In honor of the MASSIVE victory (61-39%) of Indiana State Treasurer, Richard Mourdock over 6-term U.S. Senator Richard Lugar in yesterday’s primary election, an open thread to discuss how the various 2012 campaigns are shaping up around the country. Less than 30 days before the recall election in Wisconsin, Governor Walker will go up against the mayor of Milwaukee, whom Walker beat in 2010 by 5 points.
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A day late there Spook? 🙂 Not to worry. Scott Walker outdraws the combined vote total of his donkrat rivals, The TEA Party is alive and well , and a convict sitting in a federal prison in Texas wins ten West Virginia Counties and over 40% of the vote in the donkrat presidential primary.
Barky in a landslide in 2012. LOLzer Bite it proggies.
A day late there Spook?
No — if I had posted an open thread yesterday, I could only have speculated that Mourdock was going to win because the latest poll put him up by 10 points. A 22 point win over a 6-term incumbent is something that just doesn’t happen all that often, and it invites a discussion about the ramifications of not only that race, but other races across the country. As you note, Walker is likely to beat Barrett in the recall by more than his margin 2 years ago.
I didn’t expect Mourdock to win by as big as a margin as he did. A very good sign that the TEA Party is alive and well in Indiana. It will send a signal to others that have the reputation of crossing the isle to work with the donks that they better take care.
Hopefully Hatch will also bite the dust in Utah too. We can only hope.
Besides Spook, I was only teasing you. 🙂
I didn’t expect Mourdock to win by as big as a margin as he
did.
I don’t think anyone did. Lugar didn’t just run a negative campaign, he ran a nasty campaign of personal attacks that were designed to show Mourdock as crooked, unethical and incompetent. I suspect, in the end, that strategy was his undoing, as it was so completely out of character for a man whom many considered to be the elder statesman of the Senate.
A very good sign that the TEA Party is alive and well in Indiana.
It is, and at a time when many pundits were writing off the Tea Party movement as dead. We’re not dead — just “transformed” — and Energized.
It will send a signal to others that have the reputation of crossing the isle to work with the donks that they better take care.
Wouldn’t it be nice to get to a point where “bipartisanship” was defined as Democrats crossing the aisle to work with Republicans?
Besides Spook, I was only teasing you.
I had the sense that you were, GMB.
Wouldn’t it be nice to get to a point where “bipartisanship” was defined as Democrats crossing the aisle to work with Republicans?
I’d be willing to bet that, as more and more conservative Repubs are elected, that more and more moderate to conservative Dems like Joe Manchin will also be elected. If that happens, you may actually see elected representatives getting together for the good of the country.
Not to worry. Scott Walker outdraws the combined vote total of his donkrat rivals,
And the national media is so embarrassed by that fact that you’d be hard-pressed to find a national news article that says that. The interesting aspect of the Wisconsin primary is that the turnout was the highest since 1952, which, if you read the news leading up to the primary, seemed to indicate that the Dems were going to get the majority of votes.
Lugar was 36 years in the Senate?? And John Kerry calls his defeat a disaster for the Senate? Who do these elected representatives think they are? Seriously, don’t you think 36 years in the Senate is quite enough?
Great to see that Walker looks like he will beat this juvenile uprising – also fun to note that the union supported democrat lost in the primary.
I am getting more and more confident that common sense will prevail in 2012!!!
The only question now with Luger is how will react to being dumped? I would say look for the him to cross the isle and stay there until the next congress is seated. It is too bad that Indiana has a sore loser law and he can’t run as an independent. Yes, it is too bad. 🙂
The only question now with Luger is how will react to being dumped? I would say look for the him to cross the isle and stay there until the next congress is seated.
I’d be surprised to see that happen. Lugar is not an Arlen Specter. What’s a shame is that Lugar didn’t see the handwriting on the wall last fall and simply announce his retirement. He could have ridden off into the sunset with the admiration of a majority of Hoosiers and his reputation and legacy intact.
“I’d be surprised to see that happen. Lugar is not an Arlen Specter.”
Just a bit of negativity is going to rear it’s ugly head again here. I would not be surprised at all if Lugar screws the conservative cause as much as he can until the next congress is seated.
Being sore losers is a hallmark of the privelged/rino wing of the repub party. Scazzafava, Castle, Murkowski, and a lot of others if you need reminding how those folks reacted to loosing.
That uses up my quota of negativity until the 1st of July.
But…but…but, I thought the TEA party was DEAD and all that.
Tea Party Patriots: A $12.2 Million Haul
Sen. Richard Lugar, who lost his primary fight in Indiana Tuesday, doesn’t need any reminders of the tea party movement’s ongoing appeal. But for those who do, another one surfaced recently in the tax return of the tea party movement’s biggest umbrella organization.
The Woodstock, Ga.-based Tea Party Patriots reported raising $12.2 million for the year ended May 31, 2011. That vaults them into the ranks of some of the most successful conservative activist groups, including FreedomWorks, the Club for Growth and Americans for Tax Reform.
Read all about it at;
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/05/09/tea-party-patriots-a-12-2-million-haul/
Here in NC — 20% of the DimmiCrat voters select basically “None of the Above” rather than punch the ticket for Obama. Not looking good for Obama but it is good to see the TEA party alive and well in their new role.
Rush has been discussing the Indiana race for much of his first 2 hours. He just nailed it by saying that Hoosiers simply didn’t see Lugar as someone who offered solutions to the drastic problems the country is facing.
John “effing” Kerry calls the Lugar loss a “tragedy”. The best endorsement yet for Mourdock. Lets have some more wailing and gnashing of teeth from accross the aisle.
Puhleez. 😛
Agreed. This cozy little “good ol boys” club needs their cage rattled.
Sachlich richtige aber nicht im Taglich nutzung. ”
Scheiß Verlierer” gibt eine bessere Übersetzung
🙂
Dies sollte Anlass für eine dauerhaftes Verbot sein, aber es ist Ihr Blog.
Lugar won’t attend post primary unity rally. I would ask why but closing ranks and supporting the repub nominee only applies when it is a rino like Lugar.
Hey Thomas, how do you say “sore loser” in german? LOL It’s alright if you don’t reply, I already know. 🙂
Link for above.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2012/05/lugar-wont-attend-gop-unity-press-conference-122899.html
Wie Sagt mann “schlechter verlierer” auf English?
Technically correct. If you translate word for word but not how it wouls be said in everyday useage.
Thomas, can you help us out here?
😛
GMB,
I beg to differ; the above translates literally as “As one says man “sore loser” in English?” Yet, indeed it is common usage for the expression “How would one say ‘sore loser’ in English?” Note the familiar use of “Sagen”. I used/heard this often in Germany as I struggled to communicate; often as “Wie sagt mann ‘child molester’ auf Deutschen?”
A literal translation to German would be “Wie kann man sagen “schlechter Verlierer” auf Englisch?”
I often use the word “Scheiß” but never for “sore” ~Most often it’s what I blurt out when I hit my thumb with a hammer
Oder “Scheißkopf liberals!”
Rats placed my reply in the wrong place! Drat it!!
As long as it’s an open thread, may I ask what the reaction is to the apparent self-immolation of the Colorado Republicans yesterday?
From here it seems the Republicans; in an effort to prevent civil unions (and by extension gay marriage) the Republicans sacrificed several bills and gave their opponents ammunition to brand them as intolerant/anti-gay-rights/homophobic/hypocritical.
Why didn’t they let the civil union legislation run its course and if supported by the majority of legislators, pass?
Regardless of your beliefs regarding “gay marriage” I can justify civil unions as the same-different and distinct; nothing more than a legal contract between consenting adults that gives the participants all the rights and protections of a marriage without stealing the definition from the institution itself.
To my way of thinking, this allows the government to stay within their constraints, and church or societal norms within theirs. Why are the Republicans in Colorado so willing to give the away argument to the opponents of traditional marriage by acting as petulant children?
homosexuality is a pathology, an un-natural act.
by re-affirming marriage as by one man to one woman is not anti anything, and who cares what some perverts “brand” you,?
that is so alinsky 101.
