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Blogs For Victory 
Well, let me be the first! We all know that blogs4victory loves to point out voter fraud:
“A political aide to former [Republican] Maryland Gov. Robert Ehrlich was convicted Tuesday of conspiring to use Election Day robocalls in what prosecutors cast as an effort to suppress black voter turnout during the 2010 gubernatorial election. Paul Schurick was found guilty of all four counts he faced, including conspiracy to influence or attempt to influence a voter’s decision whether to go to the polls through the use of fraud and conspiracy to publish campaign material without an authority line.”
Of course this isn’t the first time good ole’ Bob Ehrlich has stooped to such tactics. Maybe this will make it into Matt’s next book. What do you think?
“2006 law that made it illegal to use deceptive messaging to influence a voter’s decision to go to the polls. ”
aye, guilty as charged….but the whole truth about it is…obama was just as guilty about his qualifications…and they look the other way…
strange how those democrat states do business…more hypocritical than anything on this planet@@!
deceptive messing? say it aint so
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrkhywYX15k
“They”? Who looked the other way? That Obama… he’s a know-nothing numskull, unable to talk without a teleprompter, and yet he managed to perpetrated the greatest fraud in US election history. Yeah, that’s it. I can see why you’re still bitter.
NICE TRY STOOGE…
you just dont get it…thats all you have proven…
“NICE TRY STOOGE…
you just dont get it…thats all you have proven…”
Yes, you’re right. We don’t get your blatantly contradictory rhetoric.
wattle, your spin is hysterically funny. You are saying that the fraud perpetrated upon the American public was executed by OBAMA ?
Too too funny. Obama can barely speak without someone to write his words and put them up on a screen where he can read them. OBAMA didn’t knock his opposition off the ballot in Illinois when it became clear the only way he could win was to run unopposed. OBAMA didn’t get to the judge in the Ryan divorce case and dig out the mildly salacious “sealed testimony” used against Ryan in the U.S. Senate bid.
Obama is a puppet, a creature created, backed up, and led by a powerful political machine. Obama as a man has been a foolish impotent failure, holding a token job here and another there, posturing in ways designed to set him up as the front man for Chicago and Far Left political experts who could, and did, pave the way for him to enter the White House.
No one, and I do mean NO ONE, has ever thought of Barry as being even remotely competent enough to “perpetrate” anything. His blundering and blatant stupidity whenever he goes off-script have made that clear.
gee wally, what is so hard for you to understand?
Why do I have to comment?
The man did something stupid and unlawful and was brought to trial and found guilty. What do you want me to say? You finally have your conviction. Now you need several more to equal those of the Democrats.
But still, anyone who doesn’t know when election day is and is so easily swayed away from voting, with such lame excuses as “we have enough, we don’t need your support” really should not be voting anyway, no matter what his or her race is. What were you saying about uniformed individuals? I am sure that those who watched FOX news knew when election day was.
Nothing would stop me from voting regardless of election returns, polls, the weather, nothing.
There really was no reason for me to comment. Since he was found guilty, then there is nothing to say. I expect anyone who commits voter fraud should face the same results. For some reason, Democrats don’t want to stop it in any way shape or form. No one will be discriminated against if all voters follow the same rules and have the same opportunity.
What you drones say against that are nothing but dumbed down talking points that only you useful idiots can regurgitate.
wally’s lies continue: “Especially considering that this obliterated your talking points and proved me right and you wrong for the umpteenth time.”
Uh, wally I asked for proof, evidence, convictions, indictments, etc. to prove your point several times. YOU NEVER DID! You gave the lame excuse that it was deleted. I asked for it again. Again, you respond with nothing. It was simple to post the ongoing trial, but for some reason you just could not bring yourself to post it OR, you had no clue what was going on.
I never denied it. I stated that accusations are easy to make, just back up the accusations with proof. We always hear about these silly accusations from the left and NOTHING COMES out of them. This time something did WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE. But again, you’d rather post vitriol and insult and very little fact.
Why not post what I ask for to begin with. It will save a lot of time and bandwidth and then instead of your pitiful posts getting deleted your substantive posts will stay up.
