There Are no Non-Combatants

Julius Streicher was hung as a major war criminal at Nuremberg on October 16th, 1946. What did he do? Well, he didn’t kill any Jews. Didn’t organize shipments to death camps. Wasn’t a member of the SS or Gestapo. Wasn’t part of Hitler’s inner circle. He wasn’t even a member of the Sturmabteilung (SA) until he was made an honorary member in 1934. Heck, he hadn’t even had an official position in the Nazi government since 1940. So, what was it? Why did we bother executing him as one of the major war criminals?

Because he was the publisher of Der Sturmer. This was a hideously anti-Semitic rag which pushed the blood libel of the Jews and accused them of every manner of depravity. Basically, what Streicher did was set the stage for the Holocaust; he infected the German mind with the most vicious type of anti-Semitism so when it came time to round up the Jews and ship them off to camps, the Germans could tell themselves it was a good thing to do. The judgement of the Nuremberg Tribunal was that without people like Streicher, the Holocaust would not have been possible.

In the past I’ve noted my objections to the Nuremberg Trials – most notably that they had Soviet judges – but this is one thing I believe the Tribunal got right: the crime of not doing the right thing. My only real objection to the Streicher conviction was that it wasn’t carried further. That is, it wasn’t applied more broadly to the German people. You see, Streicher knew what he was doing; he wasn’t some complete moron; he was a school teacher and the son of a school teacher. He knew that you aren’t supposed to spread hate and lies. How do I know for certain he knew? Because it is rock-solid certain that Streicher wouldn’t want hatred and lies spread about him and his own. Whatever Streicher’s real views about Jews, he knew going in – before be put the first lie to paper – that he wasn’t supposed to do that. The German people, as a whole, also knew: their protestations in 1945 that they had no idea about the Holocaust were drivel…the Nuremberg Laws were enacted in 1935 and any fool could see that only very bad things would result from a legal system which denied the humanity of a segment of the population. Once again: we’re certain of this because no German would want to have laws enacted making Germans into a sub-human class.

I bring this up because we’re already getting the stories of “innocent Palestinians” being killed in the Israeli retaliation. My contention is there are no innocent Palestinians. As I’ve noted before, we started seeing those videos out of Palestine some years back where cute, little Palestinian kids are taught to hate Jews and to glory in killing them. Those cute, little Palestinian kids are now the adults in the Hamas death squads. The whole of Palestinian society – especially in Gaza where Hamas dominates – is geared towards teaching hatred of Jews and the glory of killing them. Just as Germans didn’t make the leap immediately to shoving Jews into gas chambers so, too, did the Palestinians not start raping and murdering random Israelis right out the gate. It took time, patience and careful instruction. It took a religious, social and political infrastructure all singing the same song to craft the sort of people who would think it was a good idea to walk up to an old Israeli at a bus stop and shoot him. To rape a girl next to her dead friends at a concert. To parade naked corpses through the streets. And the Palestinians who have created this system and now unleashed it on Israelis knew when they started that it was wrong. How do I know? Because you can be certain that the Palestinians don’t want the Israelis to teach their children from the ground up that God wants them to rape and murder Palestinians. The Palestinians have no excuse; they are participants in what amounts to a very large Hitler Youth camp. They deliberately made people eager to commit evil; just as the Nazis did.

And, now, the Palestinians have to pay. In blood. Lots of it. There is a cancer in the Palestinian body politic and until it is cut out no cure is possible. It isn’t enough to just hit some targets; the entirety of the system which makes death squads has to go. I do not know what Israel has planned – they are clearly gearing up for a massive operation and the troops sent in will have little reason to be gentle. But I hope the Israelis realize the magnitude of their task – all of Hamas has to go. The whole idea of it has to be wiped out – that is, so much violence has to be applied to the people of Gaza that they come to realize – as the Germans did in 1945 – that the lies they believed were a false god. Nazism was exterminated with thousands of tons of bombs and allied boots kicking in German doors. So, too, it will have to be in Gaza.

And in this operation the Israelis are incapable of committing a crime. There is nothing they can do which would be out of bounds. I know lots of people like to think there are hard and fast rules of war but there really is only one rule: if the enemy does it, so can you. Once the enemy uncorks hell, then hell may be applied to the enemy. You must never be the first, but once the other side does it, you’re free to act in whatever manner seems best to you.

To be certain, the Israelis are civilized people so we’re not going to see IDF soldiers raping and murdering Palestinian women. But because Palestinians raped and murdered Israeli women, there is no limit on the application of force. There are no non-combatants. There are no innocents. There are people who must be compelled to stop believing in Hamas and whatever application of violence proves necessary is legitimate.

My prayers are for the soldiers of the IDF – that they may conduct themselves with courage and as they go through their distasteful task I ask God to give them the wisdom to know when it is time to kill and when it is time to heal.

72 thoughts on “There Are no Non-Combatants

  1. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 9, 2023 / 2:42 pm

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 9, 2023 / 3:59 pm

      ROFL; but it is so very pathetic the state of our nation today.

      Those people who figured Biden the better alternative will answer to God one day for it.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 9, 2023 / 5:51 pm

        Anyone so shallow, so superficial, so easily led by emotion and propaganda that he or she voted AGAINST Trump even though that meant voting FOR someone as well known for decades as both stupid and corrupt as Biden, can’t complain about being judged for the outcome.

