homosexuality, illegal immigration, unions, environmentalism, gun control, feminism and social justice” curriculum.” She said, “Remember the quote by Hitler, ‘Give me your children and in ten years I’ll change society’? The Obama administration intends to do just that.”

    In September of last year, the Ashville, North Carolina Tea Party published a piece, since taken down, that compared Obama to Hitler, with lines like ““Hitler took control of the banks….Obama took control of the banks. Hitler installed Socialized medicine….Obama’s Administration passed Socialized medicine.”

    There was the Tea Party billboard in 2010 by the North Iowa Tea Party that pictured Hitler, Obama and Lenin above the line, “RADICAL LEADERS PREY ON THE FEARFUL & NAIVE”.

    And then we have B4V. It’s easy to do a Google search for references to Hitler in the comments of B4V. You find ones like this, by neocon1: “the most unqualified, racist, hate mongering, marxist, usurper was put in twice……but then again in Germany they loved hitler back in the day. we all seem to forget how that worked out…….history repeats it’s self.”

    These are just a few examples.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook April 15, 2013 / 10:54 pm

      Watson,

      I compiled this list in 2004, before anyone even knew who Obama was. And yes, at that time the only ones referring to their political adversaries as ” fascists, Nazis, digital brown shirts, book burners, Satan, the real terrorists, worse than Sadam, etc.,” were Democrats. Those were actual quotes from prominent Democrats at the time. I would grant you that Conservatives have called Obama some of those names, but as I also said at the beginning of the post, “Amazingly, about 90% of it is still relevant after 8-1/2 years, proving that, in politics, some things never change.”

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 11:16 pm

        Spook

        I would grant you that Conservatives have called Obama some of those names

        we read HIS book, know his family, know his mentors, know his friends, and are watching in horror at what he is doing…….names? or accurate descriptions of the POS.
        I choose the latter.

      • watsonthethird's avatar watsonthethird April 16, 2013 / 12:00 am

        And now it is Tea Party members. Proving that in politics, calling your opponent Hitler transcends ideology.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:17 pm

        waspstooge

        BFD he is what he is, a domestic constitutional ENEMY!!
        call him a commie, nazi, hitler, satan….pick the name……but hey we learned how to play the game from the masters…klintoon, alinsky, marx, wright, fartacan, union thugs, SDS, NBPP, NOI, blog TROLLS and the DNC ……..capice?

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 11:13 pm

      waspstooge

      by neocon1: “the most unqualified, racist, hate mongering, *****marxist******, usurper was put in twice……

      but then again in Germany they loved hitler back in the day. we all seem to forget how that worked out…….history repeats it’s self.”

      actually HE said he was a marxist, I agreed with him.

      I merely pointed out that the similarities between Germans who were mesmerized by hitler that brought destruction to their country…much like many useful idiots who dwell in America leaching off OPM feel about al-Ubama today while his regime dismantles the US with 60’s radicals, terrorists, communists, traitors, union thugs and innercity mobs.

      • watsonthethird's avatar watsonthethird April 16, 2013 / 4:00 pm

        Clown (I see we’re back to name-calling here), you invoke Hitler and Obama in the same breath repeatedly. A simple Google search reveals that. You can rationalize it all you want, but you’re just as sad as the Democrats who do the same.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:10 pm

        waspstooge

        You LIE,
        I call al Ubama a muslim and a communist I stand by that.

        you need to back and take 2nd grade reading comprehension.
        If I thought he was a nazi I would gladly say it.

        With that said, many of his actions parallel the nazis as do the American people idolizing this piece of marxist rubbish.

      • watsonthethird's avatar watsonthethird April 16, 2013 / 5:07 pm

        Clown, I said you invoke Hitler and Obama in the same breath repeatedly. Which of course, you do, as the quote above demonstrates.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 11:21 pm

      waspstooge

      That is a far cry from 91% of Americans who support universal background checks.

      polls???? you want government by polls??

      lets see evidence that 91% of AMERICANS ACTUALLY were polled and agreed with that assessment……..I say BS

      would you accept the same terms for voting…….CRICKETS!!!

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 11:31 pm

        wstooge

        seems you missed this…….please explain what is wrong with it.

