I’m afraid I got a little triggered this Glorious Fourth – and not by a Lefty saying something stupid about America. Nope, Matthew Van Dyke, the founder of Sons of Liberty International set me off. With this:
The story of humanity would be dismal if America hadn’t set the example of rebellion against tyranny nearly 250 years ago.
Let’s keep up the fight against #Russia, #Iran, #NorthKorea, and any other authoritarian regimes that still haven’t gotten the message.
Happy 4th of July.
So, you’re asking yourself (go ahead; ask yourself!), just what in that would trigger Mark?
The fact that it simply isn’t true.
Don’t get me wrong – America is the land that I love. The Founders were glorious. Or Declaration, sublime. The amount of liberty it ushered in was unique in history. But to say that our rebellion against tyranny set some sort of example is…just not supported by the facts. The very next rebellion against tyranny was in France and within 3 years of the start they were executing people for what we today would call “wrongthink”. For heavens sake, the French Revolutionaries judicially murdered Louis XVI’s attorney simply because he had been Louis XVI’s attorney. And when we take one fight after another ostensibly for liberty from 1776 to today all we really see is a litany of crimes.
What the American Revolution showed is that brave and wise people can be very free – but the follow-up both at home and abroad shows that brave and wise people are rare in the course of human events. 248 years on and we’ve got people who think voting is freedom and that welfare isn’t slavery. Who think there’s such a thing as a “hate crime” and that “hate speech” exists. The descendants of those who fought at Lexington and Concord have not been unanimous in favor of freedom.
So, what am I saying? Toss it all in the ash heap of history? Nope. Not that. But it is time for us, as Americans, to start to have some serious thought and discussion about the ways and means that liberty is to be preserved. We are in a very precarious position right now where a significant portion of our fellow citizens are more than eager to see us enslaved to get their policy proposals enacted. They have power based not upon knowledge and superior argument, but because they promise the stupid to take care of them – and “the stupid” run from a cheeto-munching welfare bum to a tenured professor at a public university.
As per our sublime Declaration, governments are instituted among people to secure their rights, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. This is dogma. This is America. This is what we must subscribe to if we want to remain American. It is important to note that Jefferson put “secure their rights” in front of “consent of the governed”. Rights are more important than anything, for the free person. If I don’t have my rights, then I’ve got nothing…and that’s no matter how much I get to vote. Like this: if my rights aren’t secured first, then there is no way to obtain my consent to be governed. If I can’t live, if I can’t do as I wish, if I can’t pursue what I believe is my happiness…then I have no rights and thus cannot provide my consent to be governed.
What we have lost sight of in America – and I think all around the world – is this fact: rights, then consent. We’re all about “get that consent and then you can freely violate rights”. No person can vote away their rights – that they might do so out of ignorance, greed or fear doesn’t change the fact that what God gave the human person cannot be justly taken away, even with consent (however obtained). What I believe will have to be done to secure our rights is to make certain going forward that people have less and less opportunity to be prey to ignorance, greed and fear. That if we really want to sustain and fulfill the promise of 1776, we’re going to need to radically understand it was, at best, a third who signed on to it…and they vigorously fought not just the foreign tyrant, but the fellow citizen who did not want to be free. To remain free in 2024 and later, we are going to have to once again battle fellow citizens who yearn to be slaves. To take away the ability of the ignorant, greedy and cowardly to enslave us.
So, Happy Fourth of July! God bless America!
But get ready for the battle – it never really ended.
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I am curious Mark as to what “rights” you feel you are losing or have lost. How do you think that we are being enslaved?
That you ask this question – which I’m sure you thought sounded super-clever – shows that you don’t understand what rights are. Don’t understand what freedom is. You’re so conditioned by the Establishment that you can’t even form thoughts about the words. To you, they probably mean something like voting and “free” healthcare. You’re enthralled and you don’t even know it.
