Jesse Helms, RIP
July 4th, 2008 at 12:45pm Mark Noonan
At 86 years old:
Former Republican Sen. Jesse Helms, a leading conservative on Capitol Hill, died Friday morning. He was 86.
The Jesse Helms Center posted a brief statement on its Web site saying Helms died at 1:15 a.m. in Raleigh, N.C.
“He was very comfortable,” said former chief of staff Jimmy Broughton, who added Helms died of natural causes in Raleigh.
The five-term senator from North Carolina formerly chaired the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and often railed against Communism, liberalism and big government.
Known by some as “Senator No” for his opposition to Democratic measures, Helms was a polarizing figure for his positions on social issues.
He was a proponent of school prayer and an opponent of abortion rights and gay rights groups.
Colleagues said he always was a gentleman, no matter what his positions were.
“America has lost a great public servant and true patriot today,” a White House spokesman said, after learning of Helms’ death on the Fourth of July.
Liberals hated this man - but he was, by all accounts, a very kind person who treated everyone with the respect they were due as human beings…and when slavery reared its ugly head in Africa, it wasn’t the “civil rights” movement which led the fight against it, but Senator Jesse Helms.
May God bless you, Senator, and bring you home.
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67 Comments
1. FmrMarine | July 4th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Mark
We have truly lost a great man.
May he rest in peace, and our prayers are out for his family.
2. Macker | July 4th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
And he was called home on the Fourth of July. That’ll piss off the leftards more than anything!
3. Rana Quijotesca | July 4th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
He wasn’t a great man though… he was a bigoted, intolerant man who was ultimately a waste of carbon. He was an obstructionist in the Senate and a painful reminder of our bigoted, segregated past.
His passing on the 4th of July is noteworthy though–Perhaps the anniversary of the birth of our Nation will mark the birth of a nation without people like Jesse Helms…
4. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 4th, 2008 at 8:53 pm
2. Macker | July 4th, 2008 at 2:22 pm
And he was called home on the Fourth of July. That’ll piss off the leftards more than anything!
Maker-
On the contrary, I think his passing on Independence Day is a great gift to this nation. One more unreconstructed southern racist under our feet is a great birthday present for this country. HIP HIP HOORAYYYYYYY!!!!!!!! :-D
5. Jonathan | July 4th, 2008 at 9:13 pm
Jesse Helms?
The same senator that opposed civil rights, gay rights, and compared abortion to 9/11 attacks and the Holocaust?
The same senator who supported South American dictatorial murders like Roberto D’Aubuisson, the man who organized the infamous “Death Squads” of El Salvador, and Augusto Pinochet of Chile?
Are you talking about that hateful, bigoted creep?
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
6. Evergreen | July 4th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
He didn’t pass away as they say at 1:15AM on the Fourth. This is just another lie from those that followed the teachings of the racist bigot. His heart died years ago. About right now he and Jerry Falwell have some explaining to do.
7. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
Dear Leftist,
Please do not harbor hate in your heart.
Behold, the Day of the Lord is at hand, and He will cast out all the wicked among His people.
8. CanadianObserver | July 4th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
He will cast out all the wicked among His people.
7. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
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So you agree, Jeremiah, that Jesse Helms and individuals of his ilk will be cast out when the day of reckoning is at hand, eh.
9. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
So you agree, Jeremiah, that Jesse Helms and individuals of his ilk will be cast out when the day of reckoning is at hand, eh.
CanadianObserver,
No, not exactly.
People who hate Jesse Helms will be cast out.
10. CanadianObserver | July 4th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
9. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 10:31p.m.
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And Jesse Helms will be let off scott free? Do you think that’s fair, Jeremiah?
I guess because he accepted JC as his personal saviour he gets a free pass regardless of how evil his deeds were here on earth. Is that how it works, Jeremiah?
11. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
regardless of how evil his deeds were here on earth.
CanadianObserver,
It depends on what you consider to be “evil.”
Now, me personally, entirely the same as Jesse Helms, I find sodomy and abortion (the deliberate pre-meditated murder of an unborn child) to be, indeed, Evil.
You, on the other hand, find those things to be good and want to fight on behalf of those who are active in those very same evil lifestyles and deeds. Much like all those organizations in this country who are raising money to further perpetuate this evil–ACLU, NAMBLA, GLBT, NOW, AA (American Atheists), AUFSOCAS (Americans United for Separation of Church and State), Planned Parenthood, National Abortion Association, ……..ALL, of which, are proponents of the destruction of innocent human life and destroying the mental capacity of our children.
These organizations are why this is the largest Holocaust in History. Way more than the Jewish Holocaust (No offense to those folk), but if you cannot see the inherent EVIL in these organizations who carry out Satan’s decree then you, in essence, are with them. You can never be on both sides of one debate…..you are either for EVIL or against EVIL. You cannot say, “I don’t think abortion is right, but I think women should be allowed to have them.” Nope. Doesn’t work that way, despite the fact that you say ‘abortion is wrong’ yet you wish them to be able to murder their children you are on the side of EVIL, there is no good in you.
12. LiberalNitemare | July 4th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
Personally, I hope that Jesse Helms recieves at least the same amount of mercy that (I hope) God will show me when its my time.
Judge not, that ye be not judged
13. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Judge not, that ye be not judged
Widely abused, time and time again.
When we judge, we are to judge from a Righteous standpoint in order that good may become of it.
If we show indifference to all we come into contact with, then would be led in all different directions, stepping into every snare Satan throws our way.
For example, if CandadianObserver said to me, “Don’t rail against pedophiles, they won’t hurt anybody”, or, “Abortion is a “good” thing”, or, “I think the government should pay for everybody’s healthcare”, or “Homosexuality is ok in the pulpit”, or “Children should be taught homosexuality in school”….
If I said “Ok, no problem” to all that he’s said, yet holding the same beliefs that I do at the same time, what am I to believe? And chaces are, that many bad things would happen as a result.
We are to judge from a Righteous judgement….and Jesse Helms was a good man. period.
14. LiberalNitemare | July 4th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
I dont think Im abusing the nature of that qoute in regards to this thread.
Whether or not a persons behavior (or political track record) will lead to hell or cause a person to be cast out, is question that is quite frankly, above our pay grade.
15. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
I dont think Im abusing the nature of that qoute in regards to this thread.
I’m just saying, many do, and they use it as their sole priority to cut people of faith down. People use it as a means to show that they do not care one way or the other in order to advance evil.
For example, if I said, such and such person who had committed an act of ill will and were in danger of condemnation by God’s Spirit, that they need to get right with God and ask for forgiveness….then another person might say to me that what that person done was “acceptable” and not judge lest I be judged…Well, that’s where they’re using the verse in a wrong sense, they’re using it as a means to further that same kinds of ill willed act that that person committed.
