Making Peace Isn’t Appeasement

Back in 1908 G K Chesterton wrote a book called Orthodoxy in which he explained his general views but the opening of it has always stuck with me:

Thoroughly worldly people never understand even the world; they rely altogether on a few cynical maxims which are not true.

He went on to discuss the main bee in his bonnet on this – people who say they believe in themselves, pointing out that the madman is the most self-confident person. But this is applicable to any of the cynical maxims our worldly people believe that aren’t true. Another one – this one more relevant post-WWII – is that “you must not appease a tyrant”.

This is considered self-evidently true based on the fact that the British government – led, in turns, by Stanley Baldwin and Neville Chamberlain – tried to appease Hitler and the final result was World War Two. Aha!, say our Worldly Experts, the key, then, is to never appease. Never let aggression stand. Go right after those tyrants!

Except, of course, they’re full of it.

As it turns out, I would actually support a general American crusade against evil in the world. I would support raising an American military of 30 millions equipped with the most deadly weapons we can devise to drive through the world killing every last tyrant, murderer, liar and thief we could find. I would then write it in stone on mountains all over the world – in letters carved ten feet deep and towering a hundred feet high – that if anyone in the world set out to do what the dead evil tried, we will be back to kill them all over again. It would be a long, bloody and expensive war but when it was done, all the real evildoers being dead, we could relax in a Long Peace, maybe lasting for centuries before people forgot and started it all happening again.

But that isn’t what anyone wants. I might be the sole person on Earth who can contemplate such a thing. But that doesn’t make me wrong. It just makes me someone who has thought the matter all the way through.

Those who run our world and tell us we must not appease and must not deal with tyrants and so forth are, however, just lying. They’ll appease and deal all they want – when it suits them. And when it suits them to have us oppose the aggressor/tyrant, they’ll have us do so. But only half-hearted. Not all the way! We must stand up to Putin! But, no, not to the point where we’re actually harming him! Its like when we went to war against Terrorism in 2001 but refused to fight the actual Terrorists (you know, the Mullahs in Tehran). All they’re doing, really, is coming up with rationalizations for a policy which profits them the most. And, right now, the policy they want the most is continued war in Ukraine so they can keep harping on the nonsense idea that Trump is somehow Putin’s puppet and his peace deal is worse than Chamberlain at Munich.

Of course, Chamberlain at Munich wasn’t actually Chamberlain at Munich.

The official word we have about Munich is that a craven and stupid Chamberlain sold out the Czechs in the vain hope that it would buy Hitler off and thus avoid a war. The subtext being that Chamberlain should have stood firm and gone to war for the Czechs in 1938.

This is an arguable point – there was much to commend itself in the idea of fighting Nazi Germany in 1938. In hindsight, of course, we can really believe that had this happened, the world would have ended up in a much better place in later years. And it might have – but we don’t know. All we know is what happened. In the event, the Czechs, themselves, refused to fight. They blame the Brits and the French for not fighting but that is, well, bizarre. The choice to fight or not fight was the Czechs. They had a very good army and their defenses in the Sudetenland were formidable. Once the guns went off, no way to know how things might have turned out…lots of people would have loved to see Hitler taken down a notch and if the Czechs had stood tall, they might have found some combat allies. In no event would fighting have made them worse off as surrender merely ensured seven years of Nazi occupation followed by forty six years of Soviet domination.

But here’s the real crux of the matter – if it was morally required to fight Hitler’s regime in 1938 then it was equally morally required to fight Stalin’s regime. Between the two of them, in 1938, there wasn’t a dime’s worth of difference. Hitler’s regime went on to plumb the depths of depravity with the Holocaust, but that didn’t start until after WWII began and wasn’t fully implemented until 1942. We can’t demand people at the time know the future – especially something as unimaginable in 1938 as Auschwitz. You can’t, that is, claim that a later event requires prior action. All we can do for 1938 is look at 1938 and see what might be best given what was known at the time.