What we proclaimed in 1776 is that the default position for a citizen is to be able to do whatever desired without let or hindrance from anyone. You don’t need a permit. You don’t have to pay the government to keep what is yours. With only fear of a libel suit to restrain you, free to say any damned thing you want and not have to worry about social or economic ostracism.
Try to understand this – if I can hold my property without checking with anyone or having to provide something to others, if I can say whatever I want, believe whatever I want, go where I please and associate with whom I like I am free even if I can’t vote. Even if I get no aid from the government. You are not free because you vote. You are not free because you aren’t in jail. You are free when you own yourself. That is what Democracy is, Casper – it is self-rule. You being the sole arbiter of your own life. Only when you have that level of security in your rights can consent be obtained from you…if you lack that, then any consent you provide is tainted and not fully valid.
Of course I understand what rights are. My question is what rights do you feel you. are losing or have lost? Please be specific.
As for freedom. I’m probably freer than 99% of mankind throughout history. If I want, I could get up tomorrow and fly to just about anywhere in the world. I can do or say just about anything I want to do and associate with anyone I want.
If anyone is inclined to wonder just how superficial casper, and his “political” understanding is, just wait a while and he’ll illustrate it for us. Just as his analysis of the economy is based on how crowded his hotel or restaurant feels, his concept of freedom is pretty much based on being able to “fly to just about anywhere in the world. I can do or say just about anything I want to do and associate with anyone I want.”
Does a Catholic doctor have the freedom to refuse to take a human life? Does a school or business have the right to make hiring or admittance decisions based on merit and not on any social justice scale? Did people have the right to refuse to inject an experimental drug to be able to keep their jobs or military positions or travel freely? Does a Jew have the right to walk through a Muslim neighborhood, or even past a pro-Hamas riot, without fearing for his life? Do I have the right to address a burly person with a beard as “sir” even though he is wearing a dress? Do parents have the right to refuse to let their daughters change clothes in a locker room where men are allowed? Do parents have the right to demand that their young children not be sexualized, or exposed to pornography in their elementary school libraries? Did people lose the right to petition the government for redress of wrongs on January 6 because they were also supporters of Trump? Did people arrested for that riot lose their rights to humane treatment and speedy trials?
What about the right to vote and feel confident that my vote will not be canceled due to fraud? Do I have the right to fire someone who is slovenly and consistently tardy and rude, if he is also homosexual or acting as if he believes he is really a woman?
Complete bullshit. Associate with anyone I like without threat of violence and having my life destroyed?
Two opposites here. If I associate with Jewesh people I risk getting clobbered by your keffiyeh wearing antifa crowd. If I associate with ku klux klansmen, I get my life destroyed.
But Mark, note that casper very coyly used the term “enslaved” because it then allows him room to bicker, play semantics games and generally be annoying.
Since I have done the 1st Amendment lets go on to the 2nd. Included in the 2nd Amendment are no exceptions to the “shall not be infringed” Yet several states and localities have decided on their own to do exactly that.
Infringe on your right to keep and bear arms.
For now, the 3rd Amendment stands strong. While you look that one up, I’ll move along with the 4th Amendment. Illegal searches and seizures. For that, I will refer you to youtube where it is littered with videos of police state operators violating this right.
(137) 4th amendment violations by police – YouTube
casper quotes: “slavery, condition in which one human being was owned by another. A slave was considered by law as property, or chattel, and was deprived of most of the rights ordinarily held by free persons.”
He just described the pro-abortion stance on unborn human beings and the conviction that they are owned as property or chattel, and denied ALL of the rights ordinarily held by free persons.
You are genuine obtuse aren’t you? Call a homosexual a faggot and see how the lovers of “democracy” scream and begin to dismantle your life.
