Obama to Help GOP Secure 300 House Seats
Tags: border security, illegal immigration.
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Well, that is, if this story pans out:
While acknowledging that the recession makes the political battle more difficult, President Obama plans to begin addressing the country’s immigration system this year, including looking for a path for illegal immigrants to become legal, a senior administration official said on Wednesday.
Mr. Obama will frame the new effort — likely to rouse passions on all sides of the highly divisive issue — as “policy reform that controls immigration and makes it an orderly system,” said the official, Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director of intergovernmental affairs in the White House.
Mr. Obama plans to speak publicly about the issue in May, administration officials said, and over the summer he will convene working groups, including lawmakers from both parties and a range of immigration groups, to begin discussing possible legislation for as early as this fall.
Some White House officials said that immigration would not take precedence over the health care and energy proposals that Mr. Obama has identified as priorities. But the timetable is consistent with pledges Mr. Obama made to Hispanic groups in last year’s campaign.
Keeping in mind that I was one of the 4.7 people who supported the Bush-McCain immigration reform bill…
This is political suicide – I can only figure that Obama will push it either because Obama is really, really stupid or that the hispanic groups have gained so much leverage over the Democrat party that they can’t be refused. The latter is more likely, but we can’t discount the former – Obama is showing clear signs of megalomania, so anything is possible. He might feel that he can do it and come out a winner on it.
What we learned vis a vis immigration reform is that the American people, by an overwhelming majority, want the border secured first. Only after it is clear that no more illegal immigrants are able to just waltz across the border will there start to be support for any program to legalize those illegals already in-country and start up a guest-worker program for foreigners not currently in-country. Any effort to pass a bill which can in any way, shape or form be portrayed as amnesty will become a millstone ’round the neck of any party identified with it. Obama would get less grief if he revived gun control efforts.
We shall see if this actually comes to pass – but, if it does, I’ll gladly accept the rather large number of GOP seats we’ll get out of it. I mean, if Obama is determined to pull a Clinton and spend his term making legislative Democrats politically toxic, I see no reason to stand in his way.
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23 Responses to “Obama to Help GOP Secure 300 House Seats”
Caucus of Corruption
I thought part of being American was extending the possibility to others of living the American dream – by becoming Americans. So what’s wrong with this?
Obama intends to try and organize and streamline immigrants who want to become legal Americans being able to do so if they qualify. By doing so it will also make it easier and the criteria better defined for saying “no” to those who clearly don’t qualify.
It’s quite simple really, if someone is in the country illegally, they should be given two choices. Become legal, or leave. Becoming legal requires a structured method of doing so, which Obama is going to try to create. I’ve no doubt the right wing will go rushing around yelling about scary foreign people, but the fact is the American people as a whole aren’t buying into the paranoia and delusions of danger the rabid right wing seem to love.
So… go back to sleep. Dream about getting more seats. I’ll try not to wake you up… or better still, I’ll wake you up when it DOES happen in, say, 2025…
All that letting the illegal immigrants become legal will do is encourage more to come over illegally and hope for another amnesty. (That is what happened the last time there was an amnesty) I am with Mark on this one, secure the borders first – then begin the process of setting up a system for those who remain here illegally to try and qualify to become legal residents. I have nothing against people wanting to come here – but they should have to follow the rules. My ancestors did, why can’t they?
AF,
You’re being inattentive – I agree with legalizing the illegals in country, with certain requirements…but any attempt by anyone, of any party, to do this prior to making the border air tight is committing political suicide.
illegal immigrants have already demonstrated that they do not respect our laws…we allow hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants every year…so its not about sharing the american dream as much as it is stealing it…the cost of an assimilation program for the illegals will go far beyond the dollar figure…organized criminal networks have entrenched themselves in this group of people…and the damage that hard working mexican citizens do to mexico as 5-10 million “hard working” and “industrious” members of its society abandon the defense of its nations government probably (already) be a hit that the government will never recover from….as drug lords reach out to sieze power in thier homeland…
“I thought part of being American was extending the possibility to others of living the American dream – by becoming Americans. So what’s wrong with this?
As long as they do it LEGALLY!!!!!
This is nothing but a vote grab by the Obamateur administration. There is already a strain on public services because they are not denied them now. A fraction of illegals use the system. Imagine the huge influx of people when they become legal and are not afraid to expose themselves.
Let’s reward illegal acts. It seems the socialists liberals want to reward failure and illegal acts for a block of votes.
