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• 1. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 20th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

  Mark: This is just red meat for the shaygitzim, si o no?

  You don’t really believe that Barack Obama is a Marxist-Leninist or Stalinist, do you?

  You can fool all the lames here, you can’t fool me because I’m Ashkenaz like you are. but Boychik to boychik, it’s a good laugh, right?

  Gee whiz, Mark, it’s the Republicans in bed with China on this dollar peg, not the Democrats. Where’s the communist emblem under Bush?

• 2. Pirate's Cove&hellip  |  June 20th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

  Obama’s Newest Presidential Seal

  Matt at Blogs For Victory wanted some photoshops, but, why bother when I have the real thing?

  Man, that really is a joke that is just not going to end anytime soon!

• 3. Obama’s Newest Pres&hellip  |  June 20th, 2008 at 8:18 pm

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• 4. Mark Noonan  |  June 20th, 2008 at 8:50 pm

  Vicodin,

  Well, its actually Matt who put it up - and it is a great play on Obama’s amazingly arrogant seal that he developed to make himself McPresident five months before the vote. This is the “Audacity of a Dope”, ’cause it will go down difficult for the American people to see this empty suit preening himself as if he’s already won.

  As for the hammer and sickle - its long been my contention that the so-called liberals of modern America are just a bunch of junior-league Leninists bearing no relation to what liberalism actually stood for once upon a time. Boiled down, Obama and those like him want to remake the world as if they are smarter than everyone else and if anyone tries to stop them then its ok to use whatever tactics come to hand - no matter how dishonorable - because, like Lenin, they believe that the revolutionary elite must not be held to common standards of decency and certainly must not be held back by the hidebound prejudices of those who oppose them…

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• 6. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 20th, 2008 at 10:48 pm

  Mark: (Sorry, I mean Matt, obviously!):

  I hear where you’re coming from, but what you are describing is a cultural not political clash. You see Barack Obama as a power-hungry aristocrat. I can’t argue that point. He is. John McCain is as well. And George Bush. And John Kerry. And Al Gore.

  You’re not going to get a candidate for President who isn’t a power hungry aristocrat, to be sure. I like Obama quite a bit but I don’t agree with him on everything. I’m definitely to his right on taxes and finance but he’s no socialist. I’m far to his his left on social policy. But I like his ideas overall better than I like McCain’s. And I identify with him more than I do with McCain. That’s my opinion.

  It doesn’t matter because I can’t vote.

• 7. The New Conservative  |  June 20th, 2008 at 11:19 pm

  Obama is pretending to be President now because he knows that McCain is going to embarrass him come November.
  http://thenewconservatives.blogspot.com/

• 8. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 2:28 am

  New Conservative: If you believe that there’s a perfectly fine marrket-based way to express that opinion. You can get $1.80/1 with McCain in either the cash or futures markets anywhere in the world. If you think that McCain is the true favorite in the election, and you’re getting PAID $1.80 to take that position, it’s free-money to you, more or less.

  I think that Obama is the better candidate and the more likely winner, but I don’t think the market’s out of line necessarily. Republicans are much better at presidential campaigns that Democrats are but this time the Democratic nominee’s campaign manager is a pretty sharp guy. David Axelrod is much, much better at all aspects of this than were Brazile and Shrum.

  McCain has an adoring press and all the war-hero malarkey. Obama has a newness factor. Who knows? I think Obama has an outside chance of really ass-fucking McCain in this is everything breaks his way in the swing states and some of the South (NC, SC, GA) and Northern Midwest. Best case for Obama 390-145.

  I don’t see any scenario in which McCain ass-fucks Obama because Obama has the blue states locked up. Best case for McCain maybe 330-205.

  Skin color could be a negative for Obama in general election. Physical disfigurements could be a negative for McCain. Parician manner could hurt Obama. Temper could hurt McCain.

  Who knows?

• 9. William Teach  |  June 21st, 2008 at 7:47 am

  I know what else could be a negative for Obama in November: nationalistic ideas for America (such as national health care), high taxes, an energy plan that increases gas and home energy prices, plans that will cause companies to move their headquarters out of the country, tepid and concilitory national security plans, and, well, that is about it. We’ve covered 10% of his campaign. The rest is changiness and hopiness, which is Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers, his wife, elitism, and a failure to discuss anything he doesn’t want to talk about as a distraction.

