9/11 Twenty Two Years On

What went wrong? Why did that horrific event cause so many other horrific events, resulting in a lost war and a panicked flight from Kabul?

Did you know the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on that fateful day retired to various sinecures in the education and corporate world? He also endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2008; in an astonishing bit of absurdity calling her someone who understood what being in the military is like.

The Director of the CIA? Was given the Presidential Medal of Freedom when he retired in 2004. He also retired to various sinecures in the education and corporate worlds. Got a book deal, too. Oh, and later on offered biting criticism of W. Bush who awarded him that medal.

The FBI Director? That was Bob Mueller. You guessed it: after he retired he was the beneficiary of multiple education and corporate sinecures. And of course dredged up to lend a patina of credibility to the ridiculous Trump-Russia fraud.

So, to review: the people in charge of our military, foreign intelligence and domestic federal law enforcement on 9/11 – the people on who’s watch 3,000 Americans were massacred – all retired to cushy positions of power and influence. That is what went wrong. These three men should have been shot; and if we were feeling merciful after THREE THOUSAND of us were murdered due to their negligence, sent to jail for life. But, they not only didn’t suffer, they were rewarded for their abject failure.

You get what you pay for; we pay (through the nose) for incompetence and corruption…and so we’re awash in incompetence and corruption.

Bet you haven’t heard of Frank Wuterich all that much. You see, when he was a 25 year old Marine in 2005 his unit was hit by an IED in Anbar province and then a lot of shooting happened – as one might expect when an armed unit suddenly has a bomb explode among them – which resulted in civilian deaths. The initial report indicated that the dead civilians were caught in a crossfire but then people started claiming that the Marines – our Marines; soldiers of our United States Marine Corps; not Nazi Einsatzgruppen, but our Marines – deliberately targeted civilians. You know; because fresh-faced American kids who volunteer to fight for America are just the same as bloodthirsty Nazi savages. Given the nature of the beast at that time, the military opened an investigation and brought war crimes charges against 8 Marines. After a lot of years most of the charges against the defendants were dropped with Wuterich getting convicted of dereliction of duty. Because, you know, our Marines don’t go around massacring civilians. Because they’re American Marines. The good guys.

So, think about it: while those responsible for the criminal failure to stop 9/11 were awash in money and fame, the poor bastards we sent out to clean up their mess were being charged with war crimes…not because crimes happened, but because the political Left in the USA and around the world said war crimes were happening and our government went along with this. Who was the Marine’s CO in Iraq at the time? James Mattis; you know, the guy we thought was a rough, tough non-nonsense Marine when Trump appointed him Secretary of Defense. We should have checked a bit – but even in 2017 we were still rather starry eyed about our military officers. But the fact that Mattis agreed to court martial troops who – at worst – fired perhaps in a bit of panic when under fire should have told us just what sort of man he really was long before he resigned in protest against Trump’s effort to end our involvement in the Syrian Civil War. After his resignation, you guessed it, he landed a corporate sinecure. Mattis put his own Marines through hell because some Commie somewhere shouted “war crime!” even though Mattis must have known his Marines were not criminals. And then, apparently lacking any conscience at all, went off to a well paid retirement.

So, what went wrong? What happened to an event which united us all in righteousness? It was taken over by the corrupt, the cruel and incompetent. And when we at last had enough and voted in a man to change the system, that system broke the law to get him out of office. That is what went wrong.

66 thoughts on “9/11 Twenty Two Years On

  1. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook September 11, 2023 / 10:52 am

    The only thing that’s in question, IMO, about the individuals you note who were rewarded in retirement is whether they were incompetent, corrupt, or a combination of the two. I suspect it’s the latter. I think most people would be astonished at how few people serve in the highest levels of government out of a sense of duty to country. If it were not so, we would not be in the shape we’re in.

  2. Amazona's avatar Amazona September 11, 2023 / 1:35 pm

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook September 11, 2023 / 1:37 pm

      Classic!

  3. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 11, 2023 / 1:57 pm

    The lack of accountability in nearly every sector is Americas biggest problem, and it permeates throughout our culture. No one is ever held accountable, well except for those who oppose the Establishment … and that really is the only punishable crime currently in America. Take a look at Lori Lightfoot, who is possibly Americas worst Mayor in history … she just failed upwards, as has Valeri Jarret, Barack Obama, Bill DeBlasio, Eric Adams, Brandon Johnson, etc, etc. the list is endless.

    I also present to you the Congress (both chambers), as an excellent example of never being held accountable. I would wager to say that 80% off all current Congress critters have been there for well over 20 years, and in that time, we have gone $31 trillion in debt, engaged in senseless wars, ushered in millions of low skill uneducated people, destabilized inner cities, enflamed racial tensions, shipped off good paying jobs, and essentially have not one damn thing to improve the lives of the American people. Life in America is demonstrably worse today then it was in the 1990’s, and the same people are still making the decisions.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 11, 2023 / 6:12 pm

      They are sure lucky their oaths of office are merely window dressing with no real accountability for violating them.

