Debate Open Thread

February 23, 2012February 23, 2012Retired Spook

Did anyone watch the GOP debate last night? I DVR’d it and will probably watch sometime today. Anyone change their mind or learn something new? Feel free to discuss.

Green Mountain Boy February 23, 2012 / 8:47 pm

I had no intentions of bring up Mr. Romney today at all. Since some one did it for me I’ll go ahead and post this little vid.

Alls fair in politics right?
- neocon1 February 23, 2012 / 8:51 pm
  
  I thought the Mooch was skiing?
  maybe another stealth trip to target……..
- neocon1 February 23, 2012 / 8:55 pm
  
  GMB
  
  what ever happened to a good ASS KICKING?
  put them back NOW or get your ass stomped into the ground POW !!!
  - Green Mountain Boy February 23, 2012 / 9:01 pm
    
    Neo You got me interested so I have been doing some research on Jeb.
    
    The oil thing I can forgive becuase of the reason. Yes I would agree that tourism is a lot more important than the oil industry to florida. So thats allright and a proper conservative response.
    
    After looking looking through his record, I think he would be very acceptable to most conservatives.
    
    http://www.ontheissues.org/Jeb_Bush.htm
  - neocon1 February 23, 2012 / 9:04 pm
    
    Muslim-Groveling by Obama Regime is Disgusting
    
    http://www.americanclarion.com/2012/02/23/muslim-groveling-obama-regime-disgusting/
  - RetiredSpook February 24, 2012 / 12:30 am
    
    I always said the wrong Bush was elected in 2000.
  - Caveat Emptor February 24, 2012 / 11:55 am
    
    Kyle?
Green Mountain Boy February 23, 2012 / 9:20 pm

Speaking of Greece, which we were not, More demands that can’t be met. Pull the trigger already darnit, the Greek economy is already dead. Just go ahead and make it official.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2012/02/troika-demands-38-new-changes-in-greek.html
Cluster February 23, 2012 / 9:37 pm

But according to barstool – it’s the countries doctors who don’t pay taxes that are the problem
Green Mountain Boy February 23, 2012 / 10:02 pm

700,000 burocrats. 30,000 doctors

Yupp its those darn doctors. Pay your darn taxes!!!!

Sorry Bardolf. I agree tax avoidance is a problem in Greece. But I think a bigger problem is a constitution that gives burocrats lifetime tenure.

Maybe it is total reset time for the Greek People. Economically and Politicly. They have every right to be as communistic as they want. They do not have a right to make the rest of the world pay for it.

The minute the IMF sends one dime to Greece, the rest of the world is paying for them.
- bardolf February 24, 2012 / 1:05 am
  
  5,000,000 tax cheats 700,000 bureaucrats 30,000 doctors claiming to make less than 15,000 dollars per year.
  
  Greece will still be around in another 2000 years.
  - Green Mountain Boy February 24, 2012 / 1:19 am
    
    Bardolf. Sure it will. And will be the same cess pool of corruption that it has been well, since it has been.
    
    Can’t they pay for it themselves? Can’t they do what Iceland did?
    
    The more I read about this mess the more it is sounding like nothing more than the big kids ganging up to bully the little kid.
    
    And the little kid is going along with it. They deserve each other.
    
    Does the American taxpayer via the IMF have any responsibilty to be any party to it?
Green Mountain Boy February 23, 2012 / 11:11 pm

Vassilis Paleokostas. The cause of all of Greece’s problems?

Vulgar language. You have been warned.

http://www.badassoftheweek.com/paleokostas.html
Green Mountain Boy February 24, 2012 / 2:06 am

http://www.therightscoop.com/occupy-romney-to-cut-charitable-deductions-because-top-1-needs-to-pay-more/

Anyone want to take a shot at spinnung this?
- Cluster February 24, 2012 / 8:32 am
  
  My understanding is that he will lower the rates by 20% across the board and flatten the code, meaning take out some exemptions and loop holes. For the upper bracket, charitable deductions and mortgage interest wont be tax deductible anymore. First of all, a lot of the 1% don’t have mortgages, and they can still contribute to charities, they just can’t deduct it. That really doesn’t require a lot of spin.
  