• 10. William Teach  |  June 21st, 2008 at 8:42 am

  BTW, here’s another Obama seal creation of mine: http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y164/wteach/defeatocrats/obama_seal_Care_bear_Iran.jpg

• 11. Blogs For Victory »&hellip  |  June 21st, 2008 at 9:06 am

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• 12. The World According To Ca&hellip  |  June 21st, 2008 at 9:31 am

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• 13. Cavalor Epthith, Esquire, D.S.V.J.  |  June 21st, 2008 at 9:42 am

  1. Vicodin-N-Cocoa | June 20th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

  You nailed it! look how they flock to mock this thing while Obama sprints out to an early lead that i doubt he will relenquish for the entire race.

• 14. Matt Margolis  |  June 21st, 2008 at 10:09 am

  If McCain had done the same thing Barack Obama has, they’d be criticizing him endless, demanding he stop using it, and the lefty-bloggers would be posting photoshops of their own.

• 15. William Teach  |  June 21st, 2008 at 10:26 am

  Horse riding Cavalor ;), yes, we mock. But, is it our fault that the Obamessiah makes it so damned easy?

  I know some of mine are a little mean, but, hey, we can’t all be as nice as Ted Rall and Pat Oliphant and their racist cartoons of Condi.

• 16. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 10:41 am

  William Teach: You guys are really grasping at straws if you’re dragging out all this old bullshit about communism and Marxist-Leninism. If you don’t want low-cost health care, that’s not my problem. Where I live, I can go to a branch of Johns Hopkins University Hospital and pay $1 for my medical care. Taxes: Corporate 10% with no 2x taxation on dividends at the personal level. Personal ~5%. Capital Gains: 1%.

  Impossible you ask? Hardly. Lots of room in the budget when a country is agnostic on the “war on terror” and maintains no standing army and has demilitarized police force and National Guard which is used for domestic emergencies.

  I’m offering my viewpoints on politics here because it’s a lively debate. You have every right to prefer a permanent war and national security state to one which offers you low taxes and national health. All a question of taste, really. I surely don’t begrudge you your preferences.

• 17. Blogs For John McCainR&hellip  |  June 21st, 2008 at 11:36 am

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• 18. Marie  |  June 21st, 2008 at 11:40 am

  I can’t remember any election where I have ever seen a candidate make the presidential seal into their own personal logo. I was actually a bit surprised when I first saw it that anyone would actually do that. I guess we will see what people’s reactions are. One thing I can say is that Obama is going to do things in a very different way. I find him a bit frightening…

• 19. William Teach  |  June 21st, 2008 at 11:40 am

  If you think that taxes will go down under a President Obama, you are sadly deluded. Democrats have been pushing for tax hikes since the early part of the 20th century, and it has only gotten worse.

  As far as national health care, my copy of the Constitution doesn’t seem to give the federal government that power. However, it does require the federal government to protect our national security.

  Funny how y’all on the left say were are basically living in a police state, all our freedoms are being taken away, yet, are free to post nasty things about the government, and President Bush in particular.

  But, hey, yeah, let’s get rid of that army, which protect the freedom to denigrate the USA and the government. Let’s get rid of those evil police officers who protect you, or at the least, take away their guns, so they can yell “Stop! Or I’ll say stop again!” when someone is stabbing you again and again.

  Your viewpoints are fine, they are yours. You’re entitled to them. But, don’t get to thinking that you are immune to being responded to, like Obama thinks his ideas and character are.

  However, I like you ideas on taxation, though, nationally, I think that is a bit too low to run the fed government. Hate to say it, as a Conservative, but, probably around 12-16% corporate and personal taxes would be around right. That is about what they were looking to do back in 80’s when they redid the whole tax code.

  Personally, I do not think Obama is a Marxist. More like a fascist.

• 20. FmrMarine  |  June 21st, 2008 at 11:46 am

  vicoden, pantywaist drughead from HELLL’s newspaper
  >>>It doesn’t matter because I can’t vote.>>>

  THEN STFU!

  NOBODY cares what YOU think

  Earbama is a marxist/racist period.
  AND
  I can vote.

• 21. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 11:59 am

  FmrMarine: Drug-head? Absolutely. Panty-waist? Depends on how you define it. If you mean my social views are what you would call “liberal,” then yes, I agree.