But for some reason, you’d rather do things the hard way. Again, you need several dozen more of these to equal those of the Democrats. If Democrats would want an educated populace and legal voting nothing like this would have happened.
So we have a guy who made robocalls with misinformation who gets convicted, but Black Panthers who threaten violence to intimidate voters get to walk scott free by the actions of the obAMATEUR administration. Interesting………….
more lies from wally: ““Uh, wally I asked for proof, evidence, convictions, indictments, etc. to prove your point several times. ”
I gave it; you deleted it (as you so typically do).”
Your “I did my homework but the dog ate it” excuse won’t work here.
You had many many chances to post it and you decided to post your usual BS. Now you are whining because you have been made the liar you are.
“A GOPer convicted of doing exactly what I said the GOP was doing”
Wow, wally, A SINGLE GOPer conviction convicts the entire party. I know you are slow witted but that is just plain moronic.
So using your logic then, the entire Democrat party is guilty of voter fraud and voter registration fraud.
Again, I never denied it, just asked for proof that you never posted. If you are going to lie at lie about something that is not so obvious.
Wow, I have reduced wally to lying again. Let’s see…..
I said, “Wow, wally, A SINGLE GOPer conviction convicts the entire party.”
Then he lies: “No, he’s just the latest one.”
What he actually said: “A GOPer convicted of doing exactly what I said THE GOP WAS DOING.” (emphasis mine).
As I said, he convicts the whole party for the actions of one conviction.
Then he lies again claims I condemned the whole party: “And I would note that you convicted all of “the left” based on indictments.”
What I actually said: “So using your logic then, the entire Democrat party is guilty of voter fraud and voter registration fraud.”
Wally has ZERO credibility. In his desperation to save his dainty ego he has once again been reduced to the lying mindless drone that we all knew he was. All because he refused to post proof when asked. He just prefers to play these circular mind games and not engage in debate.
Pathetic wally. That new alias is looking better and better isn’t it?
Here is an email address you can use tiredkickedmya$$@hotmail.com
Give it up wally/bodie/monty/jeffy/etc/etc/etc/etc…. if you wrote down everything you knew on paper, rolled it up into a ball, shoved it up a gnat’s a$$, then that paper ball would rattle around like a BB in a boxcar.
Wally you have shown evidence of a single conviction and not evidence of “a pattern” for the GOP.
We have shown a pattern for the left.
Keep following the Goebbels rule there Wally, ” you repeat a lie long enough it becomes the truth.”
Wow, Wally is up to two convictions! Far short, of the dozens of recent criminal antics by the left to stuff the ballot box and absentee ballots.
nice try Wally but you come up short. Again. I know it is hard for you ” BB in a boxcar” mentality types to overlook illegal activities of your own party. again I never denied anything. I asked for proof and you refused until recently – the dog ate it excuses you give don’t work anywhere except in Wally’s wold of make believe.
Again, wally, you need to learn the definition of “widespread” and “pattern”.
You have shown neither, while I and others have shown you the “dozens” of convictions in most recent elections.
Again, you just accept evidence you want and ignore the evidence that makes you the useful idiot you are.
Much of your embarrassment could have been avoided had you first provided the evidence I asked for. Instead, you wanted to dodge, deflect and post your usual vitriol. Only, after thoroughly stomping you, you relented and gave two small instances and tried to pass them off as “widespread” and “pattern”.
You came up far, far short. But, your dainty ego can’t handle your shortcomings. It is really pathetic that you are in such denial, you can’t see those shortcomings that are plain as the nose on your face.
“Not that I expect you to keep up this honesty, of course.”
Says the useful idiot troll, who has been caught in several lies. The “honesty” you believe depends upon the time of day and the phase of the moon.
For you it is always changing – changing to protect your dainty ego that can’t handle anything outside Wally’s World of Make Believe.
Wally has created a new alias, comically known as “TheTruth”!
Too bad, this alias fails immediately with the same old lies and gotcha mental poop flinging for which wally is so (in)famous.
Comedy at its best!
~OUR LAST PRESIDENT ON CHRISTMAS~
THE WHITE HOUSE –
Office of the Press Secretary
For Immediate Release December 23, 2008
Christmas 2008
“‘I bring you good news of great joy that will be for all the people. Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is Christ the Lord. This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.'”
