Direct from their Flat Earth Society meeting, congressional Democrats are claiming that the more Americans learn about Obamacare, the more they like it.
Of course, that completely contradicts virtually all polling on the matter, but since when has reality mattered much to the Democrats?
But, hey, let them believe what they want. If they want to go down with the ship, I won’t stop them.
Blogs For Victory 
Seniors HATE saving billions on drugs. Just livid. Next thing you know they’ll be covering children with preconditions. The nerve. Don’t they know children just want to be left alone to die? If they had wanted health care, they would just operate on themselves.
Besides, how will doctors pay those country club greens fees if they can’t defraud Medicare out of a billion or two every now and then?
Well creepy assclown, you will be glad to know that doctors can’t defraud Medicare any longer!
obAMATEUR took $500 billion from the program to pay for obAMATEURcare! obAMATEUR has endangered both Medicare with his obAMAcare scheme and Social Security with his payroll tax cut scheme.
I remember the good old days when Democrats accused the Republicans of putting Medicare and Social Security at risk or “gutting them” to pay for tax cuts.
Look… obAMATEUR actually did it.
Well, as far as the payroll tax scheme — it is covered by the new “hidden” fee on mortgages and refinances that will last the live of the loan costing most of us a home more than we “save.”
All of them are crooks as in reality this fee is not required to replace the lost SS money (like there is any in the Al Gore’s lockbox.)
From the article
“For every $200,000, it amounts to an extra $15 dollars a month.
… will save a couple hundred dollars from having her payroll tax cut extended but her mortgage broker told her the new fee would cost her almost $9,500.
The $35.7 billion collected in fees won’t go into the Social Security fund to replace the lost payroll tax. It goes to the general treasury where Congress can spend it however they please.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_162-57371781/hidden-mortgage-fee-paying-for-payroll-tax-cut/
Oops, fat fingers again.
the live of the loan costing most of us a home more than we “save.”
should read
the life of the loan costing most of us homeowner more than we “save.”
Democrats Actually Believe Americans Like Obamacare
democrats actually believe the kenyan is eligible for POTUS,
they believe massive insane debt is good,
they believe OPM is theirs,
they believe plantations are freedom
they believe the Govt knows best about everything.
they believe atheistic communism is good
they believe exits are entrances and visa versa.
they believe belonging to a lunatic racist cult is Christianity.
they believe islam is a peaceful “religion”
they believe murdering ones baby is good for society.
I believe they are dumbed down useful idiots.
Let’s see, most of their supporters like Obamacare and the republicans are about to nominate the inventor of Obamacare, I’m guessing the White House should feel pretty confident that if it can pass Supreme Court muster, then it will be around for a very long time.
doogie
a long time, or until the TRILLIONS of OPM runs out which will get real ugly real fast in the citys.
Problem is we are all on the same ship. We seem to be struggling to find the right lifeboat.
Obamacare has nothing to do with actual care and everything to do with control. Doctors are leaving the business as a result of the government adding layers of bureaucrats in between them and their patient, so actual care will be diminished. Don’t tell bozo that though, he actually thinks that doctors , you know the people that actually provide the care, are defrauding Medicare. Not saying that some aren’t, but why wouldn’t that be the case with Obamacare? Care to answer that one bozo?
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Lots of articles out there James for those who actually read.
James,
Do you also subscribe to the absurd notion of bozos that Medicare is rife with fraud but Obamacare will somehow not be.
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One sure way to get rid of the potential fraud is to repeal it, which will happen beginning 1/20/13. Nearly 60% want the bill either repealed completely, or at least have the mandate thrown out. Also, the CBO just nearly doubled the expected costs of Obamacare so it is becoming more and more unpopular by the day.
My source for doctors leaving the industry? Google. There’s quite a few to choose from – I was just reading one of them.
Obamacare has nothing to do with actual care and everything to do with control.
Straw man. To paraphrase a horny liberal: “It’s the profits, stupid.”
Doctors are leaving the business as a result of the government adding layers of bureaucrats in between them and their patient, so actual care will be diminished.
Another straw man. Some doctors are not taking on any more Medicare patients as a result of reduced compensation – that’s “greed” for you right wingers. No worries. Greed is good, right? Especially when it’s your money or your life, unless you have no money, then…well, it’s your life.
If your doctor didn’t go to grammar school, high school, college or post-grad at any publicly funded school, then he should complain bitterly that he’s expected to tighten his belt for Medicare patients. But if he got any of his education at any publicly funded institution from kindergarten on, buck it up, buddy. You got here on the good graces of the taxpaying public, now cut us all some slack.
Internationally, doctors rave about the ability to send a bill to one place. No mountain of paperwork. Just heal people, and get paid. Better outcomes, more pay. But what do those fureigners know, except how to get better outcomes with half the expense of Americans.
Unfortunately, RomneyCare is more like this than ObamaCare. But Ocare should be, and I think will be.
he actually thinks that doctors , you know the people that actually provide the care, are defrauding Medicare.
Got me there. There is no fraud in the Medicare system. Hey, fifty billion a year goes out to mysteriously unsick, untreated people, but Republicans just figure since Obozo is cracking down on those abuses, well, then those abuses must be good, right? Those Medicare fraudsters are actually just ethically-challenged job creators.
Doctors are fantastically wonderful, intelligent, good looking people, except for the few who aren’t.
So, show of hands: who doesn’t like children getting coverage for preconditions, or seniors getting a break on drug costs? There has to be some Republican “donut hole” fans out there somewhere, since you guys created it.
blowzo
So, show of hands: who doesn’t like children getting coverage for preconditions, or seniors getting a break on drug costs?
talk about straw men,,,,it’s fo da chillin and da old….REALLY??
the very ones you MURDER?
blowzO
so you are ok with TWO HUNDRED BILLION spent on ILLEGAL criminals who pay NO taxes??
seems you donks love head counts and OPM for the plantation.
creepy assclown: “So, show of hands: who doesn’t like children getting coverage for preconditions, or seniors getting a break on drug costs?”
They already do BEFORE obAMATEUR care.
Do try to keep up.
blowzO
But if he got any of his education at any publicly funded institution from kindergarten on, buck it up, buddy. You got here on the good graces of the taxpaying public, now cut us all some slack.
So PROPERTY OWNERS who pay the school taxes and the rest of the 53% who pay ALL the rest of the taxes, now are expected to provide FREE medical to those who contributed to neither school or the government but got the use of both now want more of OPM?
aint leftist communism grand? and the mean ole GOP who paid for all of this just rotten??
tired
it is over the boys pay grade and mental ability
neo: “So PROPERTY OWNERS who pay the school taxes and the rest of the 53% who pay ALL the rest of the taxes, now are expected to provide FREE medical to those who contributed to neither school or the government but got the use of both now want more of OPM?”
Sure! How else are the Democrats going to maintain an ever faithful following of mindless, ignorant drones?
tired
and after all of that, it still is OUR FAULT….go figure.
speaking of OPM and grifters………
REPORT: Amid Travel Warnings, Obama Daughter Spring Breaks In Mexico…
25 Secret Service agents…
One of Ubomas and holders boyz
Chicago Cop Arrests NBC Reporters: ‘Your First Amendment Right Can Be Terminated’…
POSTMAN CLAIMS: Ayers family put ‘foreigner’ Obama through school…
…video interview
Another straw man. Some doctors are not taking on any more Medicare patients as a result of reduced compensation – that’s “greed” for you right wingers.