See?
Now, as far as knowing whether Mr. Helms is in heaven or not, is no way for me to tell, all I can tell is from his life while he was here, and I can tell you that he was a good man.
Just like…can anyone doubt that Bill Graham is a ‘man of God’?
16. LiberalNitemare | July 5th, 2008 at 12:00 am
I see now where you are coming from, and I dont disagree with you.
I was reacting more to C.O’s post, suggesting that accepting Christ was somehow equivalent to a free pass. (Also to the notion that Helms was evil and should be “cast out” for the mortal sin of disagreeing with liberals.)
The statement that we should not judge stems from the fact the none of us are without sin, and thus we have no right to judge another. We all depend on Gods mercy.
That fact does not mean that we should condone evil when we see it, or that we have some responsibility to ignore what is wrong.
17. LiberalNitemare | July 5th, 2008 at 12:09 am
Whats a philosophical racist? Some who hates philosphers?
As long as we are on the subject of racism. I think that the bahavior of both the Obama and Hillary camps in this most recent contest, ultimately removes the ability of any democrat to stand up and call another person a racist.
18. Jeremiah | July 5th, 2008 at 12:16 am
That fact does not mean that we should condone evil when we see it, or that we have some responsibility to ignore what is wrong.
Right.
And that unless we have our own lives in order and right with God, then that is where we have no place to judge.
Just like, if I was a sinner, then I would have no place to judge someone doing the same thing, because I have to get my own life cleaned up.
And when we come to an understanding of truth as is stated in God’s Word, then we can differentiate and form our opinions based upon it, because it is Truth. And you’re exactly right…none of us is without sin, but with the life-changing experience that Jesus Christ brings, He can help us to clearly understand what is evil and what is not, just the basics of right and wrong. But we must remember, that we can’t do it all on our own, because we are by nature fallen born physically into sin, and that’s why we must accept Christ as our personal Savior and be re-born.
Jesus said, ‘That which is born of the flesh is flesh, that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit.’
The logic here, is that the Holy Spirit comes to us through faith, and we can discern God’s Word from an infilling of His Holy Spirit. Everything we do, we must do from faith. Faith in Jesus Christ, Faith in day to day work ethics, and so on…
19. kjstrouble | July 5th, 2008 at 12:47 am
From all that I have heard and read - Jesse Helms recanted his racist beliefs later in life. He learned and grew, wonder if the libs will ever do that?
Rana - the man is dead, and you sound as if you want to dance on his grave. How would feel if when Senator Kennedy dies people talked like that about him? Grow up, have some compassion, or stay away.
20. Rana Quijotesca | July 5th, 2008 at 12:54 am
No… don’t much like dancing over here… but one fewer bigot is always a good thing. I have compassion for his family and friends, but I am not personally sad for his passing. Speaking the truth about someone shouldn’t be offensive, but… seeing as it is…
tough
21. Jeremiah | July 5th, 2008 at 1:37 am
So, you see, kjs … the leftists here, like Rana, instead of desiring to unite around good, they want to unite around evil and that’s why they jump with glee of the passing of a great and courageous leader like Mr. Jesse Helms. Wanting us to compromise to join their evil ranks.
This is the type of mentality that the leftist indoctrination is turning out country into.
God help us as a Nation.
22. Mark Noonan | July 5th, 2008 at 2:31 am
So sad the way some of you liberals just hate, hate and then hate some more…and the saddest part of it is that you hate this man Jesse Helms not because of what you found out about him, but because of what others told you about him. You hate the man who’s heart bled for the children of Africa who suffered needlessly simply because for many, many years - under conservative and liberal leadership - the United States didn’t do the rather simple and relatively inexpensive things which make all the difference in the world. You hate the man who saw the re-emergence of slavery in Africa and unlike some, refused to explain it away and insisted we do something about it. You hate him, though you know him not…
23. Jeremiah | July 5th, 2008 at 2:44 am
The Lefties are proving Jesus prophecy more every day.
When they crucified Him the people jumped for glee with blood lust on their lips.
The same today….
BROOD OF VIPERS!
24. bongoman | July 5th, 2008 at 2:55 am
Jeremiah, how can you simply deny the negativity of Helms, the misguided alliances and deeds and proclaim him “a great and courageous leader”?
25. Mark Noonan | July 5th, 2008 at 3:18 am
bongo,
Well, we’re actually just denying the leftwing fairy tales about Helms…the stories that he was a racist politician in the 1950’s, that he worked to keep black judges off the bench…that sort of thing. Of course, the real hatred of Jesse Helms stems from two things - he tried to stop government funding for displays of Mapplethorp’s pornography and, most importantly, Helms was an unapologetic and highly effective warrior for conservatism…
26. bongoman | July 5th, 2008 at 3:24 am
…and he supported objectionable regimes around the world, supported the pro-death agenda of big tobacco, resisted progress in civil rights, and expressed pride in his racism.
But somehow Helm’s viciousness and hatred is off-limits?
27. Pain | July 5th, 2008 at 11:21 am
We have got it from here.
28. Pain | July 5th, 2008 at 11:26 am
13. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
And by your statements you condemn yourself to suffer in Hell for the dual sins of hubris and hypocrisy.
29. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Mark, Jeremiah, False Christians , and conservatives et al,
Here is YOUR hero…..
-Helms commented on the 1963 Civil Rights protests, “The Negro cannot count forever on the kind of restraint that’s thus far left him free to clog the streets, disrupt traffic, and interfere with other men’s rights.”[4] (WRAL-TV commentary, 1963) He also wrote, “Crime rates and irresponsibility among Negroes are a fact of life which must be faced.”
-Senate campaign of 1972
Helms announced his candidacy for a seat in the United States Senate in 1972. He won the Republican primary with 60.1 percent of the vote and eliminated two intraparty opponents. Meanwhile, Democrats retired the ailing Senator B. Everett Jordan, who lost his primary, 55.3 percent to 44.6 percent, to Congressman Nick Galifianakis of Durham. Helms played upon Galifianakis’ ethnicity during the campaign, running under the slogan “Vote for Helms—He’s One of Us!”.
-Helms opposed the Martin Luther King Day bill in 1983 on grounds that King had two associates with communist ties, Stanley Levison and Jack O’Dell.
-Helms had close ties to the rightist Salvadoran death squad leader Roberto D’Aubuisson and was considered a main sponsor of D’Aubuisson’s political party, the Nationalist Republican Alliance.[8] When confronted with evidence that D’Aubuisson ran death squads that systematically murdered civilians, he replied that “[a]ll I know, is that D’Aubuisson is a free enterprise man and deeply religious.”