Luke 2:10-12
“Each year, Christmas brings together families, friends, and communities to rejoice in the birth of Jesus Christ and celebrate the wonderful gifts God has bestowed upon us. During this season, we remember Jesus’ birth from the Virgin Mary, His justice and mercy that changed the world, and His ultimate sacrifice for all people. Though Jesus was born humbly in a manger, He was destined to be the Savior of the world. The light He brought into the world continues to break through darkness and change people’s lives two thousand years later.
“This holiday season, as you rejoice in the good news of Jesus’ love, forgiveness, acceptance, and peace, I encourage you to show grace to those less fortunate, just as God showed it to us. By serving those in need and through other acts of love and compassion, we can honor God’s goodness and affirm the immeasurable value God places on the sanctity of life. We remember the members of our Armed Forces serving to protect our country and secure God’s gift of freedom for others around the globe. All Americans are indebted to these men and women and their families for their sacrifice, devotion to duty, and patriotism.
“Laura and I send our best wishes for a very Merry Christmas. May you be surrounded by loved ones and blessed by the Author of Life during this joyous holiday and throughout the New Year.”
GEORGE W. BUSH
We should stop horse slaughter in Canada…
Let’s go Newt!!!
cO
where is your LOUD MOUTH on this??
Liberals and there mindless drones just hate it when we accuse the media of being biased. There is no way they can defend it so they just deny, scoff and laugh at those who make the claim with no real evidence to prove their argument.
Here are headlines from 2004 and today about the same time before the election:
2004
The President’s Jobless Recovery
Frustrated Job Seekers Cause Jobless Rate To Drop
Economy Adds Few New Jobs
Low Jobless Rate Reflects Lost Hope
US Jobless Rate Drops But For Wrong Reasons
Now
Unemployment Rate Drops To 8.6% Raising Hopes
Jobless Rate Drop Could Boost Obama
Obama Gets Economic Indicator He Can Crow About
Good News On Job Front For Obama
Jobless Rate Lowest In 2.5 Years
The headlines from the obAMATEUR media speak for themselves. Let us see the drones get into a snit because of them.
A little quick on the send button.
By the way, for Bush, the unemployment rate dropped to 5.7%.
You see, when the unemployment rate dropped to 5.7% under Bush the stories indicate that 310,000 people had left the workforce. Since they were no longer either working or looking for jobs, they simply weren’t counted in the unemployment numbers.
But look at the headlines for 2011! We have phrases like “Raising Hopes,” “Crow About,” “Good News,” and “Boost Obama.” The unemployment rate drops to 5.7% under Bush and we see the words “Lost Hope”, “Frustrated Job Seekers” and “Jobless Recovery.” “But,” you say, “310,000 people left the workforce when those Bush numbers were reported.” Well, you’re right. But do you also know that the very same government stats that brought us the 8.6% unemployment rate that is “Raising Hopes” showed that 315,000 people left the workforce?
Come on, wake up and smell the bias!
A 5.7% unemployment rate with 300,000 people leaving the workplace equals “Lost Hope.”
An 8.6% unemployment rate with 315,000 people leaving the workplace equals “Raising Hopes.”
Weasel you way out of this one drones.
Good job tired – pretty hard to argue against those facts, and one reason why many Americans choose to get their news elsewhere.
One other thing I think will be true, and that is the first time Obama blames Bush in any of the upcoming Presidential debates, and you know it will happen, he’s finished. The large majority of the voting public has grown very tired of Obama blaming Bush, and just about everything else.
FACTS?
We don needs no steenkin facts……
Love this guy
time to Re-Arm our boomers with nukes……
China’s Hu urges navy to prepare for combat…
REPORT: NKorea making missile able to hit USA…
Reporter asks Carney: Does Obama ‘Approve or Disapprove of Bestiality in Our Armed Forces?’