  4. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 11, 2023 / 2:18 pm

    If you are on twitter, or X, please follow this little fuck and make as many condescending comments as you possibly can on every single one of his posts.

    A leader of a Chicago communist group called a controversial Jason Aldean song a ‘straight up white supremacist lynching song’ and a ‘rallying cry for civil war’ before he protested his concert by burning American flags. Last month, Revolution Club’s Rafael Kadaris appeared on a video discussing Aldean’s ‘anti-Woke’ song Try That in a Small Town, which has been called ‘racist’ by critics

    THEY are the violent ones, and THEY need to be held accountable.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 11, 2023 / 10:36 pm

      ummm. isn’t that guy inciting violence by referencing “civil war” as a reaction to that song, and then burning American flags? Doesn’t that sound a lot like sedition?

  5. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 11, 2023 / 2:22 pm

    DEFUND THE SYSTEM

    This jackass and complete failure just said the quiet part out loud. It’s not about improving lives, it’s about “funding the system”

  6. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 11, 2023 / 4:42 pm

    “I don’t want to contain China” – American President Joe Biden. And we all know why.

    And allow me to mention one other thing – after a 20 year war in Afghanistan against the Taliban … today the Taliban is stronger than they’ve ever been as well as being one of the best armed terrorist group in the world. That’s because there is NO accountability in this country

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 11, 2023 / 8:18 pm

      there is NO accountability in this country

      Agreed. Any ideas on how to change this?

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook September 11, 2023 / 8:34 pm

        Over the last couple of weeks you’ve (Amazona) outlined a number of common sense measures that would probably get us back on sound footing long term, but I think we’re probably past the point where voting for people we hope will fix the problem is a viable solution. There are just too many people who either don’t care or actually like the status quo to affect the kind of change we need via the normal political process. I hate to say it, and I’m certainly not advocating for it, but I think we’re going to have to go through some kind of financial and/or societal collapse. If, as many are predicting, the dollar ceases to be the world reserve currency, that will set up a collapse that will make the Great Depression seem like a hiccup. We’ll turn into a third world country overnight, and millions of desperate people are likely to resort to desperate measures. Think Portland times 1,000. As a local talk show host said this afternoon, movies like Escape from LA and Escape from New York will become documentaries.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 11, 2023 / 9:31 pm

        I just keep going back to some basic changes that could be made via Executive Orders that would be in place for at least four years, hopefully with enough impact to shift voting for the 2028 election and getting a bigger majority in Congress.

        What I think a DeSantis presidency could accomplish in less than a month:

        Extensive overhaul of the DOJ starting with the Obama tactic of demanding a letter of resignation from every DOJ attorney and then rehiring only those who will comply with new policies, with the serious message that anyone in the department who puts politics above the law will be fired.

        Message to the DOJ to investigate and prosecute the crimes ignored by the Biden administration, including crimes like paying rioters to cross state lines and providing rioters with weapons, as well as crimes committed by government officials, including using federal agencies to act against political opposition

        Message to the DOJ that crimes which are against the federal government, including rioting that attacks federal buildings and the kinds of anti-government rhetoric we saw from Antifa, et al, will be prosecuted very aggressively. Any local official who refuses to enforce the law regarding violence, arson, destruction of private property, etc will have to deal with prosecution for obstruction of justice etc. One season of rioters being arrested, held, arraigned and charged and prosecuted for their crimes will do a lot to change that dynamic.

        Message that officials who refuse to obey the laws, enforce the laws, or interfere with law enforcement will be prosecuted on the same terms as the J6 defendants. This would include governors, mayors, sheriffs, and attorneys general.

        Pardons of the J6 defendants

        Revocation of every Biden EO

        Reinstatement of the Trump EOs that wiped out so many restrictive regulations put in place by agencies.

        New EO stating that any person who entered the country illegally in the past four years will be arrested if found still here–but that because the United States has a moral responsibility for inciting their illegal entries we will pay some travel expenses to return to their native lands if they leave within four months.

        EO to immediately resume border security including aggressive arrests of attempted illegal crossings and building barriers

        As Commander in Chief, immediately fire all flag officers responsible for the shift in military focus and policy and advance warriors to flag office status, with the revision of our military mission statement to include the ability to defend the nation.

        A detailed plan to slash the size and scope of federal agencies and resettle every one of them outside the Beltway. Get rid of some agencies, combine others, get them all back to their original charters and get them out of the Corruption Alley of the Beltway.