-Opposition to AIDS funding
Helms was “bitterly opposed to federal financing of AIDS research and treatment”.[12] Opposing the Kennedy-Hatch AIDS bill in 1988, Helms stated, “There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy.”[13] When Ryan White died in 1990, his mother went to Congress to speak to politicians on behalf of people with AIDS. She spoke to 23 representatives: Helms refused to speak to her even when she was alone with him in an elevator.”
-Helms once deeply offended a black colleague, Democratic Senator Carol Moseley-Braun of Illinois, by singing part of “Dixie” on a Capitol elevator.
Soon after the Senate vote on the Confederate flag insignia, Sen. Jesse Helms (R.-N.C.) ran into Mosely-Braun in a Capitol elevator. Helms turned to his friend, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah), and said, “Watch me make her cry. I’m going to make her cry. I’m going to sing ‘Dixie’ until she cries.” He then proceeded to sing the song about “the good life” during slavery to Mosely-Braun (Gannett News Service, 1993-09-02; Time, 1993-08-16).
-Helms was an ardent supporter of the late Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet.
-Having attempted, and failed, to block passage of the Ryan White Comprehensive AIDS Resources Emergency Care (CARE) Act passed in 1990, Helms tried to block its refunding in 1995, saying that those with AIDS were responsible for the disease, because they had contracted it because of their “deliberate, disgusting, revolting conduct”, and falsely claiming that more federal dollars were spent on AIDS than heart disease or cancer.
Real “Christian” HUH..
In the words of truly great American and a REAL Christian,
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST, THANK GOD ALMIGHTY WE’RE FREE AT LAST!!!!!
30. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 5th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Jesse Helms R.I.P. (Rotting In Perdition)
You better believe it.
31. Mark Noonan | July 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
NiP,
Even if that were true, you still haven’t the competance to make the judgement, and you place yourself in grave danger by so doing:
What you’ve got there is the left’s litany against Helms - its a hodge-podge of half truths and outright lies spiced with a complete unwillingness to even try to see things from Helms’ point of view. Jay Nordlinger did an interview with Helms in 2005, and here’s a couple quotes:
If only you would, for once, try to learn rather than mindlessly parrot what people tell you…
32. neocon | July 5th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Liberals will always dismiss truth in favor baseless propaganda. It satisfies their need to vilify, hate and divide.
have a divisive day
peace, neocon
33. CanadianObserver | July 5th, 2008 at 1:55 pm
29. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 5th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
And this person is considered to be ‘great’ in the eyes of Fmr Marine. Mark continues to defend him and the rest of the sheep think he was a real classy guy with a direct route to paradise. Just goes to show ya, eh.
34. Rana Quijotesca | July 5th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
…he says after quoting a right-wing website…
Seriously Mark, if you were a racist, but, being in a situation where racism was not exactly popular, wanted to maintain a positive legacy, would you openly admit to being a racist?
But, since you just believe what you are being told about Mr. Helms (Just…as…you…accuse…us…of…doing) here is another source supporting my points. In fact, every time you counter my claims by attacking a source or ducking the issues at hand, I’ll just pull up another source… it’ll be fun!
35. Mark Noonan | July 5th, 2008 at 2:45 pm
Rana,
Your source link isn’t functioning - but I’ll bet dollars to donuts its another site referring to some other source. In other words, I’m betting against you having a link to an original source document.
36. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Neo
”Atheism and socialism — or liberalism, which tends in the same direction — are inseparable entities. When you have men who no longer believe that God is in charge of human affairs, you have men attempting to take the place of God by means of the Superstate.” — book, 1973
”It is a feather in North Carolina’s cap for us to be No. 50 [in distribution of federal tax dollars]. We use less of the taxpayers’ money for welfare and that sort of thing.” — Charlotte Observer, 1991
”She’s not your garden-variety lesbian. She’s a militant-activist-mean lesbian.”
– on a nominee for a federal job, 1993
”We’ve got to have some common sense about a disease transmitted by people deliberately engaging in unnatural acts.”
– on AIDS, in an interview with The New York Times, 1995
”Americans need to stop protesting, marching, looting, burning, destroying, threatening, posturing and loafing. They need to start minding their own business again, go back to work, regain respect for decency and personal responsibility, and to pray for God’s forgiveness for what they have deliberately tried to do to America.”
– WRAL-TV editorial, 1966
Some very on the mark quotes from a GREAT MAN.
PSSSSSTTTT ..it was the southern DEMOCRATS
who WERE the KKK and the quintessential RACISTS…
37. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 5th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Mark-
Most of what I gave you is in the public record. His stance on denying funding for AIDS research, his rejectionist views on civil rights, against MLK day, his underhanded racist political campaigns, and much much more. Not one thing came from a left leaning group it’s all in the PUBLIC RECORD MARK…deal with it.
Helms never recanted anything. All he did, as those pathetic quotes you posted illustrate, is divert and sidestep the question about his repugnant behavior.
I really feel sorry for you Mark that you can turn a blind eye to such a horrible record of a person like Helms. I now see that you are beyond help.
38. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
johnathan;
>>>>Are you talking about that hateful, bigoted creep?
Good riddance to bad rubbish.>>>>
TRY to L-E-A-R-N something about racists
If only blacks knew of the true history of the Democratic Party.
“Black History Month” has been observed for 29 years, yet many blacks know little to nothing about the parties’ respective roles in advancing or hindering the civil rights of blacks. How many blacks know that following the Civil War, 23 blacks — 13 of them ex-slaves — were elected to Congress, all as Republicans? The first black Democrat was not elected to Congress until 1935, from the state of Illinois. The first black congressional Democrat from a Southern state was not elected until 1973.
Democrats, in 1854, passed the Kansas-Nebraska Act. This overturned the Missouri Compromise and allowed for the importation of slaves into the territories. Disgusted with the passage of this Act, free-soilers and anti-slavery members of the Whig and Democratic parties founded the Republican Party — not just to stop the spread of slavery, but to eventually abolish it.
How many blacks know that blacks founded the Texas Republican Party? On July 4, 1867, in Houston, Texas, 150 blacks and 20 whites formed the party. No, not the Black Texas Republican Party, they founded the Texas Republican Party. Blacks across Southern states also founded the Republican parties in their states.
Fugitive slave laws? In 1850, Democrats passed the Fugitive Slave Law. If merely accused of being a slave, even if the person enjoyed freedom all of his or her life (as approximately 11 percent of blacks did just before the Civil War), the person lost the right to representation by an attorney, the right to trial by jury, and the right to habeas corpus.