I’m not siding with Casper here, but I would like to point out that how much freedom a person has lost in recent years depends on a lot of factors, how old you are (working or retired – the older you are the more you realize how much freedom has been lost), where you live, (there’s no question that some states are more free than others), how you live, how you voice your opinion publicly, how much of an activist you are for certain causes. Just the number of people who lost their jobs or were kicked out of the military for not taking the Covid vaccine numbers in the thousands, maybe tens of thousands. In a population of 350 million, not a big deal, right? It’s a big deal if you’re one of those people. Although the January 6th travesty is being rectified, hundreds of people got thrown in prison, some in solitary confinement in inhuman conditions, for what amounted to trespassing (or parading). And given that the Capitol is the building where “the People’s” government does business, I would argue that you can’t trespass in your own building. In the last 5 or 6 years the property tax on my house has doubled – a house that I OWN free and clear, much of it because of inflation since Biden took office. If you really sat down and thought about it, you could probably write a book about the freedoms that have been lost in the last decade or two.
Spook,
I’m sorry your property taxes have gone up. Mine have pretty much stayed the same. Maybe it’s because you live in a Red state.
As for the Covid vaccines, I’m pretty sure you were required to take a number of vaccinations when you joined the military. Requiring another isn’t something new. There are in fact a number of jobs that have required vaccinations over the years.
Actually, it’s not a Red State/Blue State dynamic; it’s a property value dynamic, something over which the property owner has virtually no control. It’s what makes the property tax such an insidious tax; it’s not based on the ability to pay. Hawaii is kind of unique among the 57 states when it comes to property taxes.
As far as the vaccines I was mandated to take while in the military, none of them were experimental. They all had a decades-long track record of both safety and efficacy. Nice try, though.
Casper, just because you think all black people are the same, doesn’t mean vaccines are all the same. They are not.
Tim makes some excellent points, and the self autonomy argument Mark laid out, went right over Casper’s head. I laughed when he said “but I can go anywhere I want to” … should we remind Casper that just a few years ago, he could only “go where he wanted to” if he took the government mandated vaccine. I’ll also mention to Casper that to “go anywhere you want” also means paying the government taxes on every bit of travel, dining, and lodging, so there is that too.
Has everyone seen this Project 2025 push now from Democrats? This is just another manufactured outrage along the lines of Jan 6, Climate Change, white supremacy, 91 felony indictment, etc., etc. The amount of garbage Democrats are willing to drop on this country is mind numbing. They never stop with their manufactured outrages. It’s exhausting. Presumably this Project 2025 is some Heritage document outlining the goal to remake America as some handmaid tales, white supremacist country, and we will hear a lot more about it in the next few months.
Here’s what worries me … we still have 6 months to go with a compromised and corrupt President, and all of our adversaries are going to take advantage of that. The Mexican Cartels will be charging more money and ushering in millions more, China will most likely surround Taiwan if not go in, Hezbollah will continue to distract Israel in the North from finishing their work in the South against Hamas, and Iran will be sending both of them the money they need to continue, and Biden just might send troops to Ukraine to pick a war with Russia. Democrats are desperate now … they just might do anything.
“I’ll also mention to Casper that to “go anywhere you want” also means paying the government taxes on every bit of travel, dining, and lodging, so there is that too.”
Which is different from the past how?
I’ll try to explain this again.
Here in Las Vegas, we rarely get rain but when we do, the weeds rapidly grow – and as most of us, these days, have gravel for our front yards, it is a bit of a chore to keep the weeds under control.
Down the street from me, right now (99% chance, as he’s usually there), is a bum. He panhandles day by day. I don’t think he should be allowed to vote. Why? Because he’s a bum; he doesn’t work. He doesn’t contribute. He’s a dependent – by definition someone who has refused his duty as a citizen. He, because he’s a drug addicted wastrel, has surrendered his rights. I want to secure him his rights. If I had my way, his rights would be secured. The very minute he decided to stop being a drug addicted bum, he could start wandering my neighborhood, observe the people who have not kept ahead of the weeds (about 10% of the houses), knock on their doors and offer to pull them for $20. At that instant, he’d cease being a dependent…he’d be a man. A full citizen. A useful part of our society. He’d be my comrade in arms in the battle of life.
