Are You Ready to Rumble…Nervously?

Nervous? I think most of us are – but it is time for calm. Most of the early voting is either wrapping up now or will very soon. Do keep in mind that early vote estimates are just that: estimates. Sure, we can roughly assume 95%+ of GOP and Dem votes will go to the Party…and while we have polling of Indys, we don’t know how they’ll actually vote. On balance, I’d rather be GOP right now than Dem…but until those votes are counted, it is all just guesswork, some more sophisticated than others.

Heard that Harris is moving money from North Carolina to Virginia – if so, then she’s got to draw an inside straight to get to just 270. What such a move means is that AZ/NV/GA/NC are out of reach and so she needs all of WI/MI/PA and can’t lose VA (or NH/MN/NM). And if this is the case then any of WI/MI/PA (or reach States VA/NH/MN/NM) gets Trump to victory. Trump as of this moment appears to have far more paths to victory than Harris.

The Senate looks solid for the GOP – with GOP pickups in MT and WV getting the GOP to 51 (presuming we don’t lose TX – I think Cruz will be fine, but Dems are talking it up as a chance). But the GOP has real opportunities for upsets in WI and PA – with both Baldwin and Casey running desperately away from Harris and the Democrats. NV and AZ? Very much long shots – with Brown in NV having a much better chance than Lake in AZ.

House? Your guess is as good as mine: though I expect a Trump win to drag sufficient over the finish line to get a GOP House…a Harris win doing the same for Dems but with a slightly higher chance that Harris would come in with a GOP controlled Congress if it goes that way.

Naturally, right after I wrote that about Lake, we get this:

It is very much an outlier – everyone else shows Gallego comfortably ahead. But if it is like this, then a Trump win would drag Lake over the finish line. The trend line on it is interesting. And it is in line with the general thrust of polling which shows a shift to the GOP increasing over time.

And that is where we can get to dare to dream big – there is a chance (call it 25%) that we’re heading to a 1980-style result for the GOP. But we’re just going to have to wait and see!

101 thoughts on “Are You Ready to Rumble…Nervously?

  1. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 29, 2024 / 8:07 pm

    Don’t be fooled by the media noise, as your poll, and this one below shows, Lake is well within margin of error and I believe is ahead. I just don;t see many split ticket voters out there this year

    https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1851321905493561409

  2. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 30, 2024 / 9:14 am

    So yesterday, the President of United States called us all garbage and I guess at this point we should be outraged, at least according to Democrat standards. Conservative pundits should be all over the airwaves, clutching pearls, holding back the tears because of the extremely divisive language that is sooo upsetting. Right? Who has the energy. We know these people already and that comment was completely expected. Casper is right, we don’t share the same reality, nor do we ever want to. I will bet my IRA account that roughly 80% of Kamala’s votes are votes against Trump and not for Kamala. She is the very definition of a Manchurian candidate.

    I’ve been reading reports on the challenges school districts are having throughout the country with all the illegal immigrant children, most of whom speak several different languages. Shouldn’t be a problem right? What do democrats tell us? They make us stronger?

    Naomi Wolfe has endorsed Trump and that’s huge. Naomi is a leftist but I always had respect for her because she is consistent and honest. Common sense Americans will all be voting for Trump and our victory will be long awaited and wonderful

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/10/prominent-feminist-author-former-advisor-al-gores-campaign/

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 30, 2024 / 12:56 pm

      I will bet my IRA account that roughly 80% of Kamala’s votes are votes against Trump and not for Kamala.

      This is pretty obvious from the interviews with people who say they support her. Not one has cited anything about HER that justifies voting for her, other than skin color and assumed genitalia. They as much as admit that by not running a pro-Harris campaign but depending on an anti-Trump campaign.

      Unfortunately, Dems don’t seem to be smart enough to realize that by voting against Trump they might end up with the most inept, incompetent, disastrous president in our history, and possibly a nuclear war, along with escalating inflation and internal strife and conflicts.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 30, 2024 / 3:41 pm

      My bet is that we are getting a very broad coalition – to be sure, most of the Left is simply too stupid to understand…but there are smarter Lefties…and moderates. And even Never Trump GOPers who can see the writing on the wall. Add in the mobilization of people who stopped voting out of disgust with the system but who seem willing to place a bet on Trump, we might have a very good result on Tuesday.

      Or, we won’t: in which case we’re going to have to adjust ourselves to a reality where we are the oppressed minority.

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 30, 2024 / 3:51 pm

        we’re going to have to adjust ourselves to a reality where we are the oppressed minority.

        But a well-armed oppressed minority.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 30, 2024 / 5:23 pm

        Yep

  3. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 30, 2024 / 12:48 pm

    I see people expressing support for Kamala but you know what I don’t see? Reasons to support Kamala.

    She avoids discussing the problems facing the nation, and when she is forced to address one her response is either vague babbling or a plan to throw money at it. Our money.

    All the support I see for Kamala is either pure naked tribalism—she is a Democrat and they support Democrats—-or fear of Trump. Nicole Wallace emotes that: “…the “stakes literally are life & death for every woman in America” and that is “not hyperbole” or “an exaggeration.” And then, of course, being Nicole Wallace, she plunges into hyperbole and exaggeration—though in this case she is not “exaggerating”, she is simply lying.

    Your girlfriend could be the one in legal jeopardy if she needs a pill from out of state or overseas, or if she has to travel across state lines because the local clinic closed up. Your wife or mother could be the ones at higher risk of dying from undiagnosed cervical cancer because they have no access to regular gynecological care. Your daughter could be the one too terrified to call the doctor if she’s bleeding during an unexpected pregnancy.

    You read this and all any sane person can react with is ????????? Look at what she says. She says that there “could be legal jeopardy” for ordering “a pill” from “out of state or overseas”. Unless she is talking about illegal drugs, she must be talking about the abortificant “morning after” pill, which is, BTW, not a drug that will become illegal. The pill is a strong drug which, if used incorrectly and without the supervision of a doctor can be dangerous or even deadly. It must be taken at a certain early stage in pregnancy. Taken later, when the fetus is more developed, it can result in hemorrhaging that can lead to death. Taken in a pregnancy where the embryo is lodged in a fallopian tube instead of the uterus (ectopic pregnancy) the same thing can happen. Republicans have fought the effort to make this drug available by mail without any consultation with a doctor and without medical supervision—and THIS is recast by the Lying Left as a somehow nefarious effort to deny healthcare to women although it is clearly an effort to protect women.

    If your daughter is “too terrified to call the doctor if she’s bleeding during an unexpected pregnancy” her blood is on your hands, because you are the one who lied to her to advance a political agenda and convinced her that for some reason bleeding during a pregnancy would expose her to legal penalties. We have already seen the consequences of that kind of lying fear-mongering as a woman who had taken the pill too late in her pregnancy was hemorrhaging and was afraid to ask for medical help because she had been told that this would lead to her arrest. The official lie was that she was denied care because she had tried to abort her child, but the truth was that she would have received medical care without any legal repercussions, if she had not been too panicked by the lies to ask for it.

    And if a community no longer has adequate medical care, such as enough doctors, blame the government interference in health care insurance and the subsequent decision by many doctors to simply not participate.

    But this shrill and, truly, insane ranting of wholly imaginary “dangers” allegedly represented by a Trump presidency seems to be typical of support for Harris. In other words, on one hand this support is not based on analysis of what about her would make her an effective president and on the other on a boatload of absolutely insane hysteria without the slightest element of fact or truth or even common sense.

    Harris supporters seem to have no real concept of what being President of the United States means. They act as if it is just some party favor given to the person deemed most popular. There seems to be no consideration of how a woman who can’t have a simple substantive conversation with a sympathetic “journalist” can somehow change into someone who can sit across the table from someone like Vladimir Putin and effectively represent the interests of the United States.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 30, 2024 / 3:37 pm

      It is all insane, shrill lying.

      We think that maybe kindergarteners shouldn’t have drag queen story hour: “you won’t let us say gay!”

      Perhaps instruction manuals for homosexual hook ups shouldn’t be in a middle school library: “you’re banning books!”

      After 6 or 16 weeks or even 6 months, maybe abortion shouldn’t be legal: “you’re trying to control our bodies!”

      It does, however, work with Democrats – because they still watch the news and because the news tells them that if they agree with the news they are good people. How many such are there? We find out 11/5.

      As I’ve said all along, if they can lie someone as perfectly useless as Harris into the White House, we never had a chance. And this is whether she wins big or small with cheating. The bottom line is that if we have a sensible, logical population of at least modest education, she can’t possibly win. The lies used to propel her are so stupid – so utterly divorced from easily observed reality – that if they work, we’re doomed. It’ll be time to start thinking of secession. At bare minimum getting the deepest Red States to simply ignore the federal courts and complete non-cooperation with federal law enforcement…and start implementing policies that wean our people off federal aid of all types.

    • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 30, 2024 / 6:06 pm

      I see people expressing support for Kamala but you know what I don’t see? Reasons to support Kamala.

      What I see is someone–you–who doesn’t want to know the reasons people support Kamala. We could give you a number of reasons, but you would just delete them because it’s simpler for you to (a) pretend not know, and (b) not deal with actual reasons voters give for supporting her. Much easier to blithely assert it’s all shrill lying.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 30, 2024 / 7:25 pm

        That is several words to say you don’t really have reasons without having to admit you don’t really have reasons. That silly “I’d tell you but then…” pretense never works. People support Kamala because she is not Trump. A couple of months ago the same people were fretting about how to get rid of her without alienating the black vote and then, within a day or so, upon realizing you were stuck with her, you started that silly “enthusiasm/joy” charade. It’s just “blue through and through”. I’ve listened to interviews with voters to see if there are any reasons, and so far have only found passion for killing babies and panic due to believing lies about Trump and, of course, the blind tribalism that keeps the party going.

        It’s not “all shrill lying”. It isn’t anything at all, just a big void.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 30, 2024 / 7:53 pm

        That is several words to say you don’t really have reasons without having to admit you don’t really have reasons. That silly “I’d tell you but then…” pretense never works.

        Neither does deleting comments that merely provide facts, which you do routinely.