        And the outcome, in fewer than three full years, is massive disaster in every single metric. But just going by the blood on the hands of those who enabled and then support(ed) the Biden juggernaut of tyranny and abuse of power the toll will be huge. From the deaths directly attributable to the implied invitation to cross large inhospitable countries led by brutal corrupt drug cartels to those tied to the shameful retreat from Afghanistan (not just our 13 military people lost that day at the airport but those who supported us and then became targets, added to those killed by the weapons we left behind) to the number of Ukrainians killed and maimed and left destitute once we enabled Putin to attack them and now the death toll of the Hamas attacks on Israel, the American Left has a shameful death toll.

        (None of this addresses the destruction of our economy, the weaponization of our government to Stalinize it, the loss of our national sovereignty as we destroyed even the concept of a national border, the loss of international respect and prestige, the weakening of our military, the ceding of so much power to China in terms of giving that country control over our medical supplies, electrical transformers, etc and the many ways the Biden administration has gutted this country.)

        Who put Biden in office? We know that 81 million American citizens did not vote for him, but enough did to make the cheating possible. Even if we make excuses for them because of the lies they were told by the Complicit Agenda Media and their misplaced trust in our federal agencies there are still millions who claim they support Biden even now. And every one of them bears responsibility for the various catastrophes that have resulted from their gullibility/stupidity.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 10, 2023 / 10:58 am

        Indeed.

        Over the years I’ve come to discount oppression and propaganda as excuses. They do provide a little “out” for people but its not definitive. Unless you’re dealing with something like an actual Stalinist terror apparatus, you still have agency. Everyone is still human, possessed of Reason and able to Act. No serious person of normal IQ could possibly have thought Trump so bad that Biden was a credible alternative. I put it all down to blind partisanship for the core Democrat voters (but we must never be blind) or an absurd hatred built up in Never Trump…and that hatred started to be built up because Trump won. Remember, they were all so convinced that Trump couldn’t win. When he did, they took it personally and then started looking for ever more silly reasons to oppose him.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 10, 2023 / 12:34 pm

        When I read comments about Trump the people do seem quite convinced that he was/is a “DICTATOR” as one example. Of course none of them has ever been challenged to provide an example, but this is embedded in their consciousness. I know it stays there because it meets some emotional need but nevertheless it is there.

        The same thing is true of the Leftist attitude toward Republicans in general. I just saw a comment from a Leftist “journalist” about Republicans that was so bizarrely over the top it was hard to believe it came from a sentient being, yet he appears to be quite committed to the belief. I’ll see if I can find it. It followed the narrative being pushed for a while about the GOP being “nihilistic”. That alone is proof of the insanity of the narrative. Merriam Webster has definitions of “nihilist” and they all apply to the Left and contradict the entire arc of Right-wing belief and philosophy:

        1 a: a viewpoint that traditional values and beliefs are unfounded and that existence is senseless and useless
        Nihilism is a condition in which all ultimate values lose their value.
        —Ronald H. Nash
        b : a doctrine that denies any objective ground of truth and especially of moral truths
        2 a: a doctrine or belief that conditions in the social organization are so bad as to make destruction desirable for its own sake independent of any constructive program or possibility
        b: capitalized : the program of a 19th century Russian party advocating revolutionary reform and using terrorism and assassination

        In other words, using the word “nihilist” to brand the Right is a classic example of projection. But it permeates Left-wing narratives about the Right and the Republican Party and so occupies a space in the subconscious of many who have never examined the word’s meaning or applicability to the Right.

        I believe very strongly in the power of a general attitude in a society. I don’t know how to phrase it better. I wish I could. One example is my belief that the rise in child abuse, including child porn and sex slavery, is tied to the belief that children have no inherent value as human beings and that any value they have is assigned to them by the adults in their lives–that is, the philosophy that drives abortion. When we have a sizable segment of our society, one which controls the vast majority of all media outlets, sending the message that human life, particularly that of babies and children, is not inherently valuable but depends entirely on how adults choose to define them, while this attitude is ostensibly limited to justifying the destruction of unborn children I believe it permeates our entire society on a subconscious level and as a result children in general are not valued as human beings but merely as adjuncts to whatever adults want to do with them.

        Similarly, I think that when a concept such as the alleged lack of morality of the Republican Party is also the subject of the vast majority of media outlets this becomes part of the reality of people who don’t analyze this belief for credibility but merely incorporate it into their belief system. The country is inundated with comments such as it is a nationalist, race-baiting, Trumpist sect that threatens American democracy and after years of this it becomes accepted as fact, without any effort to challenge any of these statements. A rational person would wonder what is wrong with being a “nationalist” as its meaning is merely (A) a person who strongly identifies with their own nation and vigorously supports its interests or (B) a member of a political party or group advocating national independence or strong national government . There is nothing sinister or nefarious about this, though efforts are made to recast this in negative terms.

        wikipedia explains “nationalism”: As a movement, it tends to promote the interests of a particular nation (as in a group of people), especially with the aim of gaining and maintaining the nation’s sovereignty (self-governance) over its perceived homeland to create a nation-state. It holds that each nation should govern itself, free from outside interference (self-determination), that a nation is a natural and ideal basis for a polity, and that the nation is the only rightful source of political power. It further aims to build and maintain a single national identity, based on a combination of shared social characteristics such as culture, ethnicity, geographic location, language, politics (or the government), religion, traditions and belief in a shared singular history, and to promote national unity or solidarity. Nationalism, therefore, seeks to preserve and foster a nation’s traditional culture.

