No Wonder Our Liberals are So Boring
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We’ve suspected it for a while. At the start, it was kind of a joke – “hey, these liberals are all saying the same thing…and not just on TV, but also in print and in mere blog comments…must be they get together every morning to coordinate talking points, har har har!”. Then it became kinda creepy how they would continuously hit the same talking points and how they would always try to steer conversation towards whatever twaddle Obama, et al were peddling on a particular day. Well, now we know – just because you’re not paranoid doesn’t mean they’re not out to get you:
How many faintly ominous pieces has Politico run this year about people close to Obama colluding to target their political enemies? There was the story about Rahm Emanuel’s friendly daily chats with Begala, Carville, and Stephanopoulos, then there was the expose on the group effort (“explicitly authorized” by David Axelrod) to make Rush Limbaugh the face of the GOP, and now this. No wonder Ben Smith’s using the word “conspiracy.”
Question to our resident Politico-haters: Has any other publication written extensively about this sort of thing? If so, I missed it.
The vast new left-wing conspiracy sets its tone every morning at 8:45 a.m., when officials from more than 20 labor, environmental and other Democratic-leaning groups dial into a private conference call hosted by two left-leaning Washington organizations…
The call has proved particularly effective at coordinating attacks on critics, said Jackie Schechner, the national communications director for Health Care for America Now, a labor-backed alliance of groups that support Democratic efforts to expand health care.
“There’s a coordination in terms of exposing the people who are trying to come out against reform —they’ve all got backgrounds and histories and pasts, and it’s not taking long to unearth that and to unleash that, because we’re all working together,” Schechner said.
When a new group called Conservative for Patients Rights, for instance, launched an ad campaign featuring former health care executive Rick Scott, “There was a discussion about what do we know about this guy and in a very quick period of time we were able to come up with his background,” she said…
This, as noted later in the linked article, is smart politics – in a media-driven age where the merest impressions can cause major shifts in the electorate, its just smart to have a well-oiled machine for both getting your views out and hitting hard at the opposition. But even though we GOPers will, naturally, copy this and, just as naturally, do it better (and, also just as naturally, when it comes back to bite Democrats they’ll suddenly be offended by it and claim that this GOP nastiness just has got to stop), it is a bit creepy. Creepy – but also boring.
Fortunately, we here at Blogs for Victory do have the saving grace of a few very intelligent and actually well-read pinkos (Sergei, Ricorun, kmg, etc) and thus we’re not just being hit with talking points…but to turn on any liberal talk show or read any lefty commentary is just dull as dishwater these days…they all say the same thing in the same way at the same time. Doesn’t it bother you liberals to have your views just ground out by a propaganda ministry-type operation? I mean, come on – can’t you stand to differ with your Fearless Leader just a bit? I broke with most of my fellow GOPers on immigration reform, ya know? And yet my fellow conservatives still like me – heck, I also go my separate way on the death penalty, and I’m still able to hold my head up high at a conservative gab-fest. Its actually a bit more fun when you hash things out and there’s more than one opinion on the table.
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41 Responses to “No Wonder Our Liberals are So Boring”
Caucus of Corruption
Listening and reading liberal is often like watch the movie 28 Days Later.
I’d never heard of talking points until the Bush Administration begin using them on a daily basis. Interesting that now you are accusing the Obama Administration of the same thing. Not that that doesn’t mean they don’t use them. It just shows they’ve learned from the best.
Just curious Mark. Where do you get your talking points now?
Interestingly, casper, we get our talking points from our own thoughts, rather then liberal associations which have to tell us what to think and say.
Bush never convened meetings with the press to synchronize what they would say about him and his policies. We didn’t have 20 groups doing conference calls to syncronize their talking points. I never recieved multiple emails from the Bush campaign after he was elected, and never had my email address passed on to various Republican groups, such as the Senate GOP Re-election Campaign. But, I recieve multiple emails a week from the Obama campaign, which is still going on, and from other Democrat campaigns, which I never gave permission to be contacted by.
Doesn’t it bother you liberals to have your views just ground out by a propaganda ministry-type operation?