You’ve obviously never run a business. Every business has what’s referred to as a break-even point. When your average profit margin falls below the break even point, you might as well do something else. I pass up low profit business all the time, and, you know what — there’s almost always someone who takes it. It’s amazing, though, how often I get calls back from those customers telling me there was a reason the other guy’s price was so low: the product was inferior, his service was inferior, he couldn’t deliver or he charged extra for delivery.
spook
I pass up low profit business all the time, and, you know what — there’s almost always someone who takes it. It’s amazing, though, how often I get calls back from those customers telling me there was a reason the other guy’s price was so low: the product was inferior, his service was inferior, he couldn’t deliver or he charged extra for delivery.
Aaaaaamen, same thing here.
Aaaaaamen, same thing here.
Neo, you know what else (and I’m betting you can back this up)? Many of the customers who abandon you for a lower price, can get pretty nasty about how you’ve been cheating them — right? I get downright selective when those customer come crawling back.
Bozo,
Before “The Great Society”, “The New Deal”, among other Socialist crap that has been forced through the system–the doctors were paid by the patients. The cost was cheaper in adjusted dollars and I (and the rest of my family) was never refused–even when we could not immediately afford it.
You carried a policy for catastrophic care and those were affordable, paid the doctor quickly and in full. Another Progressive load of crap that turns out to be anything than progressive.
Bozo,
Unfortunately you are too emotionally charged up and too intellectually dishonest to have a rational conversation on health care. One thing you might want to toss around that empty head of yours though – if health CARE is the goal of Obamacare, why are there no plans or incentives within the bill to hire more doctors? The bill does call for the addition of a lot of new bureaucrats, but no doctors or nurses. Why do you suppose that is? And your verbal assault on health care PROVIDERS is typical liberalism and another example of your extremism.
mmmmmm mmmmmmm mmmmmmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mno1SqjmQ0g
Let’s be fair and balanced. This video was shot first.
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/bill-maher-sends-alexandra-pelosi-out-inte
Let’s be fair and balanced. This video was shot first.
Let’s continue on the “fair and balanced” theme, shall we. Although the one guy admitted getting food stamps (what he really needed was DENTAL stamps), no one — NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON in the Mississippi video was standing in a welfare line with his hand out.
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Uh, James,
IIRC, your remark/question “Also, you’d rather people be poor and destitute like the guys in Mississippi rather than get government assistance? “ was answered by at least one of the people in the first video who said they preferred their lifestyle to those in the second video.
Also, they had to travel to one of the poorest sections in Mississippi and selectively pick the people in the first video while all she had to do is travel across the street from her (probably subsidized) apartment in NY to find the interviewees in the second.
Why didn’t she go to a major metropolitan city is Mississippi to shoot the first video? Afraid of the results and/or selective bigotry?
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Yesterday on another thread, Spook posted a link about the drop off of campaign donations from wealthier Americans, and now it has been revealed that even one of Obama’s pals, and recipient of Obama’s hand outs, is having second thoughts on Obama’s leadership:
Friends describe Jeffrey Immelt as privately dismayed that, even after three years on the job, President Obama hasn’t moved to the center, but instead further left. The GE CEO, I’m told, is appalled by everything from the president’s class-warfare rhetoric to his continued belief that big government is the key to economic salvation.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/bam_angry_adviser_YOANZQkGODYVqFDAsI9LjP#ixzz1peyUNts3
Cluster,
The drop off in wealthy donor contributions wasn’t trivial either — it was HALF the amount of this time in 2008. He may have raised (as James noted) $43 million in February, but, at that rate, he’s not going to have a $billion war chest any time soon.
I heard someone say the other day that the rats are beginning to abandon the ship. My first thought was a line from a while back:
Is it just me, or does it feel like this current brand of Obama liberalism has set America back about 70 years? There is more racial unrest in this country than there ever has been on the last 50 years. There is stagnant growth, high unemployment, and decreasing wages reminiscent of the 1930’s depression, and Sandra Fluke has set the women’s movement back another 40 years. Weren’t women suppose to be strong, independent and capable of doing anything a man could? Right? But now according to Fluke and Obama, that unless other people pay for a woman’s contraception, than she is rendered helpless. And whatever happened to the feminist cry of “keep your laws off of my body”??
And on this thread we have bozo attacking health care providers and chiding them to just “suck it up” and do what he says. Fascism? You bet it is, but that is what Obama is all about. Just suck it up and do what he says.
GTFO!!!!!!!
No, it’s not you.
Under the bizarrely misnamed PROgressive movement, we have REgressed to pre-MLK days, before he preached that the goal of our nation should be to have every man judged by his character instead of the color of his skin, to an ugly place where nothing matters BUT the color of his skin.
We have sunk into a fetid swamp of racial hatred created and nurtured by a party which can only succeed in gaining power if the nation is distracted by various resentments and divisions.
We no longer tell our children that they, too, can succeed if they also make good decisions and work hard. We do not teach them to aspire to the same level of success that others have gained, we teach them that they should drag the successful down to their level.
We went from touting the strength, courage and honor of women to a policy stating that women are so weak they simply cannot be expected to take the slightest responsibility for their choices and decisions, not even to protect the lives of their own children. On the contrary, we are now telling females that they are so weak, so fragile, that an event like being raped is so permanently crippling they can never recover—but that killing an innocent child who may have been conceived as a result of that rape will somehow miraculously make it all better. We went from “bring home the bacon, fry it up in a pan” to completely falling apart into a whimpering puddle of HELPLESSNESS at being told one might actually have to pay for a product instead of having a nanny-state entity do it for her.
We have gone from fighting for equal opportunity to whining about lack of guaranteed equal outcome.
We have gone from fighting for the acknowledgement that people are not inherently inferior due to race or gender to an official policy stating that they are, and so must be given special treatment to compensate for their inadequacies.
And some call it PROgress.
Ya gotta love Mark Levin.
The gloves are coming off.
Levin suffers from hysteria, as do most right wing radio personalities. Here is some background info on David Brock. Former right wing attack dog that makes the likes of Levin look like wallpaper paste.
http://nymag.com/news/media/david-brock-media-matters-2011-5/
What this shrill attack on anything that can be tagged “the Right”, via its adoring account of Brock, lacks is even a hint of relevance to what it is about the of the Right that he despises, or the POLITICS of the Left that drew him in.
We get a whole lot of noise about the fact that Rupert Murdoch did not allow himself to be ambushed by a pack of rabid Left-wing radicals (how DARE he !!!!) and a whole lot of noise about the glee with which Brock likes to attack people he feels are deserving of attack and a whole lot of noise about how DANGEROUS a single TV cable news network is (without a single reference to the fact that it is only ‘dangerous’ to people threatened by the truth) and in general a whole lot of noise, but nothing more than a steaming pile of hysteria which could only appeal to a ‘James’ whose entire persona is one of focusing solely on personal attack and insults.