        Let the blue cities rot. No federal aid. They get what they voted for.

        These actions, all within the purview of the Executive Branch, would make a huge difference in the arc of the country. Within a month we could have oil and gas exploration energized and back on track, stupid restrictive “environmental” regulations removed if they are not justifiable by objective analytical science, a revitalized military that would probably show a big uptick in enlistments and higher morale as well as effectiveness, a massive egress of illegal aliens and a protected border, among other things. None of these require Congress to act. Certainly it would help to have Congress eventually codify these EOs into legislated law, but if the result were to be an energized GOP and a citizenry willing to consider voting for the party that fixes things we would have a good shot at getting an effective Congress.

        Add to this some serious ass-kicking in Congress to get them in line to pass important legislation, especially anything within the scope of federal authority to impose consistent and rigid rules regarding national elections.

        We know how much of the damage to the nation has happened in the past three years, and how much has been due to various correctible policies, so I don’t agree with the doom and gloom that it can’t be turned around.

        And if we have to invent an alternative to the RNC, then do it.

        Naturally, it would help to have some of the Republican billionaires step up to the plate and give us a media voice so the nation could hear what is really happening and why. They could buy out the 39% controlling interest in Fox owned by the Murdochs, they could buy NBC from Disney, there are all sorts of things that their money could to do to provide a voice to the Right. All of this would risk being drowned out by the rising hysteria of the Left without a way to counter it with explanations and facts.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 11, 2023 / 9:52 pm

        I have given one idea to impose accountability, which would be to make the oath of office binding so anyone violating it would lose his or her office and associated benefits. This was roundly shot down, mostly by the argument that it “could be abused”. Of course it could. To cite Cluster’s argument, we could deal with that as it arose.

        It seems to me that after a few years of seeing laws blatantly abused, such as the much-beloved-by-the-Left 18 USC 2384, “If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.” we should be less fretful about the possibility of a law being misapplied.

        My attitude: Pass it, apply it, and analyze any defects and correct them. And in the meantime get rid of a lot of Leftist dead weight. But that’s just me……

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 11, 2023 / 9:34 pm

        That’s the $64,000 question, isn’t it? A lot of it will depend on what Spook just wrote about, the electorate, and surprisingly I hold a slightly more optimistic view, but not much lol. There’s no question many people will overlook corruption and keep voting for their entitlements, but I think there is a growing opposition to the status quo. Trump TOLD everybody about the Establishment but Biden is SHOWING everybody who the Establishment really is, and there is a growing awareness and animosity. The best way to hold them accountable of course, is at the ballot box, and that may happen. Aside from that, there’s not much we can do other than civil disobedience. Just don’t comply.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 11, 2023 / 10:29 pm

        At the ballot box: Why not use their tactics against them?

        Here’s a spur-of-the-moment idea: Flood the ballot counting areas with tens of thousands of bogus ballots, all with pretty obvious fake signatures or no signatures or no postmarks, all the things that the Left has accepted and approved. Stand over them, pointing out defects and saying “you can’t accept that, it says Mickey Mouse in Latin” or some such thing, so they have a really hard time separating the bogus envelopes they are supposed to accept from those they know they shouldn’t. Get them so rattled they start to reject everything.

        And have every one of the bogus votes inside the bogus envelopes marked in some way—invisible ink, meta data, whatever—so when scanned they very clearly show up as bogus, so there can’t be any claim there was an effort to change the count of legitimate votes, just an effort to show how feeble and ineffective screening of mail-in-envelopes is. Just Alinsky the hell out of them. They succeed through chaos and too much going on to control the situation, so take their own control away from them.

        Pressure state legislatures to demand IDs from people dropping off ballots at drop boxes. Sally wants to drop off ten ballots? No problem. She just shows her photo ID and fills out a simple form with the names of the voters whose ballots she is dropping off, she signs it, and she’s good to go. It’s just complying with the requirement for chain of custody of votes. No big deal. Of course Sally then knows, and her masters know, that every name on that list can and will be contacted to confirm that they authorized Sally to deliver those votes. No big deal—they might all agree that yes, they did send their votes with her—but it’s a bit of oversight and a little pressure on Sally if she wants to cheat. Of course this would require a lot of personal effort from Conservatives, to monitor those drop boxes and scan those photo IDs and get those forms filled out. And it would require security to protect those people.