Sure, and backseat rides with cocaine and LS.
the man is a disgusting POtuS
Obama Administration Will Use Foreign Aid YOUR TAX DOLLARS) to Promote Gay Rights Abroad
Psalm 109:8
ASAP
The Ultimate Devastating Price of Government Dependency
getting into honesty…the only one that benefits from destroying the middle class is the DNC…they suck up to the poor and push dependency programs to insure that they have the key tool to win elections…the ability to blackmail the poor through threats that entitlement programs are going to get cut by the opposition…
the immoral basis of this whole thing screams out for justice…the DNC should be dibanded and outlawed…for treason against the Constitution
more unconstitutional acts from the executive branch
fact is…only…congress….has rulemaking authority…not the putative fraud in the white house…
This puts the U.S. national debt in perspective:
• U.S. tax revenue: $2,170,000,000,000
• Federal budget: $3,820,000,000,000
• Current deficit: $1,650,000,000,000
• National debt: $14,271,000,000,000
• Budget cuts: $38,500,000,000
Now, let’s remove 8 zeros and pretend it’s a household budget:
• Annual family income: $21,700
• Money the family spent: $38,200
• Additional charges on the credit card: $16,500
• Current credit-card balance: $142,710
• Budget cuts: $385
So we have to take the kids ( who are in Washington D.C.) and cut up their credit cards.
(its just common sense…)
And this puts the entire federal budget and the tax the rich meme into perspective.
Has it really come to this? Newt Gingrich as the conservative alternative to Mitt Romney? That’s what many in the punditocracy have proclaimed as the former speaker of the House has surged recently in the polls.
Yet a look at his record reveals that Newt is hardly the “anti-Mitt” — he’s Mitt Romney with more baggage and bolder hand gestures.
Every Gingrich profile proclaims that he’s a dazzling “ideas man,” a “one-man think tank.” It seems that, if you clamor long enough about “big ideas,” people become convinced you actually have them.
But most of Gingrich’s policy ideas over the last decade have been tepidly conventional and consistent with the Big Government, Beltway Consensus.
[M]ost of Gingrich’s policy ideas over the last decade have been tepidly conventional and consistent with the Big Government, Beltway Consensus.
Gingrich’s campaign nearly imploded this summer when he dismissed Rep. Paul Ryan’s, R-Wis., Medicare reform plan as “right-wing social engineering.” But that gaffe was a window into Gingrich’s irresponsible approach toward entitlements.
In 2003, Gingrich stumped hard for President George W. Bush’s prescription drug bill, which has added about $17 trillion to Medicare’s unfunded liabilities. “Every conservative member of Congress should vote for this Medicare bill,” Newt urged.
And in his 2008 book Real Change, he endorsed an individual mandate for health insurance.
In a 2006 piece for Human Events, Gingrich offered House Republicans “11 Ways to Say: ‘We’re Not Nancy Pelosi.'” Point seven proposed a Solyndra-on-steroids industrial policy devoted to “developing more clean coal solutions, investing in a conversion to a hydrogen economy” and more. It’s not clear why the former madame speaker would complain.
It’s also unclear why anybody looking to distance himself from Pelosi would plop down on a love seat with her to call for government action on climate change — as Gingrich did in a 2008 television commercial.
In 2009, he proposed zapping a North Korean missile site with laser weapons. (“Beam me up, Mr. Speaker!” as former Rep. James Traficant, D-Ohio, used to say in the ’90s.)
The former speaker’s immense self-regard is evident in one of the exhibits to a 1997 House Ethics Committee report on him. In a handwritten 1992 note to himself, he wrote: “Gingrich — primary mission, Advocate of civilization, definer of civilization, Teacher of the rules of civilization, arouser of those who fan civilization, … leader (possibly) of the civilizing forces.” Whew!
When he’s not leading the assembled armies of civilization in a Thermopylae-style battle against “Obama’s Secular Socialist Machine,” Newt does a little consulting on the side.
In 2009, the ethanol lobby paid his firm $312,000, and in 2006, the former speaker scored a $300,000 fee from Freddie Mac, one of the government-sponsored enterprises that helped pump up the disastrous housing bubble.
They sought “my advice as an historian,” Gingrich later explained. (Maybe they were impressed by all those Amazon reviews).
Newt may be a poor fit for the role of “anti-Romney,” but you can say one thing for him: He knows how to play the Washington Game.
Dolf,
I’m not a Newt fan, but I am curious who wrote what you posted.
