This could be Part 1 of a 10,000 part series, but one of the problems I’m always yammering on about it is our failure to understand that prosperity only comes when you make, mine or grow things. Keep in mind that I consider my own work pretty much useless as compared to what any plumber, auto mechanic, doctor or drywall installer does in the course of the day. There is some point in what I do, but I don’t kid myself in to thinking that the world would be worse off, fundamentally, if my entire job title was scrubbed from the books. The trouble we have is that people who are government bureaucrats, college gender studies professors, lawyers, think tank employees, etc believing they are doing something as important (or even more important) than those people who grow our food and make our clothes.
As we look for ways to fix our nation, one of the most important tasks will be to re-invigorate the concept that work – real work – is honorable. That the man or woman getting dirty day by day to ensure we have the necessities is doing something 2nd in importantce only to raising children (the fact that we don’t consider raising children to be that important – as we can see in the liberal attitudes towards stay-at-home-mom Mrs. Romney – is an article for another day). As it turns out, Mike Rowe of Dirty Jobs fame from television has written a letter to Romney on this very subject. To quote:
…I shared my theory that most of these “problems” were in fact symptoms of something more fundamental – a change in the way Americans viewed hard work and skilled labor. That’s the essence of what I’ve heard from the hundreds of men and women I’ve worked with on Dirty Jobs.Pig farmers, electricians, plumbers, bridge painters, jam makers, blacksmiths, brewers, coal miners, carpenters, crab fisherman, oil drillers…they all tell me the same thing over and over, again and again – our country has become emotionally disconnected from an essential part of our workforce. We are no longer impressed with cheap electricity, paved roads, and indoor plumbing. We take our infrastructure for granted, and the people who build it.
Today, we can see the consequences of this disconnect in any number of areas, but none is more obvious than the growing skills gap. Even as unemployment remains sky high, a whole category of vital occupations has fallen out of favor, and companies struggle to find workers with the necessary skills. The causes seem clear. We have embraced a ridiculously narrow view of education. Any kind of training or study that does not come with a four-year degree is now deemed “alternative.” Many viable careers once aspired to are now seen as “vocational consolation prizes,” and many of the jobs this current administration has tried to “create” over the last four years are the same jobs that parents and teachers actively discourage kids from pursuing. (I always thought there something ill-fated about the promise of three million “shovel ready jobs” made to a society that no longer encourages people to pick up a shovel.)…
Precisely – now, what does Mr. Rowe want? He continues…
…Certainly, we need more jobs, and you were clear about that in Tampa. But the Skills Gap proves that we need something else too. We need people who see opportunity where opportunity exists. We need enthusiasm for careers that have been overlooked and underappreciated by society at large. We need to have a really big national conversation about what we value in the workforce, and if I can be of help to you in that regard, I am at your service – assuming of course, you find yourself in a new address early next year…
Rowe goes on to note that he wrote Obama the same sort of letter four years ago and never heard back…but it appears that Romney has now read the letter. Romney is unlikely as a man to lead us on a revolution – but curiously enough he is more likely than Obama (for all the “fundamental transformation of America” that Obama is on about, all he’s really doing is consolidating something that Chesterton predicted more than 100 years ago – that the Ruling Class would call itself “socialist”, put us all in property-less economic straightjackets and, straight faced, tell us they care about the little guy). I hope that Romney really ponders the letter and starts to talk about he issues raised. Cutting taxes and spending; very important. Reforming our regulatory system; vital. But unless we become an America of working people doing the dirty job of building civilization brick by brick and girder by girder, then we’re ultimately doomed.
Mark,
If you really think Romney will seriously respond to a letter like this, I have a bridge I would love to sell you. Romney is part of the ruling class. I doubt he has ever worked a “dirty job” in is life.
Casper,
And Obama has?
Didn’t say he had. But I believe he has a much better connection with the people that have done dirty jobs than Romney has. He has actually worked with people who do the dirty jobs.
ROFL!!! My goodness, don’t you realize that Obama’s background is every bit as privileged as Mitt Romney’s? What was it, Obama’s “community organizing” which convinces you he’s familiar with the nitty-gritty? For goodness sakes, Romney’s Mormon missionary work likely got Romney more in touch with nitty-gritty working stiffs than Obama’s community organizing. The fundamental difference between Romney and Obama – sociologically – is that Romney choose a private-sector career path while Obama choose a government-sector path…Romney is rich and so is Obama (though neither of them are in the rarified atmosphere of the super rich…so many of which are liberals…or, more accurately, plutocrats who talk a socialist game). Neither of them, from personal experience, know what its like to be under the middle-class financial squeeze of 2012. Good grief, have you bought a complete line of nonsense…
Mark Edward Noonan
“September 9, 2012 at 12:45 am #
ROFL!!! My goodness, don’t you realize that Obama’s background is every bit as privileged as Mitt Romney’s?”
Obama’s father was head of GM, then later a governor? I don’t think so.
“For goodness sakes, Romney’s Mormon missionary work likely got Romney more in touch with nitty-gritty working stiffs than Obama’s community organizing ”
Trying to convert someone to your faith isn’t the same as helping them learn job skills.
“The fundamental difference between Romney and Obama – sociologically – is that Romney choose a private-sector career path while Obama choose a government-sector path”
Agreed. Romney has spent his life trying to get rich while Obama has spent his doing public service (much like Paul Ryan).
“Romney is rich and so is Obama ”
Romney is worth 250 million, Obama 10 million. Just a little difference there.
“Cluster
September 9, 2012 at 8:28 am #
The liberal in attendance has bought into the line the democrats are for the working man and republicans are for the rich.”
That’s not what I said. I said Romney is part of the ruling class. Son of a governor, former governor, rich with money in multiple offshore accounts. There are both Republicans and Democrats that would fit that description.
“In addition to Romney starting a company like Staples that depends on a strong middle class,”
Romney didn’t start Staples. He invested in it and he did so to make money not to help the middle class.
“He has been in the hospital rooms of a dying middle class child, wrote the will of a dying, middle class, 14 year old boy, and took Thanksgiving dinners to a middle class family.”
Good for him. Obama has visited the victims of the Colorado shooting in the hospital and helped serve meals to the poor at homeless shelters. They are both nice guys.
Wait a min Casper… “He has actually worked with people who do the dirty jobs.”
Really?
Granted, in a way what you say is true. lil obama has work with Pelosi, Reid, Richard Durbin, Eric Holder and others… So, yes, he has work with people that have done “Dirty” jobs. The whole lot is filthy…
Casper,
For the middle class person the difference between $250 million and $10 is irrelevant – it is vastly more money than any of us are ever going to have. Obama is just as insulated from the economic reality of life as Romney…and given the nature of rich people, you can be sure that just as Romney’s children, grand-children and great-grandchildren will never have to worry about the economic future, neither will Obama’s.
As for what Obama did as a community organizer – find me one person who is now running his own, private-sector, never-had-a-government-contract business because of Obama’s “community organizing”. What Obama did was garbage…pretend caring to build up “street cred”.
Dave,
What you liberals miss is that letting the tax cuts expire won’t hurt someone like Romney or Obama…what it will hurt is someone who is running a farm, or a small construction firm. Someone like that might even be worth in total assets $20 or $30 million…but he’s not rich in the sense of actually having millions of dollars just sitting there, like Obama has. That’s everything – and out of everything he has to keep his business running, his employees paid, buy new equipment, develope new markets…and all you liberals want to do is make it harder.