        But the propaganda drumbeat using the word “nationalist” or “nationalism” implies a negative and even sinister meaning, which sinks into the subconscious of the unanalytical and becomes part of a body of “knowledge” that guides thought and action. Back to that alleged definition of the Republican Party: it is a nationalist, race-baiting, Trumpist sect that threatens American democracy. When examined, this is merely a collection of words that are not related to reality. There is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve and foster a nation’s traditional culture, or strongly identifying with our own nation and vigorously supports its interests. There are literally NO examples of “race baiting” in the true sense of the word, though to the Left everything is racist and therefore any action has a racist origin or intent. The sneer that people who support Trump are merely a “sect” is just typical political hyperbole which counts on people forgetting the cultish dedication to Barack Obama and the swooning headlines on magazines and newspapers proclaiming him as the nation’s new Messiah, “The One We Have All Been Waiting For”. And the party fighting for free and fair elections in which only live and registered citizens are allowed to vote and only vote once is hardly the “threat to democracy”, a strange litany that makes absolutely no sense.

        I agree with you that accepting propaganda like this does not excuse a person from responsibility for the outcome. People DO have agency. But at the same time, when the propaganda is not just a few discrete comments that can be sorted out from the whole and actually defines the entire narrative it is harder to understand that it is false, and manipulative.

  2. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 9, 2023 / 5:37 pm

    YCMTSU:

    A senior Hamas official said Monday that the group is open to discussions with Israel over a possible truce in the three-day-old war as it has “achieved its targets.”

    Tell you what, Pudgy—let’s wait a while till Israel has “achieved ITS targets” and then let’s talk. Hopefully those targets include taking the Palestinian lands down to bedrock and leveling Tehran.

    • Pke42's avatar Pke42 October 10, 2023 / 7:38 am

      My ideal response would parallel this …

      We shall have peace… We shall have peace, when you answer for the burning of the Westfold, and the children that lie dead there! We shall have peace, when the lives of the soldiers whose bodies were hewn even as they died against the gates of the Hornberg, are avenged! When you hang from a gibbit for the sport of your own crows…! We shall have peace.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 10, 2023 / 10:53 am

        Yep

  3. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 9, 2023 / 6:06 pm

    UM Secretary Antonio Guterres scolds Israel, ‘splaining that “While I recognize Israel’s legitimate security concerns, I also remind Israel that military operations must be conducted in strict accordance with international humanitarian law. Civilians must be respected and protected at all times. Civilian infrastructure must never be a target.

    In other words, the current multi-tiered system of “justice” currently destroying the United States is supposed to be applied everywhere else, too. Or, rather, only to those in opposition to the forces representing the Left or supporting it in any way.

    Here’s what should happen, Tony. Israel should take a look at the tactics and philosophy of Hamas and its savages, amplify them by a factor of at least two, and visit the result upon Hamas, Palestine and Iran. And you and your smarmy Leftist appeasers should STFU and stay out of the way. Israel should adopt Hama’s version of “accordance with international humanitarian law” and shove it down the throat of Palestine and Iran and every other nation of savages that wants to join the fight. Civilian infrastructure should be bulldozed flat with the debris piled along the new border between savagery and civilization.

    And then we, in the United States, should elect a president committed to getting the United States out of the United Nations and its increasingly transparent support for tyranny and brutality and Leftist governance. We need to stop propping up this sham, this corrupt enabler of evil, and giving it the credibility of membership—not to mention our financial support. We should give the UN six months to vacate their NYC building and relocate, and in the meantime stop sending them a single dime.

    In the meantime, let’s start a GoFundMe to buy tickets for all those “queers” to go wave their flags in the front lines to support the Palestinians, with a little left over to buy body bags.

  4. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 9, 2023 / 9:22 pm

    From Dr. Robert Malone: emphasis in bold is mine

    A seasoned stock analyst colleague texted me a link today, and when I clicked it open, I could hardly believe what I was reading. What a headline. “Indiana life insurance CEO says deaths are up 40% among people ages 18-64”. This headline is a nuclear truth bomb masquerading as an insurance agent’s dry manila envelope full of actuarial tables.

    It is starting to look to me like the largest experiment on human beings in recorded history has failed. And, if this rather dry report from a senior Indiana life insurance executive holds true, then Reiner Fuellmich’s “Crimes against Humanity” push for convening new Nuremberg trials starts to look a lot less quixotic and a lot more prophetic.

    Here is what lit me up in this report from The Center Square contributor Margaret Menge.

    “The head of Indianapolis-based insurance company OneAmerica said the death rate is up a stunning 40% from pre-pandemic levels among working-age people.

    “We are seeing, right now, the highest death rates we have seen in the history of this business – not just at OneAmerica,” the company’s CEO Scott Davison said during an online news conference this week. “The data is consistent across every player in that business.”
    …………………………………..

    OneAmerica is a $100 billion insurance company that has had its headquarters in Indianapolis since 1877. The company has approximately 2,400 employees and sells life insurance, including group life insurance to employers in the state.

    Davison said the increase in deaths represents “huge, huge numbers,” and that’s it’s not elderly people who are dying, but “primarily working-age people 18 to 64” who are the employees of companies that have group life insurance plans through OneAmerica.

    “And what we saw just in third quarter, we’re seeing it continue into fourth quarter, is that death rates are up 40% over what they were pre-pandemic,” he said.

    “Just to give you an idea of how bad that is, a three-sigma or a one-in-200-year catastrophe would be 10% increase over pre-pandemic,” he said. “So 40% is just unheard of.””

    So, what is driving this unprecedented surge in all-cause mortality?

    “Most of the claims for deaths being filed are not classified as COVID-19 deaths,

    Davison said. “What the data is showing to us is that the deaths that are being reported as COVID deaths greatly understate the actual death losses among working-age people from the pandemic. It may not all be COVID on their death certificate, but deaths are up just huge, huge numbers.””

    Take a moment to read the entire article. Now. Then let’s continue on, assuming that you have.