        But reasons to vote for Harris? Just off the top of my head:

        1. She supports a women’s rights to control their bodies.
        2. Her fiscal and tax policies are better than Trump’s.
        3. She would build on the climate change initiatives of the Biden administration.
        4. She would pick competent public servants for her administration rather than loyalist lackeys.
        5. She would appoint competent judges. And especially if the Senate is Republican, then they would be moderates. (That is, if a Republican-led Senate doesn’t just abdicate its job of confirming them.)
        6. She would maintain appropriate distance from the Justice Department.
        7. She would maintain and build on the Affordable Care Act.
        8. She would work to drive down drug and medical prices by extending Inflation Reduction Act provisions.
        9. She isn’t a felon.

        Now, you and I both know that the only reason you didn’t delete my previous comment is that you want me to provide some fodder you can pick apart and claim they aren’t reasons at all. Feel free. We all know how you play the game.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 30, 2024 / 9:08 pm

        Why do you think I am the one who deletes posts? What is the basis for this constant whine?

        1. No one wants to control what women do with THEIR bodies. It’s just that we are not math-deficient and can count, and know that in pregnancy there are TWO bodies, and there is concern for the life and well being of the second, vulnerable, human being in that equation. We actually wish women would take more care to control their bodies, so they would avoid getting pregnant. Remember, Republicans wanted to make birth control available over the counter, without a prescription, and Democrats voted it down. Could it be that fewer pregnant women might delete the Dem abortion-obsessed base?

        2. What ARE her “fiscal policies”?

        3. There have been no “climate change initiatives” during the Biden administration that have shown any degree or kind of success, not to mention that the whole climate change thing is a huge scam based on (A) enabling the transfer of vast sums of wealth and (B) based on junk science.

        4. Cite your sources. As most administrators in the Bureaucratic State are Democrats, this doesn’t make much sense other than a talking point.

        5. Define a “moderate” judge. As the sole role of a judge is to apply the laws as they are written, fairly and without bias, you seem to think there is a range of acceptability within that role. What is it and why?

        6. I’m not sure what you mean by this but it would be a refreshing change from our current collusion between the DOJ and the Executive Branch in using lawfare to intimidate, silence and punish political opposition. Has she committed to ending this?

        7. This is a reason to vote against her, as the ill-named “Affordable Care Act” is neither affordable or related to care. It is a governmental interference in contracts.

        8. The “Inflation Reduction Act” does nothing to reduce inflation and using the might and power of the federal government to control prices is unconstitutional.

        9. Yes, the concocted felony bookkeeping issue is very important to people like you who base their “political” beliefs on superficial symbols.

        And, of course, the whining caveat that this is just a trick to get you to expose the shallowness and superficiality of your reasons to vote for Harris. Clearly you realize that your decision to vote for her is purely emotional, and flies in the face of reason, as she is so obviously mentally deficient, an abysmal communicator and has a history of lying and stealing other peoples’ ideas and words.

        “We all know how you play the game.” Well, you ought to know by now. That is, I “play the game” by presenting objective facts.

        Here’s an idea: Go to this ad and watch the videos of Kamala talking about her days as a DA and come back and explain to us all why you still want her to be president.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 30, 2024 / 9:46 pm

        Clearly you realize that your decision to vote for her is purely emotional, and flies in the face of reason, as she is so obviously mentally deficient, an abysmal communicator and has a history of lying and stealing other peoples’ ideas and words.

        See? I give you reasons for why people would vote for Harris, and it doesn’t matter. You still fall back on the canard that anyone who votes for Harris is doing so for “purely emotional” reasons. lol

        Here’s an idea: Go to this ad and watch the videos of Kamala talking about her days as a DA

        Here’s an idea. Use google if you truly don’t know what Harris and Trump’s economic policies are. Given your apparent ignorance (and demanding that I explain something you should at least have a rudimentary grasp of), maybe you’re the one who shouldn’t be knocking the reasons other people have for choosing candidates.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 30, 2024 / 10:04 pm

        Nice try, Scout, but no. You said you have good reasons to vote for Harris other than “she’s not Trump” and you wrote a little laundry list of alleged reasons for your support. And when asked to explain them, or defend them, you tuck your tail and head for the hills. I’ve paid attention to what Kamala has said, every version of what she has said. You can fall back on name calling and insults, which is after all your wheelhouse, but you clearly can’t explain your “reasoning” for your intent to vote for her. I didn’t say I don’t know what those “policies” are. I just wondered if you do, and if you can defend them, and why. Clearly that’s a hard “no” on all counts.

        And it’s also obvious that the video I asked you to watch has scared you, to the point of pushing you into attack mode. True, it’s ankle-biter level attack mode, but still an effort to come across all big and tough. (Another fail.) The fact is, anyone watching that video is going to have a hard time defending a vote for her. From her gloating over her ability to ruin peoples’ lives to her willingness to abuse the power of her position to the general gleeful nastiness she illustrated, it’s understandable that you can’t even try to defend her.

        So you attack me.

        The thing is, the Kamala we see in that video seems to be quite compatible with the persona you show us of yourself.

        Which is why you are so scorned here, as nothing but a mindless wannabe attack dog with no principles and no ideology but just some weird need to be nasty. It’s why you have been kicked off the blog so many times, under so many names, over so many years, and why you still feel compelled to slink back in when you can till the moderators (see that “s”? That indicates a plural) get fed up with your petty brainless snarling and pull the plug again.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 30, 2024 / 10:12 pm

        Nice try, Scout, but no. You said you have good reasons to vote for Harris other than “she’s not Trump” and you wrote a little laundry list of alleged reasons for your support. And when asked to explain them, or defend them, you tuck your tail and head for the hills.

        Nice try, Scout? lol

        Just to remind you (since you appear to have forgotten what you wrote), you said, “I see people expressing support for Kamala but you know what I don’t see? Reasons to support Kamala.”

        I gave you reasons. No one expects you to agree with them. Of course, you won’t agree with them. We all know that. That is not the point. The point is there are valid policy reasons for voting for her, which you seem to be unaware of. Hence, you continue to beg me to explain them to you.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 7:28 am

        My goodness, you are a pissy little thing, aren’t you? When you post what you seem to think is an insulting comment, that I “beg” you for things, the image of pursed-lip squinty-eyed Church Lady comes to mind. If in fact you are male, I should point out to you that cattiness is not a very manly quality—though now that I think of it, it does fit in well with the current concept of “man” we are seeing on the Left. (You do telegraph, in that comment, a need to see a woman as subservient and inferior, “begging” you for something, but that’s part of your fantasy life, not about me.)

        OK, technically you did give me “reasons”. Copied and pasted from the Kamala Harris platform, vague and nonspecific and just generalities dependent on fairy dust and a magic wand, deficient in detail, but yes—technically you did present some “reasons” to support Harris. You obediently parroted the narrative your masters provided for you.

        What was blatantly lacking was any explanation of any of the platitudes and generalities. For example, why do women have to be told that Harris will defend their ability to kill their own babies? (Carefully using the false narrative that denies the brutality and narcissism of abortion by using a deceptive slogan.) They already have this ability, and the 10th Amendment (part of the Constitution, BTW) says that the federal government can’t intercede here, that the issue is clearly one of state sovereignty. So what is she promising? To subvert the Constitution? Or is she just pandering to the demographic the Left has ginned up and weaponized, that of shrill females demanding societal approval for their pathological selfishness? But you obediently repeated the slogan.

        The rest of your “reasons” are mere wish lists, mere nonspecific generalities of what the base might find significant, without a single detail or plan or outline or description of (1) why this is important and (2) how it might be accomplished.

        To sum up the “reasons” you will vote for Kamala, they are:
        (1) She is not Trump
        (2) She is now going to do the opposite of everything she has done in the past and “fix” the problems she has either contributed to or ignored for her entire political career, including her four years as vice president. Somehow. In some undefined way.
        (3) Her history of plagiarism, inventing the kind of family necessary to pander to black voters, advancement through stylized prostitution instead of merit and accomplishment, abuse of power and disdain for half of the American public as well as the Constitution are all quite acceptable to you (see 1 and 2, above) as well as her personal history of radical Marxism and her choice of a vice president who is openly pro-China, openly socialist, and whose many ties to the Communist Party in China are well known.

        But you did, I admit, present some “reasons”. Good on you. The thing is, you made my point for me by tacitly admitting that you knew at the time they were so specious and meaningless I could and would “shred” them without any effort at all, and of course without taking a personal position on any of them. By just copying and pasting the platitudes of the party platform you could posture as having given reasons to vote for her, without committing yourself to actually owning those “reasons” by explaining or defending them.

        So bold. So courageous. Such a strong spokesman (?) for the Left.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 7:38 am

        The point is there are valid policy reasons for voting for her

        Maybe so, but you didn’t describe or define them, much less defend them. You just copied the generic wish list her campaign has provided, with no specifics. It’s all just fluff and smoke and mirrors, with no substance.

        Which, obviously, is all you need from a candidate, once you have determined that the jersey is blue.

      • casper3031's avatar casper3031 October 30, 2024 / 11:53 pm

        AMAZONA.

        You are right. My decision to vote for Harris is an emotional one.

        I am happy to support a candidate who values the American people and the Constitution.

        I am joyful that the majority of Americans are embracing her.

        I am sad that so many Americans are ignoring the obvious physical and mental problems Trump has on a daily basis.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 6:54 am

        What a lovely, vapid, platitudinous murmuring of vague generalities and giddy expressions of what sounds like nothing more than a crush.

        Do you have any actual examples of Kamala Harris acting in a way that indicates value for the American people and the Constitution? Some of what are described as her “policies” are in direct opposition to the Constitution, and her snide dismissal of half of the American public certainly shows no “value for the American people”. Someone who “values the American people” would not have contributed to flooding the nation with tens of millions of people who have no allegiance to this country, who are often hostile to this country, who often come here to prey on the Americans you claim she values, and she would not have been taking money and jobs away from those Americans you claim she “values” to support them.