The first thing to remember about 1938 is that it was just twenty years since the end of World War One. A million Brits had been killed in that war. France had lost more than a million. Nobody in either country wanted a resumption of that. And British and French intelligence had determined, very firmly, that hardly anyone in Germany wanted a war, either. After all, the Krauts had lost nearly two million…and lost the war! The only thing the leaders of the world could see resulting from a war was another slogging match with piles of corpses and victory bought so dear as to be indistinguishable from defeat. Once again – remember! – you do not know about the Holocaust. It hasn’t happened. Hitler’s regime is no more evil than Stalin’s and nobody is demanding war to the death against Stalin. The British, especially, realized how precarious their position was…they were still massively in debt from the war, but their economy was just starting to recover from the depth of the Depression…and they still ruled a quarter of the globe and their Navy was the largest in the world. Another twenty years of peace and the economic ship would be righted…and British global dominance would continue. Go into another World War? Total bankruptcy even if victorious…the Empire dissolved simply for lack of resources to hold it. The end of Britain’s dominant position in the world.

So, sure, who gives a darn about the Sudetenland? That is, who cares about a landlocked nation in the center of Europe that you can’t render direct aid to even if you wanted to? If selling it out got you twenty more years of peace (and British intelligence was appraised of the growing opposition to Hitler in the military plus Germany’s increasingly difficult financial situation as Hitler’s rearmament and public works programs strained the German economy) and the chance that the Hitler regime fades away before anything bad happens? Of course you do that.

But then back come the people who live by cynical maxims – but look at what happened! Europe overrun! War lasting for years! Total destruction of the Continent! All of it could have been stopped if Chamberlain had told Hitler to go jump in a lake at Munich!

Maybe. Maybe not. Once again: we just don’t know what might have happened. We can only know what happened. And, as I said, there was a good argument to fight Hitler in 1938. But there was also a good argument not to: that is, his regime was on shaky ground financially and the Anglo-French alliance was massively more powerful than Germany, even if allied with Italy and Japan. We really condemn Chamberlain before the bar of history not because he appeased at Munich, but because in six weeks two years later Germany overran western Europe. That is, had Hitler not been able to take Paris, then Chamberlain’s memory would tend towards blessed rather than reviled – he would be remembered as the man who rearmed Britain and got her ready for WWII (the bottom line is that the Hurricane and Spitfire fighters, the Lancaster bomber and the Crusader/ Valentine tanks were all products of Chamberlain’s government). And here’s the real kicker – the reason you can’t be too sure about any counter-factual argument – the reason Hitler was able to conquer western Europe in six weeks was a simple (if quite grand) command failure of the French army.

We all know the great German breakthrough at Sedan in May of 1940 – but what most people gloss over (if they even know about it) is the fact that the French had a complete armored division just south of Sedan, perfectly positioned to pinch off that German breakthrough and make mincemeat of the entire German plan. The whole of Manstein’s famous plan was based around a quick breakthrough and a dash to the sea to spread panic among the Anglo-French military organism. If the Germans didn’t breakthrough – and quickly! – then the whole thing would fall apart as the numerically superior and higher quality Anglo-French force redeployed to stop and then roll back the German effort. And what did the French do with their armored division south of Sedan? They dispersed among the infantry forces…blowing their perfect opportunity. This was compounded in following days as a whole series of French errors messed up any chance of a credible response…but even those failures were predicated upon the first.

And that was it. One terrible mistake. Don’t think it’s silly – it has happened plenty of times before. The Austrians at Austerlitz and the Prussians at Jena similarly made mistakes which allowed Napoleon to wipe them out quickly…almost effortlessly, it seems in hindsight. Even though, combined, their armies were larger than Napoleon’s. Take away the mistakes and the Campaign of 1805 would have gone a lot differently. So, too, the Campaign of 1940.

The reality is that the blitzkrieg model of warfare only works if your enemy sort of walks into it – does things which allow you to waltz on through their lines and raise havoc in their rear areas. It worked quite spectacularly in 1940…and thus sowed the seeds of Germany’s defeat because those Krauts really thought they had something there. That is, they could destroy anyone with a combination of tanks and close air support. They ignored their luck at Sedan, plus ignored that, at the end of the day, they sent almost their entire armored force and most of their air force against one small sector of the French line and then the French command pretty much did exactly what the Germans needed to make the gamble pay. That might happen again – but it almost certainly won’t. And for the Germans, it never happened again. Their hubris led them find themselves sixteen months later sitting outside Moscow and Leningrad without the slightest clue what to do next.

