Open Thread

I stayed up to watch the vote on the Rule for the OBBB…and it was all just so very irritating. I’m sick of these GOPers who play this game of chicken.

I get that everyone wants to maximize their political gain out of these things…but the place to do that is while the bill is being crafted, not when its up for final passage. It is like we’ve raised up a generation of Congresscritters who don’t know how to do it…and then as I mentally ranted and raved about it, I understood: they really don’t know how to do it. Do you realize how long its been since real politics took place in the Capitol? It isn’t a political field…its a stage. Its where you go to have an impressive background to state your talking points. Politics is done in staff offices…and for staffers, a bit of backstabbing at the crucial moment is probably what they’re told to do…and likely by Democrats (there is a poll of staffers for DC…and I’ll bet most of them are Democrats).

I don’t think these guys know how to horse trade and I’ve got the horrified feeling that they can’t horse trade because horse trading requires that you keep your word. In the old days of politics, a person’s word was their bond. You only rarely made a solid promise to do something but when you did, you kept your word. You had to. If you got a reputation for ratting out, you’d be finished. Nobody would trust you – the Party bosses would find a primary challenger because nobody likes a liar. Or, at least, nobody used to. Olden days valued honesty. Modern times seem to value the brazen lie – and the more brazen it is, the more it is admired. One of the GOPers causing the hold up last night just last year was stating that border security was the most important issue of our times…and there she was last night, objecting because the bill didn’t cut spending by an additional one percent. That isn’t principle – that is being a liar.

We really need to get people to understand that this isn’t a game. The fate of our nation is at stake – and while Democrats can gum up the works and prevent us from getting all we want, we still must get as much as we can. Trump must be able to rely on a solid GOP caucus…and if he can’t, then its time to primary until we do. We can’t make these people honest, but we can make them afraid.

Oh, Jeffries got up in the House to rant and rave against OBBB and he said, I quote, that the “deportation machine will be unleashed on steroids”. So, what we voted for.

Have a great and safe Fourth!

2 thoughts on “Open Thread

  1. Amazona's avatar Amazona July 3, 2025 / 1:49 pm

    When they tell us what they want to do, we need to pay attention.

    In this case, after Germany elected a far-Left governing coalition, the inevitable appointment of an even farther-Left radical judge looms. And this sends what should be a chilling message to every other country toying with the idea of moving to the Left.

    Brosius-Gersdorf is on record that she wants a ban on the AfD, saying: “We are a resilient democracy. We have safeguards against anti-constitutional parties.”

    A year ago, on the ZDF talk show “Markus Lanz” on July 25, 2024, Brosius-Gersdorf controversially expressed regret that an AfD ban “would not eliminate its supporters.”

    When Lanz, puzzled, asked, “You don’t want to eliminate people?”, she replied, “Of course not.” However, she insisted on the possibility of depriving AfD members of their basic rights, including the right to be elected, stating, “We have the ability to deprive individuals of their basic rights.”

    Note the typical weasel-wording. No, they don’t admit to wanting to “eliminate PEOPLE” (those camps are now tourist attractions, dammit) but just to eliminate their ability to participate in the government of their country.

    ‘”Including the right to be elected”. Gee, that sounds a lot like the efforts of some red-state legislatures and/or secretaries of state, doesn’t it, when there was an effort to keep Donald Trump off the ballots in the last presidential election. (But we are irrationally paranoid when we see these efforts as indicative of broader and greater control of the country and the people. /sarc )

    The issue at stake in Germany is whether or not the people have the right to vote against unrestricted immigration, in this case the Alternative for Germany (AfD) party. So the Left, in its usual jackboot-on-the-neck approach to eliminating opposition, wants to simply strip this party from “the right to be elected”. Hey, Progressivism consists of baby steps, right?

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan July 3, 2025 / 8:04 pm

      It is always like that!

      I recall a story from the French Revolution: I can’t remember if it was Robespierre or Danton who said it but, doesn’t matter: it was one of those psychos. Anyways, they were discussing what to do moving forward after cutting off Louis XVI’s head and one proposal was a national vote of the people. This was killed off immediately by Robespierre (or whomever) saying, “wouldn’t that be just to recall the Monarchy?”. Which was true – it wasn’t France that cut off the King’s head…it was the Parisian mob, led by the Jacobins who did that. Most of France was disgusted by it. And even if a free and fair vote didn’t restore the Monarchy, it wasn’t going to keep the Jacobins in power. The main thing about Fighters for the People is that they feel duty bound to prevent the people choosing the “wrong” thing. All for our own good, of course!

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