You want to tax the rich? Ok. But think about it, first. What, exactly is “rich”? Someone with total assets of $25 million running a mid-sized mining operation, or someone – like Obama – sitting on $10 million in stocks and bonds and just living off the interest, not doing anyone a darn bit of good? You want to tax the rich then let’s do it – propose a tax on wealth in excess of, say, $5 million if the wealth is held in stocks and bonds. Make it 10%. Tell your billionaire, plutocrat liberals like Soros and Buffet that you’re going to tax away, each year, $4 billion dollars of their wealth…and see how far you get with that proposal.
post a series of disconnected comments and then leave.
Dave is on a spam list and when the blog is scanned for spam his posts are deleted. Responding to them only leaves his footprints on the blog. //Moderator
Dave,
Until you actually respond to a comment, there is no real point in further talking with you. I suggest to all and sundry that you just be ignored until you actually engage rather than just come in post a series of disconnected comments and then leave.
Dave is on a spam list and when the blog is scanned for spam his posts are deleted. Responding to them only leaves his footprints on the blog. //Moderator
Mark: ROFL!!! My goodness, don’t you realize that Obama’s background is every bit as privileged as Mitt Romney’s?
Okay, that made me laugh. Apparently it made you laugh too.
For the middle class person the difference between $250 million and $10 is irrelevant
I’m pretty sure a middle class person — or any person, for that matter — can tell the difference between 10 bucks and $250 million. I’m just funnin’ with ya. But here’s the really weird part: you went on to say, what it will hurt is someone who is running a farm, or a small construction firm. Someone like that might even be worth in total assets $20 or $30 million…but he’s not rich in the sense of actually having millions of dollars just sitting there, like Obama has.
Huh? I’m pretty sure that any middle class person — or any person, for that matter — can tell you that $10 million is less than $20 or $30 million, but substantially less than $250 million.
The liberal in attendance has bought into the line the democrats are for the working man and republicans are for the rich. It’s a juvenile notion, but there are a lot of juvenile liberals. For those rich people that earned their wealth, including Romney, they have a much deeper understanding of the lower and middle class than Obama ever could. The rich people that earned their wealth rose through the ranks of the middle class, worked with the middle class, and now sells products and services to the middle class and they know very well that without a strong middle class, they don’t have a customer base.
In addition to Romney starting a company like Staples that depends on a strong middle class, Romney went even further and prayed and consoled with the middle class. He has been in the hospital rooms of a dying middle class child, wrote the will of a dying, middle class, 14 year old boy, and took Thanksgiving dinners to a middle class family. Obama only speaks of the middle class, but I hardly doubt he even knows any one who qualifies as middle class.
I guess you are right Casper. He does have more of a connection with those who have done “dirty jobs” aayres and his crew were trying to kill people by blowing them up with home made bombs.
Can’t get much dirtier than that can you?
GMB
dont forget the black panthers and nation of islam that ubama is such good friends with talk about dirty jobs.
Ooh and catspuke, you are correct al Ubama hung with drug heads and drug dealers and Romney didnt so in a way you are correct.
mark
wish you could stop living the lie
and find a meaningful job that contributes positively
you’re driving yourself crazy on this……
and it’s not good for you baby….
::((
I think a lot of people would like to find a meaningful job bags. In fact 23 million of them, thanks to Obama.
Bagni,
Already done – writing. That I don’t make any money at it is irrelevant.
hey mark
cool…you quit your bank type job?
way to go
I don’t hear either candidate for President really talking about doing what is necessary to put Americans back to work in relatively “unskilled” jobs, like running sewing machines to make “jeans” or machines to make all of the “sports” shoes that Americans buy from the department stores that market all of our “foreign made” goods. No one is really urging American citizens to go to work in the vegetable fields of California or our Southwestern states to replace the “illegal” immigrants who have come into these states to take these “dirty” “back-breaking” jobs. We have allowed too many businesses to move their “plantations” overseas where they can benefit from cheap, almost “slave labor”, without having to pay a lot of benefits to them for their costs of living and personal care. I don’t hear much serious talk addressing these issues.
bub1
do you ever shop at walmart? have you ever?
if so then YOU are part of the problem.
would you pay $950.00 for a TV made in the USA and by pass the same one for $325.00 made over seas?
I used to buy my American-made clothes and personal items for myself and our family with money I made while working part-time driving a taxi and selling shoes while I was working my way through college and my wife was working as a secretary in an office as we sought to take care of our young son without any health insurance. And if we didn’t have the cash we didn’t get the item, no matter what was on the price tag.
They still make TVs in the USA?
reek-o
you tell us, you are the expert on everything.
I don’t find anything at all in Mitt Romney’s background that would lead me to believe that he has a “deeper understanding of the lower and middle class than Obama ever could.” He didn’t earn his wealth by rising through the ranks of the middle class, as Custer suggests. He has lead a privileged life from the beginning.
As for Mark, how’s that make, mine and grow thing working for you? Last we heard from you, you said it was too late for you to actually do any of those things yourself, even though you estimate you have another 30 years to go before you can retire. Maybe you could take up Bob’s suggestion and run a sewing machine or work in a vegetable field. I’m sure either of those pursuits would be more satisfying than your current one.
waspstooge
al Ubama didn’t earn his wealth by rising through the ranks of the middle class, as watty suggests. He has lead a privileged life from the beginning.
yup
watstooge
Maybe you could take up Bob’s suggestion and run a sewing machine or work in a vegetable field. I’m sure either of those pursuits would be more satisfying than your current one.
why dont YOU tell us what you do dummy?
a coke with the fries sah?
Clown said, “why dont YOU tell us what you do dummy?”
I’ve made things my entire life. I don’t have the regret that Mark now has in middle age because I chose a different path than he did, and one that has been very rewarding. I feel fortunate.
Ah, back to name-calling, eh, Clown?
I didn’t talk about President Obama. Do you read or react to what you wish people said?
watstooge
I’ve made things my entire life
like I said a coke with those fries?
LOSER!!
Neocon1 you are the kind of person that Mark is talking to in his post. The denigration of minimum wage work in America and the subsequent small size of that wage are part and parcel to the problem with getting Americans, even unemployed Americans, to do what he calls dirty jobs. There is nothing dishonorable about working in the fast food industry and using your earnings to take care of yourself and your family. All work has value.
duane vaseline
HORSE SHIITE
Yeah. Like his fantasy of being a senator. Now that’s a dirty job.
PRESENT……..whew hard work.
duane vaseline
you are a kitty cat?
Ubama is a DOG?
Watson,
I have my life as it is – I’m not about to completely uproot myself at my age. But I’m also very much in to truth – and so I understand that someone who is a plumber is far more valuable than 50 people with non-science college degrees.
Mark you are what you eat.
I grew up on a farm. We had no indoor plumbing, no electricity. We milked by hand, cooked on an old cook stove by burning cobs. Combines were not used, instead we used threshing machines. Now that you know I am old and actually slopped the hogs, milked cows, wringed the necks of chickens, and used an outhouse. I can honestly say I would rather walk through a corn field with Romney any day than Obama.
chrissyann,
I also grew up on a farm. We didn’t have indoor plumbing but we did have electricity. I also slopped the hogs, milked cows, wringed the necks of chickens, and used an outhouse. I’ve done a number of other dirty jobs since then. I can honestly say I would rather walk through a corn field with Obama any day than Romney.
of course you would
commies,muslims, dopers have a lot in common with todays “teachers”
chrissyann: I can honestly say I would rather walk through a corn field with Romney any day than Obama.