Sure someone like Brock would be a hero to someone like ‘James’ as they are equally rabid and equally dedicated to attack. There is an effort to imply that Brock saw the light after attacking people on the Left so did a 180 and started going after the REAL bad guys, but in fact all the article does is use Brock’s addiction to personally attacking people as a cover for the author to wallow in his own hateful pathology.
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bmitch
media matters??? REALLY??
soros must be soooo proud of you hysterical left wing attack dogs and useful idiots.
i like your sense of humor Spook and I agree about the welfare comment. But I especially agree with your snark about Dental Stamps! My god, how can one not take care of one’s teeth! English sailors suffered from scurvy because the lack of fruit made their teeth fall out and they died of starvation.
Which begs the question, could you find someone in the welfare line in New York with similar teeth. I’ll bet you could.
spook
like this cousin of james?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLWmo2kCa8o
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any comments on the market ‘collapse’ today Spook?
DJIA off 65 points? That’s not a collapse, just a minor blip. The market will continue to go up until it doesn’t. Quite frankly, the way this market is manipulated, I wouldn’t be surprised to see it go to 15,000 or higher before the next correction. Anyone who is confident that they can grab a chair when the music stops can probably still make a lot of money. And, of course, the big guys who will make the most money know that, if they don’t grab a chair, they’ll still be bailed out. Is this a great country or what?
people in
MississippiDETROIT, LA, DC, LIBERTY CITY, hell every large city in America….are more interested in marrying their cousins and smoking crack than they are taking care of one’s teeth!fixed……
Stupid stock market crash caused my limit order to be filled because the stock in question gained 2.14% since open and ended well over my ask. Now, I got what I asked for but if I could have predicted the actual close ~ o’well, I wouldn’t have to look for employment for one thing.
A rare instance of honesty by the MSM.
Retired Spook,
How do you do the link as part of the comment instead of as a separate URL?
J.R.,
It’s pretty simple. Cut and paste the URL like you normally do, but in the body of your comment at the point where you want the link to appear instead of at the end of your comment. In front of the URL insert a left arrow (above the comma on your keyboard) followed by the letter “a” (without the quotes) followed by a space and then an “h” an “r” an “e” an “f” and an “=” (all without quote marks or spaces) After the “=” and immediately before and after the URL insert quote marks. After the last set of quote marks insert a right arrow (above the period on your keyboard), whatever word or words you want to identify your link (like “instance of honesty” in my previous comment) followed by a left arrow, a back slash the letter “a” (without the quotes) and a right arrow. I know this sounds complicated, but it’s really not. It’s only complicated because I can’t type it out like it actually appears because the symbols won’t show up in the comment.
*a href=”URL”** Words to use as link */a** where * denotes a ” — that is if this survives the mangulator.
O’Well, everything but the left and right do-hickeys.
The * is the less than symbol and the ** a greater than symbol
The * is the less than symbol and the ** a greater than symbol
Thank you, DB — “great than” and “less than” is what I meant, not left arrow and right arrow. Total brain fart/senior moment.
They are telling us what is coming…are you prepared?
‘Only Blood of the Rich Will Stop Occupy’: St. Louis Hit with Frightening Pro-Occupy Graffiti
“class war”
Satan is loving the left these days…good thing ole jimmah-so soon is not thumping his
koranEr…. Bible eh?Drag Queens Create Spoof Music Video Targeting ‘Right-Wing Bible-Thumping’ Chick-Fil-A
“…Chick-Fil-A say you make the baby Jesus cry.”
A recent exchange between Charlie Rose & Paul Ryan:
ROSE: As you know, Democrats have tried to- and have attempted to- portray you as someone who wants to destroy Medicare, and they have a poster in which you are, in a sense, the poster boy of that. And their argument is that you will, in fact, by a voluntary system, lead to the destruction of something that seniors have come to depend on.
RYAN: The President’s health care law does that already. The President’s health care law puts 15 bureaucrats in charge of rationing the program, and he raids over half a trillion dollars from the program to spend on other government programs. We preserve the benefit for people in or near retirement- the President doesn’t do that- but, in order to do that, you have to reform the program to save the program, and prevent it from going bankrupt. That’s what we do. Scare tactics, I don’t think, are going to work. The country wants to be spoken to like adults, not pandered to like children. We owe the country a choice; we owe them leadership, we think; and if you want to save Medicare and prevent it from going bankrupt, you must reform the program, and that’s what we’re doing.
I love the line about speaking to the voters as adults – something Obama and the democrats never do. Of course the liberal base is comprised of emotionally unstable children, so it’s no surprise.
Didnt take long for da “rev” al Sharpton, eric holder, the FBI, DOJ, FEDERAL govt to get involved in this LOCAL matter, while ignoring the setting on fire of a white boy by a gang of blacks screaming racial epithphs at him.
On Feb. 26, Martin, a 17 year old African American ,was shot and killed near his fathers home in a gated community in Sanford, Florida by 28 yo Hispanic neighborhood watch captain, George Zimmerman, who stated he was acting in self-defense.
PS
There had been EIGHT burglaries by african – american men in the last few weeks.
Militia group to attempt citizen’s arrest in Fla. shooting of Trayvon Martin
(CBS/AP) SANFORD, Fla. – The leader of a self-described black militia group says members will go to Sanford next week to attempt a citizen’s arrest on George Zimmerman, a neighborhood watch leader who admitted to fatally shooting unarmed black teen Trayvon Martin.
Najee Muhammad, a member of the New Black Liberation Militia, announced Thursday that members of the group plan to take the 28-year-old Zimmerman to federal authorities since local police haven’t acted.
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NOTICE to racist BLACK malitia….
THERE is NO CITIZENS ARREST capabilities in the state of FLA.
An attempt to detain any one would be deemed kidnapping and can be MET WITH LETHAL FORCE ………
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NO AGENDA here in Fla eh??
Eric Holder 1995: We Must ‘Brainwash’ People Against Guns
liveleak.com ^
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Something else Neo. I don’t give a (expletive deleted) if there were 1000 robberies in 24 hrs. There is no rational reason for what this jack-leg did and I hope he fries for it.
GATED PRIVATE PROPERTY asks kid where he lived WAS ASSAULTED BATTERED KNOCKED to the ground, bloody nose, bloody head…good shoot.
try it with a cop some time and let us know ya make out eh Bmitch.
bmitch
“SELF-APPOINTED VIGILANTE who MURDERED someone armed with a cup of tea and some skittles who BEGGED FOR HIS LIFE “
THREE LIES in one sentence ….sounds good though even though the whole statement is a LIE
neoconehead
self-appointed is correct (vigilante to be determined)
killed is correct (murdered to be determined)
begged for life to be determined
Q: If you are walking around a gated community as a visitor and a big guy starts asking you questions (we’ll leave stalking or following as conjecture) do you feel legally obligated to answer him?
baldork
I work in gated communities ALL the time and am constantly confronted by neighbor watches and board members.
I always identify my self politely, it is not at night, I dont get in their face, and I dont beat the shiite out of them.
I am not wearing a hoodie and I do not fit the MO and resemble the last eight burglars who has struck in the last week or two.
They both handled it wrong. But the use of deadly force is warranted if you are in considerable danger…IE on your back with a bloody nose a split head and a man standing over you pummiling you in a frenzied attack.
This would be NOTHING if the black guy shot the hispanic.
neoconehead
The police supposedly told Zimmerman to NOT follow Trayvon.