What is the reality? That a well managed defense still has all the advantage. The Germans, themselves, showed that – and right at the end of the war. At the Battle of Seelow Heights in April of 1945, the Germans were outnumbered ten to one and they still held the Russians for three solid days…and if the Germans had had anything left to deploy, the Russian attack would have failed.

As it relates to current events, the Russians tried to do a blitzkrieg in Ukraine and after making some advances, found themselves unable to move further save by lengthy and costly siege operations against an alert and well-commanded enemy. What happened in February of 2022 is what was most likely to happened in May of 1940 – save for some incredible stroke of luck. The Germans got theirs. The Russians didn’t. But, on the other hand, it also works the other way – the Ukrainians also lack the power to crush the Russians absent some incredible stroke of luck. The only way either side can triumph is to somehow bring overwhelming force to the crisis point faster than the other side and move reinforcements there. Given general Russian incompetence it is unlikely that Russia can do this, and given Ukraine’s inferior manpower it is unlikely they can as well.

They can keep killing each other! And given Russia’s superior manpower if Putin can hold his people to it long enough, eventually Ukraine would be totally defeated for simple lack of soldiers to hold the line. But this is a project of years – and the side on the offensive is going to lose more dead than the defenders. And it is a massive role of the dice for Putin to even try. We can’t bet on a miracle – we can only count on cold, hard facts. And the cold, hard facts say this war is a stalemate and the result cannot be altered by the forces on the ground…only the intervention of a new, third power Army can alter the equation…and no third power wants to jump in here. We don’t. The Europeans don’t. So, it is time for peace…and, yes, a peace which allows Putin to keep his ill-gotten gains.

Which is not, by the way, outside of human experience. In fact, it is the more common result of warfare. The French lacked the power in 1871 to expel the Germans from France…and so they made a peace where they surrendered Alsace to Germany. It was bad. Unfair. Lousy. But what can you do? You either can do a thing, or you can’t. The French couldn’t beat the Germans that year. Continued fighting would only result in more dead with no alternation in France’s favor…and a solid chance it would get worse for them. Swallow the pride, make the deal. So, too, with Ukraine.

And it isn’t despicable appeasement – it is just diplomacy. We acknowledge Russia’s rule in the Donbas (Ukraine does, too) in return for a cessation of hostilities and a chance for Ukraine to rebuild herself economically and militarily. In other words, for a chance – if really desired – to alter today’s outcome at some future date. If its that important to them – I suspect it isn’t as the lands Putin occupies are mostly inhabited by ethnic Russians and even the most ardent Ukrainian nationalist is not seriously going to want to war on Russia to take in Russians as fellow citizens. This is all that Trump is doing – trying to wrap up Putin’s stupid war and allow the world to move on without more killing.

19 thoughts on “Making Peace Isn’t Appeasement

  1. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook November 24, 2025 / 1:15 pm

    I just love Jeff Childers’ way with words:

    “Mamdani still thinks Trump’s a fascist, but he’ll work with him.” Yesterday, I suggested that Trump generously refraining from repeatedly plunging Zohran Mamdani’s head into the Oval Office private toilet accomplished two things: it deprived the left of the public row they desperately wanted, to turn Mamdani into the second coming of Che Guevara, and it actually damaged the diminutive socialist. Exhibit A, straight from far-left Axios, yesterday:

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    The article —which knew exactly what it was doing— hilariously begins with this sentence: “New York City Mayor-elect Zohran Mamdani said in an interview aired Sunday he still believes President Trump is a fascist and a threat to democracy, even as he pledged to work with him to deliver for New Yorkers.”

    Put plainly: “The dictator is real, the danger is existential, democracy is hanging by a thread— but I’ll be sending him my budget requests by close of business.”

    It’s hard to overstate how catastrophically incoherent, impotent, and silly this makes Mamdani look. Trump didn’t need to body-slam him. Trump just shook his hand and smiled, and Mamdani instantly folded his moral absolutism into a neat little origami weasel.

    The left wanted a martyr. Trump gave them a collaborator, a pocket-sized Quisling, politely asking the ‘fascist threat to democracy’ permission to add a few more bike lanes.