Let me get this straight… that observation is enough to sway your vote when it comes to voting for the leader of the free world? I ask Casper the same thing: Should one’s comfort level walking a corn field with a candidate matter to one’s comfort level voting for them as leader of the free world? If it does, then I’d say something is very, very wrong. Think about it… it it came to that, Sarah Palin would be the obvious front-runner.
Let me also add that if I were inclined to take seriously neocon’s remark lumping “commies, muslims, and dopers” in with “today’s teachers”, I would be very offended — especially if I were a dedicated conservative. If I were a dedicated conservative, I’d say that kind of nonsense not only fails to help the cause, it profoundly hurts it. Heck, it’s hard enough to wedge “commies, muslims, and dopers” into the same group without adding “today’s teachers” into it. After all, the last represents a much larger and disparate voting bloc than all of the former combined. But I’m not a dedicated conservative, so I guess it’s okay. In fact, from what I can tell, I’m sure all the really dedicated conservatives on this site regard him as a clown as much as I do. So it’s okay. I’m pretty sure.
“I ask Casper the same thing: Should one’s comfort level walking a corn field with a candidate matter to one’s comfort level voting for them as leader of the free world?”
If that were the only factor, no. In 2004, I thought Bush was a more likeable guy than Kerry, but I voted for Kerry rather than Bush because of their positions. In Obama’s case I like him more as a person and I definitely like his positions in most area much better.
As for neo’s comments about teachers, it should be noted that there are a lot of teachers who are also conservatives. Several of my best friends for that matter. Comments like neo’s helps me build the case that conservatives hate teachers and that maybe they should look to the other side.
rico
not all teachers fall into that category, but they certainly made their mark in Wisconsin remember that 8 Million trashing of the Capital building and the lunatic rants of their labor “leaders”?
I thought not….
catspuke
Comments like neo’s helps me build the case that conservatives hate teachers and that maybe they should look to the other side.
Bull Crap, if you arent smart enough to understand what I implied then you should be “teaching” monkeys how to eat bananas and not be within 10,000 feet of children.
Good for you Rico. It speaks volumes about this blog; volumes, that Neo is allowed to post here. He represents everything that movement conservatives try to convince the sane world that they aren’t.
bmitch
refute it if you can.
“I voted for Kerry rather than Bush because of their positions. In Obama’s case I like him more as a person and I definitely like his positions in most area much better.”
Uh-oh, casper, you are treading dangerously close to actual politics here, which is foreign territory for you.
But please,go on.
What specific policies of Kerry’s appealed to you more than what specific policies of Bush’s?
And what specific policies of Obama’s do you find “much better” than those of either Republican opponent?
catspuke
. Comments like neo’s helps me build the case that conservatives hate teachers and that maybe they should look to the other side.
My many teacher friends agree with what I said (all the conservative ones) and I was referring to you and those like you….ayers comes to mind remember him? and your LOVE for la
razza stunning…
What specific policies of Kerry’s appealed to you more than what specific policies of Bush’s?
kerry’s treason?
Kerry wanted to end the Iraqi war. He wanted to end torture and close Gitmo to name a few and yes i know Obama hasn’t closed Gitmo, something I disagree with him on.
As for Obama policies that I favor, start with foreign policy. Romney would love a war with Iran, Obama not so much. Obama has extended civil rights for gays, Romney wants to limit them. Obama is for ending the Bush tax cuts for the rich, Romney wants to give the rich even more.
reeeko
Union Teachers Explain How to Push Marxism in the Classroom
uh huh uh huh…….
Obama has extended civil rights for gays,
sodomy is a civil right?
whats next?
casper, you spout a lot of Lefty talking points, and seem incapable of understanding that when you base an opinion or a decision on a lie, it becomes meaningless.
Bush never supported “torture”. Ever. The RRL redefined pretty much anything unpleasant as “torture” and Leftist lawyers supported this but the definition was wildly elastic and biased.
“Romney would love a war with Iran…”
Don’t you even CARE how stupid you sound? “WOULD LOVE A WAR WITH IRAN”. Do you even HEAR yourself? This statement is not only bizarrely stupid, it is really really vicious. Shame on you.
“Obama has extended civil rights for gays…”
No, he hasn’t. Civil rights for gay people are exactly what they always have been, and the lie that the gay issue is about “civil rights” is the most cold-blooded trivialization of the true civil rights struggle imaginable. Buying into this false rhetoric does not serve you well.
“Romney wants to limit them.”
A lie. A vile, vicious lie. Romney in no way wants to limit civil rights for anyone.
“Obama is for ending the Bush tax cuts for the rich..”
No, you silly silly twit, Obama wants to RAISE taxes and knows that clueless lemmings are susceptible to the class warfare rhetoric he is using to turn some Americans against others.
After all these years, this is our tax code, pure and simple, and wanting to raise taxes is wanting to raise taxes, pure and simple. I am amazed that ANYONE, even you, is so clueless that you are still swallowing that “Bush tax cut” crap.
” Romney wants to give the rich even more.”
Again, this is such a transparent lie, I am amazed that even you can say it, with what I assume is a straight face.
First of all, NO ONE is GIVING anyone anything when the tax code is changed. THIS IS THEIR OWN MONEY.
You hit the keys on your keyboard and out spills such mindless Lefty attitudes, you reveal yourself with every word.
Since when is allowing someone to RETAIN what he has EARNED “giving” him anything? You actually believe that what people earn is not theirs, don’t you, but really belongs to the government, which then “gives” it back to us.
And this “the rich” crap is soooooo Left-wing class warfare language.
But thank you for your response. You showed us several things.
1. You are completely incapable of sorting through the Leftist lies to dig out the truth about anything—or you don’t care if it is true or not, if it fits into your emotion-based antipathy toward people for a political position you don’t even understand.
2. You buy into the idea that what we earn is not ours but the government’s, and that what we get to keep is really GIVEN to us by the government.
3. You are very easily sucked into the surly resentment necessary for the Left to successfully demonize wealth, success and productivity and gull people like you into voting to penalize it.
4. You do not vote for the best political system to govern the nation, but only on emotion-based perceptions, which are founded on emotional manipulation by people who understand the weaknesses of people like you, and as a result it is people like you who vote for a political system that is the antithesis of our Constitutional model of government.
Amazona,
Water boarding is torture.
Romney’s foreign policy advisers are neocons who have been pushing for war with Iraq for years.
Gays will have the same civil rights as others when they are allowed to marry who they love.
I know you don’t think the rich should pay taxes. I disagree.
casper, you are such an idiot.
Yes, some define waterboarding as torture, many do not. Your own opinion is not definitive. Given the idiocy of your other opinions it actually has no weight whatsoever.
“Romney’s foreign policy advisers are neocons who have been pushing for war with Iraq for years.”
Which is the opinion of a radical Lefty, who chugs down whatever Koolaid his minders give him, and which has not one single thing to do, even if it WERE correct (which it is not) with ““Romney would love a war with Iran…”” What you said is profoundly stupid, profoundly dishonest, and profoundly vicious.
Name these “advisers”, quote their “pushing for war with Iraq for years” and tell us how the opinions of other people about Iraq, a nation which was invaded ten years ago and is not not in any way a target of any warlike agenda, can possibly translate into the particularly vile “Romney would love a war with Iran ”
What an idiot.
“Gays will have the same civil rights as others when they are allowed to marry who they love.”
Marriage is not a civil right. As I said, the callous decision to try to conflate a privilege with true civil rights is a vile trivialization of civil rights and a disgusting tactic.