    AT A MINIMUM, based on my reading, one has to conclude that if this report holds and is confirmed by others in the dry world of life insurance actuaries, we have both a huge human tragedy and a profound public policy failure of the US Government and US HHS system to serve and protect the citizens that pay for this “service”.

    IF this holds true, then the genetic vaccines so aggressively promoted have failed, and the clear federal campaign to prevent early treatment with lifesaving drugs has contributed to a massive, avoidable loss of life.

    AT WORST, this report implies that the federal workplace vaccine mandates have driven what appear to be a true crime against humanity. Massive loss of life in (presumably) workers that have been forced to accept a toxic vaccine at higher frequency relative to the general population of Indiana.

    FURTHERMORE, we have also been living through the most massive, globally coordinated propaganda and censorship campaign in the history of the human race. All major mass media and the social media technology companies have coordinated to stifle and suppress any discussion of the risks of the genetic vaccines AND/OR alternative early treatments.

    IF this report holds true, there must be accountability. We are not just talking about running over the first amendment of the Constitution of the United States and grinding it into the mud with an army of artificial intelligence-powered heavy infantry. This article reads like a dry description of an avoidable mass casualty event caused by a mandated experimental medical procedure. One for which all opportunities for the victims to have become self-informed about the potential risks have been methodically erased from both the internet and public awareness by an international corrupt cabal operating under the flag of the “Trusted News Initiative”. George Orwell must be spinning in his grave.

    I hope I am wrong. I fear I am right.

    Key words among so many: INTERNATIONAL CORRUPT CABAL
    I often refer to the International Left as the guiding force of the American Left, and its influence has come to greater attention as it has coordinated plandemic responses around the world.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 9, 2023 / 10:11 pm

        then the genetic vaccines so aggressively promoted have failed, and the clear federal campaign to prevent early treatment with lifesaving drugs has contributed to a massive, avoidable loss of life.

        AT WORST, this report implies that the federal workplace vaccine mandates have driven what appear to be a true crime against humanity. Massive loss of life in (presumably) workers that have been forced to accept a toxic vaccine at higher frequency relative to the general population of Indiana.

        In addition, very few deaths are attributed to “vaccine deaths”. They are not listed that way. They are listed by actual cause, such as myocarditis. Also, “Most of the claims for deaths being filed are not classified as COVID-19 deaths. That means they are attributed to some other cause of death. When there was no difference between dying OF Covid and dying WITH Covid, or merely possibly being exposed to Covid, the claims of Covid deaths were vastly inflated. These deaths were not included in that number. Try reading the article.

        And pay attention to this: the clear federal campaign to prevent early treatment with lifesaving drugs has contributed to a massive, avoidable loss of life. Doctors were punished for practicing medicine when the bureaucrats in the administration found their failure to accept their edicts intolerable.

        Your silly vapid automatic knee jerk defense of the Left and anything it does is quite tiresome.

  5. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 9, 2023 / 10:58 pm

    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

    John Stuart Mill

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 8:43 am

      The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature

      We are seeing a lot of that in todays America. The apathy and complacency in this country is dangerous. What happened in Israel could easily happen here. There are tens of thousands of military aged men wandering into this country every day, many of whom could be coordinated too start entering border town communities and killing citizens, kidnapping women and inflicting terror. How would most American men react?

      Anything short of complete annihilation of Gaza and Hamas will only result in more death and chaos down the road. Those people must be removed from the earth and their communities leveled. And American conservatives need to take the same approach to the American Left. Much like the barbaric Hamas, the American Left has shown us who they are … they were willing to, and have destroyed many of our beautiful inner cities, burnt small businesses to the ground, sexually mutilated children, imprisoned trespassers, and allowed criminals from other countries to freely enter our country. Democrats pose the same threat to America as Hamas poses to Israel, and the response needs to be the same.

  6. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 9:10 am

    It will never cease to amaze me how Democrat “liberals”, particularly the ones I knew back in the 80’s and 90’s, are all now pro big government, pro big pharma, pro censorship, and pro war. This is a compete 180 from what they use to stand for. Of course, we now know that Democrat have no core morals or principles and will support anything that gives them the perceived moral high ground … I guess it makes them feel better.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 10, 2023 / 9:44 am

      Dems have always been about big government. When they were Leftist Lite they paid lip service to freedom of speech, but their masters in the Left were always about censorship.

      But you are right about the current crop of Dems having no core value system other than hatred of the Invented Other their masters have created for them, and whatever they have been indoctrinated into thinking of the Higher Moral Ground.

      It’s interesting to see how that Higher Moral Ground shifts, as it now seems to advocate for the rape, torture and murder of women and children and the ritual desecration of their bodies in ghoulish public rituals.

  7. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 9:20 am

    This family is creepy beyond creepy and a complete embarrassment to this country. Get them the f**k out of the White House

    A naked selfie of Joe Biden’s brother Frank has been discovered on a gay porn site.

    The photo was uploaded to GuysWithiPhones.com in 2018, when Frank – who has a long-term female partner Mindy Ward – was 64. Even after more than five years, it is still live on the site.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12610551/Joe-Biden-brother-Frank-naked-selfie-GuysWithiPhones.html

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 10, 2023 / 9:51 am

      Jonathan Turley has a great piece at his substack about the Biden Crime Family. You know when a Liberal Democrat writes such things about you that your world is about to implode.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 10:21 am

        “Not empathy, but avarice” … really good article. Anyone who supports that POS man and his creepy family is a reprobate.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 10, 2023 / 10:34 am

        And, at this point, a co-conspirator.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 10, 2023 / 1:11 pm

        When we hear about things attributed to a public figure, we can then evaluate them and determine for ourselves if those accusations influence our decisions and opinions of that person.