Now, what would you do? “You” meaning, of course, the Liberal State you’ve erected and which you think you’re free in. You’d arrest that man – tell him he can’t pull weeds without a permit and a business license. So, he’d go back to panhandling.
That is the slavery you on the Left have created.
Another example: there were poor people in Maryland recently who either couldn’t afford or simply forgot to pay small property tax imposts on their homes. These were mostly elderly people; and mostly female and POC. In other words, precisely the people you say your Leftist society is here to protect. Because these poor people didn’t pay what were very small amounts, their houses were seized for non-payment of taxes…and then sold off to connected people who then resold them at a massive profit. Just who in hell ever told you Leftists that you have a right to own our property if we don’t pay you off? These people owned their homes. They were responsible. They did the right thing. They played by the rules but because you say your damned taxes are more important than anything else, you (meaning, once again, the total Left) took their homes. What the hell is the matter with you?
And how were those homeowners free? What were they but slaves, kicked out of their homes because Master found someone else to put into it? I will secure their rights – I will enact a law which says that no agency of government may take a primary residence from a citizen for non payment of taxes. Ever. Under no circumstances. Leave people the F alone; it is their house, not the government’s.
This is what I’m talking about Casper – and as I said, you can’t even formulate the concept. You don’t know what it is to be free.
Mark,
So let’s look at your examples. It’s highly doubtful a person who panhandles would be arrested for pulling weeds without a business license. Over the years I’ve hired people to pull weeds, shovel snow, or a number of other small jobs without asking for a business license. For that matter, he could probably find a job with a landscaping company if he were willing to work. I’ve done a lot of traveling in the last ten years and homelessness is a problem throughout the U.S and it’s been going on for years. There is no easy solution the problem. The panhandler you mention might be a slave to drugs (a not uncommon problem) but he isn’t a slave of the state.
Now let’s look at the Maryland people losing their houses. Sounds to me like a scam and one that has happened in other states as well. Perhaps the solution might be better laws and programs aimed at helping people keep their houses. I would agree with the law you proposed and in fact I would go one step further. Set up a program for low income people who have paid off their houses to be exempt from property taxes.
That said, mark, you still haven’t answered my question. What “rights” do you feel you are losing or have lost? By you, I mean you personally. It’s great that you have a concern for your fellow citizens, but what “rights” has Mark lost?
BTW, you love to throw this word around a lot, but you don’t really seem to understand the meaning.
slavery, condition in which one human being was owned by another. A slave was considered by law as property, or chattel, and was deprived of most of the rights ordinarily held by free persons.
There you go: because nobody has a bill of sale for you, you think you’re free.
You just can’t get the concept of liberty into your head. You want a program to help poor people pay their taxes…I laughed out loud. You want to take taxes from me to pay someone else’s taxes!
No. Dammit: the government doesn’t get to decide if I own my property. I buy it and its mine – the government doesn’t even need to know I own it. Just like it doesn’t need to know if I own a car, or a weapon or any other legal item.
Try to understand. Try to think: you aren’t free if you have to pay someone for the privilege.
Mark, there’s a T-Shirt that is appropos.
“There you go: because nobody has a bill of sale for you, you think you’re free.”
I am free.
“You just can’t get the concept of liberty into your head. You want a program to help poor people pay their taxes…I laughed out loud. You want to take taxes from me to pay someone else’s taxes!”
You complain about poor people getting kicked out of their houses for not paying their taxes then complain about helping them stay in their homes. I would have no problem paying a little more in taxes to keep people in their homes. it is the Christian thing to do.
“No. Dammit: the government doesn’t get to decide if I own my property. I buy it and it’s mine – the government doesn’t even need to know I own it.”
Actually. they do. Otherwise what’s to keep someone else from claiming your property?
Just like it doesn’t need to know if I own a car, or a weapon or any other legal item.”
If the legal item has the potential to kill or injure your fellow citizens, then yes the government should have some laws in place to regulate it. Not sure my neighbors would b too happy if I built a home made nuclear reactor that was leaking radiation.