Why do you and the socialist liberals have a problem with the rule of law when it does not suit your political objectives???
Tiredoflibs
It obviously works here……
fmrmarine says:
April 8th, 2009 at 6:26 pm
Cluster
http://www.rightsidenews.com/200904084317/editorial/castro-s-communist-cuba-and-our-congressional-black-caucus.html
WHO the F*K are these people??
Castro’s Communist Cuba and Our Congressional Black Caucus
April 8, 2009
By JB Williams
©2009 USA
While the leftist American press kept public attention focused upon Obama’s International Apology Hajj, working around the clock to put a positive spin on Obama’s failed Throw America Under the Bus Tour abroad, another important and equally dastardly trip was taking place below the average American’s radar…
Six members of the US Congress traveled to Castro’s Communist Cuba over the weekend to open talks aimed at establishing a cooperative relationship between the United States and Communist Cuba. The six member Congressional delegation to Cuba included the following House Representatives;
All six are leadership members within the 2009 Congressional Black Caucus. The caucus, founded by one time card carrying member of the Communist Party, U.S. Congressman John Conyers, Jr. of Michigan, has 42 members as of today, 30 of which are also members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
The Congressional Progressive Caucus is the official legislative arm of the Democratic Socialists of America, boasting 76 congressional members today, 30 of which are also members of the Congressional Black Caucus.
AF
I thought part of being American was extending the possibility to others of living the American dream – by becoming Americans. So what’s wrong with this?
DUUUUUHHHHHH!!!!!!
ILLEGALLY…….breaking and entering is a CRIME!
ILLEGALLY…….attending school on US tax payers dollars.
ILLEGALLY……..using medical services on US tax dollars.
ILLEGALLY……..obtaining welfare, social services paid for by US tax dollars.
Make them LEAVE apply and wait like any one else, then cut out taxes by the trillion ++ they COST….US!
Of course then you couldnt force them into companies as non english speaking union thugs could you?
“the 1986 Immigration Reform and Control Act provided amnesty for undocumented aliens already in the country.”–Black’s Law Dictionary, entry amnesty.
Refresh my memory again who was President in 1986? Was the border “airtight” in 1986?
Bloch
For you
it was PM Margaret Thatcher, and who cares about some little island’s borders?
Ours……. NONE of your eurotrash business
so PI$$ OFF!…….PUTA!
fmrmarine says:
April 9th, 2009 at 7:59 am
LOL!
For you that would have been your Political Deity Ronald Wilson Reagan! So Obama is offering something similar to what Reagan gave illegal immigrants and socials are having a fit? Are social anti-Reagan now to go along with all the other “anti” things?
blochadvocate says: (nothing but lies)April 9th, 2009 at 8:08 am
oh look, satans whore is spreading more rhetoric and stupidity
bloch
you should worry about the RIOTS in london’s streets.
Cameras on every foot of space, more than any place on the earth,
Invasion of foreigners taking over your jobs and culture.
Radical islam murdering your people, bombs on trains, sharia law,
and AIDS among your african population.
Not worring about the US, we can handle that just fine PUTA!
js02
notice how the libs and commies like blesssch PUTA, ignore my first post on this site?
fmrmarine says:
April 9th, 2009 at 7:35 am
Tiredoflibs
It obviously works here……
I agree that the immigration system needs to be overhauled. It is a mess. Those who are trying to be a part of our great nation have to wait an enormous amount of time, pay tons of money, and any minor thing can get them bounced. Matter of fact, I saw that happen with a former employee from a European country who was terminated for commissions fraud. They told him to hit the road.
There is poor tracking of those here on work/visit/school permits. Remember, 1/3 of all illegals are people who have overstayed their visas.
We need a better system for migrant workers, in particular those from Mexico, who comprise a large segment of migrant workers. I’m all for letting them in. But, they need to be tracked, have a limited time, their employers should pay for their health care, and we the People should not be paying for welfare, schooling for their kids, and other social services. Not to mention that Amendment 14, Section 1, should me amended to no longer allow anchor babies.
And, yes, in a low percentage of cases, I am for some illegals being given a pathway to citizenship. The rest need to be sent packing. Liberals are always yammering on about following the law, yet, here they want to give legalize their illegal actions.
Interestingly, most other countries require anyone applying for citizenship to bring something to the table. Money, valued skills, etc. We don’t. Never have. We welcome the dregs of other countries to join us and be a part of our wonderful nation. Yet, as of late, so many come here and isolate themselves from the overall society. That is a problem. Furthermore, if you want to, say, become a French citizen, they are going to require that you actually speak French. If you want to be a citizen of the USA, you need to learn English so you can communicate.
