Europeans Moslems can’t seem to decide if gays should be executed, or not; rather run of the mill stuff for Moslems these days, but the real problem is how the government of Norway reacts:
For a case in point, I will refer the reader to an episode I’ve mentioned previously in this space — an Oslo debate last November at which the deputy chairman of Norway’s Islamic Council, Asghar Ali, refused to reject the death penalty for gays. When Senaid Kobilica, the head of the Islamic Council (which represents 60,000 Muslims), was asked where he stood on the question, he replied that he couldn’t give a definitive answer until he got a ruling from the European Fatwa Council. This week it was reported that he’s still waiting…
…What’s most chilling about all this, however, is not the positions of these Muslim leaders but the reactions of the Norwegian establishment. Or, one should say, the lack of reaction.
Consider this. After last November’s debate, it emerged that Asghar Ali not only was deputy chairman of the Islamic Council but was also on the board of the Oslo Arbeidersamfunn, the largest and most influential association within Norway’s ruling Labor Party. Asked about Ali’s views, the head of the Oslo Arbeidersamfunn, Anne Cathrine Berger, lamented that some people “can’t see the difference between a board member’s views and the organization’s views.” Despite scattered calls for his dismissal, Ali remained on the board. (When a new board election was held in February, Ali chose not to run again.)
That’s not all: Ali is, in addition, secretary of the 37,000-member Electricians’ and IT Workers’ Union…
…As for the Norwegian government, there has been no serious effort, as far as I know, to rescind from the Islamic Council its half million kroner a year in state support.
Does anyone in Europe realise that these peoples’ intentions are serious? They do propose to out-breed and out-immigrate non-Moslems and eventually take over and force through Islamic law. While European governments put the final touches on gay marriage the Islamists look forward to the day when they can hang all the gay people – the decision Europe made after World War Two to entirely secularise and welfarise Europe has proven disasterous on all levels, but the worst part of it seems to be that the will to live has gone out of the European population (or is it that during two world wars the best and bravest sacrificed themselves so much that there wasn’t enough physical strength to continue?).
There still is a living remnant in Europe – that small segment of the population which refused to surrender its Christian European identity. What remains to be seen is whether this remnant will be able to take over from dying secularism before the Islamists do. And we’ll also find out whether the United States will have to come to Europe’s rescue, again.
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awe, sounds like someones jealous…
48. js | August 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
the only thing for sure about canuks are that they keep following americans…wwi…wwii…vietnam…
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Sorry to burst your bubble, js, but Canada was fighting WWII before the U.S. joined us and the other allies. And Canada never did follow the U.S. into the Vietnam debacle.
You need to stop getting your facts from Ms. Coulter. She is not the brightest bulb on the block nor the most reliable source.
Christians & Jewish martyrs say; “I will die for what I believe”.
A Muslim martyr says; “you will die for what I believe”….
I’ve helped you out above js. 95% of people who practice both faiths are not martyrs and do not want to fight in a holy war or Jihad.
Be honest, your an intolerant little man aren’t you
46. Some Assembly Required
“Islam itself is an extremely peaceful religion”
Over the last 1400 years, 270 million non-believers were murdered by Muslim jihadists. Not to defend thier homes, but to force Islam upon every population that Islam ever came into contact with.
Islam destroyed the Christian Middle East and Christian North Africa. It is estimated that upwards of 60-80 million Christians were slaughtered during this conquest.
Also, half the Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80-100 million Hindus murdered.
Islamic jihad also destroyed over 10 million Buddhists.
In other words, Islam is a killing machine.
And you call that Peaceful?
you got your head up your duff again canuk, but thats normal…canadians did follow the us into vietnam…as peacekeepers…what a joke that was…and wwII…canada was still a part of her majesties imperial England….and followed England by 5 days in a declaration of war…oh sorry, they followed the Brits then…but…oh…they built planes for the Brits, and trained pilots for the Brits…ya…they just followed….even so…merchant shipping was under attack…
what happened when they tried to lead?