I brand them perverts and psychopaths do you think they care?
good
Neither do I
🙂
PS
there is NO such thing as “HOMOPHOBIC” is is a made up wet dream load of crap of the left to stop dissension against their perversion.
do what ever you want behind CLOSED DOORS, bring it to the square of public opinion then accept the consequences, if it is rejected by the general population then so be it.
Neo,
Although many words and pejoratives are also “made up” when placed in common usage they become effective weapons. It’s much easier for someone to wag a finger and say “homophobic” than it is to say “I’m not ‘homophobic’ because the word technically means an unreasoning fear of homosexuals’ and is used purely as a clinical diagnosis in its proper form whereas I have no fear of the homosexuals per se, I do not approve of their lifestyle choices and believe those choices to be in conflict with my persona and religious dogma and am therefore, ”Pro Traditional Marriage as it has been defined since the dawn of civilization” and see no need to re-define an institution to favor those that reject the basic tenants of that institution.”
Now, as to Colorado; they obviously want to reject “Gay Marriage” as do their citizens, and they recognize that “Civil Unions” are the first incremental step toward recognition of the long-term state of homosexual relationships, BUT, the duties, rights, responsibilities and privileges of marriage are societal as well as religious. Because many of these are within the purview of government (taxation, transfer of assets, legal representation and assumption of obligation, there should be a contractual method for persons in common union to guarantee the same legal status.
As a conservative, I find anything less from a government is tyranny of the majority.
Fight the “Gay Marriage” battle on the merits, and not on legal grounds.
Regardless, this is an unnecessary wedge issue which will turn Colorado Blue for a generation.
do what ever you want behind CLOSED DOORS, bring it to the square of public opinion then accept the consequences, if it is rejected by the general population then so be it.
We say the same thing about your religion. Keep it out of the public sphere and close in your hearts.
mordumbo pain arf AMF, tweet tweet
and your atheism, and your racism, and your ageism, and your Fn lunacy as a forker………
do I hear an AMEN BROTHER???
jimmah
who?
you mean when black thug tra von committed FELONY AGGRIVATED BATTERY on Hispanic “Jorge”, (pronounced HOHR-hay.) and was shot in self defense?
yeah, how is that witch hunt by racist mobs coming?
count
Fight the “Gay Marriage” battle on the merits, and not on legal grounds.
Regardless, this is an unnecessary wedge issue which will turn Colorado Blue for a generation.
The libs have found to fundamentally change America they use the courts and legislation to push their agendas. Once it is law it is impossible to change back, RVW is a perfect example NO one predicted it would turn into a blood bath that dwarfs the Holocaust with more than 55 MILLION babies slaughtered.
So it will be if a moral stand is not taken on the gay issues. They are not fighting for a legal standard for tax purposes, that is the faint, they DEMAND full inclusion into every nook and cranny of America including private corporations, boy scouts, schools, and even our churches.
let them turn blue green gray what ever in colorado there are those of us who will never let them fundamentally change America into the toilet of a cess pool they want.
I have no gripe with the individuals, I hate the agenda……
The major pain brags that she “..exist to serve Sentience and defend against the evils of Theocracy. ”
But she also seems to define “sentience” as emotion-based allegiance to a system she cannot define or defend, as emotion-based opposition to all she feels represent another system she cannot define, and as a belief in being part of an often-born (hatched?) particle of a starborn entity, while she lives in Hell as a demon.
And she seems to define “theocracy” as the belief in a Higher Power, not accurately as government controlled by a specific religion.
In other words, no credibility at all……
“…defend against the evils of Theocracy”
As long as he does not have to defend against a Muslim Theocracy. He has no problems with them.
The North Carolina results show that opposition to gay marriage is the solid, majority American opinion. As marriage is not a right (and neither does anyone have a right to have sex), it isn’t a matter of rights..and the American people do not wish to extend the privileges and immunities of marriage to same sex couples. Period.
The clear majority of American voters felt the same way about miscegenation, too.
Should we re-criminalize that, as there is no right to marriage or sex, should the good American people wish it?
Bozo,
I doubt you can find a time in American history where 42 States voted by popular referendum to ban inter-racial marriage. Its just not the same.
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Spook, Lugar’s reputation and legacy remain intact. As a former resident of Indiana, with many friends and relatives living there, I saw Lugar as somewhat of a national treasure. He’s an intellectual, he’s a foreign-policy expert who reduced nuclear weapons worldwide and promoted democracy in Latin America and Africa. His accomplishments internationally and for his fellow Americans made the world a safer and better place, and didn’t come from an obsession on shrinking government or serving just one or two terms. He was (past tense) respected for his ability to work with colleagues on both sides of the aisle. That still is a trait that helps get things done, but has become a liability in the current GOP.
Meanwhile Mourdock has characterized the main issue facing America today as a contest between people who say “I want your stuff” and those who say “you can’t have my stuff”. An astonishingly reductionist and simple-minded view that diminishes the concept of statesmanship to a sandbox squabble over personal property. There is no “Second American Revolution,” as I’ve seen referenced on this blog. There is a great contraction, a massive shriveling of the American vision. It’s a sign of how narrow the right has become that pinch-minded candidates like Richard Mourdock are preferred over statesmen like Richard Lugar. Responsible adults are exiting the Republican party one by one, and it’s a tragedy.
Of course Mourdock may lose in the general, but if the Tea Party has its way there will only be memories left of the real statesmen of both parties who once walked the halls of the Senate. Realists like Lugar, Chuck Hagel, George Voinovich and Olympia Snowe are not tolerated well by the current Republican mindset. Each of them has spoken eloquently to the same crisis in their party. If it prevails, I predict the Tea Party’s principal legacy will be an America of greatly reduced effectiveness both geopolitically and in meeting the needs of its own.
Lengthy, eloquent piece in the Indy Star by Richard Lugar after his loss last night. It has much in common with Olympia Snowe’s statement on why she’s not seeking another term. The small-minded will dismiss it as sour grapes, wise minds will ponder it:
dennistooge
I saw Lugar as somewhat of a national treasure.
of course YOU did.
Moron 101
Neo, don’t run em off!! We need the wailing and the teeth gnashing!! I am enjoying it. Hopefully the rest of our libbies will show up and tell us how bad it is we dumped Lugar.
Wingnuts!wingnuts!wingnuts!
dennistooge
“we will be relegated to minority status. Parties don’t succeed for long if they stop appealing to voters who may disagree with them on some issues.”
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Physician heal thy self
A certain question has arisen relatively often during this discussion period: “What is the difference between the Communist Party USA and Democrats?” Superficially, that is a good question, superficially: the CPUSA has worked to get Democrats elected, fought for health care reform with the public option, and embraced most of what organized labor has been doing.
Unfortunately, the aforementioned question is often asked rhetorically, so that the person asking can go on to say that our main contribution has to be to introduce the ideas of Marxism and of socialism, or that we should protest or condemn “the other party of capitalism.”
But if we were to fully embrace that strategy, we could then ask, “What’s the difference between the Communist Party USA and the Workers World Party (or any number of the myriad socialist groups, which actually are hard to tell apart from each other).
Not gettin’ any whinin’ from this librul. Glad Lugar’s gone. I just hope Mourdock is not a witch…
Bozo,
Here’s Mourdock’s victory speech from Tuesday night. Doesn’t sound like a witch.
He was (past tense) respected for his ability to work with colleagues on both sides of the aisle. That still is a trait that helps get things done, but has become a liability in the current GOP.
Dennis, please name the democrats that have worked across the aisle with Paul Ryan. And why isn’t that considered a liability?
GMB
John “effing” Kerry calls the Lugar loss a “tragedy”
when is the “tragedy” of ridding our selves of this POS JFnK going to come about?
the sooner the better ….retire him to N.Viet Nam with his people.