        When I hear accusations about Trump, for example, I examine them. Some I find to be false, such as the claim he “bragged about grabbing a woman by the p***y”. Some I find to be irrelevant, such as his history of admittedly immoral sexual behavior and infidelity, because that all appears to be well in his past and I believe in redemption, salvation and forgiveness. When I hear that he IS “corrupt” I find zero evidence to back this up. When I hear that he WAS corrupt, in his prior business dealings, I take that with a large grain of salt as these complaints seem to come from people outraged that he took advantage of legal tax loopholes, for example.

        Overall, I find the vast majority of claims about him to be on the spectrum of out-and-out lies to exaggeration to speculation accompanied by judgment on the ethics involved but not on objective fact. So I don’t feel tainted by supporting him.

        I don’t feel that way about supporters of Joe Biden, because he has a long and documented history of a range of questionable actions I find repellent, from his admiration for a Ku Klux Klan leader to racist remarks to out-and-out lies to his perversions. I have seen videos of him fondling the prepubescent breasts of young girls, and pulling their heads or hands into his crotch. I have seen videos of him sniffing the hair of young girls. I have seen enough proof of his abuse of the power given to him by the people of this country (not to sound melodramatic but I think that is a sacred trust) and of the wealth he has acquired by selling his influence to find him wholly corrupt and immoral on both personal and professional levels.

        So yes, I do think that supporting him is basically approving his actions and therefore instead of holding him accountable actually enabling them. I see it as ratifying his corruption and I can’t excuse it.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 1:34 pm

        Are you offended by that fielding?? LOL. According to you, anyone can be a woman, so women really don’t matter much to you so spare me the concern. You’re such a loser

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 3:30 pm

        So lying now offends you?? hahahahaha since when? You’ve bought into every lie the media has pushed out there, so why stop now?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 5:03 pm

        You two are the biggest losers I’ve ever known. Your entire lives are lies so your concerns are comical. Now run along and go save the planet or democracy or whatever delusion you’re suffering from today

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 10, 2023 / 5:42 pm

        Well, they sure know how to push your buttons. Every time one of them drags a string past you you are compelled to chase after it.

  8. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 10, 2023 / 12:56 pm

    “PERMIT ME TO HINT WHETHER IT WOULD NOT BE WISE & SEASONABLE TO PROVIDE A STRONG CHECK TO THE ADMISSION OF FOREIGNERS INTO THE ADMINISTRATION OF OUR NATIONAL GOVERNMENT, AND TO DECLARE EXPRESSLY THAT THE COMMAND IN CHIEF OF THE AMERICAN ARMY SHALL NOT BE GIVEN TO, NOR DEVOLVED ON, ANY BUT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN,” JOHN JAY TO GEORGE WASHINGTON, 1787.

    Would the display of the national flag of a nation advocating for the death of Americans and destruction of our nation indicate that a member of Congress is a “foreigner”? What if that member of Congress was born to parents who were not citizens of the United States when she was born, but still under the jurisdiction of their native lands? Wouldn’t that mean that the member of Congress is also under that jurisdiction unless she has gone through the naturalization process to become a citizen on her own?

  9. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 10, 2023 / 1:33 pm

    Look at this post on Twitter and just marvel at the thickness of the skull that harbors thoughts like this. Democrats operate from a very low bar of competence …

    I’m so thankful that we have President Biden and VP Harris in office right now. There’s truly no better duo for the job. Their steady leadership is invaluable in times like these. Can’t wait to vote for them again in 2024.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 10, 2023 / 9:16 pm

      There have been some amazing things – like the argument on X as to whether or not 40 Israeli babies were beheaded…you see, if it wasn’t actually 40, that’s ok.

      Just amazed at how evil people are.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 10, 2023 / 11:13 pm

        The thing is, if they could figure out how to pull it off over here, they would in a heartbeat. Who knows – with all the seven million who have come across the southern border illegally, plus another million or so got-a-ways, if only 1/10 of one percent are bent on evil, that’s 8,000 evil doers in our midst.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 11, 2023 / 3:23 am

        I’ve come to the conclusion that we cannot tolerate people who hate the USA living amongst us.

        Not quite sure how we fix this, but in fixing it is our survival…as a people. Our Constitution is not a suicide pact and I will not fight to the death to ensure that evil people can speak.

        Oh, side note: I had thought that gun ownership was fairly widespread in Israel. Turns out, it isn’t – that is how Hamas was able to massacre hundreds. As they say, when seconds count, the police are minutes away. Israel has now loosened up their gun laws…but my goodness: nothing has better demonstrated the need for widespread civil arms than this. Here in at least the Red areas, death squads will meet immediate armed resistance. Doesn’t mean the police and army won’t be needed, but its simply gotta be better if, say, 10% of the community is shooting back than none. It’ll at least slow them down.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 11:54 am

        Israel is “relaxing” its rigid gun control, but only a little, temporarily, and in very restricted ways. People still have to jump through hoops to get guns and they can only get one handgun per household, or at least that was the original plan. I believe it was one handgun and 100 bullets. As most Israelis have served in the military, including women, treating citizens as incompetent to handle more deadly weapons makes no sense. Citizens should be issued whatever long guns Hamas is using, with abundant ammunition.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 6:31 am

        Here in at least the Red areas, death squads will meet immediate armed resistance.

        So, they’ll concentrate on the blue areas. Not ALL bad.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 9:40 am

        I can imagine a TV show where people come to barricaded neighborhoods asking to be let in, to hide from the death squads, and are asked if they voted Democrat or for gun control—and a yes to either question sends them back home to deal with the consequences of their stupidity.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 10:14 am

        Hat tip, Jeff Childers:

        According to internal Customs and Border Protection (CBP) data leaked to Fox News and confirmed by other CBP sources, the data shows that over the last two years, tens of thousands of “special interest aliens” from mostly Middle Eastern countries were captured by Border Patrol while illegally invading the U.S.’s southern border. The captured aliens included “special interest” types from places like Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Turkey, and more.