        It’s kind of sweet to see your adulation for the woman, but it is all fairy dust and magical thinking. Watch the video I linked, watch the entire episode of her smugly bragging about abusing the power of her office to ruin lives, and give just a moment of thought to what it is about this woman and her actions and her attitudes that make you joyful. These are her words, videos of her words and voice and enthusiasm for how she has wielded her power. THIS is the real Kamala Harris. She not only acted in these despicable ways, she found her behavior so charming that she bragged about it. She laughed about what she did to innocent people.

        This and the plagiarism and the invented family and the documented history of being appointed for positions for which she had no qualifications solely because of her sexual relations with a powerful (married) man and the abundant examples of her lack of intellect, all define a shallow, unserious poseur who is the perfect example of a post turtle.

        Poor baby, veering as you seem to be between the JOY of Kamalalove and the SADNESS that so many Americans fail to see the “obvious physical and mental problems Trump has” that you see with such objective clarity. Well, not that YOU see, but that you are told your masters see and then relate to you, with explanations of what they “really mean”.

        I’m sure you did not listen to or watch the Joe Rogan/Donald Trump interview, but if you had you would have seen a man with a broad and deep understanding of the problems facing this country. The segment on power generation—–the defects of the current “renewable energy” efforts and the benefits of nuclear energy, as well as the roadblocks put in the way of this nation building small, efficient, nuclear power plants—-stands in stark contrast to the vague generalities that pass for “policies” on the Left. “Mental problems”? He has more detailed information on more subjects than anyone realizes. “Physical problems”? Well, he can do several speeches and rallies in a day, day in and day out, without taking a day off, while the woman you revere has to take days off after one or two “rallies” where her “supporters” are bused in, and/or paid to be there, and/or there not to see her but for the free concerts she promises to those who attend, where she speaks from a teleprompter for a few minutes. Even the placards held by the people chosen to sit behind her when she speaks are platitudes. FREEDOM. Yeah, that’s specific and tells us what she represents. (Freedom from state sovereignty, freedom from free speech, all sorts of “freedom” redefined by radical Leftism.)

        But the real message of your posts, so full of cockeyed joy and hopium and delusional belief in Magical Thinking, is that you have very accurately defined and illustrated what it takes to support Kamala Harris for the presidency of the United States. And it is exactly what I thought it would be, a strange brew of giddy fanboi crush and dismissal of the elements of Kamala Harris that make her so unfit to be president. No matter what you are told, you gleefully lap it up and beg for more.

        And, as you admit, your support is based on emotion, while reality is simply ignored.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 10:07 am

        Her boss just called half the American people garbage, Cappy. While she and her surrogates spent the last week calling us Nazis.

        Anyways, I know where you’re getting your info – at least I know their X accounts. They are carefully selecting polling and a few bits of other data to paint a rosy picture for Harris and it all can be true. If:

        1. Indys break 60/40 for Harris
        2. 10% of GOPers vote Harris
        3. Democrat Election Day voting is a much higher proportion of the Dem vote than in recent elections

        And now I hate to break it to ya, but this confluence of events if highly unlikely – and if all three don’t happen, then what is seen in the overall polling and early vote is going to be the result…a Trump win.

        And as for joy – Trump is the joy. Rolling up in a garbage truck was absolutely hilarious and was a very gentle way to poke back. Maybe my side loses – if that is how it is to be, then so be it. But we’re having a blast…this has been fun to watch.

        To make you feel better – the jarring note is a new Gallup poll showing a 10 point Dem lead in voter enthusiasm.

        But the bad news is that the final GA poll shows a 5 point Trump lead while it looks like the Dem early vote lead in PA will be less than 450,000 when they needed something like 550,000 to have a real shot.

      • casper3031's avatar casper3031 October 31, 2024 / 12:05 pm

        “I’m sure you did not listen to or watch the Joe Rogan/Donald Trump interview, but if you had you would have seen a man with a broad and deep understanding of the problems facing this country.”

        I did watch it and what I saw was a tired old man suffering from Dementia who jumped from subject to subject repeating lies and misinformation. The guy wants to be a whale psychologist? Rogan didn’t ask him anything hard and he still struggled to stay on track.

        I get it though. As a true believer you have to find some meaning in his constant word salad.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 5:25 pm

        Anyways, the most accurate pollster of 2020 just released their final and it shows Trump winning comfortably.

        So, just chew on that as you fret to Tuesday.

        As for me, I believe in God – no matter the result, that is all that matters.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 9:29 pm

        You constantly illustrate that you have strong filters. Nothing else could explain what you got from the Trump/Rogan interview. “Tired?” He went three full hours, without a break, without a drink, without a script, without a teleprompter—and then went out and ran a big rally.

        “Dementia?” He had point after point down pat. He illustrated deep knowledge of things like the issues we have in building nuclear power plants. Anyone who took the joke about being a whale psychologist as anything but a joke is without a doubt dour, sour, totally humor-deficient and determined to find fault.

        Rogan did ask him hard questions, and they also had a conversation about a verbal technique Trump called, define and illustrated as “weaving”. You can honor your new savior by imitating her penchant for plagiarism by calling what Trump said “word salad” but clearly you don’t know what that term means, or how it is applied to Kamala, or how it fails to apply to Trump. As he discussed, he purposedly weaves different narratives together, but also makes a point of getting back to the original premise. It’s not his fault you can’t keep up, or that you project your adulation for Kamala onto others, assuming that is the basis for admiring Trump.

      • casper3031's avatar casper3031 November 2, 2024 / 10:08 pm

        “You constantly illustrate that you have strong filters. Nothing else could explain what you got from the Trump/Rogan interview. “Tired?” He went three full hours, without a break, without a drink, without a script, without a teleprompter—and then went out and ran a big rally.”

        “Dementia?” He had point after point down pat. He illustrated deep knowledge of things like the issues we have in building nuclear power plants. Anyone who took the joke about being a whale psychologist as anything but a joke is without a doubt dour, sour, totally humor-deficient and determined to find fault.” 

        His deep knowledge consisted of lying and making stuff up, much of it having nothing to do with reality.

        Anyone who took the joke about being a whale psychologist as anything but a joke is without a doubt dour, sour, totally humor-deficient and determined to find fault.” 

        Funny how every time Trump says something really dumb or racist, or completely off the wall you always classify it as a joke.

        Rogan did ask him hard questions, and they also had a conversation about a verbal technique Trump called, define and illustrated as “weaving”.

        There is no such thing as “weaving”, at least in the way that Trump is using it. What he is demonstrating is the inability to complete a rational thought. His mind jumps from one subject to another as he forgets what he is talking about. He forgets who is president, who he is running against, where he is half the time, and what year it is.

        Last night Trump spent a rally pissed at a microphone. At one point he simulated giving the microphone a blow job. That isn’t sane behavior. He does a great job of sanding in front of a group of his cult members and repeating the same lies night after night, but he struggles in situations where he is actually challenged. One of the reasons he did so badly at the debate is because he is so predictable. It was easy for Harris to bait him. He has to respond anytime anyone challenges his fragile ego and he can never be wrong.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 1:15 am

        You might be spending too much time with RockCow, because now you’re lying, too.

        For example, you say: His deep knowledge consisted of lying and making stuff up, much of it having nothing to do with reality

        Well, he had a lot to say about renewable energy, about the foolishness of wind energy and the problems of the short life span of the turbines and blades, about the ecological dangers to birds from land-mounted turbines and sea life to those in the ocean, and then some detailed discussion about the issues surrounding building nuclear power plants here vs the strategy in France, for example. None of that was a lie, none of it was made up, and all of it was tightly related to reality.

        Well, maybe not to YOUR reality, but as you keep reminding us with your vapid posts your reality is about as solid as your giddy admittedly emotion-based super-joy about Kamala.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 1:22 am

        There is no such thing as “weaving”, at least in the way that Trump is using it.

        I have no difficulty in believing that you are incapable of understanding anything more complex than the simple minded drivel you post here. Remember, I can go back to your early admissions about your pathetically odd and distorted explanations of what the Constitution said and meant, and it hasn’t gotten better over the years.

        In fact, I think that being in a small school in a small city that is predominately conservative acted as kind of a restraint on your natural tendencies to mentally wander, because once you moved to Hawaii and were among other Libs you seemed to become increasingly unmoored.

        Suffice it to say, someone with your level of comprehension is far from competent to lecture on complex speaking styles.

  4. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 31, 2024 / 8:28 am

    I’m kinda late to the party here, but Amazona has held down the fort in an exemplary manner. In reading the comments of Casper and Rocks Cows, I’m reminded of something my college freshman history professor said that had a lasting effect on me. He said the best measure of what a person is made of is from their own words, not what someone else has written or said about them. This most certainly holds true with Donald Trump, especially in this election cycle. I didn’t listen to the whole Joe Rogan interview, but the Tyrus interview, which was less than half an hour showed a side of Trump that most people have never seen. the reason Kamala Harris won’t do an interview like that is because she simply can’t.

    Looking back at Rocks Cows list of reasons to vote for Harris, it reminds me of a young kid writing his/her first resume. No serious person could consider any of the reasons legitimate, but I’m still laughing at this one:

    6. She would maintain appropriate distance from the Justice Department.

    There is no administration in my lifetime that has used the Justice Department is a more corrupt way than the Harris/Biden Administration. That’s like promising that a career bank robber will stay away from banks.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 9:01 am

      I listened to the Rogan interview while driving, so I could hear half an hour or so at a time, sometimes a larger segment. Trump doesn’t always telegraph the scope or depth of his knowledge, because the format of his communications with the public doesn’t lend itself to that but in the Rogan interview he had the opportunity to develop an idea, and I was fascinated by the details he knows. I was very impressed by his whole riff on renewable energy, and when he explained the problems we have had in building nuclear power plants it put the entire regulatory machine of the Bureaucratic State on trial.

      The Left’s concept of what is involved in being president is so superficial it is not funny, it is alarming. You have to have knowledge of Trump’s one-on-one exchanges with heads of state and leaders of various organizations to start to understand that this is not just a ceremonial position but one that demands a very high degree of competence, knowledge and ability to communicate the determination of the United States to defend itself on all fronts. And it also demands stamina.