There is no inherent right to marry. There are restrictions on who may marry whom. What you bleat about is not a “right” but the special privilege of hijacking and redefining a word and has not one single thing to do with any “right”.
“I know you don’t think the rich should pay taxes.”
You not only know no such thing, this is nothing more than one of your more distasteful lies, a complete and total fabrication spewing from that noxious sewer you call a mind. I have never said any such thing, I have never implied such a thing, and no such concept in any form has ever even been DISCUSSED by any person here, much less supported by me.
Your blatant lying is becoming quite disgusting. In this case I know you do not believe this, even in your most overheated feverswamp delusions—you are just so stupid you think it is a compelling argument.
You exhibit a series and depth of delusions your school board might want to examine, as they are in no way related to any form of reality. You have degenerated from a Lib teacher whose stupidity regarding things like the Constitution might concern a parent, into a blithering idiot with absolutely no regard for the truth OR reality, and clearly one who should not be “teaching” impressionable young people.
” Comments like neo’s helps me build the case that conservatives hate teachers…”
You're kidding, right? Or do you really think you have even a scintilla of credibility and respect in your teacher's lounge? Do you truly think anyone would listen to anything you say?
You are going to "build a case"???? Too funny. You are too spineless to have an actual political foundation that goes any deeper than Lefty knee pads, you are so thoroughly and despicably dishonest you can't be trusted on anything, and you are a joke.
You just go right ahead and try to convince anyone—-ANYONE—–that "conservatives hate teachers".
What an idiot.
BTW, do you really think that being on a mission means nothing more than talking about LDS? Really? You going to try to peddle that particular bit of nasty religious bigotry and deplorable stupidity?
I guess no one would expect anything more from you…………
I’m sorry Amazona but the right to marry is established in US lawby both the Perez decision in 1948 and the Loving decision in Virginia in 1966. The supreme court of california found, “Marriage is a fundamental right in a free society; the state may not restrict this right with respect to restrictions based upon the race of the parties.”
The US Supreme Court in the Loving case in 1966 found that, “Marriage is one of the “basic civil rights of man,” fundamental to our very existence and survival…. To deny this fundamental freedom on so unsupportable a basis as the racial classifications embodied in these statutes, classifications so directly subversive of the principle of equality at the heart of the Fourteenth Amendment, is surely to deprive all the State’s citizens of liberty without due process of law. The Fourteenth Amendment requires that the freedom of choice to marry not be restricted by invidious racial discrimination. Under our Constitution, the freedom to marry, or not marry, a person of another race resides with the individual and cannot be infringed by the State.”
Full faith and credit, period, must be applied by anyone who is willing to enter into a contract of marriage with a partner. You’ve lost this already, why worry?
So, everybody jumps on Casper with both feet and neocon gets a totally free pass — not a word, not one word from any conservative. I’m not a social psychologist, and I did not intend this thread to be an experiment. But if I were and if I did, it was spectacularly successful.
neo may annoy you but he does not lie.
casper is a liar, a serial liar, a repeat liar, and a very very stupid liar—and what’s worse, he is in a position of trust and power where he can indoctrinate young minds with his toxic sludge.
reek-O
like I said REFUTE anything I said……if not STFU!!
I don’t find anything at all in Mitt Romney’s background that would lead me to believe that he has a “deeper understanding of the lower and middle class than Obama ever could.” – watson
Romney not only led his congregation, but he consoled and was personally involved in many of their lives. To someone without Faith, you wouldn’t understand.
Well, first of all, Cluster, you don’t know anything about my faith. Nice try, but it’s just a nasty little jab. Mitt would probably be proud of you.
I think Mitt displays an amazing lack of regard for, you know, people. It may well be true that he done some good for some people with whom he is close. And I would even go so far as to say that as governor of Massachusetts, he actually pursued some programs that benefited folks less fortunate than himself. But that Mitt Romney is gone, replaced by the model who has been running for president for six years, the one who must reject his former self, the one who can’t even run on his own record as governor.
And it is simply a matter of fact that Mitt has lead a privileged life. He’s been a one percenter the entire time.
Frank marshall davis, communist
wright, hateful racist
choom gang, felonious dopers
yeah YOUR kind of guy all right
moteasah?
I think Mitt displays an amazing lack of regard for, you know, people – Watson
This statement just defies reality and is incredibly delusional. How many dying 14 year old boys did Obama take time out of his day for.
And anyone of Faith would know exactly where Romney is coming from with his compassion for other people. Watson, you are not a person of Faith regardless how you try to convince me otherwise. In fact you are less than human in my opinion.
” Mitt would probably be proud of you.”
See, it’s this kind of spite and malice that makes you so utterly distasteful. Mitt Romney has nothing at all to do with what anyone here said,but you are so devoured by your bitterness and hatred that you can’t pass up a chance to show it off.
And what is so funny to us is the obvious fact that bitterness and hatred are all you’ve got. You don’t enter into a rational discussion of why you believe the big-government collectivist redistributist political philosophy of Obama is a better way to govern the country than the small-government Constitutional model Mitt has promised to support if elected.
No, all you do is snipe and spit. This IS your political commentary.
“one per center”——anyone who spouts this mindless demagoguic blather is self-identifying as a loony lemming.
Mitt Romney interacting with people.
Meanwhile, Obama’s after convention bounce continues.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/obama_approval_index_history
which just proves 50% of Americans are dumbed down useful idiots who would sell their soul for a lick of OPM.
sad
“neocon1
September 9, 2012 at 1:31 pm #
which just proves 50% of Americans are dumbed down useful idiots who would sell their soul for a lick of OPM.
sad”
It’s 52%. That’s over half, in case you have trouble with numbers. Sorry you hate over half of your fellow citizens.
Meanwhile Romney decides to keep parts of Obamacare.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/09/mitt-romney-obamacare.php?ref=fpa
AGAINST ENEMIES both foreign and ***DOMESTIC***!!!!!
So HELP ME GOD!!
I choose the constitution, those who dont?
the oath defines who they are.
“Meanwhile Romney decides to keep parts of Obamacare.”
Another day, another position by Mitt. He will say and do anything he thinks will get him elected. Some of you say he has been your choice along. How can you even know that since he changes his views on a daily basis?
useful idiots..
Wait! Holy heck! What the…? The new god has spoken from the convention floor! It’s channeled through the voices of the people!
“Bow down, all ye worshipers, to me, the god of the almighty State, the god to whom everyone belongs from birth to death.
“Bring out the sackbut, the cymbals, and the gongs. Celebrate me, the almighty and compassionate State, who is ready to provide you with all your needs. Are you sick? I, the god of state, will have compassion and heal you. Are you hungry? I, the divine state, will feed you. Do you need a home? I, the holy state, will provide you with shelter.
“Are the oceans rising and the planet in need of healing? Do not fear. My new messiah will lower the ocean levels and tend to our sick planet.
“Come to me, the State, all you who are in need, and you will find rest for your bodies, wanting for nothing.
“Of course, I require some sacrifices. I have some commandments you are to obey. Here are — entirely coincidentally! — ten of them chosen at random from thousands.
“You shall worship only one god: I, the State.
“You shall not worship any other gods than the State except maybe Gaia, my handmaiden.
“You shall observe strict dietary rules. Stay away from the temples of McDonald’s, Burger King, and Kentucky Fried Chicken lest you pollute yourself with soda and fats. But most especially, stay away from the blasphemous food temple of Chick-fil-A.
