If this doesn’t fit the bill, nothing does..
Wisconsin Republican Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner, a former chairman of the House Judiciary Committee where Attorney General Eric Holder testified on Thursday, suggested that impeachment of administration officials involved with Operation Fast and Furious may be the only way to bring the scandal to a close.
In a heated exchange between Sensenbrenner and Holder during Thursday’s Judiciary Committee hearing, Sensenbrenner said impeachment is one option on the table if Holder and the Justice Department continue to withhold information from congressional investigators.
Sensenbrenner didn’t specify which administration officials he thinks could face impeachment proceedings, or if Holder is among them. But he did say the drastic measure would be a last resort.
“There is really no responsibility within the Justice Department,” Sensenbrenner said. “The thing is, if we don’t get to the bottom of this — and that requires your assistance on that — there is only alternative that Congress has and it is called impeachment.”
Folks– This IS an IMPEACHABLE offense– and that’s not hyperbole. The Obama justice department, via Fast & Furious, has become complicit with and a party to out-and-out MURDER, with hundreds of innocent people, including one brave U.S. border control agent, dead as a result of this program–all designed to make it easier for the Obama administration to impinge on 2nd amendment rights. This is nothing less than unconscionable; a criminal act worthy of the rank of “High Crimes and Misdemeanors.”
Holder must resign. Obama must resign or be impeached.
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Leo, you are right. This is an impacheable offense. My question to you is. How do we get the Congress men and women who are in charge of this to file impeachment charges? I will forego my usual negativity and just let my question stand.
How do we get the Congress men and women who are in charge of this to file impeachment charges?
In the past, there have been questionable, politically-motivated calls for impeachment. In my way of thinking, there’s no politics involved in this one. They (the Obama Justice Department) are a party to murder of civilians, all as a means to advance an agenda.
If our elected representatives can’t recognize it for what it is, and proceed accordingly, we as a nation are doomed.
Tell Speaker Boehner to do his job. I know I did.
Chrissy Ann, Again I will forego my negativity and ask you this. Given his history since being elected to the speakership, what do think the chances are that Speaker Boehner will begin impeachment hearings?
GMB: My guess it would be in the lowest of percentages. That is the problem with these milquetoast Republicans.
As the nation as a whole has lacked the spine to even ask the obvious questions about whether our President is legally qualified for his position—-a question that should have been fully and legally addressed, given the preponderance of evidence showing that it was a legitimate concern—-there is no reason to think there is the fortitude to take him on regarding an issue like this.
Holder might be more vulnerable. He is clearly culpable, and clearly the fall guy for his boss. Let’s face it—-Barry excels at setting up buffer zones between his agenda and consequences for what he sets in motion. I say we keep our eye on the goal, which ought to be winning the White House and Congress. Impeachment hearings for Barry might feel good, but would generate a backlash which could kill us at the polls, and he probably has enough deniability built into the way this was set up to be able to spin it, with the help of the Complicit Agenda Media, to create an emotional firestorm.
The country is tired of emotional firestorms, melodrama and angst. So far the GOP has managed to start building an image of calm professional and adult approaches to problems, and being sucked into a catfight with Obama is just going to destroy that and build sympathy for him.
It ain’t right, but it is what it is.
I think the issue has a lot of value as a campaign issue and look forward to seeing it handled as such, with impeachment hearings for Holder. That would implicate Obama for not firing him and reflect badly on Obama without a direct attack which I am sure would benefit him.
once upon a time…the DoJ was simply required to enforce the laws and the constitution…but thats a long lost leader…the DoJ is officially a political, not a legal institution…
if it were a legal institution, the question of oblunders qualifications would demand an answer…yet the highest legal office in the land has done nothing but protect the executive office…and ignore the oath that every single one of them took before the were appointed into thier positions…they have literally violated that oath…by refusing to insure its compliance
I should have made my question clear. I was referring to the impeachment of holder. Not barky. I would never expect the repubs to impeach barky, even if they had film of him committing murder.
I was referring to Boehner. And my statement stands..Boehner is milquetoast.
Chrissy Ann. I agree with you 100% ow the question I would like to ask is. How do we go about advancing the conservative agenda when men and women like boehner seems to be the best the repubs can do?
How do we go about advancing the conservative agenda when men and women like boehner seems to be the best the repubs can do?
Green, clearly we’re just screwed. May as well quit.
GMB is a liberals dream conservative. So rigid in ideology, and so quick to find flaws, that he will ensure that progressives can win the rhetorical war every time, and knowing that many voters don’t dig much deeper than rhetoric, it will be a long time before a candidate worthy of GMB’s vote ever wins.