      Kamala Harris was so intimidated by the prospect of attending a dinner party where she would be expected to visit with competent knowledgeable people that she panicked, and her staff had to set up a practice dinner for her, with practice topics, so she could prepare herself. The President of the United States is not going to be able to set up practice meetings with national leaders (especially those not friendly to the United States (such as Kim Jong Un or Vladimir Putin or the head of Hamas) and go in with a script to follow. The President of the United States is not going to be able to take two days to set up and practice for such a meeting and then take another couple of days off to rest afterward. The stresses and demands of the campaign trail are nothing compared to the day-in-day-out stresses and demands of the presidency. I know there is the example of Joe Biden doing a part-time presidency, a few hours a week with plenty of beach time in between, but we don’t want a part-time president.

      We saw how much eight years of the presidency aged Barack Obama, and we are seeing in real time the effects of this campaign on Harris–she is looking gaunt, exhausted, and often self-medicated, and this is a campaign where she has people doing the work and making the decisions and writing her speeches and all she has to do is show up and read a short speech. On the other hand, Trump can handle a three hour unscripted interview and walk out the door to meet with people and then make a speech and attend a rally and do the same thing the next day. Look at all the one-on-one unscripted interviews he has done, often with people not exactly friendly to his campaign. (And no one has to pay people to attend his rallies.)

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 9:09 am

      …the best measure of what a person is made of is from their own words, not what someone else has written or said about them and this is why I encourage people, especially those enchanted with the fantasy version of Kamala Harris presented to them by the Left (once they realized they couldn’t dump her, as they wanted to do, and instead had to start making a silk purse out of this sow’s ear) and watch that video of her gloating over how she had used the power of her position, “the stroke of my pen”, to ruin the lives of people. That was her own wording, BTW.

      If she viewed the powers of a state Attorney General as freedom to impose her will and the might of the State on others, imagine how she would treat the powers of the presidency. She tells us how she sees power and how she wields it, and we should pay attention.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 9:56 am

        As a prosecutor, Kamala put more parents in prison than she did drug traffickers. Early voting numbers are off the charts and I just can’t believe those are people running to the polls to vote for more of the same.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 10:05 am

        It’s Tribal Warfare, millions of people blindly obeying their tribal leaders. All Blue, Through and Through. We just saw two examples of the “thinking” behind Harris votes, and it is typical of what is motivating these self-destructive lemmings.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 10:02 am

      It is all just absorbed talking points. People voting Harris are either venal or dumb, with the overwhelming mass being dumb. That is, they simply won’t think the matter through.

      “Well, I hate Trump because he’s so Orange Man Bad and I’m soooooo happy he was indicted for the J6 thing in a DC court because that will make sure we get him and stop that Bad Orange Man.” – Lefties looking at the case.

      “Uh, you can’t charge him like that and on appeal either before or after the trial this is all going to get tossed because its ridiculous to think that Trump was trying to overthrow the government.” – anyone with common sense.

      The case then gets tossed…and rather than thinking about it, the Democrats just plow ahead – now complaining about how Trump rigged the Court with “stolen seats” so its illegitimate so lets focus a great deal of our campaign on this (nobody cares about food prices, you know? We have to Get Trump and everyone but those MAGAts understands this!) and promise to expand the Court if we win.

      On and on and on like that…when just a little thought would bring the whole thing crashing down.

      And we find out Tuesday if enough people in the USA can still think.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 10:13 am

        just a little thought would bring the whole thing crashing down but to a demographic that has never placed value on thought over feelz, this isn’t going to happen with the Blue Base. They can tell pollsters that three fourths of them think the country is going in the wrong direction and then, lemming-like, mass to charge off the cliff to vote for more of the same.

        Remember a couple of months ago when Kamala Harris was the biggest problem the Democrats had and everyone was scheming about how to dump her without losing the black vote? Well, the Blue Bloc doesn’t remember that, now that she has been sanctified and rebranded, and gee, it’s like none of that ever happened. Is she different now than she was four months ago? Of course not. She is still the vapid, cackling, inept, stupid, lazy DEI hire put in place to fill a quota and pander to a voting bloc, with all the charm (and evidently lifespan) of herpes, but all the people who were smart enough to recognize her as the most defective Dem candidate in history are now joyful—JOYFUL! I TELL YOU!—- about the chance to elevate her to the most prestigious and powerful position in the world.

        If the Left could not rewrite history it could not exist.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 11:35 am

        When we were younger we all learned that bit of history where the Communist parties around the world switched on a dime about Nazi Germany because Stalin signed his pact with Hitler…and then they turned on another dime when Hitler attacked Russia. We read about it and stood amazed that adult human beings could be so slavish to ideology that they’d degrade themselves like that. But now we see in America that same thing – and it is our fellow Americans doing it.

        People can be convinced of the most astonishing lies…especially lies that stroke their ego; and the Left tells its people that as long as you obey the Left Party Line you are intelligent, educated and good. Everyone wants to be intelligent, educated and good, right? So they just fall in line…if Harris wins then by 2026 everyone on the Left will be asserting that basic human decency requires jailing parents who don’t transition their kids and that illegal immigrants are what built America.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 10:29 am

        Take Trump out a legal equation and the opinion would be unanimous that no, you can’t just ignore the statute of limitations to revive an old case that not only expired but expired after being rejected for prosecution because it lacked evidence. No, you can’t just arbitrarily assign a motive to an common, ordinary, bookkeeping entry with not only no evidence to back it up but ample testimony and evidence to contradict it, just so you can change it to a felony charge. No, you can’t take a case in front of a judge who has expressed prejudice against the defendant. These are common and accepted and respected tenets of American law, all thrown out the window to take down Trump. And the Left is just fine with this. They celebrate it.

        This is what is most discouraging about this election cycle. It’s not just partisan passion for or against a candidate. It’s the decision of millions of people to discard the core tenets of our judicial system to gain political advantage. It’s the willingness—no, eagerness— to subvert our legal system to destroy a single man, because he represents political opposition. It’s the support for destroying the integrity of our electoral system by openly advocating for the retention of illegal voter registrations and counting of ballots that violate election laws.

        The Left has taken this election cycle far deeper into subversion of our core legal and moral values as a nation, in its zeal to win power at any cost, even at the cost of destroying our legal system and making our electoral system illegitimate.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 10:42 am

        With little fanfare in March 2021, President Joe Biden signed an executive order directing the agencies of the federal government to increase involvement in American elections by helping to register voters and turn out the vote.

        “If you target it neutrally, probably not the worst thing in the world. We want civic engagement in the country,” Brosnan told me.

        The implementation of Biden’s Executive Order 14019, however, has been anything but neutral.

        Biden’s critics deride the order as “Biden Bucks.”

        Biden’s order directed government agencies to submit plans to the White House on how these agencies would promote involvement in U.S. elections. These strategic plans, however, largely have been shielded from the public in the lead-up to the Nov. 5 presidential election.

        Those plans for how they are going to do that should not see the light of day, according to the Justice Department,” Brosnan told me. “And a judge agreed with them and said that [the plans] are not allowed to see the light of day.”

        Nevertheless, in a FOIA “blitz,” government agencies mistakenly shared some of their plans with The Oversight Project, as The Daily Signal has reported.

        “The Small Business Administration, for example, runs a number of in-state events, outreach events, to help small businesses. They signed a contract with Michigan,” Brosnan said. “Michigan has signed an executive order at the governor’s level to mark the Small Business Administration as an MVRA-designated entity to where the SBA has a hyperlink to where a person working with the SBA can click that link and be registered to vote.”

        MVRA stands for the Michigan Voting Rights Act.

        “The Small Business Committee in the House has been conducting an investigation,” Brosnan said, “and they found that the locations in Michigan where they’re operating are all in Democrat-leaning voting districts—metro Detroit, etc. Nothing in the Upper Peninsula or rural Michigan. So you don’t see a gun shop owner up in the [Upper Peninsula] being engaged with this, because they’re likely to vote one way.”

        They’re actually implementing this executive order and putting their thumb on the scale for the federal government to support one candidate over another and juice turnout again,” Brosnan told me.

        Additionally, Executive Order 14019 authorizes federal agencies to partner with nongovernmental organizations, or NGOs, to reach their goals. These NGOs, Brosnan said, are overwhelmingly liberal.

        “We got records from a listening session the Justice Department held in 2021, where they invited a bunch of these approved NGOs to come and talk about what they want to do,” Brosnan explained.

        These NGOs “pushed pretty radical things,” he said, such as “noncitizen voting” and “felon voting.”

        Beyond the chaos that “Biden Bucks” could inject into the presidential race, numerous other infirmities in the U.S. election system could dramatically affect the election results—especially in Arizona and Michigan.

        

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 11:08 am

        Do they care that the J6 show trial never officially charged Trump with “insurrection” but just kept referring to the word? Because the word actually has a legal definition, which was not met by any action of Trump or a single one of his supporters. Of course they don’t care. For one thing, definitions are pesky things that require thinking and intelligence to process, while feelz are just, you know, like how you FEEL about something. So much more attractive to the average low-info Dem.

        Do they care that the J6 show trial subverted the law, suborned perjury and illegally destroyed evidence after refusing to provide it because it contradicted the official narrative and was exculpatory? OF COURSE NOT. Those are just petty details, that get in the way of the endorphin rush of seeing Trump dragged through the muck by rabid partisans.

        The entire Democrat Party has been stripped of any moral authority. No, the entire Democrat Party has willingly, enthusiastically, ceded all moral authority to make room for its new identity of blind hatred and undermining of our Constitution and rule of law to scrabble for any shred of political advantage.

        The amazing 180 degree flip flop from “How can we get rid of Kamala?” to “Kamala is our hero and our new One We Have All Been Waiting For” is proof of this. It took the Dems what? 48 hours? And suddenly the old narrative was in the shredder, the new one was being tried out to see how the lemmings liked it, and the Left had a new saint and savior. In 48 hours Kamala shed her entire persona of slacker, incompetent, unlikable, lying, ineffective, quota hire, slept-her-way-to-the-top, failed-upward, anchor that would drag the party down and as if by magic (the magic of the lapdog Agenda Media) she was reborn as a joyful emblem of change (from her four years of representing what she was suddenly rejecting) and ENTHUSIASM and blah blah blah.