        The data did not say how many of captured migrants were removed versus how many were just released back into the U.S. with a court date. It also did not estimate or count the numbers who have snuck past agents without detection. CBP sources told Fox there have been more than 1.5 million “getaways” during the Biden administration.

        So, contrary to the nonsense the Biden Administration is peddling, it’s not just hardworking Mexican families trying to reunite with loved ones in the U.S. and who just want to become good citizens and taxpayers. For whatever reason, the federal government has allowed our border to essentially collapse and now every bad actor with an axe to grind is sailing in.

        It’s time to focus on the United States’s border problem, instead of other countries’ border problems, and the invasion of America, instead of the invasion of other countries.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 11:42 am

        This is terrifying. We started monitoring German infiltrations into our country back in the late 1930s because back then we had some intelligent people in the government. (That ended in the 50s when we allowed Communists in the highest levels of government, a potentially lethal mistake we have continued to make—where is Joe McCarthy when we need him?) but we were at least aware of a looming danger.

        We’ve got the ability to deal with this but we don’t have the will.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 12:00 pm

        Yeah, if they only killed 39 babies in their cribs and only cut off 30 heads, what’s the big deal?

        What we’re missing is why they killed the babies. Yes, it was because they are so totally lacking in anything that defines a real man that they are OK butchering tiny helpless human beings, but in addition to that, they did it to prevent these babies from growing up to be enemies. They understand that it is necessary to vanquish the enemy at its most basic level, to pull out the roots and kill the seeds.

        We don’t understand that. I would never advocate for the killing of babies or young children, but I would advocate for taking them out of the cess pool of hate and vitriol that will condemn them to this kind of craven cowardice mixed with blind hate to give them a chance to grow up as decent human beings.

  10. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 9:05 am

    I’ve come to the conclusion that we cannot tolerate people who hate the USA living amongst us.

    I said earlier, we need to attack the American Left like Israel is attacking Hamas. Same ferocity. And I don’t think Israel is asking the question .. “then what”, and neither should we. Let the chips fall where they may. The Palestinian rallies in NY are beyond the pale and those should be the first people permanently removed

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 10:14 am

      Oh, get over your silly pretense that sane people launch themselves over a cliff without even wondering where they will land. OF COURSE Israel has considered “then what”. That’s what smart people do. If you are all hot to trot with your gun you had better consider “then what” every time you think of pulling that trigger. Is your field of fire clear, or could you hit an innocent person? What if your bullet goes through a wall and kills someone in the next room? “Then what?” is the mantra of every responsible person whenever facing an action with potential dangers. Or at least it should be.

      I was lucky. I grew up in an atmosphere of “then what?” When I was learning to drive, I was taught to maintain situational awareness, always watch my mirrors, always pay attention to what is around me, and to think “then what?” as I drive. What if that truck crosses the median and comes toward me? “Then what?” is a philosophy that is likely to prepare me for something like that, if I have been paying attention and know that on one side of the road is a cliff and on the other side is a field, so when faced with “then what?” I am more prepared.

      So don’t try to claim that people who control lethal armies never consider and prepare for various eventualities.

      There are some things we can do. Naturalized citizens can have their citizenship revoked and be sent home. (Should have done this to Soros years ago. He’d still be supporting political campaigns, but at least it would be illegal.) We could revisit the distortions of the 14th Amendment and declare that anyone whose parents were under the jurisdiction of another nation when they were born, even if they were born here, means they are also under the jurisdiction of that nation and pack them off. Kick them out of universities, kick them off all welfare programs, get them fired if they have jobs. Make them pariahs, able to only associate with their own kind, but without the slightest bit of support from the government. Plaster neighborhoods with posters with photos of these creatures, with captions like LAUGHS WHEN BABIES ARE BEHEADED or NOT ENOUGH OF A MAN TO FIGHT REAL MEN BUT SURE CAN KILL BABIES

      The Left has given us a gift—the precedent of claiming that an objection to an act of Congress is, in fact, an effort to overthrow the government. So we should use it, and arrest every single person whose actions fall into that arena. Any hint of a desire to overthrow our government now calls for no trial for more than a year and solitary confinement in the meantime.

      There is nothing we can to about depravity, other than possibly showcasing it. Maybe have a nightly TV show on every network station showing photos, big clear full-face photos, of people with the caption “THIS PERSON CELEBRATES THE BUTCHERING OF CHILDREN” or some such comment. And can we PULEEEZE stop fretting that it would be an awful thing to ridicule them for their cowardice and lack of manhood? How about huge billboards with photos of white and Hispanic men with the caption REAL MEN PROTECT WOMEN AND CHILDREN and then photos of masked anarchists and terrorists with the caption REAL MEN DON’T RAPE, TORTURE OR KILL THEM OR CELEBRATE THOSE WHO DO. Nothing is more important in the Arab world than posturing as big strong men, but we are too delicate to use that, so we don’t go for that sensitivity. “Oooh, what if we hurt their feelings?” We should be making fun of every single “man” who has to hide behind a mask, run in packs like a jackal, and abuse those who can’t defend themselves. It should be a theme. It should dominate every medium—that any male who has to attack the weak, and every male who thinks this is great, basically has nothing in his pants and is admitting this to the world. Plaster neighborhoods with posters with photos of these creatures, with captions like LAUGHS WHEN BABIES ARE BEHEADED or NOT ENOUGH OF A MAN TO FIGHT REAL MEN BUT SURE CAN KILL BABIES