Probably no more than it bothers you to have your views ground out by a propaganda operation, and you seem to be OK with that.
Casper,
I never use talking points – and it was the Clinton’s who first started this orchestrated message effort…once again, the GOP did it better than the Democrats, but it was the left which started it. And we’ll eventually do this better than the Democrats are doing it…and then you’ll start to mindlessly claim that we started it and we’re wrong for doing it. For you on the left, the past seems to always have started with the last news cycle.
the most boring are fat, old, racist, suburban, white dudes who spread gossip cause that’s the only way women will take notice.
in other words rush’s audience…who can’t get a date himself.
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I never use talking points
I suppose the “it’s not a lie if you really, really believe it” defense will get trotted out for this one.
Someone please check on Ohio’s med’s drip. Thanks.
Mark,
“I never use talking points”
Amazing though how many times your posts match up with the latest talking points from Fox or Drudge though.
“once again, the GOP did it better than the Democrats, but it was the left which started it.”
At least you admit the GOP does it.
William Teach,
“Interestingly, casper, we get our talking points from our own thoughts, rather then liberal associations which have to tell us what to think and say.”
Gee, that’s the way I’ve always done it.
Actually, one of the reasons I come here is to see what the newest right wing talking points are for the day. I’m rarely disappointed. If they aren’t coming from Mark or Matt, I know one of the other conservatives will provide them (usually the same ones that accuse those on the right for using them).
Can’t dispute the way the Democrats are synchronizing their talking points, eh, Casper?
William Teach,
No more than you can dispute the Republicans use them.
You know casper has been a real dick lately..wassup with that?
This thread kinda reminds of a friend I have who happens to be of the extremely left persuasion..
We’ve had a couple of good jousts about many a few issues over the last couple of years..But during the presidential election I noticed that he kept right in line with the Obama Campaign “talking points” regarding things like his connections, or the joe the plumber question, etc, etc..Frankly i was disappointed because he’s a very intelligent human being but to see him swallow whatever BS Obama could muster and not use his own brain to analyze what he was being told was a bit disheartening.
Also reminds me of the many “pitch-fork” crew that seemingly congregate here, they all have the same message but with a slightly different dialogue. I’ll admit I sometimes get confused by some of their rantings that go on and on without really addressing the topic..Kinda boring..doesnt really help there cause either..IMO.
Ricorun is pinko now?haha
So, no answer, eh Casper? Just deflections from ya. Thanks for playing!
wow, oralndo, stick with the talking points rather than trying to sound intelligent.
Well, at leat it was not the “irony” comment you normally post, but it was just a pathetic.
How are those questions coming along? What has it been a week?
I believe it was Will Rogers who once said, “I am not a member of any organized party. I’m a Democrat.” Apparently times have changed, eh? And I guess that, to me, is the most surprising aspect of this news — the fact that the Dems can actually organize themselves to such an extent.
Anyway, I agree with Instapundit in the sense that I suppose there’s nothing wrong with it, per se. And it would behoove the Republicans to attempt the same. But it would be nice if both sides were up front about it, and the groups and individuals involved admitted they’re part of a cabal.
Interestingly, right after posting the above I got a call from the RNC. Hmmm….
zach: Ricorun is pinko now?haha
It doesn’t take all that much around here. Oh well, whatever.
Its just so much easier to be anti-conformist radical if someone else tells you what to think.
i believe it was the mafia that set about coercing Hoover to thier will…through a trade off of confidentiality so to speak…allowing organized crime to rape the economy and buy the very souls of politicians (most of which were very cheap indeed…ie…pelosi)…
the irony of it all is that to concieve to organize the efforts of a wholly owned subsidiary of organized crime…toward the disingenious slandering of the honest, not for sale…opposition…fits right in with the contentions that the chicago politicians (who are also…wholly owned and directed by said organized criminal elements) have managed to seat one of thier own in the white house….
we are facing a calculating and scheming manipulation of media and government opinions not for the good of the country or for the protection or welfare of the people…but for securing a long term monopoly on the power that is deigned to rule this country…
Probably no more than it bothers you to have your views ground out by a propaganda operation, and you seem to be OK with that.