        And they wonder why we don’t take them seriously. Or respect them. Or trust them.

  5. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 9:22 am

    The Left’s concept of what is involved in being president is so superficial it is not funny, it is alarming.

    And that’s it right there, which IMO is the result of our dumbed down education curricula and social media. I’m convinced a lot voters will vote for Kamala simply because of her cute dance videos on TikTok, which some people post on X to show how “cool” she is. I do think a lot of Kamala voters simply don’t understand the job of the president anymore and think of it as a student body president position. These are serious times and we need a serious competent President. Kamala doesn’t cut it.

    Like Spook though, I got a good laugh out of Rocks laundry list. My favorite was that … “She would work to drive down drug and medical prices by extending Inflation Reduction Act provisions.”. Just an FYI to Rocks, that was green energy bill son and it had nothing to do with inflation. That’s just another thing they lied to you about. But they have lied to you a lot … not that you would know

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 9:45 am

      Well, all Rocks did was copy and paste some Harris platitudes, so naturally he had no idea of what they actually referred to. But then neither does the Harris campaign. They just know that their base doesn’t know, either, and will just slurp up the slop fed to them and be joyful about it.

  6. Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 10:01 am

    Well, it’s Halloween and time for people to be scared by Kamala Harris masks and ghost voting, so we should kick back and laugh a little.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 10:12 am

      And this is why MAGA is winning, because we are bringing fun and normalcy back. Trump was hilarious yesterday talking about the garbage truck at the rally. He said that when he saw how high the first step was he thought it himself “well shit” hahaha

      Love this kid from NY

      https://x.com/ianonpatriot/status/1851978238911725688?s=61

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 31, 2024 / 10:15 am

        His staff told him the vest made him look thinner, so he ditched his suit coat and wore the vest on stage. LOL!!

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 10:31 am

        And I thought it was just a multi-level troll, of both the garbage truck troll and a play on the Orange Man theme of the drooling Left.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 11:29 am

        If we want to talk “vibes” then Trump is relaxed, happy and clearly having a good time…he’s either the biggest fool we’ve ever seen, or he’s confident in the result. We find out Tuesday!

        As for me: it is what it is. I can only vote and see what happens. I believe we will win – and rather big – but I could be wrong. If I am wrong, then that will be rather sad for America but if the American people want Harris, they’ll get her…and, per Mencken, they’ll get her good and hard. I don’t want that fate for my nation…but nations do choose their fate.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona October 31, 2024 / 10:47 am

      The Kamala clip is from the link I keep citing, which has a longer video of her gloating over the power she had “with the stroke of my pen” where she actually smugly bragged about ruining the lives of people. You can see her longer video without the profanity of the guy in this link.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 11:21 am

        That is a person who should never even be close to power

  7. Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 12:27 pm

    My goodness, you are a pissy little thing, aren’t you? When you post what you seem to think is an insulting comment, that I “beg” you for things, the image of pursed-lip squinty-eyed Church Lady comes to mind.

    A pissy little thing? You never resort to insults, do you? My comment that you cited accurately reflects your repeated attempts to get me to explain to you things that you should already know as an educated voter. Or that you could easily discover for yourself.

    Anyway, as I said before, it was never going to matter what reasons anyone gives you for voting for Harris. You just claim they are platitudes, or it is all just absorbed talking points, as Mark wrote.

    Spook wrote: I’m reminded of something my college freshman history professor said that had a lasting effect on me. He said the best measure of what a person is made of is from their own words, not what someone else has written or said about them. This most certainly holds true with Donald Trump, especially in this election cycle.

    I would say the best measure of what a person is made of is what they do, not what they say.

    Mark wrote: We read about it and stood amazed that adult human beings could be so slavish to ideology that they’d degrade themselves like that. But now we see in America that same thing – and it is our fellow Americans doing it.

    Exactly right. We are seeing Americans do the same thing that has happened in other countries that elected fascists. On the one hand, it is shocking the extent to which many Americans have a slavish devotion to a man devote of any principles and who clearly has fascistic tendencies. So many Americans are willing to go along with lies, such as that the 2020 election was stolen. Worse are the people in power, the ones who know better, who go along with him because they are obviously afraid of something–losing their own election, their power, whatever. It is sad to see men of supposed principles–which is certainly how Spook views himself–go along with it. Amazona talks about manly qualities. None of these men exhibit any manly qualities. That’s why Trump’s nickname of “Little Marco” rings true, because we see for ourselves that he and others like him are truly small men.

    On the other hand, it actually isn’t shocking that so many Americans would support a person such as Trump because we’ve seen it happen before. You brought up Nazi Germany. The German citizenry went along with Hitler, to the utter destruction of their country, as well as Europe, and the deaths of tens of millions of people.

    Anyway, thank for you not deleting my comments and responding to them. I’d love to see each of you present a list of reasons for voting for Trump. Not holding my breath, though.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 12:50 pm

      It’s impossible to have any kind of conversation with stupid people, and your list of reasons to vote for Kamala exposes a level of ignorance with you that is impossible to overcome. If Trump was a ‘fascist” as you proclaim, he had the perfect opportunity to seize control of the country in 2020 under the cover of Covid. He could have suspended elections and declared martial law but neither of that happened. When Democrats took charge, ie; Dr. Fauci, they proceeded to close churches, close schools, close small businesses, and then fire people for not taking a mandatory experimental vaccine. They then proceeded to lie about their spending bills, the Inflation Reduction Act being the biggest lie, but you believed them. That was a climate change bill that they couldn’t have passed unless they lied about it. They then lied about the border for 4 years, lied about Jan 6, lied about climate change, lied about white supremacy, lied about Roe v Wade, in fact everything Democrats stand for is divisive and a lie … and that’s why Trump resonates with so many people.

      The bottom line is Americans expect to live in a country governed much better than Democrats are capable of governing. You’re just not good enough and that’s why you are angry people. You are propagandized failures.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 31, 2024 / 12:58 pm

      Exactly right. We are seeing Americans do the same thing that has happened in other countries that elected fascists. On the one hand, it is shocking the extent to which many Americans have a slavish devotion to a man devote of any principles and who clearly has fascistic tendencies.

      To paraphrase the famous line from The Princess Bride, I don’t think the word (Fascism) means what you think it means.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 9:59 pm

        To paraphrase the famous line from The Princess Bride, I don’t think the word (Fascism) means what you think it means.

        Of course it doesn’t. But if the Left had to stick to the actual, technical, definitions of terms they would be mute. Just look at how dependent they are on lying about the definition of “insurrection”. They count on laziness, knowing that most people will never look up the legal meaning of the word, and that once it is out there and used often enough it will be picked up unquestioningly by otherwise reputable media.

        So, regarding their passion for the word “fascist”—-it reflects ignorance, of course, both of history and of actual political structures, and it leads to the linking of Trump to Hitler.

        When you have people as dedicated to a political model as, for example, Rock/Cow is, obsessed with incessant blogging attacking the Invented Other that is in opposition to the political model he supports and enables by such attacks, you also realize that when it comes to understanding the actual STRUCTURE of his preferred system he is totally ignorant. And indifferent.

        So if you are obsessed by Leftism without knowing what it is, it is easy to be obsessed with “fascism” without knowing what IT is, either. What I shock it would be to actually open ones’ brain to real ideas and knowledge and learn that fascism IS Leftism. The internal structures and ideology are so nearly exactly the same, any differences are minor and cosmetic.

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 31, 2024 / 1:35 pm

      I’d love to see each of you present a list of reasons for voting for Trump

      My main reason for voting for Trump is that I like pretty much everything he did during his first term. It’s an awfully long list. JDGE1 posted it a while back, and it’s several pages long. I didn’t archive it, or I’d re-post it.

      I got this in an email a while back, and it’s a great counter-argument for those who really don’t like Trump.

      Someone recently asked me why I like Trump. My answer was that I don’t really have to like Trump. 

      This election is not about choosing the most likeable person.

      We are voting between two vastly different ideologies. We are voting for the country we want to leave our children and grandchildren.

      Trump represents that future and has proven that he can deliver. He is a patriot to the core and even served his country for 4 years without pay.

      That moment when someone says,
      “I can’t believe you’re voting for Trump”. I simply reply, “I’m NOT voting for Trump.”

      I’m voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I’m voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored.

      I’m voting for secure borders and LEGAL immigration. I am voting for election integrity to include mandatory voter ID.  (Why would anyone vote against this?)

      I’m voting for the Second Amendment and my right to defend my life and my family.

      I’m voting for the police to be respected once again.

      I am voting for law & order and an end to allowing protesters to trespass and burn our cities, destroying innocent small business. (Tim Walz)

      I am voting for personal responsibility and the end of the revolving door where criminals are being put back on the street. (Kamala Harris)

      I’m voting for the next Supreme Court Justice(s) to protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

      I’m voting for a return of our troops from foreign countries and the end to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts.

      I’m voting for the Electoral College and for the Republic in which we live.

      I’m voting for the continued appointment of Federal Judges who respect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

      I’m voting for keeping our jobs to remain in America and not be outsourced all over the world – to China, Mexico and other foreign countries.

      I am voting for doing away with all of the freebies given to all of the illegals and not looking after the needs of the American citizens and homeless veterans.

      I’m voting for the military & the veterans who fought for this country

      I’m voting to keep men out of women’s sports.

      I’m voting for peace progress in the Middle East.

      I’m voting to fight against human/child trafficking.

      I’m voting for Freedom of Religion.

      I am voting for the return of teaching math, history, and science instead of the indoctrination of our children.

      I’m not just voting for one person.
      I’m voting for the future of my Country.

      I’m voting for my children and my grandchildren to ensure their freedoms

      America is the greatest country in the world, hense why everyone wants to immigrate here. So why do you want to change it?

      Why do politicians want to enact policies that have failed in other countries throughout history? 

      I’m not voting for Trump.
      I’m voting for America.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 3:12 pm

        That’s a nice list (it would have been more impressive if you had been able to come up with your own list), but honestly, if I had presented a list like that, copying and pasting someone else’s words, full of platitudes, you all wouldn’t have accepted it. “I’m not just voting for one person. I’m voting for the future of my Country” is just a platitude that’s pretty meaningless. We probably all think we’re voting for the future of our country, Harris voters included.