It’s night when Trayvon wanted to go to the store, that’s when you go to the store too bit deal. He wore a hoodie big deal, I wear them too. You are the same gender of the last 8 burglars and then?
A self-appointed watch guy needs MORE information than the police to start a confrontative dialog, not less. Install some cameras in the neighborhood to get information, but you can’t start a heated argument just to gather information.
Race aside (and yes this wins FLA for Obama), when does a person give up his right to just walk around and not answer questions from big guy just because he calls himself something?
If I walk around your neighborhood “casing” the houses, you call the cops. They do their job. If I walk into your house, you do what you want. I’m for legalizing drugs so tools don’t get stolen from my car.
My point if , you don’t confront me on the sidewalk because I fit some ‘profile’ you imagine from watching too much COPS on TV. Your property/stuff isn’t that important. 1000 robberies < 1 life.
This is the same BS as the SWAT team killing the Iraqi vet for supposed drug related information. We need fewer SWAT teams and fewer CJ majors.
There is a difference between “legally obligated” and “reasonably expected”.
I once wrote a warning about being careful of wildlife. It basically said to be very watchful of chipmunks and bluebirds, etc. At the end it said that attacks were really only from bears, but it was considered racist to put out a warning about bears.
Situational awareness is all about being sensitive to what is different. A young man in a hoodie, walking at night, a stranger to people who keep an eye on things in their neighborhood, a neighborhood which has been hit by burglaries lately, is precisely what would, and SHOULD, stand out to a neighborhood watch.
In this case, he was black. I suggest the possibility, a pretty strong possibility given the concerns of the neighborhood, that he would also have attracted attention if he was Latino or Asian or, believe it or not, white. Contrary to the race-baiting of the racially hyper-conscious Left, there are plenty of details that attract attention besides skin color. Age, clothing, tattoos, not being recognizable by neighbors, even a style of walking, can attract attention before skin color is even noted. Demeanor is the most obvious characteristic seen at a distance.
In my old neighborhood in Denver, there were black families in the neighborhood. And they looked like everyone else in the neighborhood, with the single exception of skin color. When ANYONE who stood out walked through the neighborhood, people noticed. When we had some home invasions and a couple was beaten by invaders, we all became hypervigilant and scoped out every person on the street, and skin color was never an issue.
What the race-baiters seem to be saying is that this young man should have been given a pass just because he was black, no matter what else caught the attention of Neighborhood Watch. Kind of an Affirmative Action. And I say that is as racist as looking at him solely on the basis of his skin color.
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a hispanic shooting a black is Raaaaacist?
silly me….
neocon isn’t a racist, period
I disagree with him on lots of things, but he isn’t a racist. He tells jokes which are less politically incorrect than anything Don Rickles ever did.
He makes fun of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and other frauds who only represent the worst of the black community.
He doesn’t like Democrats and finds cartoonish ways of describing them (Bill Clinton=bj Obama=Keynan Marxist usurper Jimmy Carter=nuclear engineer).
He worries too much about people coming to take his good stuff. He puts too much faith in TV news violence and quotes uncommon events as if they are common place, but that just makes him a typical FOX viewer. (Hint violence is overall on the downturn and prison populations are finally decreasing for the first time in decades).
He isn’t a racist.
baldork
“He isn’t a racist”.
Thanks dolf. I am not,
but I am not afraid to call things like I see them,
there is way too much hyprocracy with the race card,
if you are on the right, even the mere mention of race for no matter the reason you are immediately accused of being a racist and a bigot.
while black thugs on the left stand in auditoriums and street corners screaming in microphones for whiteys death, of course ALL IGNORED by the lefty trolls.
alinsky 101
I am not an apologist nor am I intimidated by these tactics.
PS
strange Bmitch you scream about Rush yet ignore 100% the 10 or so lefty talk show hosts using the most vile and worst profanity there is against women and children……..
bmitch
this is big in Fla, and I live here……I have heard all the 911 tapes and people talking to the dispatch when the guy on the ground shot the man standing above him.
Following some one is NOT perusing him, attempting to hide and evade some following you is suspicious especially in a GATED COMMUNITY.
No no no
following someone in this situation is pursuing him from any instinctive point of view
if a big guy follows me, I think trouble is brewing and fighting reaction overtakes me
an average man walking into a mall, surrounded by strangers sets off the same physical instincts as if he is under assault, think if a person is literally being followed
that is why the police told Zimmerman not to follow, it’s the SITUATION that is dangerous irrespective of the men involved
G-A-T-E-D C-O-M-M-U-N-I-T-Y.…NOT da hood.
CRIME WATCH NEIGHBORHOOD WITH POSTED SIGNS,
MAN ASKS YOU DO YOU LIVE HERE? you pull up your hood and tell the man to F off, HE CALLS 911…….sees big problem( NOT a BIG man) a man in a car attempting to see where you are going and to identify if you belong there, at this point a TRESPASSER.
you step out of your vehicle and ask him where he lives and a fight ensues he ends up getting shot…shiite happens when you are a tough guy with an attitude.
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he called 911 and the dispatcher specifically told him NOT to follow the kid. He still did. that in and of itself breaks the STAND YOUR GROUND law.
WRONG AGAIN………the dispatcher has NO AUTHORITY, you are under NO OBLIGATION to follow what some phone operator tells you.
YOU are within your legal right as a crime watch representative to passively follow some one suspicious and to ask them if they lived or had a legal right to be on posted gated property.
the local police had it right, the race baiters see $$$$$$$$$$$$$ and their name all over the news again
SICKENING.
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now tell us about the 13 yo white boy doused with gasoline and set on fire????
WHERE is je$$e, $harpton? the BCC? SCLC? the black muslim terrorist groups who intend to swarm the area and kidnap the man?
OOH yeah lots of leftist outrage here huh?
BS is BS is BS is BS
neoconehead
listen to the 911 tape
If a sharpton-wannabe believes some of the moronic commentators on B4V and reallly believes you are a racist Nazi and sees you outside his house and thinks you are upto no good and maybe gonna lynch him, he can’t come out of his house, follow you around da hood (and I know you have visited da hood) and then when you stop and tell him to f**k off blow your brains out in self-defense. Especially if he has called the cops 50 times on suspicious crackers.
1 gated community where he teen was allowed NEVER a trespasser
2 the cops said to Mr. Copwannabe to NOT follow to NOT follow
I am courteous and would answer just to calm a tense situation, but in reality unless you are a cop, I don’t owe you an answer unless I am trespassing. There is no gated community vs hood in the US. There are laws that apply everywhere. Even people in gated communities don’t get to harass people they don’t know and declare them suspicious based on their vast experience of watching COPS on TV
STOP with the nonsense. Zimmerman is the delinquent with a gun. Your stuff that you’ve bought at the mall isn’t worth a preemptive attack even if you live in a gated community.
You can bring up previous robberies, maybe they’ll find some dirt on Travyon Martin, etc. it doesn’t matter. Your stuff isn’t that valuable in the grand scope of things that some neighborhood watch dude gets to pretend he’s a badasscop and harass ‘suspicious’ people outside your house.
jimmah so soon
“and for the record. Zimmerman is HALF WHITE, HALF HISPANIC.”
and Uboma is HALF WHITE and HALF BLACK who IDENTIFIES HIM SELF as BLACK….BFD!!
baldork
you obviously do not understand **Fla** trespass law.or CCW laws.
the local sheriff and prosecutor had it correct since there were no witnesses and the shooter had offensive wounds.