“Try to understand. Try to think: you aren’t free if you have to pay someone for the privilege.”
I do understand. I understand that you can’t come up with any freedoms that you have personally lost.
If you can take someone’s property because they didn’t pay the government, then they are not free. Period. End of story. It means you don’t actually own the property – you’re just renting it from the government. I don’t want a program to help poor people pay their property taxes – I want them to own their property and never have to worry about someone taking it.
As for someone barging in and saying, “this is my house”…well, that’s already happening. In the deepest Blue areas of the country – that is the parts you say should be close to perfection because your Party totally dominates – we’re already seeing people just barging into property and taking over…with the property owners now having to go to Court to try to evict the squatters. In the America of freedom, the property owner would just shoot the trespassers (so the old signs “trespassers will be shot”). For us people who yearn to be free we have the answer for anyone who might get the idea of just taking over – we have guns. So we can shoot them. And a jury which will go, “huh, dummy shouldn’t have gone uninvited onto property he doesn’t own”.
What freedoms have we lost? All of them – because even a partially atrophied freedom is a completely gone freedom. I can’t go anywhere I want – you say “I can”. No, I can’t. You can’t, either. You know the places you’re not allowed to go – right in your own city, or if you’re living rural, in the closest major city. You know the things you’re not allowed to say.
You should really consider the T-shirt, Mark.
ROFL. Definitely
“If you can take someone’s property because they didn’t pay the government, then they are not free. Period.”
So basically, no property tax which means no police, fire department or schools. Also no road maintance on local roads. Good luck on that. As for keeping your land good luck on that too. During the Alaska Gold Rush there were companies that came into areas, took over claims and homesteads and basically either killed the owners or just threw them off their land. No local police or judges so there wasn’t a lot miners could do. Of course before cities started accessing property taxes a lot of citied=s and towns burned down. No building or fire codes.
“What freedoms have we lost? All of them – because even a partially atrophied freedom is a completely gone freedom. I can’t go anywhere I want – you say “I can”. No, I can’t. You can’t, either. You know the places you’re not allowed to go – right in your own city, or if you’re living rural, in the closest major city. You know the things you’re not allowed to say.”
So what areas do ou want to go ewhere you aren’t allowed to go and why do you want to go there. I have access to every beach on the island. I also can go to any of the parks. I can shop in every store and there are hundreds of miles of hiking trails I can hike. I can fly to almost any country in the world that I would want to go too. What I can’t do is set up a tent in your backyard, walk onto an aircraft carrier without clearance, or hang out at a toxic waste dump. There are also areas that where I would to be welcomed here and in other Staes, but I don’t ready have a desire to go to those places in the first. Of course, this is way it’s been for decades. Liberal policies haven’t changed that.
“You know the things you’re not allowed to say.”
Again, there have always been things we aren’t allowed to say, at least without consequences. Most of those things are things I wouldn’t want to say in the first place. Going to go up to someone and insulting them just for the heck of it is bad manners. You haven’t really lost any rights over the last four years. You are just looking to reasons to complain.
You can tax whatever you want – but if we are to remain free, you can’t take what is mine. Not my property. Not your property. Not anyone’s property. Certainly not their primary residence or their farm or their ranch or small business.
You just don’t get it: you aren’t free if to keep what is yours you must give the government a cut. I’m not talking about income taxes. Not talking about capital gains. I’m talking something that a human being owns because they put their own sweat equity into obtaining it. Who the hell are you or anyone to take that from me? It is my house. It is my car. You didn’t pay for it. You don’t maintain it. You don’t live in it or drive in it. It is mine, not yours. I earned it. I sacrificed for it. Now you’re going to say that because I didn’t pay a tax you get to take it?
F*ck the heck off.
“You can tax whatever you want – but if we are to remain free, you can’t take what is mine. Not my property. Not your property. Not anyone’s property. Certainly not their primary residence or their farm or their ranch or small business.”