Steve Israel (D) (H.RES.302)? That’s a tough one, because NO ONE co-sponsored 6 out of 8 pieces of work Ryan presented. Even Republicans think he’s toxic to support in writing.
Responsible adults are exiting the Republican party one by one, and it’s a tragedy. – dennis
Are you paying attention dennis? November 2010 saw HUGE republican gains not only in Washington, but in nearly every state, and just yesterday Walker in Wisconsin received more votes than all the democrats combined.
Come back to reality dennis – we miss you
“Come back to reality dennis – we miss you”
No we don’t! No we don’t!! Please oh please keep living in the land of skittle farting unicorns Please do!!
We all need a laugh or two and dennis does provide that. He is such a concerned person when it comes to failings of conservatives that we might never know when we get it wrong if he were not around.
We should thank him and encourage him in his lifes work. 😉
dennistooge
YOUR party
Sam Webb on May Day and Class Struggle Toda
by: Sam Webb
02.May.12
Communist Party Chair Sam Webb is interviewed on RT television on May Day 2012. He discusses the modern relevance of May Day, the Occupy movement and the class struggle in the U.S….
do I hear DEMOC-RAT party denny boy?
how is killer tiller’s collection basket job coming wolf?
NC votes to ban gay marriage…( that is a LIE, the vote was to DEFINE marriage as 1 man 1 woman NOTHING in the bill about “gay marriage” )
Civil unions bill killed in Colo statehouse…
Tempers flare: ‘I hope you f***ing die!’
Cluster: “please name the democrats that have worked across the aisle with Paul Ryan.”
Ryan’s idea of compromise is for other people to do things his way. You can only work with someone with a reciprocal attitude of cooperation. Democrats have compromised on plenty of Republican demands. However I’m not aware of Ryan’s willingness to approach deficit reduction through a combined approach of cutting spending and raising revenue through a more progressive tax schedule, or allowing the Bush tax cuts to sunset.
Anyone signed on to Norquist’s pledge has essentially declared themselves closed to compromise – the Republican adults I named above (Lugar, Snowe, Hagel etc) have said essentially the same things I’m saying here. Really sorry you regard them as cheap entertainment, Spook. It’s not revolutionary or “leftist” thinking – it used to be called “moderate” but you’ve moved so far right you’d call the real-life Reagan a RINO if he were here. The Reagan venerated by the right now is just a mythical figure. That’s funny too, no?
And sorry about your reading comprehension problem Cluster, but I said “responsible adults are exiting the Republican party.” What they’re being replaced with is not more of the same. In the example of Indiana you have Lugar, a responsible adult, being replaced by Mourdock, who calls the defining issue of the times a contest between people who say “I want your stuff” and those who say “you can’t have my stuff”. That’s a kindergarten grasp of reality. Be careful what you hope for.
Dennis,
So again, compromising is when republicans bend to the liberal agenda. Thank you for confirming that. Ryan’s budget actually is revenue neutral from the beginning and then based on projected growth, which is historically proven with these policies, the tax base broadens and federal revenue increases – without raising taxes. I thought liberals wanted to increase federal revenues, so it would seem to me that there is some compromise to be had. Too bad Harry Reid won’t even bring it to the floor. Question Dennis, how does one reach compromise when one party won’t even acknowledge the other?
You are laughably out of touch Dennis, and your posts are a good reminder for all conservatives why it’s so important to defeat people like you.
Ahhh, more of denny’s “Democrats good, Republicans bad” pathetic and whining meme.
obAMATEUR has always grandstanded in front of the camera with his way or no way attitude. This has happened with several budgets, the pipeline, etc. etc.
Denny stick with photography and stained glass – pretending not to be a hack is way above your ability.
cluster, denny doesn’t understand what a RINO is.
His regurgitation of the “republicans for obama” theme is too complicated for him to understand that these people are really RINOs and not defectors as he thinks.
You’re cheap entertainment, Dennis; I’ll give you that.
“An astonishingly reductionist and simple-minded view that diminishes the concept of statesmanship to a sandbox squabble over personal property… but which really only accurately describes your fluffy and superficial view of politics.
You know—politics, that word you claim has nothing to do with ideology.
Dennis,
The problem with Lugar – aside from the absurdity of someone actually thinking that a 7th term in the Senate is best for anyone – is that he, like those other “heroes” of yours, did not, does not and likely never will recognize that we, as a nation, are in an existential crisis. Its the spring of 1864 and the winter of 1777 all over again – our nation is in danger of complete collapse. Not just an economic crisis, but a crisis which could lead to the break up of the nation. Think about it – 5 years from now, why should North Dakota allow its wealth in mining, farming and ranching to be taxed away so that illegals can continue to receive in-State tuition in California? We’re just a few years away from an economic brick wall in which the accumulated debt of the United States will become far more than we can ever repay…and far more than those who create wealth will be willing to sacrifice so that the welfare State won’t have to pare itself back.
People like Lugar just don’t see it – either out of folly or sheer bloody-mindedness (given Lugar’s reputation for good manners, I believe it would be mere folly on his part). Lugar, in the Senate, would never agree to any proposal which would actually reform the way we do business. Its just not in him…too many of his good friends in the Ruling Class would be offended and so, at most, Lugar would agree to tinker around the edges while the nation goes over the cliff.
We are now faced with a stark choice for the survival or destruction of our nation. On one side are those who have benefited from things as they are, on the other are those who are being forced in to bankruptcy…the fight is on and if we don’t elect enough people like Mourdock, then our nation’s story is shortly done.
California pays out way more than it takes in from North Dakota.
But, I agree. We may be heading for civil war, if the GOP doesn’t get their “way” this November.
Bozo,
Your link, published by People for the American Way has such a nice Mom, Hotdogs and Apple pie ring to it.
I suspect there’s a good chance we may have a break out of violence when Obama gets his a$$ handed to him in November, but, as it’s been the Left who has largely owned violence as a political tactic over the last half century, I’m pretty sure it won’t be Conservatives who start it. I am pretty sure, though, that it will be Conservatives who end it.
Meanwhile, the GOP did Not call for Civil War if it “does not get their way” creepy lying assclown.
Bozo,
California’s tax receipts to the federal government, like New York’s, are inflated by the fact that California has three major, international ports … the transshipment of goods through those ports provides a huge spike the amount of tax dollars the State remits to Uncle Sam. Take that away, though (and California, as a government, has zero to do with the lucky fact of having ports) and California probably takes more in federal spending than it gives back in taxes.
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Who cares Lugar lost? Indiana wasn’t going to elect a democratic senator anyway, and its going to vote for the Republican candidate come November. who cares? A small electoral state with a population the size of a large city…
Congrats to Mourdock, I am sure he will step right in line with McConnell once he gets in the Senate. That’s how they all are…bluster outside the senate….obedience to leadership in it.
I see Sassy is back on that lame “superiority by zip code” nonsense again.
But then, the impotent and highly unlikable Persian can’t possibly claim superiority by intellect or personality or accomplishment, so all he has left is how much money he claims to make (which he admits he thinks makes him better than others) and the zip code of his lower middle class condo.
Awwww
If Lugar had won, it would be touted as a huge victory for “moderate” voters, and a massive defeat for Conservatism as a whole.
But since he lost, well, the election is meaningless, nothing to see here, just keep moving……
The PL trolls aren’t even amusing any more, they are so predictable and so tiresome.
Please assure the left wing that the Tea Party is dead. We mean nothing and can not affect anything. The left wing can go back to sleep. The Lugar loss is is just a fluke caused by sunspots or warm weather or something else. The same goes for the Susan Brook win. Everyone knows that the right wing is doing the “War on Women” (TM) so her win is also just a fluke.
Rest well liberals until mid November and read the World Socialist Web site for your news.
Again, who cares about indiana? how many electoral votes does indiana have? lugar lost….he was 80 years old anyway, he had maybe one more term in him. great job kicking out an 80 year old incumbent.
seriously, you need to get a grip, it’s not a big deal, and its not meaningless…its somewhere in the middle.