    Astonishingly, some people think this stuff happens by accident, as if Zohran Mamdani just wandered into the Oval Office, slipped on the rug, and accidentally delivered the most humiliating collaborationist handshake since Quisling tried to guess which fork to use at Hitler’s official banquet. (LTMW.)

    Mamdani’s disastrous Oval Office performance was not the only example of “accidental” political choreography this week. The supersonic Ukraine storyline makes Mamdani look like a bumbling community-theater understudy.

  2. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook November 24, 2025 / 1:28 pm

    And then Childers followed up with this gem that every Conservative here has been hoping for:

    Speaking of widening nets of corruption, late last week, the outstanding Andy Ngo ran a story in the Post Millennial headlined, “First Antifa terrorism convictions in US history.” Progress!

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    On the evening of July 4th, while patriotic Texans were busy with barbecues and backyard fireworks, under cover of deepening darkness, a group of masked attackers slipped up to the PrairieLand ICE Detention Center in Alvarado. They moved like a small tactical team — black clothing, balaclavas, and rifles braced on an SUV hood.

    Without warning, they opened fire on ICE guard posts and administrative buildings, sending staff scrambling for cover. One officer was wounded in the neck. The attackers then launched a second wave, in the form of industrial-grade fireworks modified into explosive projectiles arcing over the fence, detonating in bursts of color and concussive smoke.

    The entire assault lasted barely ninety seconds. It was loud, coordinated, and aimed to shock. Then the attackers sprinted back to their vehicle and vanished into the darkness. Investigators later said it bore all the hallmarks of a pre-planned paramilitary ambush, not a protest gone sideways.

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    🔥 If the ambush looked like a paramilitary operation, the arrests resembled the finale of a dramatic police procedural. Within days, federal agents fanned out across North Texas with sealed warrants, grabbing suspects in door-kicking predawn raids that left neighbors blinking through screen doors and asking why the FBI was in their driveway.

    Agents recovered masks, clothing, shell casings, improvised explosive components, encrypted messaging devices, and — in one case — an entire drawer full of “revolutionary literature” more like a freshman-year anarchist starter kit.

    The biggest break in the case came when one suspect’s burner phone turned up with an unexpected automatic iCloud backup. Whoops. Investigators pulled GPS pings placing him at the detention center minutes before the shooting, along with group chats coordinating the approach, the firing positions, and the getaway route. From there, the dominos toppled quickly. Each arrest added another link in the network, another target in the growing conspiracy.

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    Once the indictments dropped, the courtroom drama began. And it became clear very fast that this was not the kind of group you’d want to trust in a silent-running operation. The first defendant to crack did so spectacularly, flipping within hours of his initial detention, agreeing to cooperate so fast the ink was still wet when the prosecutors walked into court.

    After that, five more plea deals raced through the small group of anarchists like food poisoning at a vegan farmer’s market. One co-conspirator agreed to testify about the weapons acquisition. Another admitted to scouting the facility. A third confessed to launching the explosive projectiles, explaining how they had modified commercial fireworks into impact grenades.

    By the end, prosecutors didn’t only have a case. They had a conspiracy narrative: a self-declared Antifa cell, armed, masked, coordinated, launching an in-and-out, ninety-second ambush on a federal facility, leaving an officer shot in the neck and a detention center shaken.

    Last week, the six cell members marched in single file into plea agreements confirming under oath that their attack was intentional, organized, and meant to do serious harm.

    As Andy Ngo pointed out, this is not just a minor legal victory. It’s a historic pivot point.

    🔥 These otherwise unmemorable ne’er-do-wells became the first Antifa terrorism convictions in U.S. history. It didn’t happen because a prosecutor got creative. The defendants copped to it. Their own plea deals cemented the terrorism narrative into the permanent judicial record.

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    And now the Justice Department is armed with admitted facts and a brand-new precedent, which will ultimately have more explosive power than any fireworks the cell lobbed over ICE’s fence. While there is no such thing as a standalone crime of “domestic terrorism,” federal statutes provide for enhanced punishments when other crimes are committed with ‘terroristic intent.’

    These cosplaying radicals were facing decades of jail time, but pleaded to a maximum of fifteen years in exchange for confessing how their cell was organized and where their training came from. The movement blossomed during a permissive Biden era, where an attack like this would draw a slap on the wrist. No longer.