      Kick them out of universities, kick them off all welfare programs, get them fired if they have jobs.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 10:27 am

        Look at those photos. Do all these people look like citizens? Start with the illegals. Then cancel visas, including student visas. Then undo naturalizations. Make it a policy that if a nation does not officially, loudly, consistently denounce the barbarity we saw from Hamas then no one from that country can come here.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 10:38 am

        LOL, I’m just saying that I don’t think that question even entered Netanyahu’s thinking. A “then what” concern can be paralyzing because of the uncertainty. No one can ever predict “then what” and because of that it can cause hesitation and when faced with evil, that equals death.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 11:11 am

        Yeah, well, people DO predict “then what” all the time. They predict a range of likely reactions to an action and consider how best to deal with each one. “Hesitation” occurs when there is no advance consideration of a reaction. Instead of just going to a preplanned action, there has to be a spontaneous calculation and decision at that moment. You seem to be saying that first an action should be taken without consideration of its consequences and preparation for whichever reaction occurs, then because there was no preparation in advance an equally spontaneous reaction to the reaction should occur, also without concern for where that might lead, and so on.

        You like football Can you imagine a quarterback just throwing the ball downfield without considering “then what”? Hardly. No, this player has considered every eventuality, and so has his team. First, he usually throws to a spot on the field, not to a player, knowing that the right player (if he does his job right) will be there to catch it. That’s because that is a “then what” calculation made well in advance. But there is another “then what?” in play—what if the other player can’t get to the designated spot on the field in time to catch the pass? Then there is a new decision, either to go to a predetermined Plan B if there is a player able to get to that position in time or to throw to a player who is now in the open, in spite of this possibility never being part of the anticipated play. . But even then there is a “then what?” based on calculations of the speed and talent of the guy who is in the open and the speed and talent of the opposing players around him and on their awareness of the situation—and of the consequences of an interception, based on distance to the goal line. Remember John Elway’s famous scrambles with the ball when the defense didn’t give him anyone to pass to? Even the decision to try to run with the ball was a “then what?” calculation, made in advance, an action to be taken under certain circumstances based on certain conditions.

        Your quarterback would just go out there and throw the ball, without the slightest concern of “then what?” Is the receiver in position to catch it? He’ll just deal with that if it happens. Whatev. Mine (let’s call him Payton Manning) has considered a variety of “then what?” possibilities, so he doesn’t have to “hesitate” when faced with one of them, because he already has a plan for “then what?”

        No one can accurately predict an outcome or response to an action. but a competent person can, and does, anticipate the most likely reactions and consider how each would be dealt with if it is the one that pops up. You may actually have heard of this concept. It is called “Plan A, Plan B, etc” or “contingencies” etc. You sell houses. If someone wants to put in an offer on a house you will probably ask how he plans to finance it. That is, “then what?” If the response is “I’m just going to wait to see if my offer is accepted and then figure it out” you’re probably not going to have much confidence in this buyer.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 11:07 am

        I kinda gotta agree with Cluster here. I think I’m the one who originally posed the question, “and then what?”, and it often is, or should be, part of the equation. But if Israeli intelligence didn’t see this attack coming (which apparently they didn’t), it kind of hard to believe that anyone said, “and then what?”

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 11:22 am

        So….Israel never considered the possibility that it would be attacked in this or a similar way? In spite of nearly daily smaller attacks and a history of really big ones it never considered how it would respond to another big one? It never did war gaming, like we do, where the generals devise responses to various situations? They never said “We’ll build a lot of wheels and keep them in the shed and when something happens we’ll pull out the one that looks like the best one for that situation” but instead figured they’d just hang out and then build a whole new wheel to order if they need one?

        What has been the Israeli response to this attack? Does it seem like something they are throwing together on the fly, making it up as they go along? It kind of looks like it had a plan to mobilize IDF troops and reservists, for example. Israel “has never mobilized so many reservists so quickly,” with 300,000 reservists called up within 48 hours. The sheer speed of the mobilization would be impossible for most nations, experts said.

        Gee, it’s almost as if they had a plan……. It’s almost as if someone thought “When we get hit with another sneak attack, then what?”

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 11:38 am

        “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face” – Mike Tyson

        Everyone has contingencies but no one has a crystal ball. And I have zero faith in any of our “experts” figuring out “what then” considering their recent track record with Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, etc., etc.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 12:03 pm

        Yeah, there’s always the “spray and pray” mentality. Just start shooting—statistically you’re probably going to hit someone you want to hit, eventually.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 12:44 pm

        I’m not saying Israel didn’t have a plan. I”m just saying, when the sh*t hit the fan, I’ll bet not too many in Israel are/were thinking, “if we hit back disproportionately, what then?”

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 2:08 pm

        No, I don’t think that would have been a calculation. But I think that when the sh*t did hit the fan, the military (and Mossad) just had to flip through a few preplanned scenarios to see which they wanted to start with, and had backup plans for those. I’m guessing maybe:

        Plan: Massive counterattack. Response: Beg for a truce Backup plan: Kill them all anyway
        Plan: Massive counterattack. World Response: Demand a truce Backup plan: Kill them all anyway
        Plan: Massive counterattack. World Response: Call them mean Backup plan: Kill them all anyway
        Plan: Massive counterattack. Biden Response: A strongly worded letter Backup plan: Kill them all anyway

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 2:39 pm

        You mean kind of like the plan America had went it went into Vietnam, or Afghanistan, or Iraq etc. Yea they all had “what then” plans and they all failed spectacularly. And when a football huddles, they’re planning on “what next”, not what then

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 6:49 pm

        You do realize, don’t you, that you just shot your own silly argument down? The failures you mention were failures to plan, to know the facts necessary to be ABLE to plan, the inability to decide “then what” because they didn’t take the time to learn what they needed to learn. You assert that these failed leaders all had “what then” plans but you just made that up because you are the kind of guy who will do the argument version of chewing off your own arm to avoid admitting you are wrong.