  If you mean I won’t defend myself in a physical fight, then, no, I’m not a panty-waist.

  But I don’t like violence and aggression. I’ve felt shitty in times I’ve hurt someone and WORSE (!) in times I’ve gotten the tar kicked out of me. But I’m 46 now and I left that bullshit way behind me. As adults, when violence enters the picture it always ends in tears for everybody. Somebody going to the hospital and somebody going to jail. If not prison. I don’t want any part of that.

  I can’t vote, but I can contribute money. I don’t know if anyone cares or doesn’t care what I think That’s for them to decide. This is, however, a free and open forum for discussion and you may respond to me however you see fit. Should the proprietors of the blog see fit to bar me, all they need do is ask.

• 22. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 12:12 pm

  William Teach: No, I don’t think taxes will go down under Obama. I think they will probably go up. I don’t think US taxes are too low. I think they’re too high. I think the IRS is an absurdly wasteful bureaucracy and I found a lot to like in FAIRTAX and Ron Paul’s tax plan. So, I guess I agree with the levels you set forth. I’d get rid of AMT, double-dividend taxation and foreign-source tax, but I think FAIRTAX and Paul cover all that, too.

  I am opposed to the wars so I would like to see some budget-cutting in that area. I also think that the Department Of Homeland Security is another wasteful bureaucracy and I’d like to see that go along with the IRS. I’m more interested in monetary policy, however, and I think the USD is in terrible shape and would for the sake of the USA, I’d like to see interest rates go up.

  I’m not a resident, though, so none of this affects me directly. I don’t understand why you shouldn’t be able to have the same high-quality single-payer health care that I do. If you don’t want it individually, that’s up to you. If you as a society don’t want it, that’s also up to you.

  I don’t preach at anyone or tell anyone what to think or how to live. I’m offering OPINIONS. That’s it.

• 23. Carl  |  June 21st, 2008 at 12:59 pm

  Anyone who thinks that a U.S. Government controlled healthcare system is a good idea has either completely forgotten how Medicare was bankrupted by the Government, for example. Also how well did FEMA handle Hurricane Katrina aftermath? Oh, and how screwed up is welfare? No, bigger government in regards to healthcare is a very bad idea.

  Also, those who deny Obama’s clear socialistic bent are living in a fantasy world.

• 24. William Teach  |  June 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pm

  Can’t disagree with anything you wrote except the health care thing. I just think it is the responsibility of government to provide health care to the citizens in such a manner. Why should the money I earn go to paying for someone else, when it is not a Constitutionally embedded right?

  Well, also, military. I do not agree with budget cuts, since that is essentially one of the primary purposes of the federal government, per the Constitution. Sure, we do not want war. Most people do not. But, it is a big and dangerous world out there, and the military provides the protections that allow us to have a constitution and a country.

• 25. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 1:21 pm

  I finally get what’s going on here. It’s not socialism you don’t like, it’s capitalism. What’s great about capitalism is that for it to work properly there needs to be some transparent rules but more than that, FREEDOM OF CHOICE and FREEDOM OF INFORMATION.

  An argument over the rules is fine. Some of you seem to have an idea that I am a socialist but I’m probably more anti-tax than you are. I KNOW I’m more free-market than you are.

  Personal freedom is essential. Why should the government have the right to record every phone call I make (this is hypothetical for me because I live in a country with very strict wire-tapping rules)? How can I be a rational actor in any free market if I have no privacy and if my actions in a free market if I want to — say — swap USD for Lebanese Pounds and do it through a BVI bank, why should that trigger instant investigation?

  But it does and that creates distorted markets and failed markets which is the antithesis of capitalism.

  You have a choice here and I don’t mean McCain or Obama. Your choice is between a National Security State will a distorted, failed capitalist system. Or a fully free society with fully functional markets, warts and all?

• 26. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 1:27 pm

  William Teach: I hear exactly where you’re coming from and I can’t absolutely say with certainty that you’re wrong, although I have a different point of view.

  Look how easy it is for a “liberal” and a “conservative” to come to points of agreement and agreements to disagree. That’s what democracy is all about. It is not about a “permanent majority” of either party.

  I think you present your points of view rationally and sensibly. I actually enjoy coming to some kind of common ground with people who self-identify as something “different” from me.

  So, even though I don’t have a stake in the US tax argument, I’m always going to share your point of view and push for lower taxes up there.

