13 Comments

• 1. bagni  |  September 5th, 2008 at 7:43 am

  marklection
  congratulations…
  and here’s the prediction
  repubs will win this fall
  not because of the issues
  but because how uninformed voters “feel”
  the right has the best attack machine
  obama has the best mkting/communications machine
  in u.s. planetary politics attack wins everytime
  and you’ll be left with a pres/vp who won’t be able to change a thing
  be careful what you wish for
  and you should all wish for mccain’s health
  i can’t wait to read the posts a year after your interstellar inaugaration

• 2. Joe Bananas...in Pyjamas  |  September 5th, 2008 at 7:48 am

  The facts are very clear and disturbing for Democrats.

  Palin has polarized the Republican base, the more the msn and the likes of Kos try to invent mud and sleaze to throw at her the more her supporters grow.

  When the best your opponents can do is to whine that her speech was written for her, and the msm stooges for Obama start picking on her hair style, then you know that they are worried scared.

  You Liberals have been sold a lemon, the far fringe left has had it’s way with the Democratic party because they gambled on the premise that no one in their right mind would vote GOP this time round.

  So they pushed and pushed for the most Liberal candidate ever and got him, finally!, they thought we will get our way and make dramatic changes to this country once and for all removing the conservative strangle hold on the social fabric of US society.

  How very wrong you may be.

• 3. Retired Spook  |  September 5th, 2008 at 7:50 am

  To take just one example - in education, both sides, naturally, claim to be in favor of excellent education, but McCain/Palin stands for excellent education at the service of the children and their parents, while Obama/Biden stands for an excellent education to prepare kids to follow the liberal line in a liberal-dominated world. We on our side don’t particularly care what the kids learn so long as they learn it - their side doesn’t care if the kids really learn anything so long as they conform to the worldview of the left. To us a kid turned into a literate communist is at least someone who can eventually read the truth about communism and come to reject it..to them, an illiterate kid is ok if he has absorbed liberal ideology and never thinks to question the liberal elite.

  Down the list it goes - apparently similar goals, but goals which have a different, and conflicting meaning. Everyone wants the campaign in Iraq over - we want victory, they are perfectly ok with defeat. Everyone wants energy independence - we want to use all our resources, they only want to use resources pre-approved by environmentalists. Everyone wants high quality health care - we want to empower doctors and patients, they want to empower government. A crucial battle, which will decide what direction we go, and will have ramifications for decades to come.

  Mark, this is concise and to the point and should be the core of every stump speech by Senator McCain or Governor Palin. They can go into as much detail as they want from here, but these points should be driven home again and again and again until voters can recite them by heart. If I were on the McCain-Palin campaign staff, I’d reproduce these points in a post-card size format and send them to voters with a McCain-Palin refrigerator magnet. That’s how the GOP won in 1994 — millions of voters had the Contract with America pasted on the door of their refrigerator where they saw it several times a day.

  Just my 2 cents.

• 4. Retired Spook  |  September 5th, 2008 at 8:05 am

  On additional thought. I’ve had fleeting thoughts throughout much of this year that a McCain administration would be largely a continuation of the last 8 years. That was finally dispelled with the choice of Palin, and her and McCain’s speeches. The question is no longer status quo vs. change. Everyone talks about a particular event, choice or speech as being a “game changer”, but the last few days have really represented a sea change in the way these two sides are going to be seen from here on out. To use a football metaphor, McCain-Palin has just stripped the ball from Obama-Biden as they were diving toward the goal line. They didn’t pick it up and run it back for a touchdown, but they’re heading down-field with it. For a whole lot of people, the kinds of change McCain and Palin are talking about will be “change that you can [really] believe in”, and the kinds of change Obama and Biden are talking about are going to start to look pretty frightening and risky to the average person.

• 5. William of Orange  |  September 5th, 2008 at 9:55 am

  Retired Spook writes:

  That was finally dispelled with the choice of Palin, and her and McCain’s speeches. The question is no longer status quo vs. change. Everyone talks about a particular event, choice or speech as being a “game changer”, but the last few days have really represented a sea change in the way these two sides are going to be seen from here on out. To use a football metaphor, McCain-Palin has just stripped the ball from Obama-Biden as they were diving toward the goal line.

  Dear Retired,

  Good sentiments and I agree.

  I am not one of those people who (deranged “Bush Lied..” liberals) or ultra-right-and-angry conservatives who was/is ready to send George Bush down the chute and I certainly was not going to vote for Obama. I believe George W. Bush did some grand and glorious things in keeping us and our economy safe from another terrorist onslaught. He just kind of wobbled off course and did not finish what he promised us in 2004. But basically, he was/is a good and decent man who did the best he could during his tenure.

  But two things came over me with the rise of Obama: firstly, the growing fear that a lot of this country was drinking the Kool-Aid that the MSM and Soros was purveying and, secondly, that we were becoming the “American Idol Nation” — perambulating through life thinking the government had to provide the bread and circuses to sustain our drab, mindless existences.

  Then, like a lightening bolt, McCain did it: he selected Governor Palin.

  I got the word in an e-mail from my mother (an ardent liberal who thinks the sun rises and sets out of Obama’s sphincter). She told me “McCain has stepped in it” which sent me careening to the TV in time to watch Sarah come out and acknowledge her selection. What a transitional moment: what was once dead, I thought, is now reborn. I was at one with that fat bag of puss, Chris Matthews, in that I had the tingle up my leg. (Although, I suspect at that precise moment, Mr Matthews was tinkling down his leg.)