But, but, but, but me this but, Newt has a lifetime acu rating of 90%!!! He’ll talk circles around barky!!
Ride that third wave!
Gene Healy from the Libertarian Cato Institute
For background, here’s Gene’s assessment of George W. Bush Administration in 2006;
• “[A] federal government empowered to regulate core political speech—and restrict it greatly when it counts the most: in the days before a federal election;
• [A] president who cannot be restrained, through validly enacted statutes, from pursuing any tactic he believes to be effective in the war on terror;
• [A] president who has the inherent constitutional authority to designate American citizens suspected of terrorist activity as “enemy combatants,” strip them of any constitutional protection, and lock them up without charges for the duration of the war on terror— in other words, perhaps forever; and
• [A] federal government with the power to supervise virtually every aspect of American life, from kindergarten, to marriage, to the grave.
President Bush’s constitutional vision is, in short, sharply at odds with the text, history, and structure of our Constitution, which authorizes a government of limited powers. “
• [A] president who has the inherent constitutional authority to designate American citizens suspected of terrorist activity as “enemy combatants,” strip them of any constitutional protection, and lock them up without charges for the duration of the war on terror – Caveat
Obama just kills them.
stooge bait from stooges…the consequence of ignorance
Cluster,
The author seems to ignore the “captured on the battlefield” aspect, or the “engaged in cooperative acts of terrorism” with foreign terrorists part of the Bush Doctrine. It also ignores the fact that this has been adjudicated and found to be within the Constitutional limits of the Executive Branch.
I merely posted the excerpt as an indication of the mind-set of the author; giving reference to the screed Bardolf posted above.
js03,
Pbllfft!
Sorry, that should read
“Pbllfft……pbllfft…pflht…and ..the …horse..you…rode…in.on..!”
There, now….js03 can…..read it.
President Bush’s constitutional vision is, in short, sharply at odds with the text, history, and structure of our Constitution, which authorizes a government of limited powers. “
Well, that does it—-I’m not going to vote for him!
caveot craniumless
BDS and BS a toxic mix of stupidity.
wow……………………………..
Since you brought it up bloody, what do you think a tax increase on the rich will accomplish?
It would pay for the infrastructure, educated workforce, military and legal protections from which they profit, and the police and fire authorities who protect most those who possess most. Ain’t saying it’s right. Just saying it is.
Really? Just curious bozo, have you added up the expenses of those items and compared it to the revenue that would be generated? You might find yourself with a shortfall – just saying.
And two other points – when the democrats had a chance to let the tax rate cuts expire, which was less than a year ago, they didn’t. Do democrats not care about those items you mentioned? Secondly, under these same tax rates, Bush generated record federal revenue in 2006-2008, approx. $2.5 trillion each year. I guess it’s sad commentary that Obama can not – what do you suppose the difference is?
stumpy
yo for sure dude, the 46% who pay nothing will now have to pay nothing X2 duuude. and that just isnt FAIR!!
I also just heard an interesting stat: In 1980, 20% of the wage earners paid no federal income tax. Today, 47% of wage earners pay no federal income tax.
An equally interesting stat is that in 1981 the top 1 percent paid 17.6 percent of all personal income taxes, but by 1988 their share had jumped to 27.5 percent, a 10 percentage point increase. Today the top 1% pays about 40% of all income taxes. At each step along the way, the Left complained that the uber-wealthy weren’t paying “their fair share”. Currently the top 1% pays as much as the bottom 95%. What will the Left do when the top 1% pays as much as EVERYONE ELSE PUT TOGETHER? My bet is that they will still accuse them of not paying their fair share.
but spook, the top 1% AREN’T paying their fair share…they are paying waaaaaaayyyyyy too much…that isn’t fair!
when they passed the income tax amendment, less than 5% of all americans paid income tax…that figure was increased for WW2…and they never restored it to its original state…
taking the money out of the paychecks of the poor and the widows is no different that taking the food out of chidrens mouths…its disgusting and never should be allowed….
except in liberal america
When did Sebelius become all anti-choice?