        And I will just say that this list isn’t even an accurate reflection of what you would be voting for or against. For instance:

        I’m voting for the First Amendment and freedom of speech. I’m voting for the right to speak my opinion and not be censored.

        You do realize that Trump has repeatedly threatened to put reporters in jail and shut down broadcast networks by revoking their licenses merely because they said things he doesn’t like.

        I think what you really mean is that Trump would allow you to speak freely while silencing people you don’t like, and you’re fine with that.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 12:28 am

        That’s a nice list (it would have been more impressive if you had been able to come up with your own list), but honestly, if I had presented a list like that, copying and pasting someone else’s words, full of platitudes, you all wouldn’t have accepted it.

        This from someone who posted a long copied-and-pasted propaganda screed of lies, distortions, and even more blatant lies, claims of quotations that never happened, and wild assertions of thoughts and deeds that also never happened.

        And Spook clearly said that he was quoting someone else, while you lied and claimed you were just posting things that “came to mind”.

        You’re so many levels below shameless I’m thinking there is no bottom to you. It’s just lies and spite and malice all the way down.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 12:29 am

        I think what you really mean is that Trump would allow you to speak freely while silencing people you don’t like, and you’re fine with that.

        So you “think” this, do you? Those voices in your head are doing you no favors, encouraging you to share the goofball crap they tell you.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 12:35 am

        “You do realize that Trump has repeatedly threatened to put reporters in jail and shut down broadcast networks by revoking their licenses merely because they said things he doesn’t like.”

        You do realize this is completely false, don’t you?

        False, as in just another in your amazingly long recent spate of lies.

        When a media outlet has a government license because it is a form of journalism, and then rejects every known definition of “journalism” and is, instead, a blatantly obvious arm of a political party, spreading propaganda and lies and undermining the government when its administration is of the opposition party, it should no longer be entitled to a government license and should pay its own way.

        It has nothing to do with merely saying “things he doesn’t like”—-it’s about lying to the American public under the guise of honest journalism, and it’s about rigging elections by doing so.

        If you’re going to make wild and baseless claims like this you need to cite your sources and provide links.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 4:12 pm

        Why do people like you sound like little kids screaming from their room that dad is mean and unfair??

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 9:48 pm

      You have never explained why your have this conviction that I am the one who deletes your posts. Oh, I understand that your ego can’t handle the thought that no one can stand them, and that only one uber-powerful woman stands between you and blog fame, but…..no. Cling to that, if you must, but….no.

      My comment that you cited accurately reflects your repeated attempts to get me to explain to you things that you should already know as an educated voter. No, the purpose of my questioning is to find out what YOU think. And, as I fully expected, you bailed. You copied and pasted other peoples’ words, probably from the Harris website, and proudly presented them as if they serve to prove that you, yourself, have a true deep understanding of and appreciation of and respect for actual POLICIES proposed by Kamala Harris, to explain and defend your support for her. (And then you sneer, in an impotent effort to insult me, that if I were an “educated voter” I would already know these things.)

      The thing is, as an educated voter I know that she has presented CONCEPTS, not policies, for the most part. And the actual policies she has articulated have been impossible and ridiculous, like “giving” large sums of money to first time home buyers. That is profoundly stupid on so many levels, from the obvious one that this would just raise the cost of houses by that much to the equally obvious that this would affect those discriminated against by such a cockamamie idea, or people who are NOT first time home buyers.

      You may have read her shallow concepts and been dazzled by them, but I doubt that. You never argue policy or actual POLITICS. All you ever argue is your personal animosity and hostility toward an Invented Other you seem to feel compelled to try to attack in every way at any opportunity. It’s all Identity, all the time, which is what I tried, and succeeded, to illustrate by challenging you to actually defend a POLITICAL position.

      And you did what you do. You dodged, you ducked, and you tried to insult.

      Then you go off into one of your highly personalized (as in reflecting your own basis for supporting candidates) screed on how, according to you, people who support Trump for the presidency are just “slavishly devoted” to him as a person.

      It is absolutely proved that enough votes were illegitimate, for various reasons, in the 2020 election to change the outcome. We have detailed these, we have explained them, we have linked to proofs, including the statements from Biden voters that if the election had not been rigged to hide crucial information about his corrupt and illegal activities as vice president they would not have voted for him. You ignore them and call them lies. Fine. It’s not as if you have ever posted a single thing here to give any opinion of yours any credibility.

      And then, of course, the plunge to the bottom—HitlerHitlerHitlerHitlerHitler. You people are so predicatable.

  8. Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 3:04 pm

    To paraphrase the famous line from The Princess Bride, I don’t think the word (Fascism) means what you think it means.

    Sure. I kind of doubt you do, either. The fact that Trump calls Harris a “Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist” tells me he also has no idea what he’s talking about, and you all believe his every word. And then when I look at this blog, one of Mark’s favorite tags is “liberal fascism” (it’s right over there in the box on the right), which he uses when talking about Harris and Biden. On this blog Amazona has described our current government as “closer to fascism than anything,” but in this thread she talks about Harris’s “history of radical Marxism” and “many ties to the Communist Party in China.” You all seem to use these terms interchangeably.

    But to the point that Trump exhibits fascist tendencies, I would cite these examples:

    1. Trump uses language directly lifted from actual fascists. For instance, referring to Harris as “Comrade Kamala” or describing her as “Marxist, communist, fascist, socialist.” These are baseless claims pretty much identical to the way past fascists denigrated their enemies. You may recall that Hitler called his political opponents in Germany “Marxists” and imprisoned them in concentration camps and ultimately murdered them. There’s a monument in front of the Reichstag in Berlin that commemorates those members of the German parliament who were murdered.

    2. Trump says he will launch “the largest deportation operation in the history of our country.” His views on immigrants are very similar to what Hitler described in Mein Kampf.

    3. Trump’s nationalist views, which also very clearly have a racial comment, also echo Hitler’s.

    4. Trump says “I am your voice. I alone can fix it. I will restore law and order.” Right out of the fascist playbook.

    5. Trump demands loyalty to himself instead of loyalty to the Constitution. Right out of the fascist playbook.

    6. Trump refers to his political opponents as “vermin,” using the exact terminology that Hitler used (only translated from German to English). He says “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.” Right out of the fascist playbook.

    7. Trump whips up resentment toward “out” members of society, and convinces people that they are the victims of those “out” members of society. Right out of the fascist playbook.

    8. Trump has expressed his wish to lead as a dictator without constraints (maybe you remember checks and balances from civics class), and also admires current dictators for their ability to rule without constraints.

    9. Trump wants to use the military on Americans that express opposition toward him. Right out of the fascist playbook.

    10. Trump wants “the kind of generals that Hitler had,” meaning he thinks he’s smarter than the real generals (as Hitler thought he was) and he just wants yes-men to carry out his wishes. We see how that worked out for the Third Reich.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 3:58 pm

      It’s alarming how gullible you are. People like you will have us WWIII before we know it because of your weakness and stupidity. And that’s just one more reason I am voting for Trump. Peace and prosperity.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 4:10 pm

      You’re obviously a very emotional person, to a fault, and those are the type of people who will vote for Kamala. Rational, clear thinking adults are all voting for Trump

    • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook October 31, 2024 / 4:41 pm

      At 12:27 you wrote:

      I would say the best measure of what a person is made of is what they do, not what they say.

      Then you post a long screed about all the things Trump has supposedly “said.” Sorry, you can’t have it both ways.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 5:02 pm

        To which I would say Donald Trump is campaigning for the office of the presidency. One of the main thing candidates do is tell us what they intend to do if elected. He is not president yet, and therefore can’t act on all the things he is telling us he will do. But he is telling us.

        Not only that, he is lying, which is also doing something. For instance, Harris gave a press conference just recently in which she stated, correctly, that Trump wants to end the ACA. He responds today by claiming, “I never mentioned doing that, never even thought about such a thing.” And yet his own 2016 website stated “On day one of the Trump Administration, we will ask Congress to immediately deliver a full repeal of Obamacare.” And as you probably recall, Congress attempted to do exactly that while Trump was president. In fact, there were many attempts, all of which Trump supported.

        Anyway, insofar as measuring a person by what they do vs. what they say, if someone tells you they don’t beat their wife, then you find out they do beat their wife, which are you going to measure the person by? That’s the point. I’m sure you understood it.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 1:00 am

        She wants to abolish private health insurance.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 5:21 pm

        He WAS President. Sorry rocks, your argument is baseless, childish, and boring. And entirely propaganda media talking points.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 5:24 pm

        And we would have repealed Obamacare if it wasn’t for John McCain. Obamacare is a regulatory mess, ineffective and over expensive and needs to be completely reformed

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 12:23 am

        As completely excising the cancer that is Obamacare, all we can do is reform it, try to deal with its most egregious failures, and above all make sure that no horrible concept like Kamala’s wish to completely abolish private health insurance can ever see the light of day.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 5:42 pm

        And we would have repealed Obamacare if it wasn’t for John McCain.

        Correct. Which is why Trump is lying today when he says “I never mentioned doing that, never even thought about such a thing.”

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 7:18 pm

        I’ve never heard Trump say that and since you’re repeating it, I guarantee it’s false, or out of context. That’s the only way people like you quote him. I do know that Trump helped save Obamacare from collapsing onto itself, which is what Medicaid is about to do.

        Face it, people like you have lied SOOOO many times, you have zero credibility.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 5:23 pm

      By “out” members of society is meant “illegal immigrants who were transported here with a taxpayer NGO money in direct violation of both the letter and spirit of our immigration laws”. Just for one example. It does very much go on and on like that – semantics masking reality. You know, a Big Lie, as it was once called and repeated so often that for the Left it has now become Truth.

      MAGA has no bigotry. We want peace, freedom and prosperity for all. We welcome all to the table and want a fair shake for everyone.

      But you can’t just willy nilly import tens of millions. It is against the law. It is horrific and cruel – so many of these poor foreigners are being abused every day. It must stop. We’re the good guys – we’re trying to help everyone…not hide human trafficking behind things like “Dreamers”.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 5:53 pm

        By “out” members of society is meant “illegal immigrants who were transported here with a taxpayer NGO money in direct violation of both the letter and spirit of our immigration laws”.