• 27. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 1:30 pm

  William Teach: fyi, the remark above my response to you was not intended to include you. I think we are on the same page with regared to economics and finance.

• 28. Timothy Horrigan  |  June 21st, 2008 at 1:54 pm

  It’s kinda funny how commie-bashing still works even though there are only three Communist countries left— especially since the right wingers point out that Communism has totally failed.

  One of them is China, the largest nation on the planet. Even though it is a failed society, it has the world’s fastest growing economy and is the world’s leading manufacturer of low-priced consumer goods. Even after Marxism has totally failed, China is about to host the 2008 Olympics and has built some of the most advances sporting facilities anywhere in the world.

  The other is the tiny nation of Cuba, which even though it too is a failed society, has held off the world’s greatest superpower (the USA) for half a century while also having one of the world’s longest average life expectancies. In one small but very visible area, Cuba (even though like I said it is a failed society) is a superpower: it produces more professional athletes per capita than any nation on earth. And even though Marxism has totally failed, Cuba’s economy is growing (though not at the rate of China’s.)

  The achievements of these countries are remarkable… especially considering that their people made those achievements while their societies were failing.

  The third is North Korea… which arguably is a failure, even if its military has held the USA off for an even longer tile than Cuba’s. So I guess it is North Korea, not China or Cuba. which is the “typical” Communist society.

• 29. William Teach  |  June 21st, 2008 at 3:56 pm

  Obama is not a communist. Not even a real socialist, per the political theory definition. If you want to get technical, he leans towards a nationalistic and totalitarian system where the federals have control over everything, the State is the religion, and the government knows better how you should live your life.

  Now, refresh my memory: what political system is that? Something that begins with an “f,” just not coming to me at the moment.

• 30. Vicodin-N-Cocoa  |  June 21st, 2008 at 4:20 pm

  William Teach: How does Obama lean to a nationalistic and totalitarian system? In which ways has he proposed that government knows better than you how to run your life?

  It’s my opinion that the Bush adminsitration has been more intrustive into the private lives of American citizens than Clinton, Bush Sr, Reagan, Carter, Ford, Nixon or any other president really. Bush created that massive DHS bureaucracy and did nothing to streamline the IRS nor get rid of any of it’s retrogressive policies like the AMT. He pushed for and got with Democratic help sadly the PATRIOT ACTS, THE MILITARY COMMISSIONS ACT, and the new FISA. He began a test program to instruct municiipal firefighters to note any books, flyers, materials, t-shirts, CDs or what have you in the homes they save which might “express dissatisfaction with the USA so as to allow for further inquiry.”

  He, not Clinton, Sr, Reagan, Carter…, made US banks into unpaid agents of state security instead of their original mandate to respect the privacy of their depositors, investors and clients.

  The only argument you could make that Obama is a totalitarian then is that he MIGHT not change any of that back to how it was before.

  Fascism also has a specific definition that doesn’t fit Obama. It’s a totalitarian systems in which power is shared among the Executive, the Church and the largest corporations.

  It’s shame we disagree on the motives of the politicians because we seem to agree on freedom as a bed-rock principle.

• 31. Musing Minds » Blog&hellip  |  June 21st, 2008 at 5:57 pm

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• 33. Smokedsalmon  |  June 23rd, 2008 at 8:52 am

  Obamas Lack Of Historical Perspective IE Iran
  In October 2005 Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a conference in Tehran, said he that “Israel must be wiped off of the map.” Speaking to a large gathering of students on an October 26 program titled, “The World Without Zionism,” Mr. Ahmadinejad called on Palestinians to take control of the land, saying that “The establishment of a Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world.” On December 11, 2006 the “International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust” opened and was called for by and held at the behest of Ahmadinejad, and it was basically a Holocaust denial conference.

  Despite this on July 2007 Barack Hussein Obama said that he would be willing to meet with the Iranian President (as well as various other dictators), anywhere, anytime with no preconditions.

  Ahmadinejad declared on Monday June 9, 2008 that Israel “has reached its final phase and will soon be wiped out from the geographic scene.” He has also indicated he looks forward to being able to work with a President like Obama.

  Understandably Mr. Obamas statements have confused Mr. Ahmadinejad and that is exactly the problem with Obama. You are on the world stage now, even though you are not the President and your lack of foresight is frightening given the allies you upset and the enemies you encourage.

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