The entire democratic party is largely anti choice – except when it comes to life. Democrats do not want us to choose our schools, do not want us to choose alternative means to health care, do not want us to choose for student loan options, do not want us to choose which gas guzzling vehicle we want, do not want us to choose which light bulbs to use, etc., etc.,
Or what you do in the privacy of your own bedroom…oh wait, that’s Jeremiah and his ilk…
Not to mention Jeremiah’s calls for the re-instutition of alcohol prohibition….
unpdaddy
just what do YOU do in your bedroom unpdaddy?
bwany, or larry?
once it is out in the public, people self identify with the pathology, and it becomes a political agenda it is fair game.
“choice”???? You kids still trying to pass off murder as “CHOICE”? I thought you gave up on that foolish transparent tactic long ago and just went with the whole “this life is of value only if I say it is” admission that lies at the core of the pro-abortion movement.
The problem with the silly “choice” meme is that it is, logically, pretty open-ended. It started with unborn children in the first trimester, expanded to include the second trimester, ballooned to include the third trimester up to the moment of birth with the caveat that the child could only be butchered if it had not yet drawn a breath (a technicality the pro-death crowd seemed quite fond of) and then suddenly it included full-term, out-of-the-womb, living breathing human beings who just had the misfortune of being gestated by creatures determined to have them dead even though the pregnancy was ended. Suddenly the issue was not one of getting out of an inconvenient pregnancy, but one of killing off a human being.
So the mentality of the supporters of abortion was unmasked as the right to determine which lives are of value and which are not, and killing babies, not just to end “unwanted pregnancies”.
So, given the speed with which the parameters of “acceptable” ending of human life were changed, under the guise of “choice”, logically this ability to “choose” which people had the right to live would be pretty much wide open, requiring just a little time to go from one stage of life to another.
So far the “choices” have been justified on the bases of age, gender, physical disability, possible mental impairment, and of course the true underlying reason of simple convenience. And the first criterion, age, has been pretty flexible, expanding quite quickly till it includes fully formed, breathing, out-of-the-womb human beings.
Just why are we supposed to accept the wide-eyed claim that OF COURSE none of these criteria would EVER be applied to ANYONE beyond the age of……what? An hour? A day? A week? A month? ?????????????????? To people at the other end of the age spectrum? To anyone of any age who meets any of the established criteria for legally and socially accepted elimination? Can new criteria be established? Race? Religion? Political affiliation?
Remember, at the time of Roe v Wade, the ONLY permissible window of killing an unborn child was between conception and the end of the first trimester. Remember how many changes have occurred, and how swiftly. And each change was supposed to be the last one. Even the much-loved ‘late term abortion’ which killed viable babies but excused itself because they were killed while their heads were still in the birth canal and they had not technically drawn breath was soon replaced with the acceptance of having a baby born and the pregnancy ended but still killing the child.
But really, it’s just about CHOICE
And don’t forget the name of the only United States Senator who voted to make the killing of babies after they were born a legal “right”—-that was, of course, Barack Obama.
RetiredSpook,
Since the top 1% controls over 40% of the wealth in the country, it would make since that they pay 40% of the taxes.
Which brings up the question – is wealth static? Can you answer that for us Edward?
Very good point Cluster.
Since the codicil is “controls 40% of the wealth” and not “earns 40% of the income” the question becomes; “Should taxes be assessed on the net worth of the individual or on the accumulation or earnings during the period in which the earnings were made?
“Edward” seems to imply that using the static standard of “wealth” is the same as the dynamic standard of “earnings” and therefore the wealthy must be taxed on what they have and not what they made.
So, my grandfather living on his lifetimes worth of savings must be taxed every year on what he has left, while wage earners that spend everything during the year pay nothing since they have nothing left to be taxed; great logic! Sounds just like a liberal or a communist … but, I repeat myself.
average income then 520.00
dont even file income tax returns under 3500.00
average income now 24k
should not file tax returns under 161.520.00
this would save the IRS processing returns for anybody who does not actually owe taxes…if only they stuck to thier words and only taxed the incredibly wealthy…
this is why they can justify dropping all the tarrifs and import tax’s…and push for a free trade zones…in the end it only achieves the goals of those who seek a one world government…because the free trade zones destroys the market in nations that maintain a higher standard of living by undercutting the costs of its goods with those from foreign nations where people are dirt poor and work for pennies…
THE SATURDAY EVENING POST
Founded A.D. 1728 by
Benjamin Franklin
“…But our tale: Wilson, of West Virginia, was made chairman of the Ways and Means Committee. He had presided over the convention that nominated Cleveland for his third race. This still further put him in favor with the President and caused him to be promoted to the head of the committee.