This is actually good news James. More more the TEA Party influences the GOP the more and more out of touch they become with moderates who decide elections.
Major,
You might want to read this and reconsider how “out of touch” conservatives are with moderates
The former Massachusetts governor has opened up a 10-point lead, 48 percent to 38 percent, among independents in a poll conducted Sunday, April 29
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0512/75973.html#ixzz1uPREAaOv
More more the TEA Party influences the GOP the more and more out of touch they become with moderates who decide elections.
Major, you mean like the Tea-Party driven 2010 election that resulted in a pick up of 6 Senate seats, 63 House seats and nearly 700 state legislature seats — a shift in power of historical proportions not seen in over 3 generations. You Lefties are a hoot!
majordumbo
but the donks now being 90% communist plays real well with the indys?
where in red china?
PS
there are NO mysterious independents…….just 47% of Americans who are looters and takers voting for OPM
and a few liberal loons with white guilt.
makes it an even race,
then the donks step on the scales with ACORN, felons, illegals, dead, fraud, thugs with night sticks,and ola we have a marxist, kenyan, muslim, usurper in the wh on vacation 99% of the time murdering our economy.
“great job kicking out an 80 year old incumbent”
Waaa waaa waaa bleats “James”, the vicious bitter ageist who is suddenly outraged at the defeat of an 80 year old man.
But for one who doesn’t think ideology matters in politics, all he is left with is age, personality, scandal, and the other superficial fluff and foam that make up what passes for PS political understanding.
On the other hand the mindless petty viciousness and despicable nature of the Lugar campaign probably DID endear him to “James”, being the very stuff that “James” wallows in and tries to pass off as political commentary.
I just like the play on words with this title from RedState;
Indiana Hocks a Lugar
This just in – Obama has finally evolved and now endorses same sex marriage
Not a big issue for me, I believe it’s a state issue, but this wont help him in the general
Why is it when Romney changes his view, it’s a flip flop, but when Obama changes his view it’s “evolving”?
This shift by Obama certainly takes the “flip flop” issue off the table
spook
that is in their bible rules for radicals – playbook……they make the rules, then change them for them selves and mock you for going by their old rules.
easy……
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4616742512166759&id=f4d8b2a230dda364278a21752622b079
“This shift by Obama certainly takes the “flip flop” issue off the table”
Sorry, but no it doesn’t.
They have no problem being hypocrites, and the Sycophantic Media will never call them on it.
you nailed it count
Actually, Obama’s statement parses words to a truly Clintonesque degree.
He PERSONALLY thinks gay “marriage” is fine, but he also thinks this is a state issue, giving him a wide stance on the topic.
Now to see if he is tapping his toes……
So he voted “Present”?
Pretty much. He made some noise that might make the casual listener think he is supporting gay “marriage” but in reality he is not, is not offering any official support or even private support, just said that on a personal level he thinks it’s OK—but it is up to the states to make their own laws.
Oh the tragedy! Oh the humanity!! Where are the adults in the room!! Won’t somebody please think of the children!!
Think of that mone that public service unions are wasting in Wisconsin. That money could go to help this countrys homless. You libbies remember the homeless right? I mean after Jan 20 2009 they sort of disappeared. Wonder why?
GMB
they are in the same closet as our daily body counts and number of war dead reporter a zillion times a day.
Isn’t Sassy “James” in that closet, too?
NAACP President: Laws That Ban Felons From Voting or Require ID Are ‘Jim Crow’ Laws
“We’re actually still dealing with Jim Crow voter suppression laws.”
more lunatic lefty laws, they are scared to death of voter ID, they would never “win” another election here again if they cant have massive fraud.
New Black Panther Leader Shabbaz:
Whites Will Be ‘Very, Very, Very Angry’ in November…Will Cling to ‘Their God and Their Guns’ — ‘We Might Have To, Too
BRING it………she bop bazzzzz
Isn’t Sassy “James” in that closet, too?
sassy, barry, bwany…..a closet trifecta,
or was that a limo?
Here is the tale of 2012: In the North Carolina Democrat primary, nearly 21% of the Democrat electorate opted for “No Preference”. That works out to nearly 200,000 votes. Obama won the State by something like 14,000 in 2012. He’s toast in that State…and he’s going to be toast in November, overall.
dennistooge
and I would be a voice in the Republican party to foster anti-discrimination efforts.”
Keep your perversion out of my party……..”anti discrimination”? what a pant load.
Here’s your guy Romney once upon a time – has he evolved or regressed?
“My mom was a U.S. Senate candidate in 1970, before Roe v. Wade. My church feels that abortion is not a good choice. However, my mother advocated for the legalization of abortion. So they, like I, can live by and have personal beliefs which celebrate the diversity of our society, and fight for the right of all people to live by their own beliefs and to make their own choices. Their example and my experience is one of showing respect and tolerance for all others… When I speak of free agency, I don’t just mean that each person can do what they want to do, I mean that our society should allow people the freedom to make their own choices and live by their own beliefs. People of integrity don’t force their beliefs on others, they make sure that others can live by different beliefs they may have.”
“[My father] walked out of the Republican National Convention in 1964, when Barry Goldwater said, ‘Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.’ Because he saw that as a tacit approval of the effort the John Birch Society was making to influence the Republican party. I think that extremists who would force their views on the party and try to shape the party are making a mistake.”
“There’s something to be said for having a Republican who supports civil rights in this broader context, including sexual orientation… I think the gay community needs more support from the Republican party and I would be a voice in the Republican party to foster anti-discrimination efforts.”
http://www.baywindows.com/romney-ill-be-better-than-ted-for-gay-rights-53688
One good thing about Mitt. Mitt did not launch his political carreer in the home of a couple of self admitted terrorists. Another good thing about Mitt. He is not using his kids as a prop for an election campaign.
The times are changing. Conservatives are getting to point that we do not want our elected represenatives to work with you donkys for the furtherance of the progressive cause. Get used to it.
Go get a job. Go catch your own fish. Go bake your own pies. Quit livi expecting to live of the labor of others.
If that is extremeism, then lets have some more of it. .
Deal! And you conservativistas stay out of my wife and daughter’s uterus. Oh, and pay your own damn taxes on all that church property. And stay off our highways. And don’t call our fire departments if your house is burning down. Oh yeah, or our police department when you’re getting beaten. Pay your own damn kid’s grammar school tuition.
When you retire: NO MEDICARE for you. Get your own damn insurance (good luck with that at age 67). And all you conservatives who supported the Iraq war while calling me a traitor for opposing it: YOU PAY FOR IT. Quit expecting liberals to pay for YOUR follies. You want cheap gas? Don’t expect ME to subsidize YOUR big oil addiction with my tax dollars. You wanna endanger my drinking water with your tar sands pipeline? Go Cheney yourself.
I’d say let’s have more of that, but, honestly, when your child is hurt, or your house is burning, or your wife is getting mugged, or you get old and need medicine, we’ll do what we can, despite a lifetime of belligerent animosity towards us.
That’s what Jesus would do.
Bozo,
My, aren’t WE bitter this morning. What’s the matter — some one pee in your corn flakes?
Most Conservatives don’t have a a problem with funding government activities that are authorized by the Constitution. It’s all all this other crap that we object to. But, of course, you knew that, didn’t you?
The problem with letting Progressives bankrupt the country in the name of fairness, is that, sooner or later………….well — you’re a smart guy; I’ll let you fill in the blank.
Bozo,
Are you again implying that conservatives support the absence of government? C’mon now, we’ve been over this and I thought your retention skills had improved. Maybe not.
Re: your daughters uterus – when she expects me to pay for her decisions, why shouldn’t I have a say in it? Please answer that, I have always been curious as to why liberals just expect others to pay for their needs but yet are offended of those requested funds come with some conditions. That’s a spoiled child syndrome.