Is this the best a “college-educated” lib can do?
Orlando, what you just posted is the most juvenile response I’ve ever read on this blog. All you said was “I know you are, but what am I?”
Whatta moron.
the most boring are fat, old, racist, suburban, white dudes who spread gossip cause that’s the only way women will take notice.
in other words rush’s audience…who can’t get a date himself.
Let’s see–I’m overweight, but not fat; 52 years old–still young, not racist by any stretch, live in the English countryside. Wait, you got one right–I’m white.
You’re an offensive twat, orrin. What the hell happened to you?
Gee, that’s the way I’ve always done it.
You haven’t done anything on your own since ‘04, casper. That’s when you jumped on the BDS bandwagon and claimed you were switching parties. I think you were lying; if you ever were a Republican posting here, you were doing so in a spoofing manner.
Bush started talking points? What a complete moron you are, casper. You and orrin should get a room. Orlando can sleep on the floor…
1luv2h8lib5 says:
March 11th, 2009 at 11:56 am
maybe..but I get dates w sexy babes unlike rush & his boring old audience. and it aint the money honey ;)
here’s what happened to me. the gop lurched right towards the single issue, big govt, southern socials who can’t understand true western conservative values (ala goldwater/reagan) like balanced budgets, states rights, indiv liberty, & shrinking the fed govt.
I gravitated to the pragmatic center, which is the natural majority, except that the 2 parties collude to prevent a centrist 3d party. and I felt betrayed & used by the neocon cabal who KNEW there were no nukes in iraq AND allowed ObL to escape. plus the neo’s didn’t are that afghanistan devolved so now we must risk yet more soldiers lives when this should be over.
god, don’t get me going…
“William Teach says:
March 11th, 2009 at 11:00 am
So, no answer, eh Casper? Just deflections from ya. Thanks for playing!”
Did you read my answer. I was agreeing both sides use talking points. Next time I will try to be a little clearer.
William Teach: Interestingly, casper, we get our talking points from our own thoughts, rather then liberal associations which have to tell us what to think and say.
I don’t know how to say this gently, but by and large that hasn’t been my experience. My experience has been that individuals on both “sides” tend to pile onto their preferred snow drifts. I guess it’s easier that way. But more specifically, your comments on the recent “The Triumph of Ideology Over Science” thread belied a considerable reliance on talking points rather than independent thinking — or research.
Bush never convened meetings with the press to synchronize what they would say about him and his policies.
Bush no. But the same cannot be said about the Bush administration. In fact, a few instances came to light wherein supposed independent pundits were on one federal payroll or another.
We didn’t have 20 groups doing conference calls to syncronize [sic] their talking points.
One could certainly quibble about the number. But as I recall Matt (for certain), and perhaps Mark as well (I don’t remember) acknowledged that he (they?) participated in periodic conference calls or on-line gatherings with various other blogsters and occasionally party “elites”.
I never recieved [sic] multiple emails from the Bush campaign after he was elected, and never had my email address passed on to various Republican groups, such as the Senate GOP Re-election Campaign.
Lucky you. I have. It’s not just Republican groups, mind you. I receive messages from all sorts of people and organizations, both on the left and right (and sometimes in between). And most of them I’ve never contacted personally. So apparently I’m on a variety of e-mailing lists. That phone call from the RNC this morning was a first for them, though. And it was on my business line too. That kinda pissed me off.
Ya know, a “preview” option would be really nice. Lol!
In the 2004 election year, the Dallas Morning News printed interviews with 6 North Texas congressional candidates, 4 Republican and 2 Democrat. The interview was on their thoughts on fixes for Social Security. All 4 Republicans had different appoaches to the problem, while the 2 Democratic candidates reflected the party line. I wrote a letter to the editor pointing out that fact. As I stated in the letter, I knew what the Democratic candidates would say before I read the article.
ohio
the most boring are fat, old, racist, suburban, white dudes who spread gossip cause that’s the only way women will take notice.
in other words rush’s audience…who can’t get a date himself.
