Did Obama Try to Sabotage US Policy in Iraq for Political Advantage?
October 10th, 2008 at 02:36am Mark Noonan
The news story:
At the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in private conversations that the president shouldn’t be allowed to enact the deal without congressional approval.
Mr. Obama’s conversations with the Iraqi leaders, confirmed to The Washington Times by his campaign aides, began just two weeks after he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June and stirred controversy over the appropriateness of a White House candidate’s contacts with foreign governments while the sitting president is conducting a war.
Some of the specifics of the conversations remain the subject of dispute. Iraqi leaders purported to The Times that Mr. Obama urged Baghdad to delay an agreement with Mr. Bush until next year when a new president will be in office - a charge the Democratic campaign denies.
Mr. Obama spoke June 16 to Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari when he was in Washington, according to both the Iraqi Embassy in Washington and the Obama campaign. Both said the conversation was at Mr. Zebari’s request and took place on the phone because Mr. Obama was traveling.
However, the two sides differ over what Mr. Obama said.
“In the conversation, the senator urged Iraq to delay the [memorandum of understanding] between Iraq and the United States until the new administration was in place,” said Samir Sumaidaie, Iraq’s ambassador to the United States.
He said Mr. Zebari replied that any such agreement would not bind a new administration. “The new administration will have a free hand to opt out,” he said the foreign minister told Mr. Obama.
Mr. Sumaidaie did not participate in the call, he said, but stood next to Mr. Zebari during the conversation and was briefed by him immediately afterward.
The call was not recorded by either side, and Mr. Zebari did not respond to repeated telephone and e-mail messages requesting direct comment.
Whether this was an attempt to some how derail American victory in Iraq or just the arrogance of an out-of-touch man with a messiah complex is not a judgment I can render - but I can state that any such action by Obama was amazingly irresponsible and, indeed, would harm any ability he had to shape policy for Iraq, supposing he wins the election. Rather than having a breathing space where Iraqis would wonder what comes next and try to make things as smooth as possible for Obama, the Iraqis will now have an incentive to dump the American connection as soon as possible as they must know they are dealing with a man who is clueless in world affairs and cannot be relied upon.
Obama is the man who thinks that US troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians. Why does he believe this? Because it is what he’s been told and he lacks sufficient knowledge and experience to tell the difference between the truth and enemy propaganda. The fact that a man this out to lunch retains such a clearly high opinion of himself is also very disturbing - raised to the White House, what we’ll have is a marriage of despotism and incompetence. America will get to see what its like to be governed by a man who knows nothing but thinks he knows all.
The United States - carried forward by the people of the United States - will survive Obama, should he win…but he’ll be a terrible tragedy for the United States, and a major danger for the world…a world which only has any peace or freedom at all because the United States secures it by its might. Liberty is a frail flower protected by the sword and shield of the United States - Obama thinks its a thing threatened by the United States, and conversations with thugs and meetings with the UN will win the day. That this benighted knave has managed to advance so far is testimony to the the ability of millions to swallow whatever lies are spoon fed to them by an elite class determined to rule at all costs - that he still hasn’t been able to close the deal is testimony to the fact that courage and common-sense are still strong in the United States…who wins next month will tell us if the wise or the gullible are able to triumph at the polls.
Entry Filed under: Campaign 2008, Corruption, Democrats, Republicans, War on Terror
17 Comments
1. french student | October 10th, 2008 at 5:11 am
Exactly eight years too late.
2. js | October 10th, 2008 at 7:14 am
thats a fugly idea…obamasiah in the white house..one thing for sure…its only a nightmare…wake up because mccain is going to be POTUS
3. Silverlake | October 10th, 2008 at 8:15 am
1. french student | October 10th, 2008 at 5:11 am
Well done! You have to wonder where Mark has been living since 2000.
4. bagni | October 10th, 2008 at 8:16 am
markotage
the alienistas are convinced
mccain is going to win
and then he can give his best at being
“amazingly irresponsible”
it’s a planetary politico’s duty
5. js | October 10th, 2008 at 8:53 am
you actually are right for once borni….most aliens run to america to get away from what obama wants to “change” america into…
6. A-10 | October 10th, 2008 at 9:01 am
Looks to me like another violation of the Logan Act. Does anyone see a pattern here?