“You shall illuminate your residence with special curly bulbs as holy lamp stands dedicated to me and Gaia, my handmaiden of the Earth.
“You shall speak the holy language of political correctness. The appropriate lexicon will be issued from time to time, as I am a god who often changes his mind.
“You shall tithe to me, the State, the fruits of the labor of your hands in order that others be given their fair share.
“You shall send your sons and daughters to my temples of learning only. You shall recognize the messianic mission of my Anointed One, contributing your time and energies to the missionary causes espoused by the Anointed One.
“You shall not covet a profit from what I, the State, have built. You did not build anything. I did it all.
“You shall accept my holy sacrament of child sacrifice.”
As the smoke ascended and the incense from the garments of the Anointed One and his Prophet, Joseph the Bald, wafted through the crowd, all the worshipers bowed down and pledged allegiance to the New Order, praying for Hope and Change. Prostrate, they begged the new god to allow Four More Years to Achieve Holy Change under the Rule of the Anointed One and his Prophet.
Then the crowd of worshippers rose to their feet as one.
And all the people shouted, “AMEN!”
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/09/and_all_the_democrats_said_amen.html#ixzz25zrBMGTw
Questions
Patricia McCarthy
How on earth is it possible that, after nearly four years of a manifestly dismal, failed presidency, Barack Obama has any support at all, beyond the ten percent of the population who do not know that America has a president? How can a single sentient person on the planet claim that he has been a good leader, a good steward of the economy, a good strategist on foreign policy, a unifier of the American people, a jobs creator?
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2012/09/questions.html#ixzz25zsyXNXg
answer = dumbed down useful idiots.
Clown said “How on earth is it possible that, after nearly four years of a manifestly dismal, failed presidency, Barack Obama has any support at all, beyond the ten percent of the population who do not know that America has a president.”
That is a good question, isn’t it? An even better question: How on earth is it possible that Mitt Romney is not holding a gigantic lead over President Obama? Do you think it could have anything to do with Mitt Romney and conservatives in general? Of course you don’t.
watty: “How on earth is it possible that Mitt Romney is not holding a gigantic lead over President Obama?”
It is called the Dependent Class – those on government assistance with the threat of Republicans taking away their free government cheese (at least that is what the Democrats tell them and they are too scared to know better).
Or the non-Income Tax paying class – 47% pay no income taxes and the threat is that Republicans will give the rich tax cuts at their expense (at least that is what the Democrats tell them and they are too ignorant to know better). How can you take away cash that they don’t pay to begin with and “give” it to the rich in the form of tax cuts?
or the African-American population whose majority believes that only black people can represent them with the threat of the Republicans who will put them back in chains (at least that is what the Democrats tell them and the Democrats are too stupid and desperate not to play dirty politics with such lies).
or the other special interests that are waiting with baited breath for the next bailout or stimulus package to pay them off for their political support.
Too easy watty.
Your answer is simplistic (and wrong), tirdy, which is not surprising.
“Sorry you hate over half of your fellow citizens.”
casper, you are so stunningly stupid it is often a surprise even to those of us who have seen you illustrate your stupidity so well for so long.
In this case it is a creepy hybrid of stupidity and sheer nastiness. “Hate” people because they don’t agree with you? Sorry, but that is your own personal take on life, one which you evidently find quite gratifying as a wallow.
Amazona September 9, 2012 at 4:48 pm #
“Sorry you hate over half of your fellow citizens.”
casper, you are so stunningly stupid it is often a surprise even to those of us who have seen you illustrate your stupidity so well for so long.
In this case it is a creepy hybrid of stupidity and sheer nastiness. “Hate” people because they don’t agree with you? Sorry, but that is your own personal take on life, one which you evidently find quite gratifying as a wallow.”
I was referring to neo’s comment
“which just proves 50% of Americans are dumbed down useful idiots who would sell their soul for a lick of OPM.”
That certainly doesn’t sound like love to me.
catspuke
so now TRUTH = HATE?
Goebbels must be soooo proud of you.
Watty, just because you say “it is wrong” doesn’t make it so!
Especially, after you have been bitch-slapped by me and others on this blog too many times to count.
It is just simple FACT that you can’t understand anything outside your collection of dumbed down talking points. Democrats have been running a campaign of FEAR with huge promises of cash (entitlements). All they ask is that you remember them come November.
Ben Franklin said, “When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”
There are those that support the Democrats without question due to the check they receive in the mail every month. They buy the line that they will lose these “benefits” if a Republican is elected. That is why the Democrats use it so often.
He also said: “The Constitution only gives people the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.”
There are those that are looking for the government to guarantee “happiness” in equal outcomes. This is undeniable since it has dominated the headlines with “rights” being defined day-by-day.
Nice try watty, but you have been bitch-slapped again. It is not my fault that you cannot connect the dots.
So are you planning to leave the US for a smarter nation after Obama wins Neocon??
duane vaseline
I’ll leave that to you demons and hollywood weirdos like when GWB won, but this time it will be Mitt…..ROTFLMAO…..
Even the Republicans are figuring out that Romney is losing.
“Their map has many more routes to victory,” said a top Republican official. Two officials intimately involved in the GOP campaign said Ohio leans clearly in Obama’s favor now, with a high single-digit edge, based on their internal tracking numbers of conservative groups. Romney can still win the presidency if he loses Ohio, but it’s extremely difficult.”
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0912/80949.html#ixzz25zs8BI1h
Again, cappy you are easily impressed and convinced by numbers but hardly know their origin or meaning.
FLASHBACK: CARTER +4 OVER REAGAN IN SEPT 1980 [+8 IN OCT]…
FLASHBACK: DUKAKIS +17 OVER BUSH AFTER DNC 1988…
We all know the outcomes of those elections.
But do continue this line of thought cappy. Your polls still don’t prove that obAMATEUR’s was boring and it fell flat with members of his own party. It is amusing that you continue to regurgitate your ASSumptions and guesses.
Really? Which Democratic National Convention did you watch?
we watched the one with the la razza boys, homosexuals, vaginas, drunken woman killers, serial rapists, fraudulent war “heroes”, illegal aliens and 31 yo unemployed “student” hooking for OPM for their birth control.
Oh wait we cant forget the BABY KILLERS, atheists, racists and muslims, and anti Semites.
yup the GODLESS DNC “convention”
Casper,
Yep that load of garbage has you liberals all atwitter…but I’ve warned you, for years now, don’t go with what people say (and certainly not what some people say some other people said, as if the case of that story). What Romney is doing is making a $1 million ad buy in Ohio.
You got your bogus “bounce” in phonied-up, oversampling-Democrats-polls. Enjoy it. It’ll make the “crow surprise” being served up to you on November 6th that much more entertaining.
Mark that was GOP leaning Rasmussen who showed Obama with a bounce.
All pure wishful thinking. The legions of unemployed and underemployed will be heard from on November 6, 2012. forty-three straight months with the unemployment rate over eight percent.
The country’s workforce participation rate is laughable if it were not so sad.
Polls that over sample donkrats are now the norm. Not believable, to say the least. National polls had jimmuh winning the 1980 election three days before it took place.
Der Panzer Bär still needs a new editor.
Were DOOOMMMEDDDD!!!!
Beg pardon, had to get that out.
Happy Sunday all. 🙂
GMB,
I’m not sure I’ve ever heard someone accuse Rasmussen of over sampling Democrats before. In fact, it’s usually the opposite. The polls quoted by the politico story are GOP internal polls. What reason would the GOP have to over sample Democrats in their own polls?