When it came to the organization of the subcommittees the author of this article, being the oldest member in the service on the committee, was permitted to select the sub-committee of which he would be chairman. In Congress he had always been for tariff reform, and all expected he would choose the subcommittee of tariff revision. To the surprise of his friends, he chose the subcommittee on internal revenue, which would have jurisdiction of income taxation. When his friends asked him for an explanation of his choice he said: “Tariff revision is inevitable. It will come, whoever works for or against it. But with that we should have an income tax, to force the enormous wealth now held in few hands to help support the Government. It is not doing it now and will not even when the tariff is revised and reduced. I am resolved this benefaction shall come; and I am going to force an income tax, which is the reason I take charge of this subcommittee and question.”
In framing the income tax of 1894 every effort was made to avoid the possibility of constitutional objection by the courts. There was a long line of Supreme Court decisions sustaining income-tax laws, beginning with the Hylton case, one hundred years before. This was followed by numerous decisions upholding the income-tax law enacted to meet the expenses of the great war between the states. That law was, in the main, followed in the draft of the new. When drafted we submitted it to the Treasury Department, then presided over by that able Kentuckian, Honorable John G. Carlisle, with the request that every feature should be eliminated that ran counter to any of the many Supreme Court decisions; and it was done. Honorable W.J. Bryan was on the subcommittee to prepare the bill, and did great and painstaking work on its construction. Then, as since, an earnest believer in an income tax, he put all his great power into the work.
He urged that no return should be required of those who had an income of less than thirty-five hundred dollars a year (note: the average worker made around $520 per year in 1913), because it would save the trouble of making returns by those not subject to the tax, and would strengthen the bill. His contention prevailed, as it should. He labored incessantly in the construction and passages of the measure. The decisions of the Supreme Court did not stop his exertions; he urged an amendment to the Constitution, and when it was proposed became one of its most strenuous advocates. When New York hung in the balance he delivered an address there, urging the Empire State to vote for the amendment.”
From the same article: dated 1913 under the section Wilson and the Public Weal;
“weal” translates to doing to the public what’s best for them.
actually…if woodrow wilson found out that the gubermint taxed the widows and the poor and took money out of thier checks every week…
he would roll over in his grave…todays politicians have no moral foundation…period…the “weal” as in weal has nothing to do with the good of the public in this case…just taking the food out of the widows and the poor peoples mouths by taking taxes out her paycheck…it has nothing to do with income tax…because both the widow and the gubermint know good and well that she will owe no taxes….but if she doesnt file that return…the thieves in DC will keep the money they took from her…they will keep the money they took from the poor mans table that should have been feeding his children…
its more like a welt upon the chastity of justice…the corruption caused in our government by corrupt and greedy men…who scrounge for every dime they can squeeze from the people…its worse than the king george as they abuse thier duty to the people for profit
Thanks so much, Caveat…what could be more enlightening than the words of the man who first nudged the nation into the death spiral that is Progressivism/Liberalism.
..“weal” translates to doing to the public what’s best for them ……according to the ruling elites who make those decisions for them. To hell with personal liberty when there are ruling elites to decide FOR THE PUBLIC WHAT’S BEST FOR THEM.
I do appreciate the candor in the language of “doing TO the public……”
Amazona,
Ah, you always catch the subtleties.
In that article from the birth of Progressivisms, the final paragraphs indicate the new idea of taxing income was restricted to 1% to 3% of those incomes as JS03 pointed out were significantly above the incomes of the average workers. It was sold as a tax on the highest earners only unless extraordinary times required more earners contribute.
I disagree that Wilson would disapprove; I think Wilson fully intended to create a wealth redistribution policy that would enshrine his legacy as the Father of the Progressive Utopia; all men fed, all men clothed, all men housed, all men equal. With Wilson and the big brains in the government just a little more equal.