“Tactically, it was an almost complete failure.”(Lotz 104) In the end, it was calculated that 1946 troops were captured, 2210 escaped, and 907 died while the Germans suffered only 333 casualties, 121 of which died.
JS
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/18/AR2007041802591.html
Some Assembly Required
“Be honest, your an intolerant little man aren’t you”
thats not quite true is it? then again, you always have to draw false conclusions to hide behind your lies and selfish egotistical blunders…you resemble a one legged guy in a butt kicking contest on his way to a gun fight with a butter knife…
quite comical, honestly
its right on target FmrMarine
just like the millions of Christians in Sudan that are dead, enslaved or were forced to convert to stay alive….
islam is a cancer, not a religion, and its system of governance is total, you either submit, or die.
JS
ahh yes the religion of pieces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFTGNGja6vI
js writes:
“islam is a cancer, not a religion, and its system of governance is total, you either submit, or die.”
So, I guess we have no chance in maintaining a democratic Iraq seeing as the vast majority of its populace practices islam.
I wish we had your insight before we invaded.
You dig up a couple of articles and clips on the internet and think you have proved some major point that Islam is devil worship. Get real. There are fundamentalists of all shapes sizes colors and species. To link each faith with such people is preposterous. It’s the equivalent of saying all American’s blow up buildings with day cares in them because McVeigh did. Or all Canadians cut off each others heads because one man did on a Grey Hound bus. Search through all the crimes ‘Christians’ have done. Shoot, in the 50’s white Christan’s were performing lynches on black men because they thought they were superior in God’s eyes. Don’t you get it, it’s just a pi$$ing contest. My God, your God, his God, her God. Which God is right and just? They all preach the same underlining principles of being good to one another. If you really were ‘Christian’s’ you would accept and acknowledge this. Just true believers of Islam do.
Did you ever stop to think maybe if you didn’t shove your religion on other people, or look down on them because you go to church on sunday maybe there wouldn’t be such a problem. Maybe if you didn’t look at a Muslim and tell them their God doesn’t exist we’d have less of a problem with them.
It’s called Tolerance. Acceptance. Decency. Understanding. You go off on me js, because apparently in calling you intolerant I struck a nerve. It’s ok, first part is admitting. You became hostile because deep down you know it rings true. People are always the most defensive when they feel they are exposed.
Fmr, you just come here to get your rocks off and get people arguing. simple as that. I really have a hard time believing you believe even a quarter of what you say. You just throw out whatever possible stereotype of slur you can think of to get a response out of someone. You certainly must lead a very interesting life to come here for some excitement.
It’s all gravy in the end. The only statistic that truly matters is simple. It’s one thats unavoidable and irrefutable. 10 out of every 10 human beings die!
js | August 11th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
“the only thing for sure about canuks are that they keep following americans…wwi…wwii…vietnam”
Just to add to CO’s rebutal, you ignorant ass.
We entered WWI soon after it started in 1914, the USA joined in 1917, johnny-come-latelys though welcomed never the less. Canadians were considered shock troops, feared and respected by the Germans.
As for WWII, The USA waited until they got creamed at Pearl Harbour in Dec 1941 before waking up to the danger.
–True we were part of the imperial British empire for WW1 but by WWII, we were fully independent and joined out of loyalty to the mother country recognizing the nazi evil for what it was. I recall reading how some American corporations traded with the Germans in the early war years.
I don’t know what defeat the Canadian forces suffered that you are referring to but we had our setbacks for sure(Dieppe) but over all we have a proud record in that war. And the American forces did not get a bloody nose at times? Yeah, right!
You left out the Korean War. We joined the UN sanctioned effort though certainly not to the degree the US did. Bloodied American noses there with the war ending in a stalemate.
And Vietnam, yeah, that was a fine victory for the USA. BWAH WAH WAH.
