ACORN Becomes COI
Tags: Kooks, Leftist Groups, Liberal Fascism.
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Why? Probably for the same reason the NKVD eventually changed its name to the KGB – fascist groups who get a bad rep figure that if they shove their name down the memory hole, people won’t make the connection:
Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now (ACORN) leaders are using the threat of a law suit to silence and intimidate critics, according to current and former members of the liberal activist group. In a letter dated June 11 an attorney for ACORN advised top whistleblowers that their unauthorized use of the organization’s name could make them liable for monetary damages and injunctive relief.
ACORN executives have also changed their organization’s name, which was tarnished by investigations in at least 14 states of allegations of voter registration fraud during the 2008 presidential campaign, and charges by current and former members of financial mismanagement and misrepresentation.
The new name will let ACORN leaders continue their operations without worrying about prior bad publicity, according to Marcel Reid of ACORN 8, a group of present and former members.“We’ve known for many months now that the name ACORN is going to be retired,” Reid said. “The name has been so damaged to the point where the leadership knows it simply can’t go on as it has with the ACORN label out front and center, especially after all of the reporting.” In fact, the process has already begun, she noted. Wade Rathke, who founded the organization, announced on his blog that ACORN International has officially changed its name to “Community Organizations International.”
Same criminals will run the show; we can expect the same corrupt, anti-American and anti-democratic tactics from this grab bag of fascists. And this is the proud backers of “community organizing” and Barack Obama, you liberals – proud of yourselves. Look yourselves in the mirror and feel good about being associated with such people?
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46 Responses to “ACORN Becomes COI”
Caucus of Corruption
Calling people criminals without proof… Innocent until proven guilty, remember?
frenchstudent, to wingnuts ACORN is ghost in your childhood closet… Something extremely scary and dangerous, but mysterious enough that they can’t quite put their finger on it. It’s an amorphous blob that provides a convenient dartboard for their paranoia and fearmongering.
… so while they can’t quite describe any crime that ACORN has engaged in, they do know that it somehow involved registering black people to vote, so clearly there’s some funny business going on.
ur right fmr, I dont feel blacks should vote either.
oh wait…
As Shakespeare wrote, “A rose is a rose by any other name would smell just as sweat.” In ACORN’s case, A skunk is a skunk by any other name would still smell as horrible. Changing a name does not change the character of an organization, you have to change the character before the change in name means anything.
to wingnuts ACORN is ghost in your childhood closet… Something extremely scary and dangerous, but mysterious enough that they can’t quite put their finger on it. It’s an amorphous blob that provides a convenient dartboard for their paranoia and fearmongering.
Exactly. Also, no crazy-ass winger conspiracy theory is complete without a nod to the “criminals” and “fascists” of ACORN. It’s pretty much wingnut catnip.
Resident Liberals,
The fact that such a large amount of ACORN employees have been accused and/or convicted of registration fraud should be enough to merit concern for the organization. Yes, perhaps as is always mentioned, it’s not actual voter fraud, but on that front we have no conclusive data. And it serves no purpose to support, by the act of attacking its aggressors, an organization which lacks sufficient control of its employees to ensure against such crimes.
Also, I find it juvenile when you project frivolous stereotypes on those you disagree with.
making excuses for acorn’s crimes is like blaming mafia crimes on the individuals who are part of the mafia…the organization that acorn is knew these things would happen this year because they happened 2 years before this, and 2 years before that…just like the mafia boss’s knew that promoting specific acts by its “employee members” would result in specific results….criminal or otherwise…
acorn should be charged with RICO statutes for wat they have done.
ohioorrin says: “its one thing to register micky mouse……but quite another for micky to vote.”
and if the law says its a federal crime to register micky mouse to vote…its a federal crime…even if the stupid mouse doesnt show up…
A couple of things here:
You guys love to demonize ACORN – yet if anyone asks about YPM, you don’t want to say a word. Yet YPM, a Republican version of ACORN was doing EXACTLY the same kind of thing that ACORN was doing; registering voters. Except YPM actually DID register them illegally, and Republican strategist Mark Jacoby was convicted of it:
I ask you – which is worse? Registering Mickey Mouse, who is never going to get to vote, or tricking a legitimate person into joining the Republican party when they thought they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters?
Secondly – aren’t you guys always going on about how good it is for America to spread democracy throughout the world? ACORN is an organization that promotes democracy through encouraging people to take part in the democratic process. Surely you should be ENCOURAGING them to go international?
TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 20 > SUBCHAPTER I-H > § 1973gg–§1973gg–10. Criminal penalties
How Current is This? A person, including an election official, who in any election for Federal office—
(1) knowingly and willfully intimidates, threatens, or coerces, or attempts to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any person for—
(A) registering to vote, or voting, or attempting to register or vote;
(B) urging or aiding any person to register to vote, to vote, or to attempt to register or vote; or
(C) exercising any right under this subchapter; or
(2) knowingly and willfully deprives, defrauds, or attempts to deprive or defraud the residents of a State of a fair and impartially conducted election process, by—
(A) the procurement or submission of voter registration applications that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held; or
(B) the procurement, casting, or tabulation of ballots that are known by the person to be materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent under the laws of the State in which the election is held,
shall be fined in accordance with title 18 (which fines shall be paid into the general fund of the Treasury, miscellaneous receipts (pursuant to section 3302 of title 31), notwithstanding any other law), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both.