Now let’s talk about Obama’s “evolution” – does anyone really believe that Obama “evolved” on this issue? Rather than just finally admit that he’s been lying all this time? The liberal media is falling all over themselves over this historic event and MSNBC actually admitted this morning that the entire “media” is behind him on this issue which I thought was a terrific Freudian slip. what issue isn’t the media behind Obama on? However, Amazona is right, when you actually listen to what he said, he kind of voted “present”. But nevertheless, knowing that NC just voted down the gay marriage issue by over 60%, and that the issue has lost 30 out of 31 times, I would say that Obama has disappointed a lot of people yet again. And yet the media, chiefly MSNBC which is better than the comedy channel, are calling republicans extreme (their favorite word) which simply ignores reality.
2012 is turning out to be a really fun year.
Dennis,
I am quite sure that 99% of conservatives fully support the full complement of civil rights for gay couples as does Mitt, but that doesn’t include the right to hijack the term marriage, which is an institution older than government. The clear majority of Americans have spoken on this issue, so it’s easy to see that the liberal position is extremist.
If you could just dial down the emotion and apply some common sense, we could all come to a resolution that would “celebrate” their chosen life style, rather than forcing themselves on others. Why isn’t that an option.
This just in – Obama had previously “evolved” in 2004:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/my-behalf_644310.html
Oh this is going to be a fun week!!
Yeah, freakzo has never been restrained by the truth—-wayyyyy too confining, not “flexible” enough. He and his kind, too enthralled by the prospect of validating their pathology by being able to pretend its expression is really political commentary, will continue to do so, even when doing so means strutting their stupidity and spotlighting their seething rage and hostility.
It’s kind of funny, in a weird and pathetic way, to see their desperate need to spew vitriol override what even freaky has to know, deep down—that not only do Conservatives believe in government and really only concentrate on implementing the Constitutional restrictions on the size, scope and power of the FEDERAL government, but that most of the services he is squealing about in his feigned outrage are state and local in nature.
At least for now. Obama hasn’t, as far as I know, gotten his federal police force (security force as large and powerful as the military) up and running yet.
BTW, the RRL spinmeister who came up with that creepy theme of staying out of a woman’s uterus ought to be shot. Yecchhh. While yet another creepy and unwanted peek into a creepy psyche, it is still, well, creepy.
He sure managed to squeeze in quite a litany of PL whines, didn’t he? “Go Cheney yourself?” titter titter tee hee.
Gee, reading freakzo is just like listening to his idol, Bill Maher, the crown prince of vile vitriolic hate-spewing.
Amazing!!! You just completely skip over everything that doesn’t fit your hardened cognitive categories, don’t you? I wrote three paragraphs and a tag line, but you just didn’t read the third paragraph at all.
Duly noted.
“hardened cognitive categories”?
You really are a hoot.
But yes, I did read that third paragraph that you seem to think would somehow change the impression of your post.
Let’s take a look at it, shall we?
“I’d say let’s have more of that, but, honestly, when your child is hurt, or your house is burning, or your wife is getting mugged, or you get old and need medicine, we’ll do what we can, despite a lifetime of belligerent animosity towards us.”
OK, you seem to be gloating over some future emergency in which the federal government will not be in a position to step in if my child is hurt, or my house is burning, or my spouse is getting mugged, or I get old and need medicine. That pretty much sum up that part of this oh-so-impressive third paragraph?
But you see, there are a couple of problems with that whine.
One is that expecting the federal government to do any of these things is just plain stupid. None of them are delegated duties of the federal government, all of them are allowed to state and local governments, and therefore according to the 10th Amendment each of them is ILLEGAL, constitutionally, if a strict adherence to what the Constitution actually says makes any difference.
Another is that nearly all of these situations are already covered by the appropriate state and local governments. The last one IS, now, taken on by the feds, but this is the only area where the feds are involved now, and would be involved even under the most lavish expansion of federal size, scope and power dreamed of by any Liberal.
Or do you really think there is, or should be, a NATIONAL 911-type number, so someone in DC can dispatch an ambulance, a fire truck or a police car?
I know, I know, what you are doing is trying out that old RRL/PL lie that conservatives do not want any government at all. Or maybe you are not lying,, but are truly clueless about the difference between federal and local government duties and responsibilities.
Trying to make sense of your rants always seems to lead into the weeds of nonsense and inconsistency, like this, but sometimes it’s fun to point them out.
And I hope you recover soon, as you must have dislocated your shoulder, patting yourself on the back for being part of the “we” that you expect to ride to the rescue of the weak, dependent, impoverished, helpless, wards of the State you envision as Americans.
How about a peek into MY America of the future? Ambulances, fire trucks, and police will still be handled by local governments. An economic policy based on opportunity and meritocracy will mean that more people will be able to plan ahead for their future needs as older and possibly sick citizens, and a less-regulated free market system will make insurance affordable for more people. Personal dignity and pride in independence and personal responsibility will replace the clinging, helpless, utterly dependent person in your scenario, and state and local governments will be able to provide true safety nets, as opposed to cradle-to-grave subsistence, for those who truly need it.
In other words, it is a vision that must bring chills to the hearts of you Libs.
Dennis,
It doesn’t matter – it is immaterial, at this point. What is set to kill our Republic is our debt. Romney may prove to have the intellect and the guts to do something about it, Obama has proven conclusively that has neither. At any event, the coming blow-out GOP victory in November will result in an even more conservative House combined with the most conservative GOP Senate, ever. That will be enough to keep Romney’s policies up to scratch, while the fear of a “TEA Party” primary challenger in 2016 will keep him from straying to the left. It is after 2016 that we’ll start to have trouble with Romney…but if by that point Romney has reformed our government to spare us from collapse, we’ll happily deal with him starting to “evolve” in his second term…and then just wait for Santorum, ’20.
Lets see here bozo. Great reply there first. Think much at all with it?
I,ll stay out of your daughters bedroom the minute you keep my tax dollars out of it..
Everytime I put gasoline in my vehicle I am paying to use the highways.
Every year I pay property tax to fund local fire and police services. If I don’t the “government” will take my property away.
You are loosing it. What did you do, invest in solar energy companys and lose your shirt?
Nah, GMB. freakzo’s rants never have any relationship to reality. He just likes to emulate his hero, Bill Maher, and thinks it cute and clever to come up with as many nasty comments as he can, with no concern about their relevance or truth. His only criterion is that they be as spiteful and vicious as he can make them. And, like his hero, “comedian” Maher (who is living proof that to the PL, one does not have to be funny to label himself a “comedian) he tries to make his snarls funny.
Funny to him and people like him, maybe, but they are thin on the ground and have no more cred that he does. Or snotmiester Maher.
cluster said, “I am quite sure that 99% of conservatives fully support the full complement of civil rights for gay couples as does Mitt, but that doesn’t include the right to hijack the term marriage, which is an institution older than government. The clear majority of Americans have spoken on this issue, so it’s easy to see that the liberal position is extremist.”
I don’t think so. North Carolina already banned marriage between persons of the same sex, yet felt the need to pass Amendment One banning any kind of formal relationship between persons of the same sex, including civil unions. It puts the lie to the notion that this is merely about the term marriage, and exposes conservatives for what they really are.
bozo said, “When you retire: NO MEDICARE for you. Get your own damn insurance (good luck with that at age 67).”
Exactly right. You are hypocrites when it comes to federal social programs such as Medicare, which you all partake in. For you guys, federal programs that support your lifestyle are good. Federal programs that support someone else’s lifestyle are bad.
Amy said, “Nah, GMB. freakzo’s rants never have any relationship to reality.”
More name calling from the high and mighty Amazona. Some things never change.
watson,
you are again assuming that conservatives support the absence of government, so please discard that cartoonish notion. Everyone pays into medicare throughout their working life, so why shouldn’t they receive those benefits? And if you think just a little bit, instead of emoting, you’d realize that Paul Ryan’s budget calls for reforming and making the program more sustainable so it’s their for future generations. It’s only liberals who evidently want the system to go bankrupt.
And even Obama said that gay marriage is a state issue, so how about if you just let the people of NC decide what they want? Is that too difficult? Or do you want to impose your beliefs on everyone?