I never once said that I wanted to take your property. I just pointed out what property taxes are used for. If people aren’t paying property taxes, then we either come up with other taxes or we lose a lot of services. I have know problem paying a reasonable amount of property tax each year as I reap the benefits of the local government. Paying my fair share doesn’t make me less free, it means I am responsible.
Casper will never understand what freedom really is … to him it will always be whatever is allowed within a government controlled society. That’s his idea of being free. Knowing that Casper will never understand the more fundamental freedoms of not having to pay property taxes, not being taxed on every dollar spent, etc. (and yes Casper, when the government takes your money, that’s limiting your freedoms, just FYI), but let’s take a look at some surface level freedoms Democrats have recently taken away …
Jewish students no longer enjoy peace and quiet, thanks to Democrats
Military personnel & Medical personnel lost their careers because they refused to comply to a government mandate
Many small business owners had their businesses forcibly shut down by government and many never recovered.
And while Casper was “going anywhere he wanted too” he was forced to wear a mask
And these examples are just from the last 4 years. That’s not the freedom I expect Casper, I expect much more, and Democrats like you are just incapable of delivering that, so that’s why people like you will lose and hopefully go the fuck away.
Cluster,
Name a government that doesn’t levy som kind of tax. They all do. Governments also provide services (police, fire departments, FAA, etc.). If paying taxes means one isn’t free, then no one in the world is free. I guess I could go all Jack Reacher and own nothing but the clothes on my back, but I kind of like sleeping in the same bed every night. Besides, I would still be paying sales taxes in states that have them. Without government there is no freedom. It’s the strong taking from the weak. That said, there are some governments that I wouldn’t want to live under. Russia and North Korea come to mind. And ours continues to need work.
So tell me Cluster, what freedoms have you personally lost or are losing?
Casper is playing his little game of nitpicking and being ponderously pedantic. For example, if you have not actually been imprisoned for being a Trump supporter, he would claim that you have lost no freedom for supporting Trump although you now live with the possibility of losing freedom to travel at will if the government takes this identification of you as a domestic terrorist one step farther and puts you on a no-fly list. You don’t have to be shackled or imprisoned to lose the freedom to speak freely when the government labels people with the same beliefs as threats to democracy or enemies of the people or domestic terrorists. Look at the people persecuted for participating in the January 6 rally, denied their 1st Amendment rights to free speech, freedom of assembly and the right to petition their government for redress of wrongs, not to mention other rights violated such as the right to a speedy trial. Parents are denied the freedom to participate in their children’s education if they want their children to attend public schools. We have examples of people being arrested for the silly “crime” of “misgendering” people.
When a dark cloud of political oppression hangs over a nation every person under it has lost the essential freedom to FEEL free, after seeing examples of others having their rights openly and blatantly violated. We have discussed the weaponization of powerful federal agencies here, so don’t pretend you are unaware of them, and don’t try to play that silly game of pretending that someone has to have a personal experience of major loss of liberty to be aware of it as a national problem. From surveillance by agencies to intimidation tactics like SWAT takedowns at dawn or in airports for minor process crime allegations to banks shutting down accounts and credit cards, every American now knows that the government can put its boot on our necks any time it wishes, no matter what rights the Constitution has codified and guaranteed.
He’ll never get it; he can’t. If he does, his whole world crumbles. Here’s something interesting – a thread on X. About “Hatecraft” or “Emotional abuse propaganda”.
https://x.com/Theo_TJ_Jordan/status/1809758082760597558
You’ll love it, I’m sure – but what Casper won’t grasp, if he even bothers to read it, is that this sort of thing takes away our rights. Here we have a major, global news organization simply making things up. The nutshell is a lunatic set fire to a building killing three women who just happened to be lesbian – it is now being pushed by the Left as a hate crime and proof that Melie is evil…a rotten, no good fascist homophobe who is promoting hate. The guy is a Libertarian. He doesn’t give the least damn how someone lives – but he’s not in favor of a taxpayer-funded government department pushing lunatic Left ideology…so he shut down the absurd, Orwellian Ministry of Women, Gender and Diversity.