And stop getting ticked off, immigrants, because the people you deal with do not speak Spanish.
the majority of the migrant work force should be jetisoned with the US at 8% unemployment…the governments duty and what the government does though are at odds…while they should be promoting employers to hire americans and filter out illegals…they encourage the low pay to the illegals when they talk about giving them citizenship…
what kind of idiot would make these people…who are essentially criminals in our nation (even though a percentage of them hold down jobs…the have broken our laws intentionally)…citizens….to burden the society with thier retirement and medical care…
GM is going bankrupt because of the same basic issue…too much going to retirement plans…Social Security will not be able to provide for all of us and all of them, and their families…and the additional immigration of those whose families are not yet here that recieve money from the US paychecks of illegal immigrants…
fmrmarine says:
April 9th, 2009 at 8:18 am
Riots you mean like your gun violence rampages twice in Alabama, Pennsylvania, Washington and New York?
Cameras like this one at every stoplight and intersection in the United States?
Radical Islam killed 3 000 of your people in the most spectacular terrorist attack since the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building how is that less of a FAIL than the 7/7 attacks? The fastest growing demographic for AIDS in the US is married white women. You need to get your head out of the Catholic League web site and read the facts from time to time.
I do worry about the US I worry as your kind get more and more marginalized when and how you will act. I suspect like Poplawski in Pittsburgh it will be with raw and brutal violence.
js02 says:
April 9th, 2009 at 4:55 am
Plenty more LEGAL residents, citizens of the US don’t respect US law. When Reagan pushed forth his amnesty in 1986 he excluded those convicted of felonies or three misdemeanors and I agree those people should be deported.
If you are willing to entertain the notion that the American dream is “stolen” by illegal immigrants then you must consider that the dream being deferred for blacks for decades by Jim Crow laws has some inherent value. If illegal immigrants cost the legal dreamers something then those innocents now who enjoy the fruits of the monolith of white bigotry in the 20th century owe black America reparations.
Maybe if we can get US gun shipments to cease crossing the border into Chihuahua, Nuevo Leon, Tamaulipas, Sonora and Coahuila then the Federales might have a chance to fight back.
reagan supported amnesty to illegal immigrants.
gerald ford offered amnesty to the vietnam draft dodgers in canada.
both gop of course.
THINKING CITIZENS KNOW 12 MILLION + ILLEGAL MEXICAN IMMIGRANTS WILL NOT BE ROUNDED UP & DEPORTED but the gop prefers NOT to address this issue.
instead wingnuts argue…
js02 says: April 9th, 2009 at 4:55 am
illegal immigrants have already demonstrated that they do not respect our laws…we allow hundreds of thousands of legal immigrants every year…
and as usual wingnuts remain divorced fm reality –
“For two decades, immigration bashers have stymied any attempt to regularize the status of illegal aliens in this country by employing one, single argument against them: They are queue-jumpers who illegally crossed the border ahead of those patiently waiting their turn.
But the argument is a fallacy based on a complete misstatement of U.S. immigration policy. There is no such line – a legal pathway to citizenship for unskilled workers. Still, this unfair accusation has transformed “amnesty” into a dirty word.”
imagine that wingnuts, but there’s more…
“Unskilled workers wishing for more permanent employment in, say, a hotel’s house-cleaning department, have virtually no visa options to enter the country legally. Furthermore, unlike skilled workers who can apply for a green card while on an H-1B, H-2B visa holders are effectively barred from doing so. In fact, they risk losing their H-2B – or, worse, not even getting one – if they signal an intention of applying for a green card.
In essence, there is no queue for unskilled workers to stand in. Amnesty for them therefore has zero bearing on the wait time of skilled workers. And without amnesty, there is no way currently for them to become permanent residents.”
http://www.reason.org/news/show/1002839.html
so wingnuts ignore the amnesty history of the gop.
and ignore actual immigration law…
…plus the logistical reality of 12 million in-country.
then hide their (racist) delusions behind zenophobic mythology.
gins-up the (shrinking) wingnut base no doubt, but what about that critical outreach in the rapidly growing hispanic voting block?
stay tuned for more updates later in the rightwing race to permenant backbench! what a bunch of maroons…
two halfwits with out a whole fact between them…some folks from blohio in bed with satans whore ignroe reality….