Waddy,
Straw man much?
North Carolina is evenly distributed Democrat/Republican and went for Obama in 2008. Blacks (liberal and Democrat) supported the measure by 2:1
I have private insurance, will have upon retirement, and even if I hadn’t made such plans, have paid into Social Security for more than 40 years. It is you waddy sucking at the teat my labors provide that should … what was it? get your own damn insurance and everything else you’ve been stealing from the public treasury!
And watson, re: bozo’s statement to “stay out of his daughter’s uterus” – don’t you think that when his daughter requests my money to be used to “take care” of her uterus, that I should have some say? I think so. If she wants to pay for it herself, well then she can do what she wants. Your thoughts.
Go get em Mitt:
On Wednesday, when he was barraged with questions about such earth-shattering issues as legalizing marijuana and in-state tuition for the children of illegal immigrants, Romney scolded his interviewer, “Aren’t there issues of significance that you’d like to talk about? The economy? The growth of jobs? The need to put people back to work? The challenges of Iran?”
Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2012/05/10/romney-scolds-reporter-arent-there-important-issues-youd-talk-about-e#ixzz1uU35YLLH
Watson, once again, has spewed the standard RRL talking points. Being a Constitution Conservative but voting Libertarian in NC, I voted against the amendment as did most conservatives I know here did. I do not believe government has any business in this and many other issues. It was the Democrats, who also did not punch the ticket for “the One”, who tilted the scales. Look at the actual demographics and where the amendment passed and failed before you claim to know anything about this issue.
It has also been pointed out that all them programs like MediCare, MedicAid, SS, etc are forced onto everyone at the end of a gun–I have no say so into whether they take that money out of my paycheck or whether I pay it on my small business–it is MANDATORY unless you think a visit from the State and or Federal government is a ‘fun thing.’
I have also stated that if the Federal government would kindly return every penny I was forced to contribute, even without interest, and refrain from taking more that I would have no problem “Opting Out” of their wonderful system for the rest of my life. There are many more like me than you think but the government won’t because their Ponzi scheme has become their favorite slush fund–can not stop the gravy train for Congress Critters now.
dbschmidt said, “Watson, once again, has spewed the standard RRL talking points. Being a Constitution Conservative but voting Libertarian in NC, I voted against the amendment as did most conservatives I know here did.”
Thanks for your comment, db, but you’re just wrong. According to a poll conducted by Public Policy Polling shortly before the vote, only 21% of Republicans opposed the amendment. I guess you only know conservatives in the 21%. I don’t know many conservatives who are Democrats. Maybe you do.
In addition, when the actual intent of the amendment was explained to voters, it shifted their views because they didn’t actually understand it. “The reason this message has an impact is that 55% of these primary voters want same-sex couples to at least have the same legal rights as married heterosexual couples, if not full marriage equality. That includes 67% of Democrats, 60% of independents, and even 35% of Republicans.”
That is, North Carolina Democrats favor the same legal rights for same-sex couples as heterosexual couples by a 2-1 margin over Republicans.
Watson,
You evidently have a problem with democracy, where a majority determines issues like this. Why should the minority have the right to impose their beliefs? The beauty about our republic is that if the gays in NC don’t like the decision, they can move to another state that is more accommodating. Isn’t that neat?
Obama has finally evolved to Dick Cheney’s position, and a lot of conservatives position:
Former vice president Richard Cheney waded into another simmering public debate today, suggesting he supports legalizing gay marriage as long as the issue is decided by the states rather than the federal government. –
Why is Obama so slow to coming around on this issue? And why do liberals think this is such a big thing? Watson, any thoughts?
cluster, I didn’t say the minority should have the right to impose their beliefs on the majority. I said, “North Carolina already banned marriage between persons of the same sex, yet felt the need to pass Amendment One banning any kind of formal relationship between persons of the same sex, including civil unions. It puts the lie to the notion that this is merely about the term marriage, and exposes conservatives for what they really are.”
Is that not clear enough for you? It’s not about hijacking the term “marriage,” as you suggest, since gays already couldn’t marry in North Carolina.
More accurate observations from the perceptive Amazona. Some things never change.
You evidently have a problem with democracy, where a majority determines issues like this.
Cluster, see: Jefferson’s Inagural Address; & tyranny of the majority.
watstooge
yet felt the need to pass Amendment One banning any kind of formal relationship between persons of the same sex, including civil unions. It puts the lie to the notion that this is merely about the term marriage, and exposes conservatives for what they really are.”
what a truck load of BS
the amendment merely stated MARRIAGE is ONE MAN, ONE WOMAN.………NO BAN, NO NOTHING but a one line definition.
PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!
waspstooge
exposes conservatives for what they really are.
yes God loving, family loving, Americans
but it does expose the left as perverted, B surfing psychopaths.
do you pitch or catch watty?
Is Amazona praising herself, or did someone forget to log out before posting a reply?
freakzo, it ain’t braggin’ if it’s true
It is true that so-called “Gay Marriage” is and has not been legally recognized in North Carolina for some time; the Amendment prevents a judge or panel from overturning the law by codifying it into the State’s Constitution which requires overturning the original law and the State’s Constitution.
Count, yes, but it did more. It added the following new section to the North Carolina state constitution:
So not only does it cause marriage of same sex couples to be considered invalid and not recognized by the state, but also civil unions. It’s not about hijacking the word “marriage,” as Cluster and other conservatives claim.
In any event, it will be looked upon in the future in much the same light as the North Carolina constitutional amendment prohibiting marriage between two persons of different races. Even the Republican state legislator, whose name I forget, admitted as much when it said it will be overturned in 20 years.
Oh, now, Count, dragging in facts like the difference between constitutional law and legislative law is only going to confuse such as the wattle, and the clown..
And it’s not as if they care anyway.
Their mantra is that objections to things like using the word “marriage” to define a formal homosexual relationship, or to the expense of expanding certain costly benefits, such as health insurance, to such couples, is really only HOMOPHOBIA.
It’s all part of the Alinsky process of isolating an opponent, and then demonizing and.or ridiculing the opponent, rather than engaging the opponent on actual issues.
And the eager recruits to the spite, hate and malice brigade of the RRL are the perfect cannon fodder to send out to do this. They not only don’t understand ideology, they don’t care, but boy do they love snarling and spitting at an Other and being allowed to feel that this is not a personality disorder but is actually political discourse.
Fine, wattle. Let the gay activists go back to the drawing table and present a bill which does not include the word “marriage” but is focused exclusively upon civil contracts also limited to two people.
But don’t hold your breath. The issue and will remain the use of the word “marriage”.
So what the wattle is quibbling about is the semantic difference between the phrases “domestic legal union” and “contracts with another private party”.
One is not recognized, one is constitutionally enshrined as a legal right. Why don;t you tell us the difference, and why a contract between two people which includes all the rights and privileges of marriage, but without the terminology, is so different from the status of “marriage” and/or “civil union”.
The only things I can see missing, other than that crucial word, is the ability to have a partner included in employer-paid health coverage, and tax benefits of a married couple vs two single people in the same household. So address those two issues.
Design a type of contract which can then be presented to the IRS as a version of head of household and dependent, and try to get that inserted into tax code. Your beloved state sponsored health care system ought to solve the insurance issue.
I suggest that such a contract between two homosexual people could be called “pairriage”. Simllar but different.
“Fine, wattle.” More name-calling from Amy, not to mention snarling and spitting.
I didn’t demonize or ridicule anyone, as you suggested–just pointed out that the North Carolina constitutional amendment goes beyond “marriage.” I’ve been pretty civil here, unlike you. But good to see you living up to your usual standards.
As for invoking Alinsky’s name, maybe you should ask Spook about that. Presumably he got his copy of Rules For Radicals from Dick Armey personally.
Amazona,
The term “domestic legal union” isn’t an accident; it describes a specific lawful status. The next section excludes legal contracts drawn up between private parties but those are the rights/responsibilities they parties have to one another and not rights or responsibilities third parties are obligated to honor.