Emancipation? Republican President Abraham Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation during the Civil War. In 1865, the 13th Amendment emancipating the slaves was passed with 100 percent of Republicans (88 of 88 in the House, 30 of 30 in the Senate) voting for it. Only 23 percent of Democrats (16 of 66 in the House, 3 of 8 in the Senate) voted for it.
Civil rights laws? In 1868, the 14th Amendment was passed giving the newly emancipated blacks full civil rights and federal guarantee of those rights, superseding any state laws. Every single voting Republican (128 of 134 — with 6 not voting — in the House, and 30 of 32 — with 2 not voting — in the Senate) voted for the 14th Amendment. Not a single Democrat (zero of 36 in the House, zero of 6 in the Senate) voted for it.
Right to vote? When Southern states balked at implementing the 14th Amendment, Congress came back and passed the 15th Amendment in 1870, guaranteeing blacks the right to vote. Every single Republican voted for it, with every Democrat voting against it.
Ku Klux Klan? In 1872 congressional investigations, Democrats admitted beginning the Klan as an effort to stop the spread of the Republican Party and to re-establish Democratic control in Southern states. As PBS’ “American Experience” notes, “In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power. The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tenn., in 1865.” Blacks, who were all Republican at that time, became the primary targets of violence.
Jim Crow laws? Between 1870 and 1875, the Republican Congress passed many pro-black civil rights laws. But in 1876, Democrats took control of the House, and no further race-based civil rights laws passed until 1957. In 1892, Democrats gained control of the House, the Senate and the White House, and repealed all the Republican-passed civil rights laws. That enabled the Southern Democrats to pass the Jim Crow laws, poll taxes, literacy tests, and so on, in their individual states.
Civil rights in the ’60s? Only 64 percent of Democrats in Congress voted for the 1964 Civil Rights Act (153 for, 91 against in the House; and 46 for, 21 against in the Senate). But 80 percent of Republicans (136 for, 35 against in the House; and 27 for, 6 against in the Senate) voted for the 1964 Act.
What about the reviled, allegedly anti-black, Republican “Southern strategy”? Pat Buchanan, writing for Richard Nixon (who became the Republican Party candidate two years later) coined the term “Southern strategy.” They expected the “strategy” to ultimately result in the complete marginalization of racist Southern Democrats. “We would build our Republican Party on a foundation of states’ rights, human rights, small government, and a strong national defense,” said Buchanan, “and leave it to the ‘party of [Democratic Georgia Gov. Lester] Maddox, [1966 Democratic challenger against Spiro Agnew for Maryland governor George] Mahoney, and [Democratic Alabama Gov. George] Wallace to squeeze the last ounces of political juice out of the rotting fruit of racial injustice.’” And President Richard Nixon, Republican, implemented the first federal affirmative action (race-based preference) laws with goals and timetables.
So next “Black History Month,” pass some of this stuff along.
39. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 5th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
(pretending to be a) FmrMarine-
Thanks for showing us the “quality” of your character.
I’m surprised you took the time away from buggering your sister to post that.
40. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
NIP
actually it was your mother, she is such a slut, very talented.
March 20, 1854 Opponents of Democrats’ pro-slavery policies meet in Ripon, Wisconsin to establish the Republican Party
May 30, 1854 Democrat President Franklin Pierce signs Democrats’ Kansas-Nebraska Act, expanding slavery into U.S. territories; opponents unite to form the Republican Party
June 16, 1854 Newspaper editor Horace Greeley calls on opponents of slavery to unite in the Republican Party
July 6, 1854 First state Republican Party officially organized in Jackson, Michigan, to oppose Democrats’ pro-slavery policies
February 11, 1856 Republican Montgomery Blair argues before U.S. Supreme Court on behalf of his client, the slave Dred Scott; later served in President Lincoln’s Cabinet
February 22, 1856 First national meeting of the Republican Party, in Pittsburgh, to coordinate opposition to Democrats’ pro-slavery policies
March 27, 1856 First meeting of Republican National Committee in Washington, DC to oppose Democrats’ pro-slavery policies
May 22, 1856 For denouncing Democrats’ pro-slavery policy, Republican U.S. Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA) is beaten nearly to death on floor of Senate by U.S. Rep. Preston Brooks (D-SC), takes three years to recover
March 6, 1857 Republican Supreme Court Justice John McLean issues strenuous dissent from decision by 7 Democrats in infamous Dred Scott case that African-Americans had no rights “which any white man was bound to respect”
June 26, 1857 Abraham Lincoln declares Republican position that slavery is “cruelly wrong,” while Democrats “cultivate and excite hatred” for blacks
October 13, 1858 During Lincoln-Douglas debates, U.S. Senator Stephen Douglas (D-IL) states: “I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”; Douglas became Democratic Party’s 1860 presidential nominee
October 25, 1858 U.S. Senator William Seward (R-NY) describes Democratic Party as “inextricably committed to the designs of the slaveholders”; as President Abraham Lincoln’s Secretary of State, helped draft Emancipation Proclamation
June 4, 1860 Republican U.S. Senator Charles Sumner (R-MA) delivers his classic address, The Barbarism of Slavery
April 7, 1862 President Lincoln concludes treaty with Britain for suppression of slave trade
April 16, 1862 President Lincoln signs bill abolishing slavery in District of Columbia; in Congress, 99% of Republicans vote yes, 83% of Democrats vote no
July 2, 1862 U.S. Rep. Justin Morrill (R-VT) wins passage of Land Grant Act, establishing colleges open to African-Americans, including such students as George Washington Carver
July 17, 1862 Over unanimous Democrat opposition, Republican Congress passes Confiscation Act stating that slaves of the Confederacy “shall be forever free”
August 19, 1862 Republican newspaper editor Horace Greeley writes Prayer of Twenty Millions, calling on President Lincoln to declare emancipation
August 25, 1862 President Abraham Lincoln authorizes enlistment of African-American soldiers in U.S. Army
September 22, 1862 Republican President Abraham Lincoln issues Emancipation Proclamation
January 1, 1863 Emancipation Proclamation, implementing the Republicans’ Confiscation Act of 1862, takes effect
February 9, 1864 Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton deliver over 100,000 signatures to U.S. Senate supporting Republicans’ plans for constitutional amendment to ban slavery
June 15, 1864 Republican Congress votes equal pay for African-American troops serving in U.S. Army during Civil War
June 28, 1864 Republican majority in Congress repeals Fugitive Slave Acts
October 29, 1864 African-American abolitionist Sojourner Truth says of President Lincoln: “I never was treated by anyone with more kindness and cordiality than were shown to me by that great and good man”
January 31, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. House with unanimous Republican support, intense Democrat opposition
March 3, 1865 Republican Congress establishes Freedmen’s Bureau to provide health care, education, and technical assistance to emancipated slaves
April 8, 1865 13th Amendment banning slavery passed by U.S. Senate with 100% Republican support, 63% Democrat opposition
June 19, 1865 On “Juneteenth,” U.S. troops land in Galveston, TX to enforce ban on slavery that had been declared more than two years before by the Emancipation Proclamation
November 22, 1865 Republicans denounce Democrat legislature of Mississippi for enacting “black codes,” which institutionalized racial discrimination
December 6, 1865 Republican Party’s 13th Amendment, banning slavery, is ratified
February 5, 1866 U.S. Rep. Thaddeus Stevens (R-PA) introduces legislation, successfully opposed by Democrat President Andrew Johnson, to implement “40 acres and a mule” relief by distributing land to former slaves
April 9, 1866 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Johnson’s veto; Civil Rights Act of 1866, conferring rights of citizenship on African-Americans, becomes law
April 19, 1866 Thousands assemble in Washington, DC to celebrate Republican Party’s abolition of slavery
May 10, 1866 U.S. House passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the laws to all citizens; 100% of Democrats vote no
June 8, 1866 U.S. Senate passes Republicans’ 14th Amendment guaranteeing due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens; 94% of Republicans vote yes and 100% of Democrats vote no
July 16, 1866 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of Freedman’s Bureau Act, which protected former slaves from “black codes” denying their rights
July 28, 1866 Republican Congress authorizes formation of the Buffalo Soldiers, two regiments of African-American cavalrymen
July 30, 1866 Democrat-controlled City of New Orleans orders police to storm racially-integrated Republican meeting; raid kills 40 and wounds more than 150
January 8, 1867 Republicans override Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of law granting voting rights to African-Americans in D.C.