        Most of all, raise ten kinds of hell about “certifying” numbers known to be inaccurate. Make it known that officials will be sued, as individuals, for election fraud and false certification if they can’t provide compelling evidence that they should have accepted the numbers given to them as fundamentally accurate. Demand state legislatures address this. Demand a formal metric for certification—if there is proof that more than a certain percentage of the votes is inaccurate, the total cannot be certified. Or a certain hard number. If the margin of victory is 15,000 votes and there is proof that 16,000 votes were invalid, then the vote total can’t be certified. I keep coming back to Arizona. They KNEW something like 4000 out of state people voted and something like 4000 people voted twice and 4000 unregistered people voted (I’m not going to go back and look up the exact numbers) but still the legislature, or the secretary of state, “certified” a number known to be false. We can’t let that kind of sloppiness and/or illegality go on. If there is any area where we should work extra hard to avoid errors it is in our elections.

        We keep running around flapping our hands and fretting about how big the problems are but many of them can be addressed a small metric at a time. And remember, most who participate in the frauds are not hard-core criminals, but average citizens who fudge a little here and then cheat a little there but are not willing to take the fall for the big guys. That’s where to put the pressure.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 8:47 am

        Are you a stickler for Constitutional ethics Forty? As well as being an expert on seditious conspiracies … lmao. And be careful today … remember Donald Trump is still a free man and a direct threat to our “democracy”. It’s a democracy right?

  7. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 8:39 am

    Flood the ballot counting areas with tens of thousands of bogus ballots, all with pretty obvious fake signatures or no signatures or no postmarks

    Hell yes. Much like the Democrats are ushering in millions of low skilled, uneducated people to try and financially cripple the country, why not cripple the election system? In fact print so many ballots that they become worthless, just like Biden is doing to our dollar. This is how we destroy them, turn their tactics back on them. As well as confronting them in public, online, or any other venue. Make them feel stupid and uncomfortable.

    Then when we win, we prosecute and imprison. And I mean this with all sincerity. We need to purge the system. Convict and impoverish all of them for hijacking this country for personal profit and gain at the expense of lower income Americans. I want them all to pay.

  8. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 9:07 am

    If we wait long enough, Democrat coalitions will begin eating themselves. I’m just not sure we have the time, but currently, the struggling black families in Chicago are now having to take a backseat to illegal immigrants, and the hard working union people of California are now being asked to subsidize black people who have zero connection to slavery. Eventually, all of these special interests will collapse upon themselves.

    Majority of California voters do NOT support cash reparations for slavery – after Gov Newsom’s task force recommended residents be given $5million handout

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12506221/Majority-California-voters-NOT-support-cash-reparations-slavery-Gov-Newsoms-task-force-recommended-residents-given-5million-handout.html

  9. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 9:38 am

    Rudy did exactly the right thing. Do not stand next to them, do not be friends with them, do not talk with them, isolate them, and mock them at every opportunity, They are not our friends or our allies. Democrats are the primary enemy of Faith based American conservatives. Make no mistake about that

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/i-couldnt-take-it-anymore-i-just-couldnt/

  10. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 10:24 am

    While the ugly black bitch in GA continues to persecute Trump, let’s take a look at the voter fraud she is ignoring:

    2,056 felons illegally voted
    66,248 under 18 voted
    2,423 weren’t registered at all
    1,043 used a PO Box
    4,926 voted past the reg. date
    15,700 moved out of state
    40,279 changed county and didn’t re-register to vote

    Now we all know that Forty is a stickler for ballot integrity, so I’m sure it/they/xi or whatever pronoun it goes by will object to this malfeasance. Right?

    https://x.com/CitizenFreePres/status/1701581805449589209?s=20

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 10:53 am

      Biden went into the Georgia recount with a margin of 13,558 votes, according to votes tallied by NBC News. Previously uncounted ballots discovered during the hand count reduced the margin to 12,284 votes, the Georgia secretary of state’s office reported.

      So Biden “won” Georgia by fewer votes than represented by voters who had moved out of the state but voted anyway.

      There has to be a way to vet ballots before they are counted and moved into the fungible stream of accepted votes. but Georgia didn’t seem to care. How can people under the age of 18 vote, if they have not been allowed to illegally register? Oh, that’s right—Georgia didn’t really care about voter registration accuracy.

      And this is just Georgia. Pennsylvania trucked in tens of thousands of filled-in ballots from New York. Remember the “explanation” for those ballots? It was, in the best condescending Kamala Harris tone, that people apply for absentee ballots and then mail them back and these were just those absentee ballots, nothing to see here folks. What she didn’t “explain” was how or why an absentee ballot for a Pennsylvania voter would be mailed to a small New York post office instead of to Pennsylvania, much less how or why tens of thousands of them would be sent to this one post office.

      Michigan police started investigating what their records called criminal activity, “Election Fraud by Forgery”, but when the FBI took over the investigation it mysteriously disappeared. The company involved, GBI Strategies, is headquartered in Tennessee and also has offices in Georgia, New York, and Philadelphia. It received millions of dollars in 2020 from Democrat and leftist groups, including the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, DNC Services Corp., and Joe Biden’s presidential campaign.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 11:21 am

      IN AZ, it has been proven that tens of thousands of ballots had no signature verification and thousands more were from bogus addresses, in a State Biden narrowly, BUT we are extremists to even questions that according to the regime.