In that respect, I believe (therefore I don’t know for sure and for certain) that the legislature failed to clearly state which will send this to the courts.
Amazona,
Maybe I could have made that clearer; you and I cannot draw up a “contract” that states insurance companies are obligated to give us a family rate, hospitals are obligated to allow you to visit me as “family” and the IRS is obligated to offer us “the married” rate on our Federal or State taxes.
mazona,
Nevermind, you already said that.
I suggest that such a contract between two homosexual people could be called “pairriage”. Simllar but different.
OR
Bunga Bunga
It puts the lie to the notion that this is merely about the term marriage, and exposes conservatives for what they really are.” – watson
No it doesn’t. It exposes who the people of NC are, and according to Obama – that is their right. Do you agree?
How uninformed can you be? Transvaginal Bob’s ultrasounds are mandatory even against doctor’s wishes, AND must be paid for by the patient to the tune of six to twelve hundred dollars. YOU’RE not paying for any of it.
How ya like them small government apples?
How can you rail against something you seem to know nothing about? Easy. Practice practice practice.
A transvaginal ultrasound is, basically, the decision of the gestational female intent on killing her inconvenient child. If she does not insist on killing her inconvenient child, and on doing so at a stage of the pregnancy where a transvaginal ultrasound is the only way to determine a heartbeat, then she is not exposed to the horror, the degredation, the agony, the terror, the misery, the unspeakable trauma, of a simple painless procedure undergone by hundreds of thousands of women every year.
No one sneaks up on a gestational creature intent on killing her inconvenient child and springs a transvaginal ultrasound on her, willy-nilly, with no advance notice that this procedure might be called for, and no publication of the critera for requiring the procedure to be done. It’s all out there, a matte of publicly recorded and published law.
And if the gestational creature doesn’t want a transvaginal ultrasound to be performed, she doesn’t have to go through with it. She can stroll out of the facility at will. She is not confined, she is not restrained, she is not compelled to undergo the procedure. She only faces it under a very specific condition: Her intent to kill her inconvenient child at that precise stage in the pregnancy.
Her choice.
And without the horror, the degredation, the agony, the terror, the misery, and the unspeakable trauma of this brutal procedure, of course her hoohaw would remain untouched, right?
Well, not really, as with or without it she will have it invaded to insert poison into her uterus to kill her inconvenient child, or a sharp blade inserted into her uterus to scrape out the inconvenient child, or a suction device to vacuum out the inconvenient child. Yes, she will voluntarily undergo any of these transvaginal procedures, in the pursuit of killing her inconvenient child, yet she has some bozo who has probably never been close to any kind of vaginal anything bleating like a mournful sheep about the most benign of all of them.
Hmmmm…a small inert ultrasound scanner, or poison, a scalpel, or a vacuum tool—-gee, which sounds less invasive and less dangerous? Perhaps the clown could calm himself down long enough to provide us with the data comparing the damage done to gestational creatures intent on killing their unborn children, due to the four transvaginal procedures I have listed—ultrasound scanner, poison, scalpel, or vacuum.
I’ll tell you what bozo. You get the government to refund to everyone the 1.45% of thier pay over thier lifetime to the people that want to opt out of medicare and you can have that program all to yourself.
Again another tax that we do not have the option of not paying is being used as some sort of “government” gift.
bozo, you are a advocate for the looting of others peoples wealth and using as YOU please.
What would Jesus do? Looks like bozo is trying to outdo dennis here.
The Middle east is on fire,
being taken over by radical islam, Russia is threatening us, N.Korea is threatening us, Iran is threatening us, Ubama is decimating our military, destroying our economy, They are killing Israel, killing our business infrastructure, starting a racial divide as never before, we have looters, anarchists, communists rampaging in our streets and we are arguing if two queers can butt surf and call it marriage?
They have deflected what they are REALLY doing and are playing us like a fiddle.
neoconehead,
let’s take this point by point. i know your post was a copy from someone else, but ill ask you to clarify anyway. you probably won’t, because you’re an unaware senior citizen, but here goes nothing…
The Middle east is on fire, being taken over by radical islam,
Really? which radicals you talking about?
Russia is threatening us
How is Russia threatening us? They haven’t done a thing? Explain further.
N.Korea is threatening us
North Korea can’t even feed its own people…and its ruled by a kid who looks like a dork. They aren’t threatening anything.
Iran is threatening us
Last I checked, Israel is threatening to attack Iran….until that is, Israel’s own leaders start to attack Netanyahu. Did you hear about the former head of Shin Bet? or Mossad? They both said Iran is a rational country with rational leaders and doesn’t pose an existential threat to Israel. So why don’t you just let the Israeli’s handle their own issues ? ok buddy?
Ubama is decimating our military
Really? had he cut the military budget? has he waged a long war with many casualties? Hmmm….you do know, his name is Obama….
destroying our economy,
something like 15 months of job growth, albeit a little slower than you’d like…and about a 3% economic growth….YEH! he really is destroying it!
They are killing Israel
This is a pure and simple LIE.
killing our business infrastructure
How is this happening? are you dreaming?
starting a racial divide as never before
That was George’s fault. Good try though.
we have looters, anarchists, communists rampaging in our streets
Maybe where you live, people “rampage” streets….where I live, its nice and quiet and kids play outside all the time.
and we are arguing if two queers can butt surf and call it marriage?
It’s not an argument, as long as they aren’t bothering you or me, I say let them do whatever they want and call it whatever they want.
jimmah former sasan
cut n paste?
as much BS as your so called “answers” = dumb, dumber. uninformed,and border line schizophrenic.
In other words one of your usual posts.
North Korea’s lastest threat.
http://news.yahoo.com/nkorean-military-warns-special-actions-soon-110332750.html;_ylt=Am1vQ.YnPU0aLmV8oAn6EdTyWed_;_ylu=X3oDMTFoNjRmYmZuBG1pdANCbG9nIEJvZHkEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQmxvZ0JvZHlUZW1wQXNzZW1ibHk-;_ylg=X3oDMTM1YjI4NmFuBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDMzhjNmZkYTEtNTE5ZC0zYTBiLWIzYTgtN2I1MjNmYmYxYjdhBHBzdGNhdANvcmlnaW5hbHN8dGhlZW52b3kEcHQDc3RvcnlwYWdl;_ylv=3
Russias latest threat.
http://www.nti.org/gsn/article/nato-calm-face-russian-threat-pre-emptive-military-action-against-missile-shield/
Radical Islam. I suppose none of these folks are considered radical by you but thats just the company you keep.
Muslim Brotherhood. Hamas. Hezbollah. Al -Queda various affiliates.
so the north making a threat of attack on the south koreans for the 10000th time in the past 10 years is now a threat on us?
really? you need to grow up and learn the definition of propaganda and tough talk.
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The russians make another bluster about the missile defense shield….and you call that a threat?
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Weekly if not dailey threats by the muslims in Iran to “wipe Israel off the map” Do your web search for more info there mr expert.
I think it was very sweet of “James” to fret that we might have forgotten wheat a delusional loon he is, and for him to take the time to outline some of the illustrations of that lunacy.
Thanks so much, “James”.
I particularly liked the part about NoKo not being a threat because their leader looks like a dork. So reassuring, that. Of course when someone else threatened to attack the United States and kill thousands of people, he did—and he looked like a smelly street person on speed. I remember a dorky looking guy—you might remember him, twitchy little thing, high-pitched voice, toothbrush mustache—who threatened to take over the world and kill all the Jews. Evidently the new rules are that you have to meet some standard of appearance to impress “James”.
And some George started the racial divide’s expansion. ??? King? Washington? Snuffleupagus? Clooney? Surely not Bush. But then, BDS does still rage through the brain cell of the average PL lemming, so who knows?
Remember, “James” is Iranian, and quite the little America-hater, Jew-hater, spite and malice machine. It would be pretty hard to qualify as radical compared to him.
barky has spent 6.3 trillion dollars more than he has taken in tax reciepts. He and his ilk are worried about Mitts atance on homosexual marraige and high school pranks.