I hate condo commandos and wanna bees but every lefty is hell bent on lynching this young man which they now will get their blood demand payback.
I happen to see it differently I KNOW posted gated communities and they are closely watched for strangers of any persuasion and strangers are routinely questioned about their presence especially at night.
In fact my in laws live in one and we are usually followed by some ole geezer on a golf cart until he sees where we pull in to then they will stop and chat for a minute.
I still this turned tragic because of a 17 yo kid with a chip from the hood.
from the horses mouth…….
The police maintain that under state law they cannot arrest George Zimmerman, the 28-year-old neighborhood watch volunteer who was licensed to carry a concealed weapon, without probable cause. They turned the case over to the Seminole County state attorney this week.
A few neighborhood residents who say they heard a disturbance were interviewed by the police. But now two witnesses are coming forward to say their interviews were cursory, a charge the police department denies.
“The evidence doesn’t establish so far that Mr. Zimmerman did not act in self-defense,” Chief Bill Lee of the Sanford police said this week, responding to why Mr. Zimmerman had not been arrested. He said he would welcome a federal investigation. “We don’t have anything to dispute his claim of self-defense at this point.”
Florida’s self-defense law, known as Stand Your Ground, grants immunity to people who act to protect themselves if they have a reasonable fear they will be killed or seriously injured.
ENTER the justice bros and the rest of the race hustlers…..SMILE for the CAMERAS boys and get ready for the mother lode, this has twana and duke by a country mile, can you say CHA CHING ??$$$$$$$$
From the horses mouth
Trayvon Martin 911 Call – Did George Zimmerman Say ‘F*ng Coons’?
Enjoy the circus Neo, it’s gonna be 3 rings and more. And the male in the hoodie wasn’t trespassing.
“SOUNDS LIKE”, “COULD HAVE BEEN”, “MUMBLED UNDER BREATH”, “MUFFLED”
a picture of shooter un shaven, disheveled,
a picture tra von in jr high looking like a choir boy…NAH, NO biased “reporting” there.
Trespassing? you are correct he was not…except NO ONE KNEW that at the time of the altercation.
A few simple answers with a smile would have stopped this in it’s tracks……… Im so and so and im staying at XXX address with my fathers girlfriend so and so.
again if this had been the police and the same order took place person refuses to identify, person runs, person engages in a battery and physical altercation would tray von be dead today?
you bet.
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this seems to blow the LIE of “Fn Coons” out of the water.and this statement was BEFORE the mumbled words ‘interpreted” by some liberal talking head.
Robert Zimmerman, George Zimmerman’s father, has said in a letter to the Sentinel that
“George is a Spanish speaking minority with many black family members and friends. He would be the last to discriminate for any reason whatsoever.”
He also wrote that:
“At no time did George follow or confront Mr. Martin. When the true details of the event become public, and I hope that will be soon, everyone should be outraged by the treatment of George Zimmerman in the media.
“Our entire family is deeply sorry for the loss of Trayvon. We pray for the Martin family daily. We also pray that the community will grieve together and not be divided by more unwarranted hate.”
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YET STILL CRICKETS ABOUT…………..
Trash talking black racists set 13 year old white boy on fire – just because he was white.
“You Get What You Deserve, White Boy’: 13-Year-Old Set on Fire in Horrific Racially Charged Attack
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/you-get-what-you-deserve-white-boy-13-year-old-set-on-fire-in-horrific-racially-charged-attack/
BREAKING NEWS on 13 YO burning WHITE boy……………..
Eric Holder has put out a warrant for the Child involved… the chargers are;
1- Wearing gasoline without a permit
2- Wearing ignited gasoline without a permit
3- Allowing one’s clothing to catch fire
4- Burning clothes without a permit
5- Burning Flesh without a permit
6- Failure to put out a fire
7- Failure to extingusih ones-self
8- Exceeding the allowed dB level while screaming
9- Unlawfully transporting an ignighted combustable fluid from a public area (street) to a private area (home).
10- Unlawfully lighting a city street without a permit
11- Causing vaporious clouds to roam a prohibited area
12- Allowing smoke in a smoke-free area
13- Smoking in public
14- Smoking in private
15- Smoldering in a Hospital environment
16- Dying without a permit or paying the death tax
je$$e, al, naacp, CBC, black muslim nationalists declare justice has been served.
baldork
mystery solved………..
The family intends to move out of fear that the attackers went to their son’s school, which KMBC reports he will not return to.*** Melissa Coon,**** the boy’s mother, said her youngest son, 5, asked her, “Mom, am I going to get set on fire today?”
seeems ole zimmerman was remembering a REAL HATE CRIME and mentioned the victims name…………..thats the way I heard it and im sticking to it….LOL 🙂
PS
this is all about pre elcetion politics and this is just the beginning of the hate that will come out of this regime…divide and conquer marx 101
bmitch
a 17 year old man is NOT a CHILD.
there are MANY 17 yo men in PRISON FOR LIFE with no possibility for parole, according to the LAW convicted as an ADULT.
He was on long term suspension from school
he has a rap sheet but they will not divulge it’s extent.
His mother is Hispanic his father causation he IDENTIFIES him self as Hispanic.
(like some mulatto I know of)
There was a fight if you continue to win and pummel the opponent he can use deadly force…he did…get over it.
Mitch you evidently enjoy posting hate-filled rantings of wishing people could be killed over and over again, etc. Fine. Just not here. You are going to have every post deleted if you post one more vicious rant like this one. // Moderator
You defend the indefensible because you identify with an over zealous, maniacal wannabe cop with a gun. – mitch
And you also defend the indefensible because you identify with an overly sensitive, victim mentality ideology. From your link:
The confrontation could have unfolded in any of a million different ways.
So the question is mitch, why do you pretend that you know everything?
cluster
So the question is mitch, why do you pretend that you know everything?
so he can join the MOB (of racists) against the terrrrrible raaaacists (whitey)
it is called dumbed down useful idiots and these twana bradley-duke lacrosse parasites, POS race hustlers and rent a mob droolers are his masters.
STILL NO outrage for the burned CHILD???? bmitch?
Portrait of the POtuS
Good thing this was only a professor and not a community organizer…oops crime watch captain……in a gated community
‘White Fu**in’ Mother Fu**ers Would Die’: FL Student Flips Out in Class, Threatens to Kill Prof.
FAU Student on Racist Rant Over Evolution: Threatens to Kill ProfessorThe video is jaw-dropping. A young woman at Florida Atlantic University was captured on video going berserk in class during an apparent discussion on natural selection. But berserk might not do the incident justice:
she absolutely loses it, threatening to kill the professor and saying “every ten thousand white fu**in’ white mother fu**ers would die.”
“You better shut the fu**up before I fu**ing kill you,” she can be seen yelling at her professor, violently whipping her hair back and forth.