    And the pleas and convictions are likely to spread.

    So far, the DOJ has charged sixteen people in the Alvarado attack. The fact that five are cooperating is very bad news for the rest. And there may be more, even a lot more, as the ripples travel outwards. One of the plea agreements, for example, references “others known and unknown”. That’s DOJ’s classic signal that the current indictments are not the final roster.

    Ominously (for Antifans), Reuters noted DOJ was investigating “associated actors in multiple jurisdictions.”

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    Most of these Antifa people aren’t ideologues. They’re cosplaying anarchists, with the commitment of a community college gender-studies student. This is the only insurgent movement in world history where half the cell has a Blue Bottle Coffee subscription and the other half DM’d their getaway driver using Signal— and then backed it up to iCloud.

    These aren’t hardened radicals. They’re dime-store ninjas in black hoodies who go home and Google “how to launder tear gas out of stretch polyester.” No wonder five of them already took plea deals. Revolutionaries fight to the bitter end. This bunch folds like ethically sourced pour-over filters.

    Unsurprisingly, there are no Antifa cells in prisons. Prison wardens track ‘Security Threat Groups’ (STGs), and none of their lists includes Antifa. Academic and law-enforcement studies say Antifa-style “affinity groups” cannot function inside prisons, thanks to the group’s lack of structure, internal ideological mismatches, inability to enforce discipline, and dominance of traditional gangs. And maybe because the grassroots are mostly astroturf.

    Fool around and … well, you know.

    • Cluster's avatar Cluster November 25, 2025 / 9:37 am

      This is the first time I am hearing about this and I am shocked it’s not covered more. Can you imagine if this were the proud boys?? The hypocrisy is on a scale never thought imaginable

      • Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook November 25, 2025 / 12:13 pm

        I think there are a couple of reasons for that, the main one being that it doesn’t fit the corporate media’s narrative, but also the fact that this administration leaks less than any in my lifetime.

  3. Retired Spook's avatar Retired Spook November 25, 2025 / 10:30 am

    Laughable quote of the day (James Comey commenting on charges of lying to Congress being dismissed on a technicality)

    “A message has to be sent that the President of the United States cannot use the Department of Justice to target his political enemies,”

    • Mark Noonan's avatar Mark Noonan November 25, 2025 / 1:02 pm

      He who lives by the District Judge, dies by the District Judge.

  4. Cluster's avatar Cluster November 25, 2025 / 1:59 pm

    I am thinking Hegseth could beat the living hell out of dough boy Reuben Gallego. Reuben should be careful who he attacks.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 26, 2025 / 10:45 am

      I am thinking Hegseth’s daughter could beat the living hell out of dough boy Reuben Gallego

      • Cluster's avatar Cluster November 27, 2025 / 12:10 pm

        😂 true

  5. Amazona's avatar Amazona November 26, 2025 / 11:32 am

    If the Pentagon is ” reviewing serious misconduct allegations involving Arizona Sen. Mark Kelly, a retired Navy captain” with the potential outcome of ” recalling Kelly to active duty for potential court-martial proceedings” then why can’t the same process be put in place regarding Representative Jason Crow?

    A fast-moving dispute erupted in Washington after Rep. Jason Crow challenged the Justice Department’s response to a viral video urging U.S. service members and intelligence officers to reject any order that violates the law. Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche acknowledged internally that the video had raised concerns inside the department, placing Crow and several former military lawmakers at the center of a sudden political and legal flashpoint.

    The strategy behind the video is clear: Its appeal is to the mouthbreathers who eagerly await the Next Shiny New Thing they can adopt in their ceaseless quest for relevance. It is a masterpiece of passive-aggressive emotional manipulation and deception, as it implies that in fact military personnel have been asked to carry out orders which are illegal. This is what gets out to the unquestioning base, which is not likely to be watching any of the media examples of the total failure of the protagonists to provide a single example of any illegal order issued.

    The lawmakers (on the video) coyly say their goal is merely “to remind service members of their oath” as they piously invoke their alleged loyalty to the country and the Constitution. It’s a classic example of the power of innuendo as they conspire to create the illusion that illegal orders have been issued while retaining the ability make big-eyed expressions of utter innocence to proclaim that no, they never ACTUALLY ACCUSED the president of issuing illegal orders.