I’m not sure what a welt upon the chastity of justice is, but I think of it more as a carbuncle on the ass of the public.
I realize my perspective of time is misleading; the “new idea of taxing income” had only been around as a regular feature in Europe for a few decades. In the US it was used by Lincoln temporarily during the Civil War, but as a Constitutional concept (that is, amending the Constitution to allow such an abomination) the idea of a regular and perpetual tax on income was new.
it would make since that they pay 40% of the taxes.
It would make since (sic) if we had a wealth tax, but we don’t — DIPSH*T!
It does make sense (at least I’m assuming you meant “sense”) to me, Ed. It’s the Left who thinks they’re still not paying their fair share. Go watch the video I posted at 10:16AM. It puts it all in perspective.
spook
FANTASTIC
Neo, kinda puts a new spin on “tax the rich”, doesn’t it?
“New York Democratic Rep. Nydia Velazquez admitted she did not know what Operation Fast and Furious was
When The Daily Caller asked Velazquez if she thinks Fast and Furious was a scandal that rises to the level of a call for Attorney General Eric Holder’s resignation, “No, no,” Velazquez replied.
Ultimately, Velazquez said she doesn’t support calling for Holder’s resignation because it’s only Republicans who are demanding he step down.
Velazquez’ fellow New York Democrat, Rep. Jose Enrique Serrano, also admitted to TheDC that he was unaware of Fast and Furious when approached for questions about the scandal.
For Velazquez’s and Serrano’s reference, […] At least 300 people in Mexico were killed with Fast and Furious weapons, as was U.S. Border Patrol agent Brian Terry.”
Dimocrats: Painfully ignorant and happily so.
To quote Chris Christie: “What in the hell are we paying them for?”
Because if we quit paying them maddow, shultz, and tingles will say bad things about repubs on tv?
Lawmakers Blast Administration For Calling Fort Hood Massacre ‘Workplace Violence’
Un-freakin-belivable!
wellll trolls
I just booked $188,000.00 of work today with RICH developers from chi town.
Those rotten bastads should have paid all that money in taxes, or to the po damn them………..Oh WAIT!!
count, and OBVIOUSLY by some right wing Christian….right??
Funny how the loonie left’s useful idiots complain on how the Right want to “invade the privacy of your own bedroom” when their elite want to use hate speach/PC laws to invade peoples minds and tell them how and what to think.
dvindice,
Yeah, especially in education.
The obAMATEUR tries to create a crisis to use it as an excuse for more anti-gun laws.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57338546-10391695/documents-atf-used-fast-and-furious-to-make-the-case-for-gun-regulations/
When this story first broke it was easy to connect the dots. Especially, after his meeting and speeches with the Mexican President and how he touched on this “crisis” several times.
All too familiar, this is like the intentional burning of the site of the beer putsch in Germany and blaming your political enemies.
Well, just color me shocked!
All is saved — Belgium finally has a government. Happy days are here again.
http://tinyurl.com/85u2kjs
do they speak australian there?
Sen. Boxer to climate change skeptics: ‘You are endangering humankind’…
humankind to boxer, GROW a Freeking brain.
Rod Blagojevich Sentenced To 14 Years In Prison
je$$e jr, and Ochimpy next?
we could only pray.
Neo,
The folks who have perpetrated the global warming/climate change fraud on the public are going to be lucky if they just pay fines and go to jail. ClimateGate 2 years ago was the smoking gun for the fraud. ClimateGate 2 is a smoking howitzer — exponentially worse than the original. And we’re not talking about a few rogue, never-heard-of climate scientists. We’re talking the leaders, the movers and shakers of the climate science community — the ones who control the IPCC and the peer review process. At the head of the pack is the guy who created the Hockey-Stick chart that got the whole panic started in the late 90’s. The amount of money that’s been wasted because of this fraud makes Bernie Madof look like a shop lifter.
A smoking howitzer?? Where? I love those things.
A smoking howitzer?? Where? I love those things.
I guess we were amateurs….we only used shotguns……
Interesting article about the housing market at Barons yesterday.
Oops! The European Central Bank says they can’t monetize EU debt like the Fed is doing with ours.