      They stole the election, and that is undeniable.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 11:33 am

        If this was known before the state “certified” the official vote count, the certifying entity committed fraud. I think in Arizona this is the Secretary of State. In some states it is the state legislature. We need to hold each and every entity accountable for false certification.

        I haven’t seen this approach tried before, but this time we should present the certifying entity what whatever proofs we have of invalid ballots being accepted and counted and demand that the official count be rejected as inaccurate and therefore uncertifiable—with lawsuits for false certification and demands that it be prosecuted, as in most if not all states false certification is a crime.

  11. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 11:26 am

    Let the Impeachment Inquiry begin !!!!

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 1:45 pm

      Goody, goody, now we will get President Harris!

      Well, no we won’t, because he will not be removed from office. We will just go through the motions of proving him to be a crook, as if it will make any difference as he won’t be the candidate we are running against anyway, but it will just feel soooooo good to do it.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 2:30 pm

        It’s not a “feel good” thing at all … it’s what law abiding people are required to do. This level of corruption demands action, regardless how it plays out politically. There’s never a wrong time to do the right thing.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 3:12 pm

        It has nothing to do with “how it plays out politically”. I wonder if you are snide on purpose or don’t realize how you come across, but you do have a tendency to dismiss my observations on the condescending grounds of some weakness or passivity on my part.

        I just wonder what can be accomplished by an impeachment. If Biden is the candidate, then yes, such an exposition of his crimes would be important in the next election. But as there is such a slight chance he will be, what exactly will be accomplished by going through this? He won’t be removed from office, he won’t be prosecuted because of his age and the dementia we keep reminding people of, and it won’t affect the election if he is not the candidate.

        If he is replaced as a candidate, the best we could hope for would be for a lot of former Biden supporters to realize they were wrong—-and be happy he isn’t the candidate this time around so they can still vote Dem . So the ONLY thing an impeachment might influence would be a Biden candidacy.

        “Law abiding people” are not required to engage in elaborate virtue signaling just to prove how law abiding they are. An impeachment is a serious matter, in spite of the Kabuki theater the Left has made out of impeachment “hearings”. It should have a goal. As no impeachment of Biden is going to remove him from office, and as he is not likely to be the candidate next time around nothing that is brought out about his corruption can be attributed to the guy we will really be running against, what is the goal here?

        There are people who can and should be impeached, where impeachment would actually accomplish something more than self-congratulation for being super duper law abiding, starting with Garland.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 3:19 pm

        We should be focusing on the wrongs Biden did AS PRESIDENT. On his Executive Orders, shutting down oil and gas exploration and extraction, shutting down the country on the pretext of protecting us from a virus, funneling billions of dollars to Big Pharma while giving it legal protection from liability for the damages caused by its products, gutting the military, etc.

        On things that can be attributed both to him as an individual and to the party he represents, so his actions can also affect the way his replacement can be portrayed. On the damage done to the nation that will be continued by his successor if that person is also a Democrat.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 4:01 pm

        Well you say “it has nothing to do with how it plays out politically”, and then you spent the next two paragraphs detailing how it would play out politically. I just think it’s time to start doing the right things in this country because we are doing so many things wrong. The evidence demands an inquiry, and then let it go from there to it’s natural conclusion.

        I however believe that Biden will be the nominee … he is the head of the party and his ego will not allow him to bow out. Plus he may have to pardon Hunter, and I think we are getting too close to the election for the Democrats to do anything about him. This excludes the possibility of him unexpectedly dying, and with the Clinton’s still around, anything could happen.

        And it’s not virtue signaling and the goal is to expose Biden and overall government corruption, specifically of foreign aid, which we all know is massive.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 4:32 pm

        I just don’t see a benefit in going through something that is not going to make any real difference other than allow some of us to be self-congratulatory for fighting the good fight.

        We already know that a majority of Dems don’t want Biden to run again. So if we line up a lot of proofs of corruption over the years and the House finds him guilty then the Democrat Party just has to kick him to the curb, run someone else and say “Yeah, he really did do a lot of bad stuff. Good thing he’s not our candidate, isn’t it?” And we can do some victory laps and high-five each other for “doing the right thing” and admire each other’s halos, but without accomplishing a single thing while the Dems have a fresh new face to pimp to its base as the new Not-Trump.

        We might even be doing the Left a favor by getting rid of the anchor dragging it down in the polls without the party having to take responsibility for axing that nice old man.

        The two paragraphs you describe as “detailing how it would play out politically” do not address the political advantages or fallout for the Right in going through an impeachment process, what I consider “detailing how it would play out politically”. They merely point out that the process will not achieve anything.