    The legal matter might rest on the demand that people in the military reject orders they feel are illegal. The key words here are “REJECT” and “FEEL”.

    How the Law Handles Order Legality in the U.S. MilitaryUnderstanding Lawful vs. Unlawful Orders

    Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), service members must follow lawful orders and must not follow orders that instruct them to commit a clear violation of U.S. law.
    Determining whether an order crosses that line generally involves a commander, legal officers (JAGs), and established review channels.

    Orders related to deployment or policy rarely meet the threshold of illegality.
    The standard is high and based on clear legal violations, not disagreement with policy.

    So it appears that these six lawmakers, acting purely to advance the political agenda of undermining the authority and position of the President of the United States, have instructed military personnel to ignore the actual UCMJ rules on determining the legality of an order and to merely act on their own FEELINGS about the order rather than going through “established review channels”.

    Naturally, the goal is not to actually, legally, challenge an order and have that challenge go through established review channels, but to merely throw enough Leftist excrement against the wall that enough will stick to convey a sense of wrongdoing by the president—with the corollary fantasy of nobility and courage in RESISTING it. (See the pattern here? #RESIST has moved beyond mere slogans to overt instructions from elected officials to defy the authority of the president, weasel-wording notwithstanding.)

    How the Military Provides Clarity to Service Members

    In periods of public debate involving military conduct, leadership can issue reminders outlining:

    • The legal definition of a lawful order
    • The obligation to question clearly illegal commands through proper channels
    • The chain-of-command process for raising concerns

    These communications are standard practice across administrations.

    So it looks like these military veterans are instructing military personnel to abandon or reject the UCMJ processes. Which leads us to this:

    Under military law, orders are generally presumed lawful, retirees can still fall under the UCMJ, and federal statutes—such as 18 U.S.C. § 2387prohibit actions that may undermine loyalty or morale.

    Taking us back to the question of whether or not Mark Kelly can be recalled to active duty and then court-martialed, which leads me to my lead-in question: If this can be applied to Mark Kelly, why can’t it / shouldn’t it/ be applied to Jason Crow? (Or to all of the veterans who appeared in the video, for that matter.)

    Sen. Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.), Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), Rep. Chrissy Houlahan (D-Pa.), Rep. Chris Deluzio (D-Pa.), Rep. Maggie Goodlander (D-N.H.) and Rep. Jason Crow (D-Colo.), said.

    “Our laws are clear: You can refuse illegal orders. You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders,” they said, without specifying which directives. “No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution.”

    So maybe the next step would be to recall each of these reservists to active duty and subject them to courts-martial, where their words can be objectively analyzed and compared to the standards of military ethics, the UCMJ, and 18 U.S.C. § 2387. So the question should be asked, and answered, regarding each of the veterans in this video: Are any of them eligible for retirement pay?

    Regular military retirees eligible for pay stay under the UCMJ, even if they give up payments.

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 27, 2025 / 10:36 am

      Kurt Schlichter explains: “The other military personnel were honorably discharged, but they are not subject to the UCMJ because they are not military active-duty retirees”.

      He also addresses the point I made, about the inherent dishonesty of the big-eyed protestations of innocent intent: “The problem for Captain Kelly is that it’s clear to all but the willfully obtuse that his stupid video was a transparent attempt to undermine President Trump, our elected commander-in-chief. They are playing both dumb and innocent – …”

  6. Cluster's avatar Cluster November 26, 2025 / 5:40 pm

    The agenda media will label the national guardsmen shooter as MAGA in 3 2 1 ….

    • Amazona's avatar Amazona November 27, 2025 / 9:42 am

      I haven’t seen that yet, but the new narrative is that their shootings are Trump’s fault because he “put them in harm’s way”.

      The really funny thing about this is the utter cluelessness of these flying monkeys as they admit that being in law enforcement in their hellholes of rampant criminality means to be “in harm’s way”. It’s an admission that to be in those cities is, by definition, dangerous.

      The suspect is an Afghan brought here by Biden. I’m not sure how they are going to spin that.

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