July 19, 1867 Republican Congress overrides Democrat President Andrew Johnson’s veto of legislation protecting voting rights of African-Americans
March 30, 1868 Republicans begin impeachment trial of Democrat President Andrew Johnson, who declared: “This is a country for white men, and by God, as long as I am President, it shall be a government of white men”
May 20, 1868 Republican National Convention marks debut of African-American politicians on national stage; two – Pinckney Pinchback and James Harris – attend as delegates, and several serve as presidential electors
September 3, 1868 25 African-Americans in Georgia legislature, all Republicans, expelled by Democrat majority; later reinstated by Republican Congress
September 12, 1868 Civil rights activist Tunis Campbell and all other African-Americans in Georgia Senate, every one a Republican, expelled by Democrat majority; would later be reinstated by Republican Congress
September 28, 1868 Democrats in Opelousas, Louisiana murder nearly 300 African-Americans who tried to prevent an assault against a Republican newspaper editor
October 7, 1868 Republicans denounce Democratic Party’s national campaign theme: “This is a white man’s country: Let white men rule”
October 22, 1868 While campaigning for re-election, Republican U.S. Rep. James Hinds (R-AR) is assassinated by Democrat terrorists who organized as the Ku Klux Klan
November 3, 1868 Republican Ulysses Grant defeats Democrat Horatio Seymour in presidential election; Seymour had denounced Emancipation Proclamation
December 10, 1869 Republican Gov. John Campbell of Wyoming Territory signs FIRST-in-nation law granting women right to vote and to hold public office
February 3, 1870 After passing House with 98% Republican support and 97% Democrat opposition, Republicans’ 15th Amendment is ratified, granting vote to all Americans regardless of race
May 19, 1870 African-American John Langston, law professor and future Republican Congressman from Virginia, delivers influential speech supporting President Ulysses Grant’s civil rights policies
May 31, 1870 President U.S. Grant signs Republicans’ Enforcement Act, providing stiff penalties for depriving any American’s civil rights
June 22, 1870 Republican Congress creates U.S. Department of Justice, to safeguard the civil rights of African-Americans against Democrats in the South
September 6, 1870 Women vote in Wyoming, in FIRST election after women’s suffrage signed into law by Republican Gov. John Campbell
February 28, 1871 Republican Congress passes Enforcement Act providing federal protection for African-American voters
March 22, 1871 Spartansburg Republican newspaper denounces Ku Klux Klan campaign to eradicate the Republican Party in South Carolina
April 20, 1871 Republican Congress enacts the Ku Klux Klan Act, outlawing Democratic Party-affiliated terrorist groups which oppressed African-Americans
October 10, 1871 Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands
October 18, 1871 After violence against Republicans in South Carolina, President Ulysses Grant deploys U.S. troops to combat Democrat terrorists who formed the Ku Klux Klan
November 18, 1872 Susan B. Anthony arrested for voting, after boasting to Elizabeth Cady Stanton that she voted for “the Republican ticket, straight”
January 17, 1874 Armed Democrats seize Texas state government, ending Republican efforts to racially integrate government
September 14, 1874 Democrat white supremacists seize Louisiana statehouse in attempt to overthrow racially-integrated administration of Republican Governor William Kellogg; 27 killed
March 1, 1875 Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition
September 20, 1876 Former state Attorney General Robert Ingersoll (R-IL) tells veterans: “Every man that loved slavery better than liberty was a Democrat… I am a Republican because it is the only free party that ever existed”
January 10, 1878 U.S. Senator Aaron Sargent (R-CA) introduces Susan B. Anthony amendment for women’s suffrage; Democrat-controlled Senate defeated it 4 times before election of Republican House and Senate guaranteed its approval in 1919
July 14, 1884 Republicans criticize Democratic Party’s nomination of racist U.S. Senator Thomas Hendricks (D-IN) for vice president; he had voted against the 13th Amendment banning slavery
August 30, 1890 Republican President Benjamin Harrison signs legislation by U.S. Senator Justin Morrill (R-VT) making African-Americans eligible for land-grant colleges in the South
June 7, 1892 In a FIRST for a major U.S. political party, two women – Theresa Jenkins and Cora Carleton – attend Republican National Convention in an official capacity, as alternate delegates
February 8, 1894 Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote
December 11, 1895 African-American Republican and former U.S. Rep. Thomas Miller (R-SC) denounces new state constitution written to disenfranchise African-Americans
May 18, 1896 Republican Justice John Marshall Harlan, dissenting from Supreme Court’s notorious Plessy v. Ferguson “separate but equal” decision, declares: “Our Constitution is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens”
December 31, 1898 Republican Theodore Roosevelt becomes Governor of New York; in 1900, he outlawed racial segregation in New York public schools
May 24, 1900 Republicans vote no in referendum for constitutional convention in Virginia, designed to create a new state constitution disenfranchising African-Americans
January 15, 1901 Republican Booker T. Washington protests Alabama Democratic Party’s refusal to permit voting by African-Americans
October 16, 1901 President Theodore Roosevelt invites Booker T. Washington to dine at White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country
May 29, 1902 Virginia Democrats implement new state constitution, condemned by Republicans as illegal, reducing African-American voter registration by 86%
February 12, 1909 On 100th anniversary of Abraham Lincoln’s birth, African-American Republicans and women’s suffragists Ida Wells and Mary Terrell co-found the NAACP
June 18, 1912 African-American Robert Church, founder of Lincoln Leagues to register black voters in Tennessee, attends 1912 Republican National Convention as delegate; eventually serves as delegate at 8 conventions