        But that’s fine, for people with the attitude of just barging ahead without first considering consequences and outcomes, with the idea that we’ll just deal with that all when we get to it. It’s just that the past wrongs of Biden are not what we should be focusing on right now, and I think we’re being played by being herded into thinking that is the most important thing on our plate.

        The Left throws a ball, and we chase it. Then they throw another ball, and we chase it. Then they pretend to throw a ball and we go howling off into the trees looking for that one. We never stand back and wonder why the ball is so important, or what else we should really be paying attention to. Then all of a sudden it’s election time, and we are totally unprepared. But we had us a hell of a good impeachment!

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 4:39 pm

        the goal is to expose Biden and overall government corruption, and impeaching Biden will expose overall government corruption…how?

        specifically of foreign aid …how? And why is this imperative right before the most important election in our history?

        Biden doesn’t have to step down. You say we are getting too close to the election for the Democrats to do anything about him but he can be replaced if he dies, or is claimed to have had a stroke, or even if a new medical diagnosis says he isn’t competent to run. All they have to do is nominate for VP the person they want to replace him and it’s a simple matter of shifting that person to the top of the ticket.

        You have a blissfully simplistic view of the world, with a little too much dependence on Magical Thinking to impress me.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 4:04 pm

        We should be focusing on the wrongs Biden did AS PRESIDENT. On his Executive Orders, shutting down oil and gas exploration and extraction, shutting down the country on the pretext of protecting us from a virus, funneling billions of dollars to Big Pharma while giving it legal protection from liability for the damages caused by its products, gutting the military, etc.

        Executive orders aside, these actions are why Democrat constituents voted for him in the first place. This is what they want.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 4:45 pm

        Are you saying that Democrats actually voted to have the country controlled by one person in office in DC who can issue edicts by the stroke of a pen, and that they wanted Big Pharma to be unconstrained in its profit-seeking by giving it government protection? That they thought about this and made those decisions?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 4:44 pm

        There’s no reason for us to converse anymore

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 4:48 pm

        Challenges hurt, eh?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 4:51 pm

        No, it’s the bitchiness that’s unappealing.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 6:25 pm

        Then stop being bitchy. It is particularly unappealing coming from a man

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 6:31 pm

        There are different ways to respond to having an opinion or belief challenged.

        One is to stop and think it over to see if there is something to consider in the challenge.
        One is to regroup and respond with an explanation of the original position that introduces new information, as what was used to support it originally clearly was not considered compelling
        One is to admit that while the objection does have some merit, you still find the original conclusion to be correct
        One is to just dig in and keep repeating the original assertions without adding to them or amplifying them.
        One is to refuse to discuss it at all
        And one is to insult the other person

  12. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 4:22 pm

    Communism really is taking over the Democrat party

    The newly elected Mayor Johnson, who took over from his disastrous predecessor Lori Lightfoot in May of this year, wants to push a hike in taxes in order to fight homelessness in the city. Allies of Mayor Johnson, 47, have also announced plans to push a $12-billion plan for the city titled ‘First We Get the Money’. Johnson believes people that own properties worth $1 million in the third-largest city in the U.S. are ‘rich, and should pay if they sell those homes.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 4:43 pm

      Well, the party has a long way to go to get to actual communism, which is a political and economic doctrine that aims to replace private property and a profit-based economy with public ownership and communal control of at least the major means of production (e.g., mines, mills, and factories) and the natural resources of a society.

      But it’s moving farther and farther to the Left in its assumption of the ability to redistribute the property of others and its disdain for private enterprise and profit.

  13. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 4:43 pm

    No comment needed

  14. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 5:37 pm

    The Impeachment inquiry is of course about the current POTUS, but it could expose something much much bigger. The culture of corruption in DC, which members of both parties engage in, is real and rampant. What the Biden’s have been doing is standard operating procedure in DC, hence the denial and deflection, including from those in the media. This is a threat to the status quo in DC. It must proceed.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 7:07 pm

      In a perfect world, the Republicans would avoid the grandstanding and camera-seeking the Dems showed and stick to serious business, and have an organized and coherent agenda. But given time and media constraints they will probably have to pick a lane and stay in it. Will it be Hunter and the Biden Crime Family benefiting from Joe’s status and access? That’s not a lane, it’s a six-lane freeway, so there will have to be some triage, some sorting of priorities. So the Covid scandals won’t make the cut, and the document thefts probably won’t either

      I’d like to see a foundation laid down of Kerry and Biden flying around the world handing out “aid” to countries where companies run by their sons follow behind to be awarded big contracts worth millions for vague and nebulous work done by a small company of inexperienced people. It’s not just Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, it’s Chris Heinz and John Kerry. The focus would probably have to be on the Ukraine/Burisma thing because it is so well known and there is testimony from principals plus something of a money trail.