Further, I listened to the seemingly endless parade of losers, apologists and hysterical, moon-eyed, brain-dead, MaoBama symbionts as they spewed lie after outrageous lie, many manufactured of whole cloth to their adoring and slavish base… primarily, the Lame Stream Press et al, who, in their collective ecstasy with speaker after speaker, built to a truly orgasmic crescendo with the long and somewhat self-serving, disjointed ranting of the great Bubba and serial abuser of women, William Jefferson Clinton.
http://skipmaclure.blogspot.com/
” In fact, it’s usually the opposite. ”
And once again, the question is, is casper really that bone-deep stupid and actually believes this crap, or is he just quite happy lying if he stupidly thinks he can make a point?
The answer is, it doesn’t matter. He is still a nasty piece of work.
Hey, casper, you still all excited about supporting people because of their support for La Raza? You still finding the establishment of La Raza all you need to know about someone to support him?
Since Casper does support La Raza, why doesn’t he support the Aryan Nation? Same thing, just different skin color.
Amazona September 9, 2012 at 4:51 pm #
” In fact, it’s usually the opposite. ”
And once again, the question is, is casper really that bone-deep stupid and actually believes this crap, or is he just quite happy lying if he stupidly thinks he can make a point?”
And once again, instead of countering my point you go straight to the insults.
And you are ducking the question about your support of La Raza Unida, and trying to change the subject to me.
Come on, cappy, you were pretty bold the other day, stating and restating your conviction that starting La Raza was a plus for you and reason to gain your support.
I figured by now you’d have a nice long explanation of why you find this group so wonderful, so deserving of your support.
?????????????
Casper,
Once again, someone is saying that they heard something from someone else who says they saw something. Meanwhile, Romney is doing huge ad buys in Ohio…and has 22 campaign offices open in Michigan (Obama by 16.5 percentage points in 2008).
This is childish. I prefer analysis rather than complaining that the numbers are cooked. No one, and I mean no one at Blogs for Bush ever said that they didn’t trust polling numbers that showed Bush ahead of Kerry or those that showed Mccain with a slight lead over Obama in 2008. Same applies to the Bureau of Labor number on employment. When Bush was in office you took to those numbers like they came out of the KJV. Now they can’t be trusted unless they are moving in a direction that suits your political purposes as Conservatives. I’m sure some of you are delighted that the country isn’t recovering as fast as it can economically and to be that way is much more unpatriotic than burning a flag.
No sitting President in the history of the United States has been re-elected when the unemployment rate is over 7.2 percent.
barky is burnt on one side, soggy on the other.
GMB September 9, 2012 at 4:14 pm #
“No sitting President in the history of the United States has been re-elected when the unemployment rate is over 7.2 percent.”
Except FDR who was reelected with 17% unemployment.
Touche!
duane vaseline
Ooh yea a BIG score………Pfffttttttttt
PS
hide the pills and knives in hell when al Ubama is sent back to you nov 6 th
Beg pardon, you are correct. Anyone since FDR?
“Since FDR only Eisenhower, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Clinton and the two Bush’s have been elected president and then sought reelection. It’s hard to draw big conclusions from a sample of seven. Since FDR, only three times has a president been up for reelection when the unemployment rate was as high as 7.2%. Two of those presidents-Carter and Bush I-lost. The other, Reagan, won. For those who weren’t counting, that a sample of three.”
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2011_06/presidents_unemployment_rates029975.php
Well, at least Ann Romney admits that she and Mitt can’t really relate to ordinary folks. Today on Meet the Press:
And poor Mitt… According to Ann, he’s been “demonized” as being heartless! Demonized!
What a total moron! Ann Romney said no such thing, hinted at no such thing, implied no such thing, and in general never even got in the neighborhood of any such thing.
You are firmly in casper territory now, just getting a kick out of hurling snot and quite happy to invent whatever vile lies you have to invent to allow you to do so.
Uh, Little Amy, that was a direct quote from the transcript of today’s “Meet The Press,” on which Ann and Mitt Romney were interviewed by David Gregory. She also said–and this is a direct quote: “And in particular for Mitt who really has been demonized in many ways as being heartless.”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48959273/ns/meet_the_press-transcripts/t/september-mitt-romney-ann-romney-julian-castro-peggy-noonan-ej-dionne-bill-bennett-chuck-todd/#.UE0CZixx6bA
Notice how she used the word “believe”. Not “know” but believe. I believe in Santa Claus, Unicorns and the tooth fairy, but I know they don’t exist. Is this a Freudian slip on her part? Perhaps. Perhaps not but when she said it, it sure caught my attention.
Lots of meaningless things catch your attention Mitch.
Ann Romney DID NOT ADMIT SHE AND MITT CAN’T REALLY RELATE TO ORDINARY FOLKS
You made this up.
You lied.
You chose to pretend that this what she meant.
You lied.
You lie.
You are a liar.
You are a sour, resentful, hate-driven liar who pretends to be making political observations but who is really just wallowing in his own vile and vicious pathology.
You post only hate and personal attacks on conservatives but never state which political system you think is better for governing the nation, or why.
To you, politics is nothing more than a hatefest, a game of gotcha where the point is to be the nastiest and most vicious.
Always best to get the whole thing in:
I think that cancer and MS count as “struggles”…you know, the sort of suffering which can make you humble and willing to see others in a different light. Democrats, though, are all about the money…all they care about is money, money, money.
TALKING POINT ALERT!!! TALKING POINT ALERT!!! BEWARE! THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS NOTHING BUT A DNC TALKING POINT
Amazona I am seriously concerned about your mental state on 7 November after you realize that after wishing him gone Obama will still be President. People have decided. If Obama wins Florida or Ohio it’s over. The debates will be fun especially if there’s a gaffe or two on either side. But in the end, it’s already September and from here on out it’s a popularity contest.
One sad statistic not trumpeted by the donkyrats at the convention. Maybe they just forgot to mention that the number of my brothers and sisters killed in Shitholeistan under the barky administration are now more than double than GWB’s whole eight years in office.
I remember when dead Soldiers were a bad thing.
Now?
Peep. Not one.
TALKING POINT ALERT!!! TALKING POINT ALERT!!! BEWARE! THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS NOTHING BUT A DNC TALKING POINT
Speaking of not one peep, GMB, poor ol’ Mitt is now on the defensive for failing to even mention the war in Afghanistan–never mind our troops there–even once in his convention speech. Not a peep. Not one.
Like I said, you’re a surface thinker Watson.
So give us the deeper picture, Cluster. We all await your wisdom. You have the B4V soapbox. Meanwhile, your candidate equates soldiers with military assets. Nice.
You have obviously not been paying attention watson. Ask anyone, I usually catch a lot of hell for my criticisms of Mitt. I have been, in my opinion, Mitt’s harshest critic among those of us who call themselves conservative.
GMB=Mitt fan. Not only no! Hell No!!
However I will hold any specifics until king putt and queen mooch have had a intimate encounter with Allied Van Lines and king putt takes his last ride on Marine 1.
Awww, poor wattle is all whiny because Mitt won’t politicize dead soldiers. Guess you shouldn’t vote for him then.
wattle, why are you running from being called out on your vile lie about Ann Romney? Why are you now shifting to another form of attack, on Mitt.
A stupid attack, it’s true, but we have to consider the source.
You seem to go through his speeches and make lists of all the things he has not mentioned, and try to make a big deal out of them. “ooooh, Mitt didn’t talk about _________!!!”