August 1, 1916 Republican presidential candidate Charles Evans Hughes, former New York Governor and U.S. Supreme Court Justice, endorses women’s suffrage constitutional amendment; he would become Secretary of State and Chief Justice
May 21, 1919 Republican House passes constitutional amendment granting women the vote with 85% of Republicans in favor, but only 54% of Democrats; in Senate, 80% of Republicans would vote yes, but almost half of Democrats no
April 18, 1920 Minnesota’s FIRST-in-the-nation anti-lynching law, promoted by African-American Republican Nellie Francis, signed by Republican Gov. Jacob Preus
August 18, 1920 Republican-authored 19th Amendment, giving women the vote, becomes part of Constitution; 26 of the 36 states to ratify had Republican-controlled legislatures
January 26, 1922 House passes bill authored by U.S. Rep. Leonidas Dyer (R-MO) making lynching a federal crime; Senate Democrats block it with filibuster
June 2, 1924 Republican President Calvin Coolidge signs bill passed by Republican Congress granting U.S. citizenship to all Native Americans
October 3, 1924 Republicans denounce three-time Democrat presidential nominee William Jennings Bryan for defending the Ku Klux Klan at 1924 Democratic National Convention
December 8, 1924 Democratic presidential candidate John W. Davis argues in favor of “separate but equal”
June 12, 1929 First Lady Lou Hoover invites wife of U.S. Rep. Oscar De Priest (R-IL), an African-American, to tea at the White House, sparking protests by Democrats across the country
August 17, 1937 Republicans organize opposition to former Ku Klux Klansman and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black, appointed to U.S. Supreme Court by FDR; his Klan background was hidden until after confirmation
June 24, 1940 Republican Party platform calls for integration of the armed forces; for the balance of his terms in office, FDR refuses to order it
October 20, 1942 60 prominent African-Americans issue Durham Manifesto, calling on southern Democrats to abolish their all-white primaries
April 3, 1944 U.S. Supreme Court strikes down Texas Democratic Party’s “whites only” primary election system
August 8, 1945 Republicans condemn Harry Truman’s surprise use of the atomic bomb in Japan. The whining and criticism goes on for years. It begins two days after the Hiroshima bombing, when former Republican President Herbert Hoover writes to a friend that “[t]he use of the atomic bomb, with its indiscriminate killing of women and children, revolts my soul.”
February 18, 1946 Appointed by Republican President Calvin Coolidge, federal judge Paul McCormick ends segregation of Mexican-American children in California public schools
July 11, 1952 Republican Party platform condemns “duplicity and insincerity” of Democrats in racial matters
September 30, 1953 Earl Warren, California’s three-term Republican Governor and 1948 Republican vice presidential nominee, nominated to be Chief Justice; wrote landmark decision in Brown v. Board of Education
December 8, 1953 Eisenhower administration Asst. Attorney General Lee Rankin argues for plaintiffs in Brown v. Board of Education
May 17, 1954 Chief Justice Earl Warren, three-term Republican Governor (CA) and Republican vice presidential nominee in 1948, wins unanimous support of Supreme Court for school desegregation in Brown v. Board of Education
November 25, 1955 Eisenhower administration bans racial segregation of interstate bus travel
March 12, 1956 Ninety-seven Democrats in Congress condemn Supreme Court’s decision in Brown v. Board of Education, and pledge to continue segregation
June 5, 1956 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson rules in favor of Rosa Parks in decision striking down “blacks in the back of the bus” law
October 19, 1956 On campaign trail, Vice President Richard Nixon vows: “American boys and girls shall sit, side by side, at any school – public or private – with no regard paid to the color of their skin. Segregation, discrimination, and prejudice have no place in America”
November 6, 1956 African-American civil rights leaders Martin Luther King and Ralph Abernathy vote for Republican Dwight Eisenhower for President
September 9, 1957 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republican Party’s 1957 Civil Rights Act
September 24, 1957 Sparking criticism from Democrats such as Senators John Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson, President Dwight Eisenhower deploys the 82nd Airborne Division to Little Rock, AR to force Democrat Governor Orval Faubus to integrate public schools
June 23, 1958 President Dwight Eisenhower meets with Martin Luther King and other African-American leaders to discuss plans to advance civil rights
February 4, 1959 President Eisenhower informs Republican leaders of his plan to introduce 1960 Civil Rights Act, despite staunch opposition from many Democrats
May 6, 1960 President Dwight Eisenhower signs Republicans’ Civil Rights Act of 1960, overcoming 125-hour, around-the-clock filibuster by 18 Senate Democrats
July 27, 1960 At Republican National Convention, Vice President and eventual presidential nominee Richard Nixon insists on strong civil rights plank in platform
May 2, 1963 Republicans condemn Democrat sheriff of Birmingham, AL for arresting over 2,000 African-American schoolchildren marching for their civil rights
June 1, 1963 Democrat Governor George Wallace announces defiance of court order issued by Republican federal judge Frank Johnson to integrate University of Alabama
September 29, 1963 Gov. George Wallace (D-AL) defies order by U.S. District Judge Frank Johnson, appointed by President Dwight Eisenhower, to integrate Tuskegee High School
June 9, 1964 Republicans condemn 14-hour filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act by U.S. Senator and former Ku Klux Klansman Robert Byrd (D-WV), who still serves in the Senate
June 10, 1964 Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) criticizes Democrat filibuster against 1964 Civil Rights Act, calls on Democrats to stop opposing racial equality
The Civil Rights Act of 1964 was introduced and approved by a staggering majority of Republicans in the Senate. The Act was opposed by most southern Democrat senators, several of whom were proud segregationists—one of them being Al Gore Sr. Democrat President Lyndon B. Johnson relied on Illinois Senator Everett Dirkson, the Republican leader from Illinois, to get the Act passed.