What does the ‘j’ in ‘js’ stand for? Must be ‘jerk’
A nuggent of wisdom from FmrMarine:
“…by the way ill be enjoying the news in a few years when you Kanuck homos are being beheaded in the square under your newfound sharia law! enjoy marxism, as soon it will be replaced by islam”
FmrMarine, you’re funny. As funny as Jeremiah. This place needs more comic relief. Thanks.
“you resemble a one legged guy in a butt kicking contest on his way to a gun fight with a butter knife…”
If I have one leg and I’m in a butt kicking contest how would I possibly be on my way to a gun fight? Man, that was as weak as FakeMarines momma joke earlier. (I ragged on his sister, then he called her my mother… figure that one out.)
The only statistic that truly matters is simple. It’s one thats unavoidable and irrefutable. 10 out of every 10 human beings die!–SAR.
SAR,
Yes, and that’s an important point, and really not to be taken so lightly a tone as you’ve given it.
The end, is just the beginning….see this … (Y) We normally associate that as a sign of peace…’Peace, dude’ Like in the hippie days. Well, take just moment and think of it as forks in the road, and as you get closer the forks, you must make a choice, ‘Which way do I want to go?’ All you have to do is remember is this – Jesus said, ‘It’s not My will that any should perish, but that all would come to repentance.’ Now, whether you choose to accept God’s love and forgiveness and ask Jesus to come into your heart is entirely up to you…you are free to do whatever it is you choose to do. God loves you, and has given you a free gift.
That’s what the Muslims are missing, and even though we are pre-destined to die, I don’t anyone should have to die and have their life shortened by some crazies who followed a fanatical prophet (Muhammad) that is burning in Hell right now.
There is a lot of confusion among the world’s Christian community as well, to many people, they will take any little thing and try to convince others that this or that is the “mark of the beast”; but it just simply cannot be gone about that way, because it winds up in a lot of hatred toward each other on many accounts. This confusion is a tactic of Satan, and he uses it in the form of Secularism.
If you truly want to know what the ‘Mark of the Beast’ is, just think of it in a personal way.
If I’m not living according to what God’s Word tells me, and I just live however I want to…then I have the ‘Mark of the Beast’ written on my forehead, I am selected as one of Satan’s followers, and thus, not written in the ‘Lamb’s Book of Life’.
That’s how you know!
You see, the Islamists think it’s a literal, physical, flesh and blood battle, but if we read God’s Word we can find that that just simply is not the case…because it opposes the permeable nature “fear of the Sword’ which is Islam.
What does the Bible say? ‘Fear not that which can kill the body, but what can kill both soul and body is hell.’ And that says, IN THIS LIFE, if we are not striving to do the will of our heavenly Father, then we will give an account for those deeds done while still in the body. Talk about fear, when we stand before the Almighty Judge. People talk “Atheism” now, but there will be none on that Day. “Every knee shall bow, and every tongue confess, that, yes indeed…Jesus is LORD!’
Is He Lord of your life?
Jeremiah, I just ignored most of your post after reading the first couple lines. I am not religious, I do not, well, I’m not closed to believing in God, I’m just not set in being told how, why or for what purpose to worship him/her/it. As for the afterlife, thats not what this thread is about and though I’d love to get into some form of metaphysical debate with you just for the simple face of blowing your tiny little mind, I differ.
Instead I will ask you one simple question. Exactly how many times have you died to garnish such knowledge? My point stands.
Instead I will ask you one simple question. Exactly how many times have you died to garnish such knowledge? My point stands.–SAR.
Just once…’Dead to sin, and alive in Christ.’
You see, we can change our minds a hundred thousand times in the here and now if we want, but when we lay this body down with our last breath, that’s it, no more chances…so I take it on faith, you see. I know Jesus loves me, because of what He done for me, and I want to do my best to show that I accept His free gift, and want to follow Him.