Here are some things to add to your List of Shameful Omissions:
Apple butter
Hummingbirds
Droid vs iPhone
El Nino
Permanent press dress shirts
Ama: “wattle, why are you running from being called out on your vile lie about Ann Romney?”
That is what watty does best! He runs in the face of a challenge that his dumbed down talking points don’t fit – like velma, cappy, denny and the rest of the mindless drones.
They will outsource the speech writing job to Pune, India and whomever they hire will remember to “support the troops.”
you outsourced the presidency to Kenya…….
Considering that Romney’s Afghanistan plan is the same as Obama’s it’s obvious why the Republicans aren’t pushing this.
And the minute Mitt assumes Office, war deaths will mean something again. The war protest will start back up and sheehan will be back in news.
I think it’s unconscionable that we as a nation wouldn’t make it as easy as possible for members of the military to vote. They arguably have more right to vote than the rest of us, since it is their service and sacrifice that ensures we have the right to vote in the first place.
If anyone proposes legislation to combat voter fraud, Democrats will loudly scream that the proposal could “disenfranchise” some voter, somewhere. We must ensure, they argue, that voting is easy and accessible to every single voter. Every voter, that is, except the men and women of our military.
Make no mistake, the Democrat lawsuit is intended to disenfranchise some unknown number of military voters. The judge should reject it with prejudice.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/08/02/obama-campaign-sues-to-restrict-military-voting
Soldiers, overwhelmingly vote conservative. There is just to much for the collectivist to gain not to try and suppress as many military votes as possible.
Remember folks, every vote counts, unless you are a soldier.
Watson, I will say it again, you are not a person of Faith, and you could never convince me otherwise. In fact you represent what is wrong with this country. You harbor hatred towards people you don’t even know for irrational reasons, you have misguided compassion, you think entirely on the surface of every issue, you are racist, shallow, and emotionally unstable. Have I forgotten anything?
Good for you, Cluster. You’re an impressive man.
Thank you.
Cluster, that was a pretty good summary.
It is more and more obvious what constitutes the Left base, and it seems to be people just like wattle, who do not have a principled stand for an understood and adopted political philosophy but who just get off on being as vile, nasty, spiteful and vicious as they can, who have been sucked in by the Left because the Left seeks out and validates this sick pathology.
He not only lacks true objective support of the Left, being totally ignorant of its ideology and history and success rate when applied, he is even MORE ignorant of the system he loves to attack, smear and slime.
Clearly he is not motivated by political belief but by nothing more noble than a sick need to express to all the depths of his pathological and irrational hatreds.
Vicious and vile? I haven’t challenged Cluster’s faith. I haven’t accused him of being a racist. I haven’t claimed he’s emotionally unstable. That is Cluster’s modus operandi.
Amazona September 9, 2012 at 4:57 pm #
Cluster, that was a pretty good summary.
It is more and more obvious what constitutes the Left base, and it seems to be people just like wattle, who do not have a principled stand for an understood and adopted political philosophy but who just get off on being as vile, nasty, spiteful and vicious as they can, who have been sucked in by the Left because the Left seeks out and validates this sick pathology.
He not only lacks true objective support of the Left, being totally ignorant of its ideology and history and success rate when applied, he is even MORE ignorant of the system he loves to attack, smear and slime.
Clearly he is not motivated by political belief but by nothing more noble than a sick need to express to all the depths of his pathological and irrational hatreds.”
Projecting again Amazona.
Watson is just a hyper emtional liberal who, like Casper, has bought into the cartoonish notion that democrats are for the weak and poor and republicans are for the evil and rich. Boil that down even further and you have Democrats = good. Republicans = bad, and that is as about as deep as they go.
Casper,
Please use HTML when you quote someone. If you put a followed by a without the spaces, it will put the comments in between, in bold. If you use just an I, it will italicize it.
Obama Campaign Sues to Restrict Military Voting
says it all
casper, you spineless lying little weasel.
I said “It is more and more obvious what constitutes the Left base, and it seems to be people just like wattle, who do not have a principled stand for an understood and adopted political philosophy…” and you accused me of projecting?
You lying little weasel.
You sneer at me when I state, clearly and concisely, repeatedly, over and over, a very principled stand for an understood and adopted political philosophy, which I do all the time. For you to claim I do not is the most blatant, spineless, low-life lie you have told for a while, and this is a new low even for a bottom feeder like you.
I am clear, concise and coherent about my political philosophy, and you can’t even man up enough to state any reason for voting for anyone other than a litany of stupid, bogus, Lefty claims that have been so thoroughly and repeatedly debunked only a dedicated moron could keep vomiting them up.
Are you really going to complain that I do not state a clear and concise political philosophy? That I do not define a political philosophy as the best way to govern the nation? That you do not know what my political philosophy IS?
OK, you spineless little weasel—a challenge.
I will state mine, and then you state yours. Yep, I’ll show you mine if you’ll show me yours.
Ready?
I believe that the best blueprint for governing the United States of America is the Constitution of the United States of America, which demands a federal government which is severely restricted as to size, scope and power, with most political power in the nation retained by the States, or by the People.
I can go on, you know. I HAVE gone on, as you know. I have gone on to explain that the Constitution laid out seventeen enumerated duties of the federal government, with the intention that these duties be the ONLY duties of the federal government. I have explained the belt-and-suspenders approach to writing the Constitution as shown by the 10th Amendment, which then goes on to say that if something is not DELEGATED to the federal government by the Constitution, or prohibited by the Constitution, it is allowed only to the States or to the People.
What is YOUR political philosophy? How do you define YOUR choice of how to govern this nation?
So tell me, you lying little weasel, just how this often-repeated statement of a coherent political position is in any way a projection of not having “…….a principled stand for an understood and adopted political philosophy….”
You are so juvenile. When you see something that rubs you the wrong way—-that is, evidently, a political truth that does not fit into your fan-club mentality regarding the Left—-your response is always something as infantile as your response that I was “projecting”. It is always as mature and reasoned and intelligent as this. I am sure even your middle schoolers are more mature than this.
If you are referring to my name-calling, well, I do label you as I see you, you and your fellow travelers and your lying and your hate-mongering and your libeling and your viciousness. If I am wrong about you and your kind, prove it.
So far all you do is support everything I say about you.
Mr Bowman,
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and considering that you imitate me at almost every opportunity, I say thank you for the complement. Stick with me kid, I can teach you a lot.
Dave is on a spam list and when the blog is scanned for spam his posts are deleted. Responding to them only leaves his footprints on the blog. //Moderator
http://www.redstate.com/2012/09/07/book-mafia-hit-man-teamster-boss-helped-joe-biden-become-u-s-senator/
“In the fascinating biography of Teamsters and Mafia hit-man Frank Sheeran, “I Heard You Paint Houses,” the lifelong thug describes a favor he performed while he was president of Teamsters Local 326 in Wilmington, Delaware.
In 1972 Sheeran received a visit from “a very prominent lawyer” he knew who was “very big in the Democratic Party” in Delaware. The November general election was approaching, and the race for the U.S. Senate seat held by a Republican was expected to be close. The lawyer wanted help in preventing the distribution of a paid Republican political ad – an insert in the Delaware-wide newspapers – that would run for a week and expose the campaign misrepresentations by the Democratic challenger. Sheeran promised the operative that he “would hire some people and put them on the picket line.” He added, “People nobody would mess with.”