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AHH the rantings of a rage, hate filled R. Ranger, why do you hate white straight men so much?
are you black? and GAY?
must suck to be you,
I enjoy my white privilege in the burbs, far away from the murder, drugs, mayhem, while clinging to my Bible and of course Guns.
you hit the button smack on dead center marine…the boys a sodomite with insecurity issues when facing normal men…to the effect that he lies and reveals his bigoted butt for what he is…
fmrmarine: I enjoy my white privilege in the burbs, far away from the murder, drugs, mayhem, while clinging to my Bible and of course Guns.
Just so you know, the guys in “my shop” are diligently working on a thought-propelled walker for you. Okay, it’s more of a stump-propelled Segway, but same difference. And it’s not “for you” exactly, but hey. And perhaps most importantly, it’s not particularly near marketing stage yet, so maybe it’s not worth financing. After all, if it hasn’t happened yet, it never will, right? Then again I would define “luddite thinking” as anyone with that attitude.
is that your way of saying that if you had to meet marine face to face in a dark alley…you would piss your pants and..run…rico..run….oh, what a coincidence…perfect name for you i guess…
rico
Then again I would define “luddite thinking” as anyone with that attitude.
I define luddite, as anyone who actually needs or takes viagara, etc
js02
and..run…rico..run…
and all along I thought it was “run forest run”
But Forest was a Marine and a hero……rico ?
Im not sure
but his “humor” is light, and singing ?…….ask his wife, the dog howls with him…..
ya gotta figure anyone who dis’s someone because they served in the defense of our country and in the defense of freedom like runricorun does…
gotta be a coward
Yeah, I am really sick of this. I mean, what’s the point of free expression if everyone expresses the same thing over and over? For instance, a few pundits have recently said something about the current stock market being a vote of no confidence in the President’s stimulus plan. They say it, and every idiot on the internet starts repeating it as if it were a fact – in blogs, in discussion threads, everywhere. Bunch of parrots. First Amendment my ass.
fool
Yeah, I am really sick of this. I mean, what’s the point of free expression if everyone expresses the same thing over and over?
Then LEAVE……AMF!
js02
gotta be a coward
Like MEOW ! a puzzy tat ?
Talk about timing. I got this in my email today:
Welcome to The Weekly Trunk — The Republican National Committee’s new weekly email update on all the latest news and political happenings. The goal of The Weekly Trunk is to inform and arm you with the facts you need to spread our conservative message and refute the misstatements of the Democrats.
Obama is a socialist
Supply Side economics
KILL THE TERRORISTS
9-11! 9-11!9-11!
San Francisco Values
Gay people…GAY PEOPLE!!!
God is good…
Give me my guns!!
…no nukes in iraq AND allowed ObL to escape.
No, orrin, no need to get you started. This reveals it all–you drank the kool-aid and became a lemming. Centrist my ass…
ya gotta figure anyone who dis’s someone because they served in the defense of our country and in the defense of freedom like runricorun does…
Actually, I have never dissed anyone because they served in the defense of our country. On another thread, though, I did poke some fun at folks that were talking about armed insurrection, because most of them are getting a little long in the tooth. And after all, it’s hard to navigate a walker and aim a rifle at the same time, lol! My comment about thought-controlled walkers was a continuation of that.
But anyway, it’s true in a fashion — I am working with a group of researchers interested in human/machine interfacing, specifically using peripheral nerve activity to control robotic prosthetics. The work is promising, but it’s a ways away from commercial viability. And in the thread a couple of days ago regarding embryonic stem cell research, one attitude common among several commenters was the notion that since ESC research hasn’t produced any therapies yet, funding the research is a waste of money. So I used the present context to poke a little fun at that attitude, too.
My comments weren’t really directed at fmrmarine, but at the attitudes. Whether he shares them is incidental. But if he does, then I suppose he has a right to feel dissed, lol! Either way, though, they don’t have anything to do with his service to the country. For that I thank him.
maybe..but I get dates w sexy babes unlike rush & his boring old audience. and it aint the money honey ;)
I know it “ain’t the money;” what do crack ho’s go for these days, orrin? Twenty bucks? It ain’t the money, honey…