The Arctic Fox says: more liberal relativism
June 23rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
it doesnt matter…acorns representatives knowingly promoted the conduct of thier employee’s…knowing that the same conduct in past elections resulted in voter registration fraud…and yet they did nothing to prevent the criminal acts from repeating…
it doesnt matter what joe shmoe did in your view…it doesnt change these facts that acorn is, essentially, a corrupt organization and should face criminal charges for thier conduct…under the RICO statutes
@JS02: So, I provide information that a Republican group employed to do a similar thing to ACORN had it’s director ACTUALLY CONVICTED (incidentally one of the charges was lying on his OWN forms) – from the article previously linked:
And your response? “It doesn’t matter.” IOKIYAR. It doesn’t matter what Joe shmoe, Joe Wurzelbacher or Joe Bloggs does, as long as they are not employed by a major party to act in a corrupt manner Much like with Dr Tiller, your side has been all talk and no action, and when it finally DID get around to bringing actual court cases, against both Tiller and ACORN, those cases were ultimately unsuccessful.
what…are you stupid…this isnt about partisian bs…its about acorn…and about all you are trying to do is…change the topic and dilute the issue…
you are a stooge…mental midgetry games and the lot of releativism’s you play to evade the central facts…
its got nothing NOTHING to do with jocoby…he wass tried and convicted…and its over…FACT…acorns been getting along for a decade doing it…its a corrupt, criminal organization…
but you arent smart enough to figure that out…you just wanna…talk about something else…what a moron you turned out to be….
@JS02: I’m not posting partisan BS. I’m pointing out your utter hypocrisy in going after ACORN – which in practically all the cases that have made it before a court has been acquitted – and ignoring YPM.
They were employed to do the same thing – register voters.
What YOU want to do is ignore wrongdoings on your own side and try to focus on the opposition – well, when your own side gets convicted of fraud, that doesn’t work.
You cannot claim FACT when courts don’t convict. You can claim that you BELIEVE it to be a fact, but that doesn’t MAKE it a fact. ACORN is less corrupt than your version, and THAT is a fact, because ACORN got found not guilty and YPM got found guilty. You can’t simply say “yeah, our side wsa convicted and now we’re going to ignore that.”
AF,
I fail to see how one action excuses those of the other. YPM was corrupt. So is ACORN.
Even if every commenter here came out and lambasted YPM, would you still defend ACORN? Do you defend it because you really believe they are an organization of repute, or just because you want to foil people’s musings? Like it or not, ACORN’s hiring practices and inability to control the conduct of their employees damages their credibility.
@Observer: Two wrongs don’t make a right. Where ACORN has committed fraud they should be punished. I have no argument there.
What I DO have an issue is with Republicans yelling “ACORN were the reason the Democrats STOLE the election, they are corrupt and WE AREN’T”
The way the American election system works there is plenty of opportunity for corruption on both sides, you see it every election cycle. But just look at the tags to this blog entry: Kooks, Leftist Groups, Liberal Fascism.
Liberal Fascism. Supposedly helped by ACORN. People who live in glass houses should NOT throw stones.
AF,
Ah, but it’s a sad reality that in most political blogs (or really any political outlet) people spend more time attacking the other guy than looking at their own faults. People prefer to subscribe to the philosophy of a strong offense as a strong defense, as it were.
Is YPM as large of an organization as ACORN or is it locally operated in California?
@Observer:
The article says:
So from that, my impression is that they aren’t as big as ACORN but they aren’t limited to California.
The Arctic Fox says: “You guys love to demonize ACORN..”
document where they are “demonizing” acorn…go ahead…just dont post facts because thats not “demonizing” anybody…the truth is the truth is the truth….and your relativism’s are pretty much lip service to your false god at this point..they have absolutely nothing to do with acorns crimes…
The Arctic Fox says:
June 23rd, 2009 at 1:03 pm
“@JS02: I’m not posting partisan BS. I’m pointing out your utter hypocrisy in going after ACORN ”
liar…you are FULL OF BS…and changing the subject is all you cowards want to do…thats the only hypocricy here
“It’s pretty much wingnut catnip.”