Glad to know they have thier prioritys straight.
bozo, I would not reccomend google translate to translate correctly. Es ist mein Blog oder Ihren blog?
GMB
dont forget they are lazer focused on the Hispanic jorge, who shot the black thug tra von who was in the middle of a felonious battery upon jorge.
OH…and
JFnK was in VN
and
BARK killed OBL
New Black Panthers Giggle Planning Newspaper Cover With Zimmerman In A Noose
while the DOJ arrests WHITE “militia” members in Fla who were planning………………..are you ready???? AIEEEEEEEEEEE
a “disturbance” in front of an Orlando court house…….OMG the Horror…
DEMS MAY MOVE CONVENTION OUT OF NC?
AMF
why not move it the paradise of detroit or the shooting gallery of chi-cago,
Nancy Pelosi: My Catholic Faith ‘Compels’ Me to Support Same-Sex Marriage
lying, hypocrite, commie, rotten to the core democrat POS
may her and her filthy party pay an eternity of damnation for what they have brought on to America.
Psalm 109:8
barky has spent 6.3 trillion dollars more than he has taken in tax reciepts. He and his ilk are worried about Mitts atance on homosexual marraige and high school pranks. Glad to know they have their prioritys straight- GMBH
HILARIOUS!!!!!
GMB:
Ich war nicht mit dir zu reden.
Mitt Romney. College grade point average 3.97. Barky college grade point average 0.00.
Still wish some libbie would prove me wrong.
even better
an AA gay DOPER with a 0.00 gpa.
I don’t know what Obama’s GPA is. People don’t have to release their grades in order to be President.
When did Romney release his grades? I am just curious.
Ubama is an idiot face it. He is everything you ever accused GWB of being. Dumb as a box of rocks.
You can’t prove otherwise.
Any chance we could get you to immigrate back to iran?
jimmah
he does not have to “release” his grades, they are open record.
gmb,
you’re definitely the most idiotic person i have ever had the misfortune of speaking to on a blog. with that being said, you’re continuous misuse of words is hilarious…even after your buddy amazona told you the correct way to use a word, you still purposely use it WRONG!
on another note, I never said gwb was an idiot. His policies were idiotic, but he wasn’t. Someone who goes to Harvard, or Yale, isn’t an idiot.
You have this animosity toward the president that is unhealthy, i recommend you beat it and get lost Tim.
Also, why is your last name Davis?
“you’re definitely the most idiotic person i have ever had the misfortune of speaking to on a blog”
When you’re not talking to yourself, eh, “James”?
While on Planet Sassy, anyone who does not agree with you is an “idiotic person”, in real life disagreeing with you, seeing through your insanity and your hatred and your utterly stupid and bigoted commentary, is an excellent sign of both intelligence and mental health.
As for Barry being soooooo smart, prove it.
Let’s see—I’ll take a copy of any paper he wrote in college, and/or his grades from any of his colleges, as evidence of intelligence. Merely attending is not acceptable, not after the hysteria from the BDS/RRL Loon Brigade claiming that just because Bush graduated from both Yale and Harvard didn’t mean he was smart.
Nope, it will take actual records to establish that.
“James” you are an unending source of hilarity. I love this: “…, you’re continuous misuse of words is hilarious……”
In a rant against someone else, sneering at the misuse of words, you make the mistake of—you guessed it—-MISUSING A WORD!!!
“you’re” is a contraction, a combination of two words, “you” and “are”. So what you said was “you are continuous misuse of words…”
Too funny.
The word you don’t understand how to use is the possessive second person pronoun, “your”.
What you clearly do not understand is that when an apostrophe is used in a word that is not a possessive (the cat’s pajamas) it indicates that it is replacing a letter, or sometimes two, to make a contraction of two words.
you’re = you are
it’s = it is
don’t = do not
can’t = can not
So when you want to stick in an apostrophe, take a second to think about whether it is to indicate possession regarding anything but a pronoun (Bob’s toupee) or if it combines two words (it’s not very realistic). If it doesn’t (does not) meet either of these criteria, send it on its way (possessive pronoun—no apostrophe).
Ya gotta watch out for that rogue apostrophe, “James”—it’ll (it will) trip ya up faster than political ideology, which is saying something.
And next time know what the hell you are talking about before you attack someone else for doing what you do, especially when the other person has the legitimate excuse of trying to navigate a very confusing and inconsistent second language.
Democrats are going out of their way to lose a swing state:
Democrats who already were queasy about the site of their national convention could be excused after Tuesday’s election in North Carolina if they asked, “Tell me again just why we’re going to Charlotte this year?”
http://decoded.nationaljournal.com/2012/05/some-second-thoughts-about-cha.php
Obama’s politics of distraction
The day after North Carolina voted 60-40 to ban gay marriage, Barack Obama did what any sane politician would do…endorse gay marriage. He told ABC that he felt compelled to by the gay interns he knew, his wife, his children and Jesus. Why did he do it? Sheer, naked opportunism. Like the contraception issue before it, this is an attempt to distract from how bad the economy is. What will Obama do next in his desperate bid for re-election? Make a claim on the Falklands?
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/05/obamas_politics_of_distraction.html#ixzz1uVbCOxnW
Psssstttttt nancy, barry, joey, bwany…………
Founthers Quotes About Homosexual Sin
| Steven Andrew
All Our Founding Fathers Opposed Homosexual Sin:
Fearing God, and wanting the USA to be blessed by God and not cursed, our Founding Fathers made Christian laws for our nation. God says, “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.” Obeying God, our Founding Fathers shamed sin.
George Washington court martialed homosexuals. He forbid this sin in the military and said:
“…the Commander in Chief… with Abhorrence and Detestation of such Infamous Crimes [sodomy]…”
The Ninth Law Made in America with the Laws of Virginia 1610 is:
“No man shall commit the horrible and detestable sins of sodomy [homosexuality]…”
Thomas Jefferson authored a bill to castrate rapsits and homosexuals. He wrote:
“Crimes whose punishment goes to LIMB. 1. Rape 2. Sodomy } Dismemberment.”
Noah Webster, the Schoolmaster of the Reublic, wrote in the 1828 Webster’s Dictionary that homosxual sin was agianst nature as God says in Romans 1. Noah Webster instructed Americans in the dictionary with:
“Sodomy: A crime against nature.”
The 1833 Encyclopedia Britannica taught:
“The nameless crime, which was the disgrace of Greek and Roman civilization…”
All 13 Colonies & All 50 States outlawed homosexual sin. Homosexuals are shamed throughout American history because God says such sin is an abomination. For example, New York’s law was based on the Holy Bible and said:
“That if any man shall lie with mankind as he lieth with womankind, both of them have committed abomination…” Can you see that trying to “change” things in the USA rejects both God and our Founding Fathers? You either have Christianity and the real USA or you have the world and sin.
What is God plan? God’s purpose for men is to love their wife and to train children in Christ (Ephesians 5:22-6:4).
God says, “The fear of the LORD is to hate evil” (Proverbs 8:13). You have to make a decision today. Will you serve God or sin (John 14:21, Psalm 33:12…)? Are you on God’s side?
God calls those rejecting Him “haters of God” (Romans 1:30). While some early colonial laws had significant penalties for some sins as an effort to keep families strong as they settled, later the penalties were lessened.
All sin can be forgiven because of Jesus dying on the cross. Think how Jesus came to call sinners to repentance. Jesus simply says, “repent” to sinners. Jesus gave remarkable compassion to the woman caught in adultery. He forgave her, saying, “go, and sin no more” (John 8:11).
God’s forgiveness for all sin is seen in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11. God says:
“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators… nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites… And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”
“The day after North Carolina voted 60-40 to ban gay marriage, Barack Obama did what any sane politician would do…endorse gay marriage”
Gay For Pay
Gay For Pay
or in barrys case dope
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