But to our resident Obamamaniacs, it matters not.
Trying to undermine the official negotiations of the US Government? - no problem, Sen Obama is “The One.”
Go through high school and into college in a constant drug induced daze (Sen Obama’s own admission)? - hey, he’s enlighterned, he’s “The One.”
Work hand-in-hand with a unrepentant domestic terrorist for 13 years? - no big deal, he’s just a guy that lives in the “neighborhood.”
Fund, train, provide legal council, and hire a radial organization that commits voter registration fraud on a national scale? - d@mn right, we gotta win this election.
Kill babies during birth and when born alive? - sure, they’re just “pre-viable fetuses.”
Attend a racist, anti-American church for 20 years? - so what, shows he’s religious.
Ask for $1M in earmarks a day? - hey, its not his money, who cares.
Give earmarks to family members and his wife’s employers? - don’t you listen, ITS NOT HIS MONEY.
Lie about Sen McCain’s health care plan, raising taxes, and foreign policy? - Bush is evil, Bush is bad, I HATE BUSH.
Say our troops are “bombing villages and killing civilians?” - they are aren’t they? But, hey, “We support the troops.” PS: Bush is Hitler.
Negotiate with our enemies without preconditions? - they wouldn’t be our enemies if we would just sit down with them and agree that they are right and America is wrong, expecially Bush, who is Satan.
Take $ from FM/FM and seek economic advice from those who “cooked” the FM/FM books? - Heck, they got us in this mess, they should know how to get us out. Bush sure doesn’t, he’s an idiot.
Refuse to release any records of his past? - Hey, its none of your business. Besides, Bush never released the secret pact he signed with aliens from the planet Zordon.
I don’t know why anyone is getting upset over a simple little chat with a foreign government during a time of war.
7. js | October 10th, 2008 at 9:28 am
actually…we did the ayers thing right yesterday and the day before…we need to drag the skeleton out of the closet though…
lets talk about wright and trinity…
turn the page…more to come…
8. js | October 10th, 2008 at 9:33 am
how about obama’s own words;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7zAnZcJ4bI
i’d say he truely is a racist…
9. js | October 10th, 2008 at 9:44 am
“i wasnt in church…uh…at the time these statements were made”…even though the basic core theology is acknowledged in obama’s book…”dreams from my father”
so exposing racism…and the lies to protect it..should be an astounding blow to obama’s campaign…
10. js | October 10th, 2008 at 9:47 am
Senator Obama reveals his true feelings in Dreams of My Father:
“A steady attack on the white race, the constant recitation of black people’s brutal experience in this country, served as the ballast that could prevent the ideas of personal and communal responsibility from tipping into an ocean of despair.”
“The [black] nationalist would say, whites are responsible for your sorry state, not any inherent flaws in you.”
“In fact, whites are so heartless and devious that we can no longer expect anything from them. The self loathing you feel, what keeps you drinking or thieving, is planted by them. Rid them from your mind and find your true power liberated. Rise up, ye mighty race!”
“If nationalism could create a strong and effective insularity, deliver on its promise of self-respect, then the hurt it might cause well-meaning whites, or the inner turmoil it caused people like me, would be of little consequence.”
“This process of displacement, this means of engaging in self-criticism while removing ourselves from the object of criticism, helped explain the much-admired success of the Nation of Islam in turning around the lives of drug addicts and criminals.”
“To avoid being mistaken for a sellout, I chose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists and punk-rock performance poets.”
“Yes. I’d seen weakness in other men—Gramps and his disappointments, Lolo and his compromise. But these men had become object lessons for me, men I might love but never emulate, white men and brown men whose fates didn’t speak to my own.”
“It was into my father’s image, the black man, son of Africa, that I’d packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela.”
“Now, as I sat in the glow of a single light bulb, rocking slightly on a hard-backed chair, that image had suddenly vanished. Replaced by…what” A bitter drunk? An abusive husband? A defeated, lonely bureaucrat? To think that all my life I had bee wrestling with nothing more than a ghost!”