June 20, 1964 The Chicago Defender, renowned African-American newspaper, praises Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) for leading passage of 1964 Civil Rights Act
March 7, 1965 Police under the command of Democrat Governor George Wallace attack African-Americans demonstrating for voting rights in Selma, AL
March 21, 1965 Republican federal judge Frank Johnson authorizes Martin Luther King’s protest march from Selma to Montgomery, overruling Democrat Governor George Wallace
August 4, 1965 Senate Republican Leader Everett Dirksen (R-IL) overcomes Democrat attempts to block 1965 Voting Rights Act; 94% of Senate Republicans vote for landmark civil right legislation, while 27% of Democrats oppose
August 6, 1965 Voting Rights Act of 1965, abolishing literacy tests and other measures devised by Democrats to prevent African-Americans from voting, signed into law; higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats vote in favor
July 8, 1970 In special message to Congress, President Richard Nixon calls for reversal of policy of forced termination of Native American rights and benefits
September 17, 1971 Former Ku Klux Klan member and Democrat U.S. Senator Hugo Black (D-AL) retires from U.S. Supreme Court; appointed by FDR in 1937, he had defended Klansmen for racial murders
February 19, 1976 President Gerald Ford formally rescinds President Franklin Roosevelt’s notorious Executive Order authorizing internment of over 120,000 Japanese-Americans during WWII
September 15, 1981 President Ronald Reagan establishes the White House Initiative on Historically Black Colleges and Universities, to increase African-American participation in federal education programs
June 29, 1982 President Ronald Reagan signs 25-year extension of 1965 Voting Rights Act
August 10, 1988 President Ronald Reagan signs Civil Liberties Act of 1988, compensating Japanese-Americans for deprivation of civil rights and property during World War II internment ordered by FDR
November 21, 1991 President George H. W. Bush signs Civil Rights Act of 1991 to strengthen federal civil rights legislation
August 20, 1996 Bill authored by U.S. Rep. Susan Molinari (R-NY) to prohibit racial discrimination in adoptions, part of Republicans’ Contract With America, becomes law
April 26, 1999 Legislation authored by U.S. Senator Spencer Abraham (R-MI) awarding Congressional Gold Medal to civil rights pioneer Rosa Parks is transmitted to President
January 25, 2001 U.S. Senate Republican Policy Committee declares school choice to be “Educational Emancipation”
March 19, 2003 Republican U.S. Representatives of Hispanic and Portuguese descent form Congressional Hispanic Conference
May 23, 2003 U.S. Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS) introduces bill to establish National Museum of African American History and Culture
February 26, 2004 Hispanic Republican U.S. Rep. Henry Bonilla (R-TX) condemns racist comments by U.S. Rep. Corrine Brown (D-FL); she had called Asst. Secretary of State Roger Noriega and several Hispanic Congressmen “a bunch of white men…you all look alike to me”
41. Rana Quijotesca | July 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
Here is the link again.
Here’s another, as promised…
And you never answered my question, Mark– If you were a racist that wanted to preserve a positive legacy in a time where racism isn’t popular, would you publicly admit to being racist? Would you lie about it?
Actions always speak louder than words.
42. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 5th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
40. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
NIP
actually it was your mother, she is such a slut, very talented.
So now we can also add Necrofiliac to your list of accomplishments? My mother has been dead for 20 years and when she was alive she’d never have looked twice at a piece of trash like you. Only in you dreams jackoff.
43. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
nip= vicoden&cocain banned poster
>>>Most of what I gave you is in the public record. His stance on denying funding for AIDS research, >>>
YOU sure seem fixated on Jesse’s opposition on AIDS research…..Coincidence ?
44. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
to bad you didnt go to hell with her, OH wait you did or at least you work there…….say hi to her for me
45. Fredrick Schwartz | July 5th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
31. Mark Noonan | July 5th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
Even if that were true? You know Noonan the mark of being an adult is being able to deal with the knowledge that every little thing you believe isn’t necessarily correct or even acceptable to others. There’s much more proof of Helms’ racism and divisiveness peppered all across Lexis/Nexus.
Please tell me which one of those quotes that Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche offered is a falsehood. Feel free to point me in the right direction with a link or the name of a blog or a news report that shows what they posted as less than credible.
If I’m not qualified to call Helms a bigot or a racist or a divider, if I don’t have that right because I am a “librul” then who does Noonan? I’d for once like to know who does among the living population have the right to judge men on their words and deeds. Seems to me the only people qualified to you are either in the Vatican or judges that strike down a woman’s right to choose. And to think this kind of nonsense was nearly the basis for running the country permanently by hijacking the judicial branch after a decade or so of dominating the executive and legislative branches.
You had the fear inspiring patriotic terror attack, the control of Congress and the Presidency and all that came out of this version of Conservatism were 4100 needless deaths, the use of the murder of 3000 Americans as a marketing slogan for GOP campaigns, a botched war that has put Iranians in the drivers seat to become the dominant force in the Middle East and last but not least the least popular president in the last 60 Terran years. Way to go fellas you really showed ‘em!
Meanwhile three states have effective awakened from the 13th century dynamics of religion as a mass control to allow same sex marriages with surely more to follow their recognition of the right to pursue happiness.
And that whole apologia about helms you really are of the lowest sort of character to stoop that low the man was clearly a racist, a bigot and a homophobe. Would you walk into work and tell your boss “I think Jesse Helms was a great man?” Somehow Noonan I seriously doubt that you would, but of course the “workspace” and politics should never mix because that threatens your “way of life.” Yet you would like to see the dewy tumescence of your Scripture shoved down the throat of every American citizen whether it is their belief or not.
If that coupled with how little you think of the humanity and intellect of liberals isn’t the very essence of fascism then I don’t know what the hell is.
Since you need proof from your own side here’s some from Lew Rockwell a Catholic Libertarian’s site who’s hired a blogger who admired Jesse Helms bigotry as much as you have.
46. Sarah Bloch | July 5th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
38. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Oh my! I had no idea that the Democratic Party was so racist Fmr Marine.
This means that all those bad things that the Democrats did to minorities in those days are still in their hearts today then. I can’t imagine anything worse than that because that means all white Democrats are racist pigs! they just want black votes they are liars and crooks.
Well not exactly . . .
If you follow that line of reasoning then all Southern Baptists are bigots because the Southern Baptist Convention was invented because white racist churces did not want to accept that the industry of slavery was ANTI-CHRISTIAN.
Do we need to go North and talk about how the AME was formed because having blacks stand in the back of the church was no longer comfortable for white Methodists?
No, I didn’t think so.
47. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
FP
in case ya missed this yesterday
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12. FmrMarine | July 4th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
freddyputz
>>>Let’s see on the issue of freedom and religion Fmr Marine I’m a Jew.>>>
Gee ya think? Fredrick Schwartz from Brooklyn New Yaaaaark? LOL
any way freddy ole boy-Have a Happy fourth,
PS no matter what…..Thanks for serving OUR country.