So many people say, “Christian Salvation is not free” … Well, you’re wrong, it is free, because God enabled you with a choice, knowing that you have a choice … He gave you the ultimate sacrifice -FREE!
So, we will either choose to be with God or be without Him.
ugh, no jeremiah. Died as in your heart stops, no brain functions, death certificate, buried, the whole nine yards. If you have not, you, nor I, nor anyone else really knows anything about anything after death. It’s all just theory and imagination in an attempt to shield ourselves from the possibility of nothingness.
Which brings me back to my original point, Islam / Christianity is all gravy. In the End everyone dies. From the riches kings to the poorest laborers. From the Pope to the Pegan. Religion will not save you from death. It’s all just a story to shield ourselves from the possibility of nothingness. You may choose to believe, you may not. Thats up to the individual, but to claim one is better than the other is preposterous. This is even without considering history and underlining principles of both.
What I am speaking to is the true form of religion, all religions. The Do unto others, don’t steal, love and be loved stuff. Not the mixed up turd furgeson brand of faith some people lump into the mix.
The Do unto others, don’t steal, love and be loved stuff.–SAR.
There’s only one place that those traits can come from, and it is not from within us, but from God…Agape Love – Godly Love.
Which brings me back to my original point, Islam / Christianity is all gravy.
This is the Secular message that creates anarchy, just as the argument that there is “No right and wrong” and “No one knows the truth” that is the excuse that the world creates in order that they may feel no conviction in the sin that they wish to participate in, in other words they love the world and all the nastiness that goes with it….this is the Eros love – Worldly, Physical love, which is Paganism of sorts…love or satisfaciton in the feelings of the world, in material things. It is confined to this world and will not go outside it, because flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of heaven.
SAR, this quote from America’s greatest humorist truly sums up our favorite religious fundamentalist, in a nutshell:
I cannot prove to him that he is insane, because you never can prove anything to a lunatic — for that is a part of his insanity and the evidence of it.
-Mark Twain
there you go again canuk, misrepresenting the truth….
canada, as a colony and was induced into wwi by the brittish declaration of war…they didnt do anything of thier own accord…same as every other war…
and face it…you really put down a lot of words that dont say much, canada has yet to initiate action on its own…bloody nose…you mean the failure to be able to capitalize when put into a leadership possition? do you thing thats why they waited 5 days to enter ww2? because they didnt want it to appear that they were trying to take the lead in any matter involving liberty and freedom and justice? LOL….face it canuk..you are not much more than an opinionated imp with a revisionist view of canadian “glory”….
any ya, a one legged guy in a butt kicking contest tries to hop along as fast as fast can be….on his way to a gun fight witha butter knife, eh? then again…your imagination is a bit dull if ya cant picture that…its pretty darn funny!!
JS,
Did you even bother to read my post? When did I say that “…the europeans love the muslims enough to hand over thier independence and future without a shot being fired…”? Oh, that’s right, never!
All I said was the nationalist movements in Europe aren’t as socially conservative as the hard right (i.e people like you) are here. The founder of the modern Dutch nationalist movement was openly gay.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn
It makes sense that someone who is gay, or likes going to nude beaches, or enjoys a glass of wine, or likes to dance, or whatever would not be thrilled with the idea of a violebt regressive immigrant Moslem culture that didn’t want to assimilate. But you just can’t your head around the idea that someone who is patriotic could also not be a book-burning prude who can’t stand the idea of other people not having fun.
69. Jonathan | August 12th, 2008 at 2:32 am
Agreed, though I always thought Huxley was spot on WRT religion.