        Open your eyes and look at the past two years objectively:

        Killer drones primed to kill U.S. citizens;

        Jailing citizens without due process;

        Assassination of citizens endorsed by the Obama regime;

        Active seeking top military officials willing to fire on U.S. citizens;

        Stockpiling of billions of hollow point killer rounds by the alphabet agencies;

        Obama’s regime demanding the disarmament of America;

        Grabbing your guns without rhyme or reason;

        Destruction of the Constitution and the targeting of the Second Amendment.

        The American people have been generous, patient and giving to a fault and thus, have become prey to the Washington vultures as they ravage our liberties and pick our bones clean.

        To this the Tea Party says, HELL NO!

        I agree HELL NO!!

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 11:44 pm

      Barack Obama’s Total Dedication To Marxism – Occidental’s Dr. John Drew

      Barack Obamas Occidental Friend Dr John Drew – Obamas Total Dedication to Communism

      Listen to this interview with Dr. John Drew, a conservative professor of political science who was a Communist in his youth and founder of the Marxist Student Association at Occidental College:

      Interview by Jeff Kuhner – Dr. Drew describes Obama’s total dedication to Communist revolution in America, beginning with his youthful indoctrination in Hawaii by the well-known member of the Communist Party of America (CPUSA) Frank Marshall Davis, and continuing through his college years, as personally witnessed by Dr. Drew based on his close personal contact with Obama at Occidental College.

      Dr Drew has no doubt that Obama has always been a Communist and remains a fervent Communist today. According to Dr. Drew, Obama is totally committed to carrying out a revolution in America which will destroy the American system of rights and freedoms enshrined in the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence in order to bring about a “redistribution of wealth” and the forcible imposition of “social justice” as envisioned by Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, and Mao Tse-tung.

      Dr. Drew was studiously ignored during the bizarre infatuation of the media with Obama during his campaign – to the detriment of all. Now that Obama had had two years to impose his will on the U.S., we can see how spot on Dr. Drew was.

      Barack Obama’s mother, father, stepfather, and childhood mentor Frank Marshall Davis were all communists. Even Obama admits in his quasi-autobiography, “Dreams of My Father”, that he chose to hang out with Marxist professors at Occidental College. One of these was Dr. Drew in this very interview.

      • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 15, 2013 / 11:46 pm
  14. neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:17 am

    physician heal thy self…….

    What MoveOn.org wanted was for people to submit 30-second ads that were critical of President Bush, but what the liberal-leaning organization got was a controversy over one entry that compared Bush to Adolf Hitler (search ).

    The ad in question used a tape recording of the Nazi leader speaking while it showed images of Hitler and German military prowess during World War II. At the end of the ad, a photo of Bush raising his hand to take the oath of office is seen.

    “A nation warped by lies. Lies fuel fear. Fear fuels aggression. Invasion. Occupation. What were war crimes in 1945 is foreign policy in 2003,” the ad said.

    Republican groups and Jewish organizations expressed outrage over the ad, which has been removed from the MoveOn.org Web site. The Republican National Committee (search) called on all nine Democratic candidates to condemn the ads.

    RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie (search) called the ad, “the worst and most vile form of political hate speech.”

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,107426,00.html#ixzz2Qc1S7wV0

  15. neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:21 am

    amnesia troll??

    HuffPost Compares Bush’s Paintings to Hitler’s

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    Which isn’t to say that such comments always draw outrage. From January 20, 2001 to January 19, 2009—those would be the Bush years—the left was awash with celebrities comparing President George W. Bush to Hitler.

    Comedian and actress Janeane Garofalo was a constant critic of Bush, once referring to the Bush administration as the “43rd Reich.”

    Actor David Clennon, of the television series The Agency and Ghost Whisperer, said, “I’m not comparing Bush to Adolf Hitler—because George Bush, for one thing, is not as smart as Adolf Hitler. And secondly George Bush has much more power than Adolf Hitler ever had.”

    [See a photo gallery of Bush’s legacy.]

    Following the 2004 elections, singer Linda Ronstadt attacked not only Bush, but all newly-elected Republicans, saying, “Now we’ve got a new bunch of Hitlers.”

    Even universally beloved crooner Tony Bennett (full disclosure: I have tickets to see Bennett perform next week) has gotten into the act, blaming the United States for the attack on 9/11, telling Howard Stern last week, “But who are the terrorists? Are we the terrorists or are they the terrorists? … They flew the plane in, but we caused it.”

    Bennett is currently selling a lot more records than Williams—his Duets II album is the No. 1 selling album in the nation—but Bennett’s comments barely caused a ripple compared to Williams’s equally bone-headed words.