      But I think it will be hard to implicate more than Biden and Kerry on the government side, and maybe Obama.

      Weaponization of federal agencies is going to have a much bigger impact but is harder to prove because there aren’t any undeniable fingerprints. However, as we won’t have months and months to do this, I suggest that this subject would have more bang for the buck because it hits closer to home.

      Politicians on the make? Ho hum, so what’s new? Siccing the FBI on parents for wanting to know what their kids are being taught? Much more personal and much more threatening. Claiming an election was “stolen”? Too easy to dismiss and ridicule. But pointing out that rigging is easier than stealing, and was done by hiding information and now by trying to interfere with the ability of people to choose who they want as president is something more people can relate to.

      And we have a head start, because so many people already hate the IRS, already distrust the FBI, have already suffered at the hands of some big impersonal and bullying agency. The theme “if they can do it there they can do it to you” is a lot easier to sell than some huge-number abstraction about the privilege of powerful people. People don’t like being lied to. It pisses them off. Get enough evidence of Big Government lying to people, stringing them along, and you will get a bigger reaction than learning that some other big shots have been engaged in some other scam to rip off some other billions of dollars. And if you’re not looking for a reaction why have the hearings at all.

      To me, this lane of enquiry would be a lot more productive and a lot more impressive than the whole billions-funneled-to-the-Bidens approach, as gratifying as it would be to expose it all.

      This is what I try to accomplish when I ask you questions or challenge your broad assertions, but you just don’t like that so it never goes anywhere. It’s easier to play the “because this is what law abiding people do so if you don’t agree you must not be as law abiding as we are” Moral Rectitude card, instead of taking a breath and examining things from different perspectives.

  15. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 5:42 pm

    Are you saying that Democrats actually voted to have the country controlled by one person in office in DC who can issue edicts by the stroke of a pen, and that they wanted Big Pharma to be unconstrained in its profit-seeking by giving it government protection?

    Yes, that’s exactly what I am saying. Democrats love executive orders, remember Obama saying he had a phone and pen? And Democrats loved the lock downs, they didn’t have to work. Democrats are in full support of what Joe Biden is doing. They’re only upset because he is ruining their party by being too old and frail.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 12, 2023 / 6:38 pm

      How many Democrats do you think know that the “vaccines” were never properly tested or approved by the FDA?

      How many Democrats do you think know that by allowing the drugs to stay on the market as Emergency Use authorized the companies cannot be sued for damages?

      How many Democrats do you think know of the many dangers of the drugs, and the damages experienced by so many?

      How many Democrats do you think know that the Biden administration hid the information about the dangers and damages while lying to the public about the alleged safety of the drugs, and having the government pay for advertising campaigns telling people to keep taking them?

      You are saying Democrats knew all this and approved of it. I don’t agree. And I don’t know how an impeachment is going to educate them about it, especially if it is not televised on the Agenda Media.

      Yes, Democrats love EOs when their party is in power. But that does not mean they know the details of things like the Covid scheme, lies and exposure of the public to great harm.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 12, 2023 / 8:53 pm

        Well I think Democrats are working with a shrinking base, all thanks to their destructive policies, so now is a good time to strike and expose them even more. I do think that there is a percentage of Democrat voters, and possibly a significant percentage, who will vote Democrat just out of spite to the “perceived other” as you mention so they overlook the destructive nature of their ideology. Currently though, the Democrat party is on very shaky ground, their coalitions are splintering and their mayors are sounding the alarm bells.

        This is the election cycle that the GOP candidate needs to go campaign in downtown Chicago, downtown LA, downtown Seattle, etc., and amplify what the Democrats have been doing that has negatively effected them. And make it personal. If done right, we could win in a landslide. The reason many Democrat voters are unaware, is because we don’t show up and let them know.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 13, 2023 / 8:33 am

        The reason many Democrat voters are unaware, is because we don’t show up and let them know.

        Which takes us back to my complaint that we just don’t have a voice.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook September 13, 2023 / 9:33 am

      WOW! Tell us how you really feel.

  16. Amazona's avatar Amazona September 13, 2023 / 9:34 am

    Sometimes a stroll through the Internet reveals some surprises.

    I was reading Kurt Schlichter’s column this morning, which I highly recommend, and then started to look up the laws he referenced regarding the crimes of interfering with Constitutional rights.

    18 U.S.C. § 241: Section 241 makes it unlawful for two or more persons to agree to injure, threaten, or intimidate a person in the United States in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his or her having exercised such a right.

    Unlike most conspiracy statutes, §241 does not require, as an element, the commission of an overt act.