  In an almost involuntary reaction, I went to the McCain site and donated $100; I called and told them to get their local folks to put me on the list as a volunteer, get me a yard sign, and as many bumper “McCain-Palin” stickers as they could for me and my friends.

  John McCain may well lose to Obama and confirm the fears enunciated above. We may be in for a terrible four years and this nation may never recover from the economic havoc wrought by the triple threat of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi but it won’t be by dint of my sitting on the sidelines and voting “none of the above” like so many nutless cretins in our population.

  I am now in the fight and it feels great!

• 6. Retired Spook  |  September 5th, 2008 at 10:31 am

  William, I think you speak for an awful lot of middle America. Don’t feel too bad about your mom. My mother, an 88-year-old, life-long Republican is also enamored with Obama. She is, however, somewhat excited by Palin and bored to tears by Biden — so we shall see.

• 7. Eric T  |  September 5th, 2008 at 11:02 am

  William of Orange-

  you said-”I believe George W. Bush did some grand and glorious things in keeping us and our economy safe from another terrorist onslaught.”

  I agree, he had difficult hand dealt to him with the 9/11 attacks. I think alot of folks really liked the rebate checks. Maybe a good way to celebrate his presidency coming to an end would be cracking open the reserves and celebrating with some cheap gasoline. I think Bush did a good job reviving the economy, after 9/11 attacks. good judges appointed, no new gun bans, abortion numbers dropped since he took office, unemployment has stayed pretty low, REAL strong foreign policy with No new terrorist attacks. He was a real pioneer for alternative energy. Alot good things about him.

• 8. FmrMarine  |  September 5th, 2008 at 11:37 am

  WO

  >>>ohn McCain may well lose to Obama and confirm the fears enunciated above. We may be in for a terrible four years and this nation may never recover from the economic havoc wrought by the triple threat of Obama, Reid, and Pelosi>>>

  You are 100% on the money with this analysis.
  I got into a lively discussion last night over a few beers with a friend of mine and an oBOMBa kool aid drinker.
  All he could do was keep repeatind the whacko rat talking points Busch lied, big oil profits ya de ya.

  I kept to the facts about oBOMBa, Palin, NcCain.
  Two democrat women sitting there with us BOTH stated I made some great points and are now considering McCain-Palin.
  They were both strong hillery supporters.

• 9. Rightlane  |  September 5th, 2008 at 11:56 am

  Here’s a true story that’s unfolded just this week. My daughter’s in the 8th grade in a public school. Her US history teacher has had the kids take a survey to determine their which party they most closely identify with.

  My daughter, a fundamentals Christian, with a visceral hatred of abortion, who loves going shooting with me and is a pretty good shot in her own right, who was surprised to find she was a Donk!

  When she came home, she told us all about it and how she just could believe Obama was the kind of candidate she would be voting for the presidency.

  I investigated the “survey” as you might imagine every on turned out to be Donk in the class. The next day this “teacher” – liberal indoctrinator is more like it- explained to class how Sarah had lied to them all in her speech.

  I guess I go complain to the principle, but I’ll likely end up at the school board finding I have wasted my time all-together. US history is what this gal being paid to teach not current events. I could understand this if she were teaching government or even social studies, but US history? What’s up with that!

• 10. FmrMarine  |  September 5th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

  rightlane;

  Show your daughter this…….

  Before graduating from Columbia University in 1983, Mr. Obama had written to civil rights organizations and to black elected officials looking for work. No one wrote back.

  He worked brief stints at two different jobs, but unemployed two years later, Mr. Obama answered an advertisement for a Chicago grass-roots organizer. With the devastating demise of the steel industry, Mr. Kellman was trying to work with blacks in the city and whites in the suburbs to salvage manufacturing jobs. Mr. Kellman, who is white, was looking for a black organizer to assist him.

  talk about an empty suit!

• 11. Mark Noonan  |  September 5th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

  Spook,

  Thanks - but I’ll credit the inspiration McCain and Palin have given me. Rush today was mildly carping about McCain’s take down of the GOP in his acceptance speech, but I liked it - and like it more in retrospect. Meanwhile, Palin is just a firecracker of a Reaganite - the sort of person to get the idealism juices flowing. I’m all fired up.

  The chips are down; push has come to shove - and we must change the way our government does business…we must, in a manner of speaking, ditch the way we’ve been doing business and set up a system where the average American rules the roost…no more big corporations (which I hold in contempt), big government agencies (which I hold in more contempt) or liberal pressure groups (which I hold in the most contempt)…we’ve been scammed out of our money via government-created inflation, scammed out of our jobs by corporate dimwits, scammed out of our society by liberals who presume to think they are smarter than 2,000 years of Christian thought and work…I’ve had it with this nonsense, and I want to bring it to an end…McCain/Palin won’t be the silver bullet, but they’ll sure get things going, and we’ve got Bobby Jindal in line to take over after 12-16 years of McCain/Palin…and I’m really going to run for Senate in 2010 against Harry Reid, following McCain’s injunction to those of us who want to change things to get directly involved…I’ll almost certainly lose, and I don’t care in the least. I’m going to get out there and fight.

• 12. JS  |  September 5th, 2008 at 6:41 pm

  id vote for ya mark

• 13. FactCheck  |  September 5th, 2008 at 8:21 pm

  I kept to the facts about oBOMBa, Palin, NcCain

  I would wager that what you spewed were not actual facts, just what you like to think of as “facts.” You never use facts here, Alleged Marine; why should we believe that you use them in other political discussions?