    Celebrity comparisons of Republicans and Hitler, however, are not merely limited to the occasional offhand hateful comment. Often these comparisons have been pre-planned multi-media attacks.

    [Check out our editorial cartoons on the Democratic Party.]

    During 2004’s Ozzfest tour, Black Sabbath’s performance of the song “War Pigs” included an image of President Bush with a clown nose, appearing with a who’s who of warmongers, including Hitler. While use of the images eventually stopped, an Ozzfest official at the time said that the images were not removed due to complaints, but because they “steered attention away from Black Sabbath’s performance.”

    During the 2008 elections, Madonna used the appropriately-titled song “Get Stupid” to display images of Sen. John McCain alongside Hitler and Zimbabwean dictator Robert Mugabe, while showing Obama alongside Mahatma Gandhi and John Lennon. And, far from receiving the same fate as Hank Williams, Jr., Madonna appears to be a shoo-in to perform at this season’s Super Bowl.

    Words and actions have consequences, Hank Williams, Jr., rightfully learned this week. Well, sometimes they have consequences.

    “Talk about bad taste!” a theatergoer proclaims, while storming out of the fictitious “Springtime for Hitler” in Mel Brooks’s The Producers; which serves as a good reminder: If any celebrity is going to revel in their own bad taste involving Hitler—let it be Mel Brooks. He’s the only one who can get away with it.

  16. neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:23 am

    NEXT??

  17. neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:25 am

    rustybrownshorts

    speaking of meds brownie, a subject you finally know something about.

  18. neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:33 am

    Jer

    For the Son of Man is about to come in the glory of his Father with his angels, and then HE WILL REWARD EACH ONE ACCORDING TO HIS DEEDS. (Matthew 16:27)

    all in due time Brother, as it is written, the century’s first anti Christ is here.

  19. neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:37 am

    Jordanian Muslim group: ‘Happy to see the horror in America’…

    libs = chirp chirp

  20. neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 16, 2013 / 4:59 am

    Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah Celebrate Boston Terror Attack

    Chris Matthews: ‘Normally’ Domestic Terrorists ‘Tend to Be on the Far Right’

    Sharpton’s Radio Producer Tweets Speculation That ‘Anti-Gov’ Group Behind Boston Marathon Bombings………..(.REALLY al??
    hmmmmmm)

    CNN’s Nick Valencia is reporting that Boston police are on the lookout for a “darker skinned or ****black male”****

  21. Majordomo Pain's avatar Majordomo Pain April 17, 2013 / 11:08 am

    “If you are a Democrat, do you admit to supporting the beliefs, principles, policies and positions stated here? If not, you are out of step with the leaders of your party. If you do, how do you defend your position without ignoring the facts and the truth? You ultimately risk being tied by interests you cannot or will not admit to arguments you cannot defend.”

    The next to last statement there is fallacious because it is the “truth” that you choose to believe vice the reality of the New Age.

  22. ricorun's avatar ricorun April 17, 2013 / 11:24 pm

    I realize I’m coming late to the party, but the thing that immediately struck me about Spook’s post is that anyone could offer up any number of bullet points emphasizing the worst case scenario relative to one’s own beliefs, thereby implying support for one’s own beliefs, as if it were an either/or, black/white choice. I don’t have the time to rephrase every one of Spook’s bullet points to emphasize the opposite, but I’m sure I could. Anyway, let me offer the first few as examples…

    1. Not all Republicans compare their political opponents to Stalin and refer to them publicly as socialists, the real terrorists, worse than Sadam, etc., but it is only Republicans who do this.

    2. Not all Republicans condemn contraception or abortion under any circumstances, but virtually all of those who don’t are Democrats.

    3. Not all Republicans advocate deregulation of all environmental restrictions, but nearly all those who do are Republicans.

    4. Not all Republicans are in favor of allowing their neighbors to do whatever they want to, no matter what the impact on their own property, but the vast majority of those who oppose any restrictions are Republicans.

    5. Not all Republicans oppose public schools, but the majority of those who do are Republicans.

    Again, I could go on,. but you get the gist. Attempting to frame your opponent in the worst possible light is a common debating ploy. It is because it’s effective. But when you are able to contemplate both sides, maybe it becomes a little less so. And maybe it becomes a little more obvious that compromise is not only possible but essential.

    • neocon01's avatar neocon01 April 18, 2013 / 4:36 pm

      reekO

      late and this is not mehiko

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