SOURCE:
Dreams of My Father
A Story of Race and Inheritance
Barack Obama
A New York Times Bestseller
11. js | October 10th, 2008 at 9:51 am
the whole truth is that until we “all” shed our hatred and animosity of other race…then mankind will suffer from racists and racism…if God struck each and every one of us blind today…it would cure most of the problems the world has…
12. LiberalNitemare | October 10th, 2008 at 10:05 am
First off, let me just say that this is just a distraction.
Clearly “they” hope to distract the american public from its quest for hope and change by relentlessly talking about Obama’s actual actions and deeds.
First, They are gonna say that Obama hangs out with criminals and thugs. You know, people that arent like you. My Friends, Obama is just like you. Any friends and associates he might have probably are thugs and criminals, but Obama has distanced himself from all of these associates, and in fact all of those friends and associates are just folks in his neighborhood. What are you? A racist or something?
Then they are gonna say that Obama is trying to thwart american foreign policy in order to win the election! This is just a distraction! Trust Obama!
The McCain camp refuses to speak about complex campaign issues like “hope” and “change” because all they have to offer is a proven and demonstrable record of actual accomplishment and honor.
We think the american people would rather talk about hope and change, then discuss politics based on honor and merit. Remember, dont be distracted!
13. A-10 | October 10th, 2008 at 10:17 am
What I “hope” is that over the next 3 1/2 weeks we’re going to continue to see a “change” in the McCain campaign. There are sooooooo many skeletons in Sen Obama’s closet.
This week it is the Ayers connection. Gov Palin started hitting on it over the past weekend and forced the MSM to start covering it. The Obama campaign is scrambling to come up with a believable excuse for Sen Obama’s long alliance with an unrepentant terrorist who has been trying for the past two decades to forment revolution through indocrination of our youth. So far, his three different explanations aren’t gaining any traction.
Later in the week, Sen McCain started naming names who were behind the financial crisis: Rep Franks and Sen Dodd. While the Obama campaign struggles with the Ayers issue, they have to try to defend Democrats and their decades long involvement in the housing crisis. It was the Community Reinvestment Act that is the source of the problem. Pushed by liberals, the CRA has forced lending institutions to enter into very risky loans. FM/FM and others in the financial markets acerbated the problem. ACORN further stoked the fires by pressuring banks to make risky loans.
They have also recently brought out the illegal campaign contributions the Obama Campaign has accepted, from both foreigners and from those exceeding the $4600 limit. The FEC is pushing the Obama Campaign for answers.
Also, there are new revelations that Sen Obama violated the Logan Act in negotiating with a foreign government.
I think the McCain campaign will bring up the Obama-ACORN connection next, tying the financial crisis to ACORN and ACORN to Sen Obama who represented them as an attorney, trained ACORN staff, funded them through the CAC and Woods Fund, paid them through GOTV efforts, and has accepted millions in ACORN contributions. Everyone knows that ACORN is committing voter registration fraud. Tying the Obama campaign with ACORN will be devastating to his chances.
What else is out there? Rezko. Failure to release records. Wright/Pfleger. Efforts to suppress 1st & 2nd Amendments Rigths. Partial Birth Abortion/Born Alive Infants Protection Act.
14. js | October 10th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
its a shameful thing when liberals use honorable things like hope and trust in thier pursuit for power..they represent change alright…and with the MSM’s liberal lies…the financial market is responding to the potential of a liberal president like obama being in charge….
good thing the MSM is liberal slanted…failing to represent impartiality and truth in journalism…bad thing they dont…because so many people are losing so much money in this financial crisis the MSM flames by its liberal slant…
15. js | October 10th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
good post A-10….
but you forgot to mention that obama was employed by ACORN to sue banks to force them into giving loans to low income people…who could not afford them…
16. TalkingPoint | October 10th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
Deleted - slanders US troops.
17. North Korea | October 10th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Vending machines are a big part of my life. I like when you reach into the vending machine to grab your candy bar, that flap goes up to block you from reaching up. That’s a good invention. Before that it was hard times for the vending machine owners. “What candy bar you getting?” “That one … and every one on the bottom row!”