“The Gods are just. No doubt. But their code of law is dictated, in the last resort, by the people who organize society; providence takes its cue from men.” – Aldous Huxley
actually jay…the shallow nature of your idea’s really dont impress me…if you stand in the light and look into the darkness…you see things quite clearly…but if you stand in the darkness with no light…you are pretty much left to guess whats out there…islam is not a judeo christian religion…and mohammad was not a prophet of God…i very much weigh this whole thing in a solid state of knowledge and understanding of these spiritual things…you can not get good fruit from a bad tree…islam is a bad tree…there is no light in mohammad or the koran nor can you hope to find any peace in the religion of the warlord of arabia…
canuckGUY;
>>>What does the ‘j’ in ‘js’ stand for? Must be ‘jerk’>>>
kanada is full of pantywaist “GUYS”, and girlymen.
surely you live up to your name.
you can not get good fruit from a bad tree…islam is a bad tree…there is no light in mohammad or the koran nor can you hope to find any peace in the religion of the warlord of arabia…
75. js | August 12th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
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One more ignorant example of glorifying one religion while defiling another.
This juvenile insistence on “my God is better than your God” is a pathetic attempt at appearing to be superior to hide feelings of inferiority.
Those who are secure in their spirituality have no need for this nonsense.
Those who are secure in their spirituality have no need for this nonsense. CO
And those who are comfortable with their sexuality rarely consider gay rights an issue. Interesting how that works.
there goes the stooge patrol again…two mental midgets sitting on a log comparing stupidity….you ever get to wonder why they bother getting back up because they always fall over…
its pretty simple to see CO…you dont know God…because if you did…you could never make such an ignorant statement…and sar…well…sar and aids are part of the same disease co has…being strong enough to stand up for the truth just isnt a trait either one of them emulate or respects…
but then…whattaya expect from stooges?
78. js | August 13th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Bravo js, really. SARS was the disease that hit Toronto very hard. Well done. I’m sure you haven’t alienated anyone at all with your implcation that aids is only a disease among homosexuals either. Been to Africa lately?
Whats the matter js, have we made you stop and question your position in life? Are you starting to realize all those years of pointing to the bible have been meaningless? That your life has been wasted. I know it’s a hard thing to take being that insignificant.
Oh, as for you nut cases and your Islam vs Christian fundamentalism and who is worse. Do a little research into the ‘pro-life’ Christian movement. I believe there was one fello in particular by the name of “Eric Robert Rudolph” you might want to look into.
“you see things quite clearly…but if you stand in the darkness with no light…you are pretty much left to guess whats out there…islam is not a judeo christian religion…and mohammad was not a prophet of God…i very much weigh this whole thing in a solid state of knowledge and understanding of these spiritual things…you can not get good fruit from a bad tree…islam is a bad tree…there is no light in mohammad or the koran nor can you hope to find any peace in the religion of the warlord of arabia…”
JS, what the the hell does that have to do with anything I posted? When did I post ANYTHING supportive of Islam on this blog? You’re not even bothering to read anything I posted.
80. Jay Gaultieri
just the demonstration that you cant connect the dots jay, is a complete vindication of anything that you represent…thanks for that !!
79. SAR
can you comprehend the words that you are reading? good…then please stop trying to put words into my mouth moron….
81. js | August 14th, 2008 at 7:40 am
Thats rich coming from you. You really should take a course in projection.
Did you look at the link I posted js? Your pretty quite about it. Seems you don’t mind digging in someone else’s closet but like to ignore your own.
projection? is that what you call it? i call it lying…then again….liars go to great lengths to disingeniously disguise thier deceptions…they normally hide behind charades to evade the truth…you are no different….number three stooge…and i really didnt indulge myself in the intricacy of your mental midgetry by running a fools errand to your link…its pretty much a waste of time….
so stop putting words in my mouth and then trying to bash me for it stooge
liars go to great lengths to disingeniously disguise thier deceptions…they normally hide behind charades to evade the truth…
Like the Church and the problem they are having with alter boys?
“and i really didnt indulge myself in the intricacy of your mental midgetry by running a fools errand to your link…”
A link, I might add, which proves Christian fundamentalist blow up things and kill innocent people too.