I wonder if GMB was old enough to vote for Reagan, and if so, did he? After all, Reagan did compromise with O’Neil and did raise some taxes, along with granting amnesty in exchange for a secured border, which of course never happened. If GMB did vote for Reagan, I want to know why he compromised his principles.
Cluster, again the claim of being rigid? I have consistantly stated who I will vote for. Neither Ron Paul or Michelle Bachman nor Rick Santorum nor even Govenor Tardasil are any way near perfect. However what they all have in common is that they are IMHO not memebers of the establishment repub class.
Echo
J.R. Would you care to provide a different answer other than “Green, clearly we’re just screwed. May as well quit.”
People say they want a serious discussion well heres a chance.
How do you advance the conservative aganda when you face opposition within your own party?
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Did you vote for Reagan?
Yes I did in 1984, In 1980 I was 15 . And Yes Reagan had his faults. The chief fault he had was that he believed the donkyrats when they made promises.
His chief ability was that he didn’t cringe when the media started attacking him. He forced the donkys to compromise with him.
Now do you care to answer any of my questions?
People say they want a serious discussion well heres a chance.
How do you advance the conservative aganda when you face opposition within your own party?
I can’t speak for J.R., but I can tell you what my wife and I are doing. We’ve gotten involved in the campaign, both in terms of volunteer work and donations for Richard Mourdock, the Indiana State Treasurer who is challenging 6-term U.S. Senator, Richard Lugar. Over the course of his career, Lugar’s ACU rating has dropped from around 94% back in the late 70’s to 71% in 2010 (a couple percent better than Susan Collins). The last time there was this extensive a grass roots, boots-on-the-ground effort to defeat a major candidate in Indiana was in 1980 when Dan Quayle pulled off a surprise defeat of 3-term Senator Birch Bayh, Evan Bayh’s dad.
GMB,
I will answer any questions of yours but I don’t recall seeing any
Spook, thats not really the point I am getting at. Working to elect those that you think will advance your agenda is a given. That is something all conservatives should be doing.
My question goes towards active opposition to the conservative agenda by sitting repub members of congress. Does advancing our agenda mean only and endless campaign season hoping that we get people who will keep thier promises elected?
J.R. Would you care to provide a different answer other than “Green, clearly we’re just screwed. May as well quit.”
Nope. Since none of the candidates you say you would vote for are going to get the nomination, I stand by that statement.
Does advancing our agenda mean only and endless campaign season hoping that we get people who will keep thier promises elected? – GMB
Yes it does. Doing the right thing (conservative governance) requires constant diligence, and is not easy in a town that relies on pandering and poll testing. Even Reagan had to compromise with the left to get somethings done, and that will not change, but at the very least, I want someone in office who believes in the conservative ideals and will push the ball forward as much as possible.
GMB,
” Does advancing our agenda mean only and endless campaign season hoping that we get people who will keep thier promises elected?”
Yes, that’s how it works.
We work for the candidate closest to our agenda/philosophy then send them to do their job. We watch, write letters, make phone calls and support them when they do as we wanted, withdraw our support when they don’t, and work to replace them when their behavior and representation of our interests becomes unacceptable.
Sometimes we go to Washington and show our numbers; Spook was in DC for TEA Party rallies; were you? Sometimes we gather with like-minded conservatives to lobby for our cause, Amazona was at CPAC, were you? Sometines we meet with each other to clearly send messages, I organize with a TEA group in my town, so does Spook, do you?
How about you demonstrate, other than being obstinate, what you think we should be doing.
Sometimes I wonder if GMB is a conservative imposter – I just don’t know of any other conservative that takes this “all or nothing” approach.
if holders DoJ did its JOB…they would insure that the constitutional requirements for barky were met…we need to start impeachments against any and all lawyers who have subjoined the act as well…each and every one of them have sworn an oath to uphold the US Constitution…not defend officials in the government who have violated it…
The impeachment particulars are brought by the house and the trial is held in tyhe senate, Even though they , obama and holder. are both accessories to murder of that border guard, the senate majority democrats wil never vote guilty. In fact there are 200 murders in Mexico that they are directly responsible for as well. Can you get away with murder? Yes, if you are a democrat. Nixon was not impeached and his crimes were not a fraction in number or seriousness compared to this den of demons, The republican leaders asked him to resign under the threat of impeachment and he complied. The republicans would have voted to impeach a republican president. The democrats will not impeach a democrat president even for covering up murder most foul.
eric holder makes Alberto Gonzalez look like George Washington. Why again did Alberto Gonzalez resign while holder is still holding his job. If President Bush were president and he had done anything remotely as criminal as this, impeachment proceedings would already have begun and thats all the lib media would be talking about 24/7. obama couldn’t carry President Bush’s jock strap.