1. It is NOT racist to call these people “illegal aliens” In fact, “illegal aliens” is the only term used in federal laws and regulations to describe criminals (and they ARE criminals) who come into our country illegally. They are not illegal immigrants, not undocumented immigrants, not migrant workers, and not day laborers – they’re ILLEGAL ALIENS.
2. Mexico is NOT a poor country. By sending its teeming masses to our country, that status keeps on rising. Mexico has more resources per square mile than the U.S. and plenty of money to take care of its own people. Why should the taxpayers of this country subsidize Mexico’s corruption?
3. Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.
4. Illegal aliens are NOT doing work Americans won’t do. What jobs won’t Americans do? In most states, Americans still clean their own houses, do their own landscaping, clean hotel rooms, work in restaurants and fast food places, paint houses, DO CONSTRUCTION WORK, work in airports, etc. – just like we have the past 200 years before “our” government allowed these people to invade our country. There are 18 million Americans who cannot find a job, so illegal aliens who are coming here to work do so at peril to American workers.
5. Illegal aliens absolutely do not contribute more than they cost. Certainly the millions in prison and on welfare aren’t contributing a dime to our economy, and the ones who are working often are paid in cash with no deductions for taxes at all. The ones who use fraudulent social security numbers and qualify to pay taxes and social security have so many deductions for dependents that they pay little if any taxes. We have seen them pay less than $100 in taxes and get back $4,000 refunds (thanks to earned income tax credits and multiple dependents).Some bargain, eh?
6. The economy does NOT depend on illegal aliens. Sure, greedy CEOs (making $50 to $150 MILLION a year) and business owners depend on illegal aliens, but due to #3, #4 and #5 above, the only thing illegal aliens are contributing to is the collapse of our economy and making the rich richer.
7. Without illegal aliens, the price of agricultural products and other goods and services will NOT soar. The definitive study on this subject is the University of Iowa’s “How Much Is That Tomato?” The study concludes that ’since labor is such a small component of the end-price of agricultural products (which includes price to the growers, transportation costs, processing /storage costs, grocers’ profit, etc.), using minimum wage workers instead of illegal aliens would increase prices of agricultural products by approximately 3 percent in the summer and 4 percent in the winter … hardly the making of $10 heads of lettuce, $25 hamburgers, $1,000 per night Days Inn hotel rooms like the pro-illegal alien lobby claims.
8. Consumers are NOT benefiting from lower labor costs. Again, it’s CEOs and business owners who benefit from taxpayer subsidies for their illegal alien workers. The Big Three automakers say they moved so many jobs to Mexico because their labor costs are 80 percent less than in America. Anybody notice the price of new cars spiraling downward under NAFTA?
Bloch, you should take a look at the amount of cameras on the streets, subways, etc, in your own home country before whining about red light cameras, which are designed to increase safety at intersections which people tend to run the lights. We have lots of them here in Raleigh, and, unlike most NC conservatives, I am all for them. A cheap way to increase safety, and, yes, I have been hit by someone running a red light.
By doing so it will also make it easier and the criteria better defined for saying “no” to those who clearly don’t qualify.
Yes, and those who entered illegally should be told “no.” Now, I know this is not realistic, and in many cases, unfair to those who have been here for decades illegally. So, let’s establish criteria, say, a minimum of five years in country before you can apply for legal status. Those who are “new” illegals should be sent home.
Another issue is citizenship. Those who entered illegally and are given “amnesty” should be made legal residents, not citizens. No voting rights.
I thought part of being American was extending the possibility to others of living the American dream – by becoming Americans. So what’s wrong with this?
What’s wrong with this talking point? It’s redundant. AF, do you not know the difference between legal and illegal?
I’ve no doubt the right wing will go rushing around yelling about scary foreign people, but the fact is the American people as a whole aren’t buying into the paranoia and delusions of danger the rabid right wing seem to love.
Yet another stupid talking point, but consider the source–a stupid liberal. By “American people as a whole,” AF means “American kook libs as a whole.”
js02 says: April 9th, 2009 at 10:15 am
ahhh js, ur knowledge of mexican immigrants is breathtaking considering u think ms-13 nothing more than “2 thugs on a streetcorner”.
oh yea, the pro-biz wing of the gop like the immigrants which itself refutes most of ur retarded talking points.
go back to zenophobic mythology…like rounding-up 12 million then deporting them.
bloch? You there? Or are you now all paranoid from realizing how wired England is with cameras?