Have a bagel and blitz on me! :)
48. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 4:22 pm
sarabletch
What has the all hands on board, for the pitchforkers from hell gone out?
Glad to see ALL the lunitics here robo posting.
it is amazing the total blindness of you marxists or maybe it is your plan.
49. Fredrick Schwartz | July 5th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
49. FmrMarine | July 5th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
And thank you for your service as well you crazy Confederate transplant.
50. CanadianObserver | July 5th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
Why any self-respecting Republican would want to align themselves with Mr. Helms is indeed a mystery.
Yet here we have people who have constantly claimed to be God-fearing American-style Christians, defending and even praising his life’s ‘contributions’.
FmrMarine has gone to great lengths to prove that it is the Democratic party that has perpetuated racism in America so when a Republican shows those same nasty traits, why support it?
I don’t get it.
51. Ricorun | July 5th, 2008 at 7:11 pm
God speed Jesse Helms.
The man is dead — all of him, both his public personna and that which he really was. And to all his detractors
He must now answer to his Maker, and regardless of what I thought (or think) about his publc legacy, or knew about his personal legacy, I will say a prayer for him. I will also say a prayer for how much things have changed since his heyday. Things that remain alive — some of which I consider good, some not. But none of which I consider myself, or anyone else on this earth, the final arbiter.
God speed Jesse Helms. And with God’s grace, may some of the issues you held dear become more irrelevant in the future. Likewise with God’s grace, may some of the issues you held dear become more relevant in the future.
Jesse Helms was, as are we all, a human being. He may have been more complicated than most, but not, to my mind, anywhere close to the most dishonest. Much less so, IMO. He always spoke his mind. For that I applaud him.
That being said, perhaps the most encouraging thing to note on the event of his death is how much things have changed. That may or may not have anything to do with those who spoke out against him, or the ideas which he espoused in general, but does it matter? Things have changed. A few to Mr. Helms’ liking, many not. But the fact remains, these things need to be vigorously debated. At least IMO.
52. Carlton Pryor, Lead Economist, TED-OG | July 5th, 2008 at 10:43 pm
Deleted - off topic.
53. Fredrick Schwartz | July 5th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Deleted - off topic.
54. Mark Noonan | July 6th, 2008 at 1:41 am
NiP,
And, invariably I find, the “public record” about Helms is reports of people reporting what someone else said or heard - its an old leftist trick, by the way, to plant a lie in an obscure media outlet and then have a friendly member of the MSM pick it up…so, the slur in “Workers Daily” (or some such lefty rag) is now something in the New York Times, of what have you.
I’m sure Helms had a lot of things wrong with him, as we all do - but there is no evidence to justify the hatred you entirely unreasonably hold for him.
55. Mark Noonan | July 6th, 2008 at 1:50 am
Rana,
Once again, all you’ve got it reports about reports…there’s a word for that: “hearsay”. You are prepared to hate a man based on what others say about him rather than based on any first hand information available about him.
56. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 6th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Mark-
“hearsay”.
“Invariably I find, the “public record” about Helms is reports of people reporting what someone else said or heard”
LMAO!! You are quite hopeless Mark. His voting record IS the public record. Check it out.
57. Cooldown | July 6th, 2008 at 7:39 am
- but there is no evidence to justify the hatred you entirely unreasonably hold for him.Mark Noonan | July 6th, 2008 at 1:41 am
As usual you miss the point. There is no hate for the man, just disgust. When he had it in his power to make lives better he let his racist and bigot beliefs cloud his thinking.
For those that thought the Clinton years were good, they would have been even better had Helms not been such an obstructionist at every turn. Now we read threads that he gave up his bigoted and racist ways later in life. Well that is good for him as he meets his maker, but for me I ask where was he as a young Senator when he had the opportunity to make lives better for society as a whole?
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58. Pain | July 6th, 2008 at 8:58 am
15. Jeremiah | July 4th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
Yes, We can jeremiah because Billy Graham is an anti-Semite of the worst order being that he smile and wept and called millions to the altar for jhis own personal profit while conspiring with Nixon who worried that Jews were taking over the country.
59. Tractatus | July 6th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
Once again, all you’ve got it reports about reports…there’s a word for that: “hearsay”. You are prepared to hate a man based on what others say about him rather than based on any first hand information available about him.
Let em guess–repeating his racist quotes would be “slander,” then right?
Face it, Noonan–the man was horrendously bigoted, and he was loud and proud about it. Your hysterical attempts to whitewash that aspect of him simply shows you to be a tool–and not a particularly useful one, at that.
60. Mark Noonan | July 6th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
NiP,
His voting record? Of course I know his voting record (in general), but what you are doing is hating him because he’s allegedly a racist, sexist, homophic, etc, etc, etc…you’ll have to find some evidence of that. Voting against certain AIDS funding doesn’t make you a homophobe. Voting against MLK Day doesn’t make you a racist. Voting against ERA doesn’t make you a sexist. You’ll have to find actual evidence that Jesse Helms, himself, stated clearly racist, sexist and/or homophobic views - and only then will you be able to prove your contention.
61. Mark Noonan | July 6th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Tract,
Couldn’t find any original sources, could ya?
62. Nietzsche-Is-Pietzsche | July 6th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Mark-
“There is not one single case of AIDS in this country that cannot be traced in origin to sodomy.” Helms
Not only is that statement homophobic it’s factually incorrect and just outright stupid.
63. CanadianObserver | July 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Voting against certain AIDS funding doesn’t make you a homophobe. Voting against MLK Day doesn’t make you a racist. Voting against ERA doesn’t make you a sexist.
60. Mark Noonan | July 6th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
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Perhaps you could enlighten us, Mark, as to why Mr. Helms voted no on these issues. I, for one, am open to hear his
reasons for doing so.
64. FmrMarine | July 6th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
frog;
NO and I mean NO explanation is owed to a FOREIGNER about a US Senator or his politics.
He is a REPRESENTATIVE of the State that elected him.
65. CanadianObserver | July 6th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
He is a REPRESENTATIVE of the State that elected him.
64. FmrMarine | July 6th, 2008 at 5:21 pm
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OK, FmrMarine, I now understand. Mr. Helms was only voting the will of the good folks from North Carolina. He was only representing their wishes and interests.
No need to respond, Mark, FmrMarine has answered my query.
66. Jeremiah | July 6th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Hey Mark,
What happened to my last comment? It was there, but now it seems to be missing…
Not make the grade or soemthing?
67. moondancer | July 7th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
He was a vicious hatemonger. He was emblematic of the racist strategy of the GOP since Nixon.
He shared similar values with Reagan, that is appeal to the basest instincts of whites by divisive race-baiting. He will not be missed by humans, only miscreants.