    §242 makes it a crime for someone acting under color of law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States. It is not necessary that the offense be motivated by racial bias or by any other animus.

    Defendants act under color of law when they wield power vested by a government entity.

    His point is that with a *real* DOJ the Governor of New Mexico could be and should be prosecuted under one or both of these laws.

    All very interesting, but as I scrolled through the information I ran across this reference: The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr., Hate Crimes Prevention Act. Just a couple of days ago I was thinking of “things we “know” that just aren’t true” and of course at the top of the list is the elaborate fiction about how Matthew Shepard was just a shy confused boy who was murdered because he was gay. I had not realized this lie had gained such traction that an entire law was named after it.

    Matthew Shepard was a homosexual street whore/drug dealer who was killed by a fellow drug dealer after a $10,000 drug shipment disappeared and he was suspected of stealing it. He knew his killers, they knew him, they all sold sex and sold drugs and took drugs together. His homosexuality had nothing to do with his death. He was quite well established in the hustler/drug community in Laramie and not at all confused or shy about his sexual orientation. The entire fiction that was constructed around his death was a political ploy unrelated to fact, and it was successful enough to be memorialized in a law saying some lives are more important than others.

    But—–back to §242 —-it looks as if the governor could be charged and prosecuted for this crime. She won’t be, of course, being protected by the big D by her name, but she could be. And should be.

    I also ran across some interesting information about blocking highways that could, and should, be used to prosecute “protestors” but then that would only apply in a country where laws matter.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 13, 2023 / 9:39 am

      I did not know that about Matthew Shepard. Interesting and not surprised

      The entire fiction that was constructed around his death was a political ploy unrelated to fact, and it was successful enough to be memorialized in a law saying some lives are more important than others.

      See: George Floyd

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 13, 2023 / 9:38 am

      I wonder if he will prosecute her under 18 U.S.C. § 241 and/or 18 U.S.C. § 242.

      Nah, I don’t really. But he should.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook September 13, 2023 / 9:53 am

      I predict one of the most popular T-shirts in the next couple of years will be one that says “I will not comply,” or some variation of that. That phrase needs to be front and center in the American political lexicon.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 13, 2023 / 10:16 am

        I came here to post a quote from a letter to the editor in a Wyoming newspaper and this seems like an appropriate place for it: The writer refers to the “gap” between casting a vote and having that vote counted, such as the large gap between mailing a ballot and having that vote counted and even the shorter gap in machine voting.

        In America, if your lawful vote is negated by a fraudulent vote, government loses all legitimacy to you because it has stolen your only control over it.

        We have self-government here. Every citizen picks that government. If they negate or steal your vote, you owe them no allegiance, no obedience, no respect. They are criminal thugs who stole a position they did not earn. Their fraud negates their “election,” making them null and void and devoid of all power.

        The legal term is “Fraud vitiates everything.”

        It’s a fun irony that the cabal’s creation of fraudulent election gaps has pushed themselves into the abyss of negation.

        Leaders who benefited from election fraud have no power. Ignore them. Shun them. Negate them. Withhold your consent.

        They are nothing, pretending they are something.

        Let’s use every opportunity to lawfully remind them.

        In the meantime, let’s close every single election gap so this can never happen again.

  17. Cluster's avatar Cluster September 13, 2023 / 9:58 am

    I may start printing those now lol

    In the irony of all ironies …

    Biden’s White House is planning to send a letter to some of the country’s most prominent news organizations — including CNN, The New York Times, and Fox News — urging them to “ramp up their scrutiny” of House Republicans “for opening an impeachment inquiry based on lies.”

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 13, 2023 / 10:17 am

      They don’t even try to hide their determination to have the State control everything.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan September 13, 2023 / 9:49 pm

      First pass: why do they need to send a letter? The MSM is in the tank.

      Second look: huh, must mean the evidence of corruption is so solid that the WH is trying to get ahead of it and make sure the entire MSM helps cover it up.

  18. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook September 13, 2023 / 10:23 am

    Independent journalist Kyle Becker lays it out about as succinctly as possible:

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 13, 2023 / 11:14 am

      The evidence is overwhelming but in typical Orwellian fashion, the State agenda media still declares there’s no evidence. Hard to believe that’s where we are in 21st century America but I believe this is the “fundamental transformation” of this country that the Kenyan promised.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 13, 2023 / 2:55 pm

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  20. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook September 13, 2023 / 2:00 pm

    I’ve been hoping to see this announcement. I disagree with his statement that it’s time for a new generation of leaders. It’s just time for leaders – period.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona September 13, 2023 / 2:55 pm

      “You can’t fire me if I quit first!”

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster September 13, 2023 / 3:17 pm

      Lol exactly. Real leaders instead of weak yes men.

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