The picket line went up, the papers were not delivered all week, and, as Sheeran said, “The day after the election the informational picket line came down, and the newspaper went back to normal and Delaware had a new United States Senator.” His name was Joe Biden. Thereafter, said admitted extortionist, thief and murderer Sheeran, of Biden, “You could reach out for him, and he would listen.” [Emphasis added.]
Speaking of making, mining and growing things, this chart shows that after a non-stop decline in manufacturing jobs during the entire George W. Bush administration, the US has been steadily adding manufacturing jobs the last three years.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2012/05/manufacturing-employment-in-the-u-s/
watstooge
Boooooossssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
BDS and low IQ on the net for all to see; PRICELESS
What does being a person of faith have to do with being an informed voter Cluster?
Up thread, Casper tried to equate Obama’s visitation of the Colorado shooting victims to that of Romney’s visitation and eulogy of the 14 year old boy with cancer.
Casper, can you think of why those two incidences are not even close to being similar?
cluster
Casper, can you think
could have stopped there.:)
what a nitwit….
Obama Pulls a Biden: ‘Three Proud Words: Made in the USA’
I’m sure you would prefer made in China neocon1.
duane valeline
Im sure you are a Moron, duane
I can. One was a horrific mass murder by a mentally ill person and the other (equally as sad) was a death caused by a disease. A disease that just might be eradicated by using the laughable liberal notion of science and stem cell research. And who is to say that Romney’s visitation wasn’t self-serving?
self-serving
See, you do know the difference
Yeah, mitche, except the “liberal notion” of EMBRYONIC stem cell research (which was, by the way, never banned ) actually CAUSED cancer.
You guys are so transparent. The only stem cell research that floated your boats was what would depend on killing babies, and this was an abject failure.
It was never outlawed, but the science was so shaky that it could not attract much investment from private sources, and even that fell apart when it was proved that these embryonic stem cells grew so rapidly and uncontrollably that they created horrible problems and killed people.
In the meantime, stem cells from umbilical cords and adult stem cells have proved to be of immense help and promise.
The problem with this research is, to people like you, it doesn’t depend on killing human beings first.
But you are right—embryonic stem cell research WAS a “…laughable liberal notion of science …”—though the people it killed didn’t really laugh that much.
USA is not a word. It is an acronym. And in case some of you missed yesterdays highlights, courtesy of the esteemed gay conservative….
http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/09/have-the-conventions-changed-the-race.html
Mitch,
I don’t think you ever answered my question from yesterday. Are you one of Andrew’s lovers? Because when I ridiculed him, you became viciously defensive. Is there more to your relationship with Andrew than we currently know?
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
LOL
BINGO…..
It is easy to ridicule people who are vastly more intelligent than you, because all you can offer is ridicule in a feeble attempt to make yourself look “smart”. Maybe you should debate him. Wasn’t it YOU that chalanged Rachel Madow (another gay) to a debate?? I’d pay for both of them. Want my routing #?
lil BmitchtheKID
It is easy to ridicule people who are vastly more intelligent than you,
these soooooo smart people cant differentiate an exit from an entrance….ROTFLMAO….
Wasn’t it YOU that chalanged Rachel Madow (another gay) to a debate??
No it’s Chris Matthews. I have sent him numerous emails via the MSNBC website asking to be invited on his show as an everyday conservative for a debate. No word back, not that I expect any.
And please get a sense of humor.
duane vaseline
HUH???
The only difference between modern conservatives and the conservative hosing people in Alabama in the 1960s is the “hosers” murderers, segregationists, in the 1960’s were DEMOCRATS and not conservative.
Oh boy! Next thing you know, Neo will attack pizza!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/09/obama-picked-up-photo_n_1868870.html
I just did…Domino’s yummy
Domino’s is actually pretty good! Have you had their Hawaiian pizza? Complete with BBQ sauce, Canadian bacon and pineapple? OH! And an official birth certificate comes with every order….
seems they LOST their official BC today……. a what was that about Hawaii? pizza
“….an official birth certificate comes with every order…….”
“Official”, eh? You mean as official as Barry’s?
BTW, the reference to BBQ sauce on a Hawaiian pizza is clearly code for “black”……
“”I don’t vote party line, I vote who I feel comfortable with, …”
Now there’s a mental giant for you—he doesn’t vote for who will do the best job of governing the country, based on his personal political ideology, but on who he feels COMFORTABLE with!
COMFORTABLE!!!!!
Maybe a little high-leg tingle?
they were pretty close….
Obama Campaign Sues to Restrict Military Voting
uh huh
Wrong wrong wrong wrong wrong. Once again, you don’t know of what you speak. Period.
Here’s a good read Mitch. I know how much you like to read:
http://www.dickmorris.com/the-real-poll-numbers/
Okay Cluster here’s a little tip about polling. I don’t care what the source is or what their political affiliation is. The most current numbers trump anything from a month ago. I don’t care about opinions that make me feel good about my chosen canddiate from July because they are meaningless in october. If Romney can’t win Florida, Michigan and Ohio he loses. it’s that simple
really KID?
tell us
Hey mitche, you ducked away from that “….laughable liberal notion of science …”” thing. And here I thought you were going to come back with a list of all the successes of embryonic stem cell research or something.
Uh-oh—-got your donkey handed to you. Again. Ya gotta hate it when that happens—especially when it happens so often.
I guess there is nothing to do when it happens but start some silly nonsense about pizza.
Keep up the confidence Victory.
TALKING POINT ALERT!!! TALKING POINT ALERT!!! BEWARE! THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS NOTHING BUT A DNC TALKING POINT
Latest Gallup is 49-44. The electoral college predictions are even more brutal for corporate person Romney.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/2012_elections_electoral_college_map.html
A false sense of security comforts small minds, so I am happy for you Victory.
VfA reminds me of the German people rooting for hitler…….. how did that end again?
Yup
Hate to tell you this Neocon1 but reagan wouldn’t have beaten Romney for the nomination this year.
duane vaseline
hate to tell you this but you are full of BS
Brutal brutal brutal, all right.
The challenger is down by 30 electoral college votes on this “BRUTAL” map, with 126 toss-up votes, a week or so after his official nomination, before he has had a chance to start a serious ad campaign with the newly released RNC money.
Ooooooh! Scawy!!!!!!!
And of Obama’s supposed 221 votes, 48 are just “leans Obama” states, while Florida, Michigan and North Carolina are toss-up states—that is, 29 votes, 16 votes, and 15 votes.
If I were to guess which candidate would be sweating this supposedly BRUTAL electoral map, it would be Barry.
“Corporate person” is apparently supposed to be a pejorative, while evidently “radical Leftist activist” is not.
Hey Victory! Have you seen this?
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
TALKING POINT ALERT!!! TALKING POINT ALERT!!! BEWARE! THE FOLLOWING COMMENT IS NOTHING BUT A DNC TALKING POINT
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/
BTW, did you see Romney start to embrace Obamacare on Meet the Press today?
He’s moving to the middle just like “etch a sketch” Mitt always does!
The Rev Wright issue never was essential, at least for the media. Do you not remember 2008?
Here may be a disconcerting read for the small minded Obama bots. Mitch doesn’t like Dick Morris. I assume it’s because he disagrees with him.
http://www.dickmorris.com/the-real-poll-numbers/
BmitchtheKID
wasnt he Klintoons bud in those days?
can you say CE GAR fetish?
ROTFLMAO……..
Looking forward to the Vice Presidential debate. Ryan will challenge the choo choo to count to 100 and will instantly win.
Looking forward to around 11:00pm CST the night of November 6, 2012. That’s when queen mooch will no longer be proud of her country.
🙂