The rant lasts about four minutes and even turns violent: at one point she strikes a male student in the head after appearing to call him a “bit**.” In addition to being violent, however, it’s also at times incoherent. Not surprisingly, it was captured by several students. One person has uploaded the video to YouTube with subtitles. GRAPHIC WARNING — it is unedited:
NOTE
video removed from U tube for graphic language……
just in
al, je$$e, CBC, and the black panther militia are en route to get racist professor fired.to protest and incite a riot.
bmitch
Because I do. I’m god.
Uboma is dat you?
bmitch
so you are for mob rule, screaming race hustlers, and selected outrage of one ethnic group who are perpetual victims and not the elected sheriff and prosecutor.?
yet
STILL NO mention of the MOB of blacks dousing a white boy with gasoline and igniting him while screaming hateful racists remarks at him………interesting how you scream for the defense of a 17 man yet ignore a 13 yo boy…….but hey burned white boys and FAUX outrage dont make good press and riots eh?
PS love the rage you spout towards those who simply see things differently than your hysterical FAUX outrage.
It’s your blog and you control the content. Granted. But it seems to me that it is highly selective when for years Neo has been allowed to post the kind of vile hatred that he harbors towards others. If his uninformed stereotyping is something that you want to be associated with, fine. It’s your forum but my outrage and the defense of this Zimmerman person is purely reactionary because Trayvon was black. I have yet to see on this blog any condemnation of what happened so the entire argument about how unpredjudicial this Neo is, is a lie. And a bald-faced one at that. This kid was pursued, he was scared and when he defended himself against an armed agressor he was shot. This Zimmerman wasn’t a cop. If he was, Trayvon would be alive.
bmitch
I posted nothing racist or hateful YOU do and did.
I merely agreed with the sheriff, prosecutor, and Fla law.
seems YOU side with the blood thirsty racist mobs, race hustlers and liars.
still nary a peep of outrage for the 13 yo burned white boy, so your whole argument is moot and a scam to protect what is coming from your side when Ochimpy loses.
ROTFLMAO…….
A spokeswoman for the Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights group that monitors hate groups, said her organization didn’t have any information on The New Black Liberation Militia. The group describes itself on its website as “Developing and Teaching Spiritual, Psychological, Social, Holistic and Scientific Methods and Techniques to ensure the survival of black people in the 21st century and beyond.”
They quote the SPLC. What a joke! They use SPLC as an expert source? A progressive-liberal, racist group who pronounced the tea partiers as extremist and racist. A group that doesn’t even recoginize the New Black Panthers as extremists.
It’s no surprise that you agree, because if this had not happened and was posed to you as a hypothetical you would agree with the current situation anyway. You have a history. There is no sheriff involved, it is the chief of police. The person who introduced the Stand Your Ground bill is as outraged as the rest of the country. (Except you of course.) Trayvon’s body was in a morgue for 2 days before his parents were contacted. The post death examination revealed neither drugs nor alcohol but did they examine Zimmerman? No. Did they do a background check on him to reveal his arrest record? No. Zimmerman was told with emphasis NOT to pursue Trayvon by the 911 dispatcher and he paid no attention to her. HE was the aggressor, not the victim which on its face is in direct violation of the law. If he was a police officer who had shot someone he would immediately be placed on leave and assigned a desk position. But Zimmerman is still walking around with a gun! What if YOUR child had on a hooded sweatshirt and was pursued by an adult who outweighed him or her by 100 lbs and ended up dead?
And I live in the city were you try to conflate two crimes. There is no equivillency. None. Zero and this feeble attempt to draw a connection
is a crude, uncreative deflection. The killing of Trayvon is in no way a justification or an excuse for the other crime. A crime committed by minors, not a self-appointed Barney Fife with a 9mm.
still no comment about the brutal racist burning of a 13yo white boy by a mob of racist blacks.
THREE DAYS and NO DOJ, FBI, FEDERAL arrest…….why is that?
FACT, there was a physical altercation.
FACT zimmerman was under NO obligation to lie on the ground and take a pummeling no matter WHO started it or why.
FACT there were 10 murders and 40 shootings in Ubomos chi town in the last week and NO je$$e, al notso$harpton, DOJ, FBI, black militias, outraged media matters trolls and leftist commie agitators answer me bmitch why is that?
“Earlier reports by the liberal media gave the impression that Trayvon was much smaller than Zimmerman, stating that Zimmerman outweighed Trayvon by 110 lbs and that Trayvon only weighed 140lbs, which seems impossible if he stood six foot three and was on the football team.”
The liberal media have their new Rodney King. It is apparent they are trying to shape the narrative as before. With King, you rarely saw the WHOLE video, you would only see the beating already in progress to make King the helpless “victim”. You rarely saw him get up off the and attacking the police officers and acting belligerent to their instructions, which prompted the “beating” in the first place.
Now the media is showing an innocent little boy the “victim” of the big bad racist bully with a gun. They are sculpting the narrative the way they see fit.
If this incident had not happened they would have to cover rising gas prices and the poor job obAMATEUR is doing to fight it, contrary to their demands they had of Bush in fighting rising gas prices.
Tired
the whole faux outrage of this tragedy is exactly as you portrayed it…a RED HERRING and a political lynching.
WoW
watch the video….language
http://upressonline.com/2012/03/fau-student-threatens-to-kill-professor-and-classmates/
meanwhile the country is chasing the red herring with je$$e and his rent a mob……….
The IRS Forming ‘SWAT Team’ to Nab Tax Evaders
“A staff of 90,000 people and a budget of $11.8 billion”
OOH YEAH…..life can be a bmitch….
“John G. is 63 years old and owns a small business. He’s a life-long Republican and sees his dream of retiring next year has all but evaporated. With the stock market crashing and new taxes coming his way, John assumes now that he will work to his dying day.
John has a granddaughter. Ashley is a recent college grad. She drives a flashy hybrid car, wears all the latest fashions, and loves to go out to nightclubs and restaurants. Ashley campaigned hard for Barack Obama. After the election she made sure her grandfather (and all other Republican family members) received a big I told-you-so earful on how the world is going to be a much better place now that her party is taking over.
Having lost both roommates, Ashley recently ran short of cash and cannot pay the rent (again) on her 3 bedroom townhouse… Like she has done many times in the past, she e-mailed her grandfather asking for some financial help.
Here is his reply:
Sweetheart, I received your request for assistance. Ashley, you know I love you dearly and I’m sympathetic to your financial plight. Unfortunately, times have changed. With the election of President Obama, your grandmother and I have had to set forth a bold new economic plan of our own….”The Ashley Economic Empowerment Plan.” Let me explain.
Your grandmother and I are life-long, wage-earning tax payers. We have lived a comfortable life, as you know, but we have never had the fancier things like European vacations, luxury cars, etc… We have worked hard and were looking forward to retiring soon. But the plan has changed. Your president is raising our personal and business taxes significantly. He says it is so he can give our hard earned money to other people… Do you know what this means, Ashley? It means less for us, and we must cut back on many business and personal expenses.
You know the wonderful receptionist who worked in my office for more than 23 years? The one who always gave you candy when you came over to visit? I had to let her go last week. I can’t afford to pay her salary and all of the government mandated taxes that go with having employees…. Your grandmother will now work 4 days a week to answer phones, take orders and handle the books. We will be closed on Fridays and will lose even more income.