This sort of thing – and I love that “emotional abuse propaganda” – is designed to curtail debate. After all, if you don’t agree, what are you: some kind of homophobe? Shall we just call your employer and get you fired right now? It is designed to force people into a certain political grove regardless of their own particular views. And it the first step – it is part of the dehumanization process…to make people who take exception to all or some part of the LGBT, etc agenda into subhumans…people who aren’t allowed to participate in society. That is the Nuremburg Law phase…and if we let it go long enough, it will be the Concentration Camp phase. What people like Casper don’t want to think about is that by the time they rivet the shackles on you, you’ve been a slave for a while.
AMAZONA,
I get it. While you haven’t lost any rights personally, you FEEL like you are losing your rights because you might be denied some of your rights in the future. You are losing the essential freedom to FEEL free (Not sure where this is covered in the Constitution). You poor thing. MAGAs are such emotional beings.
You’ll love it, I’m sure – but what Casper won’t grasp, if he even bothers to read it, is that this sort of thing takes away our rights.
I read it. Basically you feel an incident in another country somehow takes away your rights. Why do you even care? Sad that you have to look so far away for something to get you upset.
Here we have a major, global news organization simply making things up.
So how do you know things were made up? I know FOX and RW media makes up stuff all the time, but how do you know this was made up?
Its an example, Casper. One of very many. Like the Matthew Shepard case. This was so very key in totally mainstreaming the gay rights movement. Made it socially unacceptable to even object on moral grounds to homosexuality. We actually passed a law in Shepard’s honor…because, went the Emotional Abuse Propaganda, Shepard was just this wonderful, gay guy who was set upon by homophobes and brutally murdered because he was gay…only many years later did we find out that it was just a combination of drugs and sex leading to a brutal robbery. In other words, it was all just sordid garbage by people living disgusting, immoral lives on a lot of levels.
But, once the Left makes a lie, they never retreat from it – there is still a Matthew Shepard Foundation raking in hundreds of thousands of dollars per year for Shepard’s mom. He’s got memorials in his honor where he’s praised as a “trailblazer”…you know, for what? Being a meth dealer who cruised bars? I don’t know. Don’t care. It is all a lie. A gigantic structure of lies – that is all he is now.
And these lies enslave us. That is what you will not grasp. Our whole society now acts upon falsehoods…we can’t do things because of lies. Can’t say things because of lies. Must comply to this or that diktat because of lies.
And you’re sitting over there saying, “what freedom have you lost?”. The freedom to speak the truth, and thus all freedoms.
“It’s an example, Casper. One of very many. Like the Matthew Shepard case. This was so very key in totally mainstreaming the gay rights movement. Made it socially unacceptable to even object on moral grounds to homosexuality.”
Not sure how mainstreaming gay rights is a bad thing. You can still object to homosexuality and people are also allowed to disagree with you. Why can’t gay people have the same rights as the rest of us? It’s not like anyone is forcing you to become gay.
As for the Matthew Shepard story itself, a single journalist came up with a different story than what had been reported in the first place. The story has been questioned by members of the police and other members of the community. The journalist also made a lot of money off his work. Of course since his version aligned with what you want to believe, you are sure it is the truth.
Fact is, there have been numerous incidents over the years of homosexuals being targeted. Highlighting the problem has made it much easier for that segment of society to exist. It doesn’t take away any of your personal freedoms.
No, there have not been. Gays are not targeted by roving bands of heterosexual homophobes. Just like black people aren’t targeted by roving bands of racist cops.
IT DOESN’T HAPPEN.
We are not a racist nation. We are not a homophobic nation. We are not a nation of violent bigots. At least, not on the Right: you on the Left have been fostering anti-Semitic bigots for about a decade now and today Jews live in constant fear. You going to take ownership of that?