What did you do with the real James? Is there a ransom demand? 😛
jamestooge
eric holder makes Alberto Gonzalez look like George Washington.
geo washington was Hispanic?
WHO KNEW?
All of this to create a “crisis” whereby more tougher gun control laws can be enacted. ObAMATEUR was implementing his play book when he met with the Mexican president early in his pResidency.
also, so much for having the most transparent pResidency in the history of this country.
This administration is criminal. We can arm drug dealers and the liberals won’t investigate willingly. But, if we arm rebels fighting communism, then we must turn the government upside down “to get to the bottom of this”!!!!!
the whole regime is a criminal enterprise right down to the KKKlintoons.
Impeachment – the GOPs favorite word. They love to threaten Democrats with impeachment every opportunity they get. I never hear Democrats threaten Republicans with impeachment despite the shady behavior when they are in power, but the second the Democratic Party is in power, the GOP starts with the impeachment threat once again.
I never hear Democrats threaten Republicans with impeachment despite the shady behavior when they are in power – Sunny
During the presidency of George W. Bush, several American politicians sought to either investigate Bush for allegedly impeachable offenses, or to bring actual impeachment charges on the floor of the United States House of Representatives Judiciary Committee. The most significant of these efforts occurred on June 10, 2008, when Congressman Dennis Kucinich, along with co-sponsor Robert Wexler, introduced 35 articles of impeachment [1] against Bush to the U.S. House of Representatives.[2] The House voted 251 to 166 to refer the impeachment resolution to the Judiciary Committee on July 25, where no further action was taken on it
ANNNNNDD velma chimes in with the usual “Republicans love to …. and I never hear the Democrats do …. ”
Let’s see…..
Clinton LIES under oath and is suspected of influencing testimony…. to any normal person this is a crime. And rightly so, is grounds for impeachment of a President (or any elected official for that matter).
The Democrat talking point regurgitated by the mindless drones (again cory this is for you): “It’s all about sex!”
Now we have a pResident and members of his administration ARMING DRUG DEALERS this is nothing. But let rebels be armed under a REPUBLICAN President to fight for freedom against an oppressive Communist regime…. oh my, we must turn the country upside down hoping to find some evidence to link to the President.
Or, a charge is made against another Republican President HW Bush that he (in CIA) was flown aboard an SR-71 to Iran and negotiate to keep the hostages until after the election so Carter would lose. The Democrats again “investigate” because of “the seriousness of the charge”.
And let’s talk about W. The libs had their chance to bring up impeachment charges when they took over the House. They didn’t. Their postured the whole time and threw around the I word. But there was nothing to charge him with. The “he lied” mindless talking point was just that a mindless talking point.
Give me a break velma, the Democrats do their dirty tricks. At least arming drug dealers and perjury are legitimate charges for impeachment against crooked administrations. You just don’t like the fact that they have been caught. If you don’t want your Democrat leaders to be impeached, perhaps you should elect ethical “leaders” to begin with rather than just “cool” and “charismatic” ones.
There goes wally again, “remembering” facts he wants to while disregarding others that turns “argument” into the spun little gotcha it really is.
Operation Wide Receiver was nothing compared to F&F. F&F allowed THOUSANDS of guns past the border without the aid of Mexican police once they crossed the border. WR had the assistance of the Mexican police and once it was shown too difficult to track the guns it was ABANDONED.
Why would obAMATEUR repeated a failed operation on a massive scale? Again, liberals prove the concept of repeating the same action and expecting a different result. Actually, it achieved the result he wanted. Thousands of US guns across the border. The Mexican Presidency complained of the US guns killing civilians. Then obAMATEUR was pushing his international anti-gun ideas.
Holder was briefed on Operation WR and of course he ignored it and implemented F&F with the approval of obAMATEUR. Of course, he knew about it, obAMATEUR is a micromanager especially with his administration. Now that it has blown up in their faces they are back-tracking with the denials.
Like I said create a crisis and don’t pass it up.
There goes wally again, “remembering” facts he wants to while disregarding others that turns “argument” into the spun little gotcha it really is.
Speaking of Wally, where’d the little guy go? (not a complaint, mind you) You must be the only one who can still see him, Tired.
Looky…. Looky, wally has finally taken my advice and created a new alias…. “TheTruth”.
Ironic isn’t it? Too bad wally’s new alias still regurgitates the same lies as before. Wally, here is a hint. If you want to change to a new alias, you need to change your writing style and shy away from your “gotcha posts”. You need more substance than the posts you erroneously call “debate” and “fact”.