I’m also very sorry to report that your cousin Frank will no longer be working summers in the warehouse. I called him at school this morning. He already knows about it and he’s upset because he will have to give up skydiving and his yearly trip to Greenland to survey the polar bears.
That’s just the business side of things. Some personal economic effects of Obama’s new taxation policies include none other than you. You know very well that over the years your grandmother and I have given you thousands of dollars in cash, tuition assistance, food, housing, clothing, gifts, etc., etc. But by your vote, you have chosen to help others — not at your expense — but at our expense.
If you need money now sweetheart, I recommend you call 202-456-1111 202-456-1111 202-456-1111 202-456-1111 . That is the direct phone number for the White House.. You can also contact the White House here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/CONTACT/%C2%A0;…
You yourself told me how foolish it is to vote Republican… You said Mr. Obama is going to be the ‘People’s President’, and is going to help every American live a better life. Based on everything you’ve told me, along with all the promises we heard during the campaign, I’m sure Mr. Obama will be happy to transfer some stimulus money into your bank account. Have him call me for the account number which I memorized years ago.
Perhaps you can now understand what I’ve been saying all my life: Those who vote for a president should consider the impact on the nation as a whole, and not be just concerned with what they can get for themselves. What Obama supporters don’t seem to realize is all of the money he is redistributing to illegal aliens and non-taxpaying Americans (the so-called “less fortunate”) comes from tax-paying families.
Remember how you told me, “Only the richest of the rich will be affected”? Well guess what, honey? Because we own a business, your grandmother and I are now considered to be the richest of the rich. On paper, it might look that way, but in the real world, we are far from it..
As you said while campaigning for Obama, some people will have to carry more of the burden so all of America can prosper… You understand what that means, right? It means that raising taxes on productive people results in them having less money; less money for everything, including granddaughters.
I’m sorry, Ashley, but the well has run dry. The free lunches are over… I have no money to give you now. So, congratulations on your choice for “change.” For future reference, I encourage you to try and add up the total value of the gifts and cash you have received from us, just since you went off to college, and compare it to what you expect to get from Mr. Obama over the next 4 (or 8) years. I have not kept track of it, Ashley. It has all truly been the gift of our hearts.
Remember, we love you dearly… but from now on you’ll need to call the number mentioned above. Your “Savior” has the money we would have given to you. Just try and get it from him.
Good luck, sweetheart.
Love, Grandpa”
And your point with this cartoon narrative is what exactly? You believe someone is stealing something from you. I think you should prepare yourself. Obama is going to be re-elected.
mitch, just for grins, try to post something for once that actually means something. I know you consider this blog as nothing but a litter box where you can deposit your mental droppings, but it is really intended to be a forum for discussion of politics and current events.
You just scurry back into your little cubby and murmur your mantra of “Obama is going to be re-elected” to soothe yourself. It’s obviously a lot easier than actually thinking.
And if that gets too boring, try working on reading comprehension. Nothing in that post of neo’s said anything about anybody stealing anything from anyone. Remember, as you PL trolls keep telling us, taxation is NOT confiscation, much less stealing.
Makes the Fair Tax and the elimination of the
GestapoIRS look pretty good, doesn’t it?Someone being murdered in the way Trayvon was takes on a higher priority than the price of gas.
There is no narrative, only the stark reality of what happened. And your lack of outrage is reflected in the same callousness in which he was killed and then totally disregarded as having no meaning to anyone; his family, his friends, etc.
Fox news is hardly a credible source, especially when they have devoted 1000 times less coverage to this story and when they have, they tried to turn this into a 2nd amendment issue. Furthermore, everything about the height and weight of both Zimmerman and Trayvon as stated by “John” flies in the face of the actual physical descriptions. But you all keep on investing in this defense. Imagine your outrage when Zimmerman is arrested and the law changed. Maybe you should act as defense council since you know so much about what “really” happened. Maybe you should go up against the weight of public outrage or better yet, talk to his parents and explain to them that their son, who body rot in a morgue for 2 days was the aggressor and that Zimmerman was well within his rights to act as judge, jury and executioner. Good luck!
Well, mitch, you can call it “murder” all you want, but that doesn’t make it so, any more than most of your silly rants have any basis in fact.
Your screed is nothing more than a collection of hyper-emotional projections of what you FEEL, stated as if fact.
You use inflammatory language to add emotion to your post, but it is all coming from your own mind. “Murder”, “callousness”,”totally disregarded as having no meaning to anyone”, “rotting in a morgue”, “judge, jury and executioner.”……quite a lot of hysteria, but all coming from your own feverswamp of a mind.
Why are you so deeply invested in this being a racially motivated hate crime? You dismiss Fox News out of hand as simply not being credible—convenient, but silly. You dismiss the eyewitness account. You dismiss some accounts of the physical size of the two men, cherrypicking the ones that support your hysterical narrative.
When only two people really know what happened, and one of them is dead, the evidence has to speak. And the evidence has the shooter on the ground, on his back, being hit in the face by the shootee. (And no, I will NOT call him a “victim”.)
Maybe YOU should act as prosecutor since you know so much about what “really” happened. After all, you don’t hesitate to make definitive statements based on nothing more than what you want to have happened, because that is what it would take to support your bigotry.
Sorry mitchie, but the media is controlling the narrative just like they did with Rodney King. They are releasing information and sculpting the meaning of the information as they see fit. They are following the media motto: “if it bleeds, it leads”.
Regardless of what little information is out there about the incident. The irresponsible media is reporting on incomplete and out of context information available, making assumptions and the like, not waiting for coherent facts to be released. I never claimed I knew what happened. I only responded with the picture the media is trying to paint.
In effect, they are stirring the pot for ratings, just like they did with Rodney King. The full video of King was rarely shown. The part they always showed on their broadcasts were the cops trying to subdue him and paint the incident as a beating “because he was black”. They did not show a belligerent King attacking the police officers which started the whole incident. Nope.
The same can be said for Treyvon. The pictures they release of him looks to make him about age twelve and not the 17 yr old, 6 foot 2 football player. A 6 foot 2 ball player vs a 5 foot 2 man changes the picture doesn’t it? No one knows what really happened, at least not yet. All we have now are scattered facts and huge assumptions portrayed by the media.
However, I am not dismissing the actions of Zimmerman. As it stands right now (unless credible and contrary information comes forward) he should, in the least, be charged with man slaughter. I know you rely on the rating hungry media information for your “trial” of Zimmerman and complete innocence of Martin.
Also, let’s not forget the groups who are trying to exploit this sad incident, but it seems you have fallen for it already. The first groups are those that are making this a pure racial issue – he was shot because he was black. The second group are the anti-2nd Amendment groups – repeal the law and enforce more gun control. You play into their hands with every post. Are you fond of being their puppet?
The drama you write is good for an episode of Law and Order but in reality it does not fit – at least until credible information and not sculpted information has been released.
Right now the media is cashing in on ratings and could care less about the complete truth. They want to get as much mileage as possible from the narrative they are portraying – just like the Rodney King incident.
Oh, BTW, please stop repeating those theatrics. Those theatrics cloud the minds of weak-minded individuals – namely you!
again
the whole faux outrage of this tragedy is exactly as you portrayed it…a RED HERRING and a political lynching.
bmitch
the TRUTH is a bmitch…….