Of course you won’t.
We don’t care what you are. Live your life. Do what you want. We’re happy for you as long as what you do doesn’t drive down our property values. But you’ve crafted this Narrative that forever says Evil White Straight Christians are out to get people. And you use bullsh** stories like Shepard’s to back it up…and note that now your Narrative is questioned, you have doubts about the alternate story. Why didn’t you have doubts to begin with? Why don’t you on the Left ever have doubts when these stories come up? Why don’t you wait for proof positive? A poor SOB was beaten to death – isn’t that bad enough? No: you’ve got to weave some fairy tale about him being targeted for being gay…rather than merely running afoul of some really stupid life choices.
Because then “he was only going for skittles” and “hands up, don’t shoot” would never have become part of the story.
But to get back to freedom – I subscribe to Catholic teaching on homosexuality. If I were to speak that – the views of the 2,000 year old Roman Catholic Church! – in a work environment, I’d be fired. If I were to post it on social media I’d immediately be harassed. There is nothing in that teaching which in any way condemns the homosexual, as such. There is a definitive command in there that I work to end any sign – any sign – of unjust discrimination. This is dogma, Casper – I am MORALLY OBLIGATED to defeat any sign of unjust discrimination against homosexuals. If I fail to do this, I have sinned. I’d had to go to Confession. But I cannot speak Catholic teaching on the matter freely in public even though there is nothing even a homosexual can actually be offended by in it – a gay person can object to it. Any person can. Anyone is free to argue that it is an incorrect view. But it is a view about sexual activity that has logic backed up by biology and human experience. No harm is intended by the dogma. No harm is possible from those who adhere to the dogma. It might not be what you agree with, but it harms nobody to have someone state the view.
Because of the Left, it is considered hate speech. And you know as well as I do that if the Left really gets its way, I’d be sent to jail for saying it.
Mark,
I’m absolutely fine with your Catholic beliefs as long as you aren’t trying to force them on the rest of us. I have gay friends who are married, including some with children. I’m happy for them and I am fine with them having the same rights and responsibilities as the rest of us. I am very much against anyone being forced to marry a person of another gender
Personally, I try to follow the teachings of Christ and he never once preached against Homosexuality.
We’ve all heard the narrative lately that Biden is working for Americans while Trump is working for himself, right? Which is laughable considering Trump never took a salary while Joe Biden has been feeding at the tax payer trough for over 50 years, but this recent action of Biden shows us just how selfish he truly is. Rather then help Kamala and step aside for her candidacy which he said he would, rather than listen to 70% of Americans who say that he can not complete another 4 year term, rather than listen to his colleagues and donors … Hunter, Jill, and Joe have decided they like the power and perks and have selfishly chosen to stay.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13606187/Deluded-Biden-interview-debate-quit-MAUREEN-CALLAHAN.html
As Jeff Childers notes at C&C, the tide is turning, and there’s no stopping it. That said, I hope the Biden cabal resists right up to the bitter end.
Coffee & Covid is just delicious this morning.
Here’s another freedom lost. When I click on the link, my web browser won’t open it, as Coffee & Covid is considered an “unsafe site”. Not sure if any of you get that warning, but it also happens with Fox News … my browser, google chrome, won’t open it. That’s just the powers to be curating the information I am allowed to see. Orwell was right.
That’s interesting. I use Chrome, and I don’t have that problem, at least not with C&C.
Don’t you get the feeling that, for the first time in a long time, maybe in our lifetime, the socio-political narrative is shifting? It looks very much like the Left has grossly over-played their hand.
100% agree, Democrats have crossed the rubicon and I think they are slowly realizing that fact and desperately trying to rearrange the deck chairs (Titanic reference), to save themselves. It is fun to watch if it weren’t so dangerous. Currently, Biden is a shuffling and mumbling security risk at a time when we are closer to nuclear war than ever before. The next 6 months will be a lot of white knuckles praying nothing worse happens.