  If he lowers the rate by 20% and flattens the code – I am somewhat ok with this. We do have to reform tax codes, and there will be some casualties in terms of exemptions along the way
  - neocon1 February 24, 2012 / 9:37 am
    
    cluster
    
    charitable deductions and mortgage interest wont be tax deductible anymore.
    
    when ALL pay something say 10% MINIMUM, abolish the EITC, then and only then lets put the charitable and mortgage exemptions on the table.
    EVERYBODY has to have a dog in this fight, IF not there will NEVER be an agreement.
  - Cluster February 24, 2012 / 9:45 am
    
    I don’t disagree with that – I would like to see everyone pay a little and have some skin in the game, but when you flatten the code and eliminate exemptions, there will be some controversial casualties.
Cluster February 24, 2012 / 9:06 am

I think Coulter lays out a pretty good case for Romney:

As governor of one of the most liberal states in the union, Mitt Romney did something even Ronald Reagan didn’t do as governor of California: He balanced the budget without raising taxes.

Again, we are not electing the perfect conservative this time around, unfortunately because that candidate just doesn’t exist right now. But we do have what America desperately needs at this time in our history – an effective CEO. We need to simply focus on turning around the economy and regaining our global financial strength over the next few years and Romney is the person to do that. Then while that is taking place, conservatives can work on reshaping the national dialogue and laying the foundation for a more constitutional, states rights based governance.

Let’s stay focused people!!

http://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2012/02/22/whats_their_problem_with_romney
- neocon1 February 24, 2012 / 9:31 am
  
  cluster
  
  he is bad on gun control, he is bad on the homosexual agenda, he has flipped flopped on the environment, he has flipped flopped on abortion, he is good on the business side.
  
  I will vote for him if he is the candidate, im just worried which flip flop will show up?
  the right or left foot.
  Or both?
- neocon1 February 24, 2012 / 9:39 am
  
  I think Coulter lays out a pretty good case for Romney:
  
  Coulter who?
  
  I dropped her a year ago and so have many many others.
  On other conservative sites she is now considered a kook of no standings.
  - neocon1 February 24, 2012 / 9:42 am
    
    drudge
    
    Afghan soldier kills two American troops at protests…
    
    Taliban: Kill foreigners over Koran burnings…
    
    Riots…
    
    Obama ‘deeply regrets’…
    
    Gingrich: Apology to Karzai an outrage…
- Cluster February 24, 2012 / 9:51 am
  
  I think it would help if people were less emotionally invested in politics and these candidates. This is a business, and you evaluate the strengths and weakness’s of each candidate based on the scope of the job they are applying for, and in my opinion social issues are for the people to decide at the state level. I want my president to focus on foreign policy and creating a favorable climate for economic growth.
  
  Also regardless of what you think of Coulter, she has a quick mind and a good feel for the current political climate and how to best navigate that climate in order to win. Winning will cure a lot of problems.
  - neocon1 February 24, 2012 / 9:59 am
    
    Winning will cure a lot of problems.
    
    I cant argue with you there ole buddy 🙂
  - neocon1 February 24, 2012 / 9:59 am
    
    OOH
    
    jeese
    
    the Fn Forkers adds again….we need a ZOT button LOL
navydad February 24, 2012 / 10:47 am

Ten bucks says Robin Naismith Green hyphenates her name….says it all ya think?
- Fredrick Schwartz, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] February 24, 2012 / 11:32 am
  
  Swabbie,
  
  And there you’d be wrong, as usual. Naismith is her middle name taken from her maternal grandmother. Thus, the nickname, “Hoops.”
  - Caveat Emptor, D.S.V.J., O.Q.H. [Journ.] or some such crap February 24, 2012 / 12:03 pm
    
    First off navydad isn’t the swabbie; he’s the swabbies dad,
    
    Second “Robin” is as phoney as you and me; sock-puppets of the fat, balding, Cheeto-stained, cabbage smelling, college dropout in the basement.
    
    grandmother indeed . hurrumph!
  - maudmabelsmithsonianmcdaniel-jones ABC, ASAP, WHO, MbR, IQ0, 86, PBS, MSRP February 24, 2012 / 12:07 pm
    
    I thought she got the nickname because everyone has had a shot at her.
  - neocon1 February 24, 2012 / 12:36 pm
    
    I thought she got the nickname because everyone has had a shot at her.
    
    LOL
    
    and “HOOPS” ?
    with a basket ball?? Oh my