“Neighborhood Watch Shooting: Key Witness “John” Speaks Out
Trayvon Martin was on top of Zimmerman punching him when he was shot! Media has known since Feb. 27th
The following video and its transcript contain the statements by “John” who is a witness to the Neighborhood Watch Shooting. “John” has stated that Trayvon Martin was on top of and beating the Neighborhood Watchman, George Zimmerman. Trayvon was wearing a “hoodie” that evening and Zimmerman was wearing a red sweater.
The liberal media has literally shown pictures of Trayvon as a twelve year old boy as if those pictures were recent. Trayvon was 17 years old and a member of the high school football team.
Internet Blogs are stating that Trayvon was six foot three inches tall and George Zimmerman was five feet two. Earlier reports by the liberal media gave the impression that Trayvon was much smaller than Zimmerman, stating that Zimmerman outweighed Trayvon by 110 lbs and that Trayvon only weighed 140lbs, which seems impossible if he stood six foot three and was on the football team.
Man shot and killed in neighborhood altercation: MyFoxORLANDO.com
Below is a transcript of the Fox News interview of the witness “John” by reporter Keith Landry.
Narration: Sanford police (are) still trying to figure out exactly what happened in this spot here last night. We talked to a man who didn’t want to be shown on camera, who witnessed part of the attack right here then went upstairs to his window and witnessed the rest of it after he called 911.
Reporter: “What are you thinking now about all this?”
Narration: This afternoon I talked to “John” through his front door about what he saw last night during a fight that turned into a deadly shooting.
John: “The guy on the bottom (Zimmerman) who I believe had a red sweater on was yelling to me ‘help, help’. I told him (Trayvon) to stop (beating Zimmerman) and called 911.
Narration: John locked his patio door, ran upstairs and heard at least one gun shot.
John: And then when I got upstairs and looked down, the person (Trayvon), who was on top, beating up the other guy, was the one laying in the grass and I believe he was dead at that point.”
Powerful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=W5mbldTkruM&feature=share
cluster
Very and quite humbling.
I think this video highlights the differences between conservative and liberal thought. Liberals would want to create a government program to help him up and staff it with union bureaucrats. Conservatives know that his God given inner strength can lift him up with our individual encouragement and support. It’s amazing what the individual can do when challenged, unfortunately liberals believe that those challenges are the fault of someone else and government needs to step in.
“Powerful” is an understatement. I disagree, though, with your assertion below that liberals would want to create a government program to help him. The majority of liberals would have viewed him as a candidate for abortion after the first ultrasound.
Sad but true
And yet how many lives has this guy touched in a positive way compared to your average Liberal?
OK, let’s see if I’ve got this embedded link thingy down. Moderator please help me out if I screw this up.
It seems as though the Democrats’ manufactured war on women isn’t going too well.
Awesome — it worked!
this is just too funny not to share.
Boy, I sure hope the Secret Service keeps Obama safe until next January 20th.
Interesting dynamic playing out in the GOP primaries. Romney has 563 delegates following his victory yesterday in Illinois. He’s won 54% of the delegates so far, and if he continues to win that percentage of the remaining 1,154 delegates, that will put him at 1,181 after the last primary in Utah, with 1,144 need to win. Not exactly a slam dunk, but if I were a betting man………….
This is Romney’s nomination. I only wish that the whiny little boy would recognize that and go home.
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It doesn’t matter. The vile nature of your posts has you on the “delete” list anyway. And coming back with a mild post or two to try to get back on the blog won’t work. The content is deleted and soon the whole thing will be including your disgusting name. For now it is left to show that you insist on coming back even when your posts are removed. // Moderator
The comments above are curious coming from some of the same people who a couple days ago were so zealous about standing up to bullies. I would suggest that from Trayvon’s perception, he was being confronted by a bully. Remember, he is minding his own business, he is breaking no law, he is on foot. And suddenly he is being followed by a bigger, older guy who just got out of an SUV.
So when Trayvon is confronted in an aggressive manner by the bigger guy, who produces no credentials, who clearly isn’t a cop, he is scared. The phone conversation with his girlfriend supports the idea that he was scared. It’s a desperate situation and he needs to do something to defend himself. So he hits the guy in the nose. The “Stand your ground” law, at least in theory, applies equally to Trayvon as it does to Zimmerman.
Up to that moment Zimmerman is feeling cocky and powerful, but suddenly he gets hit in the nose. And from then on all he sees is red. That’s exactly what the real cops were trying to prevent by telling Zimmerman to stay put. The little actually guy “stood his ground”, in Florida’s legal parlance, to the bully – but the bully had a gun and he pulled it.
The fact seems pretty clear that in his own mind, Trayvon was standing up to a bully. It’s fine ethically for you people here and your kids to stand up to bullies, and for Zimmerman to “stand his ground” – so why not for Trayvon? Double standard, anybody?
dennistooge
The phone conversation with his girlfriend supports the idea that he was scared.
and you have a record of this conversation?
I say just like the fight, only two people knows what happened and one of them is dead.
Do you have a record of what John allegedly saw?
That is quite a detailed narrative, dennis. But it is wholly imaginary, coming from your own mind and not from any objective external reality.
Yes, it could be true in some detail or even all.
I could invent my own narrative, in which a stranger in a clearly marked Neighborhood Watch area is approached by a man who wants to know what he is doing there, and the stranger replies, very politely, “My name is John Doe and I am visiting my father over at 1111 Elm Street. His name is Jim Doe. If you want to call him to confirm this, his number is ————–” And in my narrative, it all ends here, with an apology to the stranger and an explanation that there have been eight burglaries nearby recently and everyone is on high alert.
A hostile or belligerent response to someone who wants to know what you are doing in a certain place at a certain time might be a knee-jerk reaction to perceived racism, it might be a teen-aged testosterone surge, it might be genuine fear based on brainwashing that all whites want to kill all blacks, but it is still going to make things worse instead of better. We don’t know it was a hostile or belligerent response, but we do know the questioner was physically attacked and knocked down, which seems to indicate that it was.
There is a certain degree of responsibility associated with every action. If someone comes to my door and demands to know my name and why I am here, I will be less accommodating than if I am walking by his house at night in a neighborhood where I have never been, where I am not familiar, and which is clearly marked as a neighborhood where people keep a close eye on things.
My turf, my rules.
Your turf, your rules.
No, Amazona – the turf / rules metality doesn’t fly. The law applies in any case, and if “stand your ground” is the law in Florida it applies equally to Trayvon as it does to Zimmerman. Doesn’t matter who lives where, if no laws were being broken.
Don’t know where this post will end up, as random placement seems to be the rule on this turf.
Amazona, really? “It can’t be true but it could be true.” really? Zimmerman barraged the police with 911 calls to the point where he became a problem and he only reported to police when he sawe someone black. Clearly the man has had some problem with black men in the past. I’m sure it will come out in federal court.
When I was a little kid, my grandmother got me listening to Paul Harvey, and I continued to do so whenever possible as long as he was on the air. This morning Glenn Beck played this clip of Harvey from 1965. What foresight he had.
It was as though Paul Harvey had a functional crystal ball back in 1965.
Spook, read “The Screwtape Letters” for a similar take.