        No. By “out” members I mean people who are not Christians (more to the point, a certain type of Christian), LGBTQ people, legal immigrants of color, native-born Americans of color, and of course, as you stated, illegal immigrants–but only illegal immigrants of color. (MAGA-types have no problem with white Europeans being here illegally, such as Elon Musk when he violated the law while here on a student visa.)

        And of course, Trump extends this to anyone who opposes him politically regardless of how they got here or their ethnicity. They are all also “out” members insofar as he’s concerned. This is all very obvious. Do you even listen to what he and the people he surrounds himself with say?

        Look, we see who the thought leaders of MAGA are. We see what they say, what they represent, and who they associate with. It isn’t a secret.

        It’s all right out of the fascist playbook. You, as a student of history, know this.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 10:03 pm

        “By “out” members I mean people who are not Christians (more to the point, a certain type of Christian), LGBTQ people, legal immigrants of color, native-born Americans of color, and of course, as you stated, illegal immigrants–but only illegal immigrants of color.”

        That, though, is just the Big Lie you have come to believe – either because you lack your own knowledge or because you’re willing to participate in it as it assures your social position.

        A bunch of Muslims went up on stage in Michigan to endorse Trump at his last rally there. They are my fellow Americans. As Yankee Doodle Dandy as George Washington. Ric Grenell is as gay as the day is long: just another patriot to me. Clarence Thomas: a hero for the ages. Tulsi Gabbard: a rock solid patriot even though I disagree with a considerable amount of her views. I don’t judge people based on things like their religious creed, sexual orientation, skin color or sex. If you’re in favor of freedom and peace, I count you as on my side…any differences we’ll argue out calmly and come to a compromise decision.

        Heck, I don’t even hate you – I don’t hate anyone.

        But I do want you to leave me the heck alone. Do not insist I use ridiculous language. Do not insist I assent to things I know are untrue. Do not hound me out of professional or social life because I utter opinions you disagree with.

        Also, best not to call me garbage. I take insults very well. My God commands me to turn the other cheek and I do try to do that.

        But I am a human being.

        Keep calling me a racist, sexist, homophobic Nazi traitor garbage…and I will eventually get very, very angry…and there are vast numbers of people who haven’t my patience.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 12:21 am

        RIGHT OUT OF THE FASCIST PLAYBOOK !!!!!!!

        Is this the new “racist”?

        You have degenerated into blatant, shameless, lying. Trump has never made any comment indicating that he sees illegal immigrants based on their skin color or ethnicity. Ever. When you claim he objects to “only illegal immigrants of color” you are, quite simply, lying. This is an even more evil lie than the false assertion that he considers “native-born Americans of color” as “out” and deserving of scorn or whatever wackadoo punishment you think he would have in mind. There is literally not a single element of racial discrimination in Trump’s history, or against any religion or sexual orientation. You are simply making this up, just listening to the toxic and vile voices in your head.

        And BTW confirming the wisdom of repeatedly trying to ban you from the blog, though like other VERMIN you do find ways to slink back in, using fake names. I use that word because I have been dealing with vermin—-in this case, rodent vermin—with the exact same M.O of crawling though any opening to spread filth.

        Although after seeing you as merely distasteful and creepy, I have to admit that this thread of posts from you is showing a distinct mental illness vibe, as your comments are spinning wildly out of the gravitational pull of reality.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 10:16 pm

        That, though, is just the Big Lie you have come to believe – either because you lack your own knowledge or because you’re willing to participate in it as it assures your social position.

        That’s not it. For example, during this election cycle Trump said of his political opponents, who happen to be Americans, “We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.”

        That is straight out of Nazi Germany, right down to the term “vermin,” and you know it. So no, you can’t hide behind pretending it’s all a “big lie.”

        Anyway, I appreciate the conversation and you not deleting everything.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan October 31, 2024 / 10:35 pm

        Well, you guys say you want to eradicate the fascists…so I don’t see what you’re upset about when we add to that commies…who are just as bad.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 12:09 am

        live like vermin” is pretty clear. It means to live hidden, in nests or cells, not openly in society. It not the same thing as saying they ARE “vermin”. It’s this kind of deception—lying—in distorting what is said that makes people like you so easily dismissed.

        Wanting to root out elements that are antithetical to the structure and values of our American government and heritage is in no way “straight out of Nazi Germany”. Communists, Marxists, fascists, all represent the opposite forms of governance codified in our Constitution. Any president who has taken an oath of office to protect and defend the United States and uphold its Constitution is by definition committed to stopping attacks on the country and our rule of law.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows October 31, 2024 / 10:46 pm

        Well, you guys say you want to eradicate the fascists…so I don’t see what you’re upset about when we add to that commies…who are just as bad.

        I certainly agree that both extremes are bad, if that’s what you mean, and that in practice they both wind up in a similar place, which is totalitarian, corrupt regimes.

        As far as eradicating the fascists, don’t think I ever said that. But I don’t want one occupying the White House, that’s for sure. And I would prefer that extreme ideologies in the United States get moderated instead of getting ever more extreme. That would be better for us all. Again, as a student of history, you know how extremism can take hold of a society and destroy it.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan November 1, 2024 / 12:06 am

        But we’re not fascists. Not even close. Do you even know what fascism stood for? Or do you just think its guys with military uniforms being mean? For crying out loud: here’s a bit from the 1919 fascist manifesto:

        A strong extraordinary tax on capital of a progressive nature, having the form of true PARTIAL EXPROPRIATION of all wealth. The seizure of all property of religious congregations and the abolition of all diocesan benefices, which constitute a huge liability for the nation and a privilege of the few.

        Does that sound remotely like what we’re after? It doesn’t even talk about breaking up the great concentrations of wealth – it says it wants to expropriate all wealth…in other words, the State gets control of all capital so that it can use it for the (alleged) benefit of the people. They wanted to tax the Church. Which political party in the USA in 2024 is closer to that: Democrat or Republican?

        But do you even know this? Have you ever looked into fascism? I reject fascism because I know what it is – same reason I reject Nazism and Socialism/Communism. While all three have distinct differences, they are united in the following:

        1. Opposition to religion. All three might make tactical compromises with religion but their end goal is the end of all religion.

        2. Opposition to the family. All three feel that the family is a baleful organization which hinders the true development of humanity.

        3. Opposition to private property. All three to one degree or another hold that all property – all wealth – is held at the sufferance of the State and no claims of individual or family property rights is superior to the claim of the State.

        4. Opposition to free expression. None of them will allow for the free exchange of ideas. All impose overtly or implicitly a system of prior restraint on the propagation of ideas.

        I despise all of that. I am a believer in God. I believe that the free family is the primary unit of society and that society cannot survive without the family. Property – real property, owned by individuals and families sufficient to provide a dignified life (not a bazillionaire with 14 houses) is the foundation of sane economic life. The more widely property is held the more free and prosperous a people are. If I can’t say what I want, then no matter what else, I am not free – there is no such thing as “hate speech”. There is just speech. Punish me for lying: fine. But do not stop me from saying what I want…if you or anyone may in any way prevent me from expressing an idea, then I am a slave.

        If you can tease out of my views anything that is fascist, Nazi or Communist, then you let me know. But there is none. I am not those things. I despise and oppose those things.

        Yet your side calls me a fascist because I don’t think dirty books should be in middle school libraries.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 10:58 pm

        Well, Mark, you can cite facts and quote the actual founders and fathers of various Leftist sects and then you can lay out the actual actions and histories of failures of these systems and none if it will matter in the slightest to the True Believers.

        The thing is, they are not True Believers in the old sense of the term. It used to mean people who ardently knew and believed in and supported the ideologies of their movements. As profoundly wrong these people were, and as much evil as their passions created, at least they had the courage of their convictions.

        Today’s True Believers are such weak, thin, pathetic wannabes, because their “belief systems” are not only not based on political ideology, they are ignorant of the political ideology they enable and support in their dedicated hatred of an Invented Other that does not exist but which dominated their lives. They don’t have the “courage of their convictions” because it takes no courage to suck up hate-driven propaganda and then regurgitate it, and the “convictions” are nothing but “other side bad”—without any real idea of what the Other Side even IS.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan November 3, 2024 / 10:01 am

        Yep; just mindless “if I don’t like it, it must be bad” temper tantrums

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 11:03 pm

        I don’t want one (fascist) occupying the White House, that’s for sure. Yet you would have voted Joe Biden in for another term, in spite of his obedient execution of basic fascist ideology in ignoring elected representation to simply unilaterally issue edicts which compelled people to inject experimental drugs even against their wills and religious beliefs, to be able to work or travel freely, while colluding with industry to both create these drugs and benefit by the government interference which protected them from legal liability for damages due to the drugs, and using government money to pay for them. I don’t think even Mussolini every pulled off a fascist hat trick like that.

        I saw a phrase repeated a few times recently. Now how did that go? Oh, yeah—-RIGHT OUT OF THE FASCIST PLAYBOOK

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows November 1, 2024 / 12:32 am

        But we’re not fascists. Not even close.

        Did I say you were? I don’t think so. I did note, however, that you have a running tag on your posts titled “liberal fascism,” which tells me that you think liberals are fascists.

        You are giving me a definition of fascism from 1919! That’s well before fascist leaders like Hitler and Mussolini came into power. Rather than rely on a paper definition from 1919, how about evaluating what fascist leaders actually did? Your definition leaves out a lot in terms of what fascist leaders actually did, like killing millions of people who were not considered worthy of living by those fascist leaders.

        I’d say the wikipedia definition of fascism is considerably more accurate, which starts with the following paragraph and also offers an evolution of fascism from its roots to the present:

        Fascism is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived good of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy. Opposed to anarchism, democracy, pluralism, egalitarianism, liberalism, socialism, and Marxism, fascism is placed on the far right-wing within the traditional left–right spectrum.

        There are numerous citations in that paragraph on wikipedia if you care to investigate further.