It is too easy to recognize the moronic rantings and meltdowns from a useful idiot drone known as wally, monty, bodie, jeffy, etc. etc.
Pathetic.
“Or, a charge is made against another Republican President HW Bush that he (in CIA) was flown aboard an SR-71 to Iran and negotiate to keep the hostages until after the election so Carter would lose. The Democrats again ‘investigate’ because of ‘the seriousness of the charge’.”
Before the trolls get their panties in a knot, the investigation tired is referencing is the one that took place during the Clinton Administration of former President Bush and the accusation that he had intervened in hostage negotiations in 1980 in violation of US law. Democrats accused the Reagan and Bush Administrations of covering up their involvement.
The investigation did prove that someone attempted to negotiate with Iran for political reasons, Warren Christopher who as Asst. Secretary of State flew to Paris to meet with Iranians to buy the release so Carter would get the credit and be reelected. He, like Carter failed.
As it turned out, the Reagan and Bush Administrations were both covering Carter’s illegal activities.
heck…the DNC lied to get obieOne elected…nobody vetted him…..and true to your nature sunnyStooge…dumbocraps DID SCREAM FOR BUSH’s Impeachment…cept it ner’ got traction…cuz he dint break the law…
aint dat sumptin!!
scummy
HUH???
a cave in tora bora? or your head up where the light dont shine?
Just how shady can you get, Sunny? Running guns that kill hundreds of people–just to advance a cheap agenda that runs contrary to the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution?
I don’t throw the word ‘impeachment’ around lightly.
This IS CRIMINAL.
Shame on you Sunny. One second worth of typing in your favorite search engine would have proven your statement bogus.
Here I will start you off. It is wikipedia so you should verify everything.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efforts_to_impeach_George_W._Bush
You guys are missing her point; she said “ I never hear Democrats threaten Republicans with impeachment”
She didn’t say it didn’t happen with frequency, she said she doesn’t “hear” about it.
Velma-Blisfully ignorant and damn proud of it!
I guess we should try sticking our fingers in our ears and shout “LALALALALALALA” every time obAMATEUR speaks that way we can’t here his lies and moronic statements.
Green,
Sunny is busy doing, you know, legal stuff. She doesn’t have time to do no steenking research.
Thanks Amazona.
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I just got here, and have been enjoying the responses to poor dumb Velma.
Any of which I would have been proud to post, by the way……
Perhaps our best hope of getting some impeachable charges brought against Obama would come when some states or several states begin to ask for evidence that would support his claim to be a legitimate candidate for the office of President on their ballots. If many state election offices begin to seriously ask for this evidence, the Democratic party and Congress cannot long ignore their request or Obama’s hidden records.
bob
yup
but then we would get the equally as bad hitlery.
I’m not sure about that. The severe criticism and rejection of the election process that was followed by the Democratic party that would be demonstrated by such state action would I think make them think very carefully about who they proposed as their next candidate for this crucial election. And Hillary has already failed once to get her party’s nomination.
Newt. The father of the individual mandate.
Mitt. Put the individual mandate into practice.
Which one is more likely to “put the ball into play”?
Newt moved the ball quite a bit in 1994 – I say we give him another chance. Unless of course you don’t believe that the ball will be moved far enough, and will choose instead to just let the backward slide continue.
“Unless of course you don’t believe that the ball will be moved far enough, ”
Since about 2001 the national repub party has not moved the ball at all. Punting seems to be thier thing.
I wonder just how often GMB runs into things, what with his constant looking back over his shoulder for things to whine about instead of looking forward to what can be done to fix things.
You’re supposed to learn from history, not be paralyzed by it.
The Left ignores history, as it is so inconvenient to be committed to a political system which has never succeeded but has in fact been a miserable failure every time it has been put into play, resulting in economic misery, degradation of spirit, loss of liberty and too often the slaughter of tens of millions by their own leaders in frantic efforts to establish and retain power.
But GMB seems to be controlled by history, so much so that he is incapable of simply learning from mistakes and then looking forward to figure out how to avoid repeating them.
As I said, paralyzed………
You’re supposed to learn from history, not be paralyzed by it. – amazona
LMAO – why can’t I think of lines like this?
GMB,
There hasn’t been much conservative movement at all since 2001, as evidenced by our $9 trillion of accumulated debt since then, but that doesn’t mean we give up.
…..unctuous smarm alert!!!……
I would have used more “colorful” words, but YUP!
Have you noticed how our resident trolls have been trying this lately? CO thinks it is quite darling.
And they grieve, oh how they grieve, with their bleatings of how sad sad sad something is.