        What next / what then. A distinction without a difference.

        But like I said, there is a place for people like you. They call it cannon fodder. Someone has to clear the minefields.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 7:41 pm

        I’m pretty sure 25-year-old Inbar Lieberman had given some thought to “then what?” so she was ready.

        She realized that the sounds were different than those heard during the usual rocket attacks on the kibbutz — located near Sderot and a stone’s throw from the Gaza Strip.

        So Lieberman rushed to open the armory, distributed guns to the 12-member security team, and coordinated their decisive response amid the unfolding attack.

        She placed her squad of kibbutzniks in strategic positions across the settlement and set up ambushes that caught the gunmen off guard and turned the tables on them during their mission to inflict mass casualties.

        Lieberman killed five terrorists by herself, while the others gunned down 20 more over four hours as they turned Nir Am into an impenetrable fortress — while nearby kibbutzim suffered heavy losses, Walla News reported.

  11. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 9:13 am

    Something needs to be done with Harvard. I think they should stripped of Ivy League and relegated to a Vo Tech Junior College

    Harvard university faced a massive backlash after 31 of its student societies issued a joint statement ‘holding the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence’. The Anti-Defamation League denounced the statement as ‘anti-Semitic’ and others accused the university of tolerating hate speech.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 10:16 am

      Harvard gets federal money. Pull that funding as long as it tolerates student societies like that. If this is how Harvard wants to roll, let it dip into its billions of endowments and fund them itself.

      And didn’t the hysterical Left demand laws against “hate speech”? Don’t laws have penalties for violations? Prosecute.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 9:55 am

      It’s going to become clear very soon that this current conflict is the beginning of something much, much bigger.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 11:10 am

        In response to “who would I shoot?”, Michael Hayden would be in my top 10.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 11:25 am

        And your reason would be?? And no, “because he’s an asshole” is not enough. Would you stalk him and gun him down in the street? Knock on his door and shoot him when he answered? Set up a really cool high-tech sniper nest outside his office?

        And what would shooting him accomplish? Is he the brains behind some nefarious policy that would fall apart if he were taken out? Or would it just be for grins?

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 11:39 am

        Paralysis by analysis

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 12:06 pm

        I’ll bet you’re a hoot at sports bars, when the team calls a time out and there is a huddle to discuss “then what?” and you start yelling “paralysis by analysis”.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 12:50 pm

        And your reason would be?? And no, “because he’s an asshole” is not enough.

        My comment was kind of tongue-in-cheek, but if I need a reason it would be that, (a) given the chance, he wouldn’t think twice about having someone like me eliminated, (b) he’s an extremely dangerous and influential individual, and (c) he IS an asshole.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 2:11 pm

        While I can never discount the satisfaction of getting rid of someone who will make the world a better place by leaving it, when it comes to direct action I still think it calls for strategy that shows a bigger and better outcome than “well, that needed doing”.

  12. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 11, 2023 / 10:28 am

    Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter’s business interests. RIGHT!

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 10:34 am

      The questions is, will Joe be the nominee? I don’t know how they replace him, short of his own death, but considering all the damning evidence, I don;t know how he possibly survives.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 11:14 am

        He can have a health issue as an excuse.

        I don’t think Joe is nearly as big a problem as Kamala. There are no possible substitutions for Joe that create as many problems for the Dems as replacing Kamala. If she can’t be “persuaded” to officially declare that she has voluntarily chosen to step aside, she is their tiger by the tail—-it’s as dangerous to let go as it is to hang on.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 10:42 am

      Remember, “U.S. officials say they haven’t seen evidence of Tehran’s involvement” in the Hamas attacks, either.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 11:05 am

        There are none so blind as those who will not see

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 11:34 am

        I think the last part of that comment is “and none so corrupt as those who deny the truth”

  13. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 11, 2023 / 2:45 pm

    It’s not satisfaction when you eliminate an enemy, it’s only disappointing that it came to that. No one wants war, certainly not me, but I am also more than prepared to die fighting the enemy. I owe that to my family and forefathers. And your perception of people like me and our desire to take care of business is just way off the mark.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 11, 2023 / 6:45 pm

      I’m all about “taking care of business” but to put it bluntly I want it done by people who know what they are doing and how to do it, not some keyboard warrior who just bought their first gun and have never shot anything much less a human being and never been personally attacked and never had to go into any kind of battle anywhere, who get all pumped up with delusions of first tier heroism but who literally have no clue about what it would take to be effective.

      Failing to prepare is preparing to fail. The problem is, it tends to take other people along with it.

      Go run a few thousand rounds through that urban defense weapon you bought. and learn how to break it down and clean it. Take a class in basic self defense so you don’t pee down your leg if some bad guy hits you. Talk to people who have been in the field, who have fought the fight. And I will guarantee you that none of these guys—NONE—would want to be within a hundred yards of you if you decide to go all Rambo and show them that thinking about “then what” is sissy talk for being reactive.

      Read about the SEAL team that took out Bin Laden and the preparation for that raid. Those guys “then whatted” to the Nth degree after a lot of “what thenning” so when things went wrong they were ready. But then that’s because they are Real World guys who know that spitballing on scene is suicide. I’d love to see Middle Aged Urban Realtor explaining how he’s really the one who wants to “take care of business”. I’ll buy the beer.

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