        When I began addressing this topic earlier in this comment thread, I said Trump has fascistic tendencies. I didn’t even call him a fascist, nor did I call you one. I also gave you a list of examples that come to mind of Trump’s fascistic tendencies, all of which also applied to the best-known fascist leaders of the past. Maybe you need to brush up on your Hitler/Nazi Germany history. I read Ian Kershaw’s Hitler biography not too long ago. That would be a good place to start.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan November 1, 2024 / 12:51 am

        You give me the Wikipedia definition as if that is relevant? That is written by Commies who want you to think there’s a dime’s difference between Communism and Fascism. Sorry, won’t fly. The fascists are who they were – and they were, are and always will be of the Left.

        In the late 19th century came a crisis in social confidence as the stresses produced by the Industrial Revolution failed to provide a solution to problems…other than making money, it didn’t seem to offer a way out. Many thinkers pondered this and they produced various roadmaps which disposed of the whole system and substituted something else…these lines of thoughts eventually crystalized out into communism, fascism and Nazism. But all of them absolutely rejected the past – not just the dominate Capitalist economic model, but the very foundations of Western civilization. I am a defender of that civilization and thus I cannot be any of the three…all three, given power, would kill me.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 11:07 pm

        I don’t want one occupying the White House, that’s for sure.

        No, they did not “come to mind”. Don’t even try to pretend that you just sat down and typed the thoughts that “came to mind” about Donald Trump, not when your silly screed is so blatantly copied and pasted from radical Leftist propaganda. It was such a dog’s dinner of lies, distortions, more lies, bizarre efforts to link unrelated language to imply nefarious intent and generally stereotypical sewage designed to impress only a certain level and type of mentality, one looking for justifications for what is really just wildly irrational personal animosity.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 11:33 pm

        Once an “expert” leads off by explaining that fascism is a far right system he has found a way to admit abject ignorance of even the most basic elements of any political ideology without using those exact words.

        Leftist ideology is one of consolidation of power in the hands of elites, who rule from a massively powerful Central Authority which allows little of any agency to the citizens. It is State-centered, State-dependent, and State-controlled.

        The politically illiterate depend on labels, not understanding that any label’s legitimacy depends on who is applying it and how well it complies with the ideology it claims to represent. The complaint that you can’t apply the political and societal and cultural changes of the 19th century to the political ideologies that sprung from them a few years later is not only silly, it is ignorant. It’s as of RockCows actually thinks that the Leftist movements of the late 1920s just spontaneously combusted, unrelated to and unaffected by and uninfluenced by changing ideas in the populace over the prior few decades.

        But then the politically illiterate would find that easy to believe, because the politically illiterate are wholly Identity driven, wholly dependent on labels and on being told what to “think” by people who assemble words, call them “ideas” and feed them to the uncritical minds too lazy to know or care that they are pure caca.

        That embarrassing list he provided, helpfully numbered and each identified by his newly beloved mantra RIGHT OUT OF THE FASCIST PLAYBOOK, is such a great example of that. The source of his carefully copied and pasted screed did do a good job of linking the unlinkable and mixing this toxic brew with out-an-out lies, but even so it was so blatantly BS that its market would be self-limiting, much as the market for the Protocols of Zion is (and I think there are some distinct similarities in tone and credibility and agenda).

        As hard as RockCows has tried to avoid anything like a declarative statement about what he truly believes, relying instead on pissy snarls and petty personal attacks and evasiveness to the point of claiming that my pointing out that he only presented vague concepts of Harris instead of actual detailed policies just means I’m not an “educated voter” instead of explaining them, he did finally give us a vivid portrait of himself in posting those quoted claims about Trump.

        Only a very specific kind of person with a very specific kind of mind could present those statements as explaining/justifying his position regarding Donald Trump. I don’t think he realized what a clear picture he painted of himself, his character, his intellect, or his commitment to honesty.

      • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows November 1, 2024 / 1:16 am

        I gave you the wikipedia definition because it is actually better than your 1919 definition. As the wikipedia page shows, fascism evolved. If you don’t like wikipedia, there are many other sources.

        I am a defender of that civilization and thus I cannot be any of the three…all three, given power, would kill me.

        Then it is hard to understand your support for Donald Trump. Just tonight he said of Liz Cheney, “Let’s put her with a rifle standing there with nine barrels shooting at her. Let’s she how she feels about it. You know, when the guns are trained on her face.” Straight out of the fascist playbook.

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan November 1, 2024 / 10:57 am

        Oh, just f all the way off with that – you want it to be “if I don’t like it, its fascism”. Sorry, not playing that game. Fascism is what it is and I ain’t it. Neither is Trump. Neither is MAGA.

        But the pronoun enforcers? Very fascist…as are many aspects of the modern Left.

      • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 2, 2024 / 11:12 pm

        Do you know where wikipedia entries originate? That is, who writes them?

        And what in the world has convinced you that mindless parroting of a silly slogan is somehow compelling? STRAIGHT OUT OF THE FASCIST PLAYBOOK. Wow, that really made an impression on you didn’t it?

        Fortunately, most people—that is, people saner than you, which is a majority—-understands that what Trump said was a version of “a Liberal is someone who hasn’t been mugged”. He did not threaten Liz, no matter how hard you overheated hyperventilating hysterics try to spin it. He made the point that if her life was at stake she would shoot to defend herself.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 3, 2024 / 12:59 am

      This is one of the most unhinged, ranting examples of wild-eyed disconnect not just from reality but from any interest in honesty or decency I have seen from you—and that’s saying a lot. And repeatedly babbling that nonsensical mantra RIGHT OUT OF THE FASCIST PLAYBOOK doesn’t lend credibility to your screed, it just points out that it is copied and pasted from some propaganda outlet.

      Trump never acted like a fascist, so you have to pretend that he wants to be and would be if he had another chance, so you have to depend on what he says. Or, rather, on what you claim he says, and/or and how you then consult your crystal balls to find out what he “really meant” when he said something.

      Well, he was president for four years.

      He never tried to keep any of his opponents off a ballot
      He never tried to put any of his opponents in jail—even after the head of the FBI gave the country a detailed list of crimes committed by one of them, and proof came out about frauds on the court, illegal surveillance of American citizens and perjury by others.
      He never weaponized any federal agency against any political opponent.
      He never censored speech or tried to silence opposition
      He never tried to rig an election.
      He never smeared, insulted or slandered fellow Americans by calling them “deplorable” or “garbage” or “domestic terrorists”
      He never identified members of the most popular religion in the United States as “domestic terrorists”
      He never targeted political opponents for extreme surveillance while traveling
      He never had a political opponent publicly rousted out of bed at dawn by a SWAT team, after making sure that television cameras would be there to record it.
      He never set up an armed arrest of someone in a big airport for a nonviolent process crime
      He never issued edicts from the Oval Office forcing people to inject experimental drugs to be able to continue working or to travel freely
      He never colluded with Big Pharma to have the federal government provide legal cover to protect them from liability for damages from their experimental drugs.
      He never supported sexualization of young children by putting pornography in school libraries.
      He never supported maiming children, either surgically or chemically, because of immature gender confusion or questions, or pressures from advocates
      He got legal advice on every action taken by his Executive Branch to ensure that it was within the restraints and powers of the Constitution
      He repeatedly chided Congress for allowing political appointees running federal agencies to engage in de facto legislation, telling Congress to “do your damned jobs”
      He never left Americans behind in a war-torn nation, along with arming its terrorists with billions of dollars of American arms and equipment
      He never sent billions of dollars to American enemies to enable them to develop weapons to use against us
      He did over see tax cuts that benefitted Americans
      He did oversee reduction in economy-killing regulations, spurring economic growth
      He did promote policies that made us not only energy independent for the first time but made it possible for us to supply friendly nations with oil and gas, cutting into profits for nations like Russia
      He oversaw and helped negotiate bilateral agreements on Arab–Israeli normalization signed between Israel and the United Arab Emirates and between Israel and Bahrain, known as the Abraham Accords.

      And much more. And I didn’t look up, copy or paste the words of others. These are just things I know and remember, being an educated voter and all

      Name an example of a fascist action taken by Trump–remembering that “fascism” is a State-centered, State-controlled Central Authority based form of government, with power consolidated in the federal government and not distributed among the states. It is not mean tweets.

  9. Cluster's avatar Cluster October 31, 2024 / 4:26 pm

    I don’t know how old Rocks is, but I do know how old Casper is and he should be ashamed as a Democrat. Back in the 1980’s and 1990’s, Democrats (including myself as a Clinton voter) were anti war, anti big government, anti big pharma, anti big food and GMO’s, and pro free speech. In 20 years, the Democrats have done a 180 on all those positions yet Casper still supports them. I guess he didn’t;t really believe in those things but I sure as hell still do … hence my vote for MAGA

  10. Cluster's avatar Cluster November 1, 2024 / 8:56 am

    Rocks is worried of trump’s language implicating Liz Cheney and fire arms and considering that as fascist, all the while ignoring the fact that actual fascists literally did take a shot and hit Trump.

    Rocks is the poster child for Democrat propaganda and ignorance, and he is exactly what is wrong with this country and after we win, he either needs to STFU and get the fuck beat out of him

    • Rocks Cows's avatar Rocks Cows November 1, 2024 / 11:29 am

      he either needs to STFU and get the fuck beat out of him

      How very fascist of you. And here Mark was trying to convince me you had no fascistic inclinations whatsoever.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster November 1, 2024 / 12:02 pm

        It’s not fascism sweetie. It’s simply an intolerance of the lies, stupidity, and intolerance of socialists. We have beaten your ass many times throughout history and we will do it again. Kind of like being back in grade school where I am sure you lost many fights.

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster November 1, 2024 / 12:03 pm

        Fascism is when you try and assassinate your political opponent. That’s what democrats did

      • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan November 1, 2024 / 3:23 pm

        Someone challenging another person to fisticuffs isn’t fascism. Might not be wise, but as Johnson pointed out: everyone has a right to their opinion. And everyone else has a right to knock you down for your opinion. Martyrdom: that is the test.

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan November 1, 2024 / 10:55 am

      Yep…but the efforts in PA are really kinda odd…almost as if Shapiro is helping our cause there … perhaps as 2028 prep.

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