-orlando
That pretty much sums it up. But to a wingnut, just repeat unproven allegations enough and the true believers will say alleluia.
so tell us bumblenutz…why is it that ONLY the firm jacoby ran was charged with federal crimes…and acorn walks….AFTER GETTING CAUGHT IN 14 STATES….and nothing happens to acorn cause THE DNC RUNS AG….thats the only reason jacoby got charged to start with…HE WAS WORKING FOR THE GOP…
its pretty obvious that if jocoby worked for the DNC…he would have WALKED and never been charged…
TALK ABOUT HYPOCRICY
The Arctic Fox says: “What I DO have an issue is with Republicans yelling “ACORN were the reason the Democrats STOLE the election, they are corrupt and WE AREN’T””
he farctic ox….
please document the lie you posted….if ya can…when did republicans yell “ACORN were the reason the Democrats STOLE the election, they are corrupt and WE AREN’T”
if not, ill assume that your fat, lying mouth is paying lip service to your false god, as usual…
so…relativism….jacoby got caught this election…last election not one thing came up…or the election before that…or the one before that…with any voter fraud case against jacoby…BUT IT DID FOR ACORN…and only jacoby pays the price for the crime…BUT ACORN GET HUGE HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR GOVERNMENT GRANTS…
i gues you are just too stupid to figure out whats going on…its pretty obvious that you THE THREE STOOGES are mental midgets…all that they want to talk about is OFF TOPIC…acorn cant be the subject NOOOO!!!! they want to change the subject to JACOBY…
gratz factic ox…the lead stooge of the day award belongs to YOU!!!
@JS02: Look at your own behavior: All you can do is foam at the mouth about people who say what you don’t want to hear. Demonize them as liars, hypocrits, mentally unstable, fascists, dictators etc etc etc.
I have no interest in debating anything with you whilever you can’t keep personal insults out of it, neither am I going to spend hours documenting what I say just for you to dismiss it like you did the first item I spent a few minutes researching. Go to the back of the class, stand in the corner and let more mature people debate things.
ACORN calls itself a community group, but it is really a multi-million-dollar, multi-national conglomerate. Its political agenda is driven by a relative handful of political thugs for hire. ACORN spends millions promoting economic policies (like raising the minimum wage), but doesn’t always want to abide by them.
In fact, ACORN sued the state of California to get out of paying its own employees the minimum wage, and even fought their efforts to create a union.
Before “subprime” became a household word, ACORN waded into the mortgage market, supporting policies that helped lay the groundwork for the catastrophic lending collapse of 2008. Working with another activist group, the Center for Responsible Lending, ACORN lobbied legislators and banks to ensure that any person, regardless of credit history, income, or assets, would qualify for a mortgage. They mastered the art of pressuring banks – often through radical and controversial methods – to provide subprime loans to all comers. It was many of these “toxic” loans that defaulted and sparked the subprime mortgage crisis.
ACORN’s influence extends to the political sphere as well. The group is perhaps best known for its widely-reported role in voter fraud across the country.
During the last two election cycles, it was under investigation for election fraud and related offenses in nearly 20 states. Want examples?
The Arctic Fox says: “Look at your own behavior: All you can do is foam at the mouth ”
thats not foaming at the mouth farctic ox…ITS EXPOSING THE LIES THAT COME OUT OF YOUR MOUTH…
thats standing up for the TRUTH…something you dont want to know about…
Recent Fraud
State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.
CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.
FL 2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state’s Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.
IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.
MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a “sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications” from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney’s office for investigation.
2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.
2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.
2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.
2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.
MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.
NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.
2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.
NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.
2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”
2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.
NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.
2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN’s Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.
OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.
2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.
2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.
PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.
2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found “clearly fraudulent” signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.
2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.
VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.
In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. “Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia.”
WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.
WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.
those are facts farctic ox…lots of them…and you?
not a single one.
Has anyone noticed that the title, “Community Organizers International” is a rather extreme example of an oxymoron?
you cant expect peon’s to use the truth to defend themselves when all they have known is the rotten tree they hang on marine….
its just against thier grain
hey fmr & js –
noonan said to NOT twist screen names.
comprende?
oh…did i say…peons…lol
freudian slip…should have been stooge’s
comprende this ohio…
noonan also said to stick to the topic…and that is exactly what i did…now if…farctic ox acted like an artic fox…then i would call it an arctic fox…but face it…who ever uses the misnomer certainly doesnt have the instinct of a fox…or the intelligence for that matter…as a matter of fact…didnt your mother tell you not to lie? you certainly ignored her…by leaps and bounds ohio…dont try to lecture anyone about morals…your little lie fest precludes any concensus of authority in that realm
so when do you call a fox an ox?
when its a sure thing that an ox is faking it….
js02 says: June 23rd, 2009 at 3:16 pm
leave my deceased mom out of it.
2d no lecture about morals at all.
I correctly noted that noonan stated NOT to twist screen names.
any yo momma told you not to lie
fmrmarie….
You gonna tell? Lol!
jIsM02…
You gonna tell?
tell?
after you expesed yourself?
hahaha…more like laugh at ya
Looks like you need to make a correction, Mark.
Orlando,
So, part of that criminal, fascist conspiracy is changing its name and part of it isn’t? Doesn’t change a thing.
Love to watch the scrambling as the RRL hubcaps shove each other aside in their zeal to mount the most passionate defense of ACORN. It’s just a screwdriverfest of delusion and outright lies, as they pull their usual trick of trying to deflect attention away from the topic—that ACORN is, top to bottom, a corrupt organization—by introducing other accusations about other people.
It just goes to prove that the allen wrenches of the rabid radical Left have been taught well by their minders. And that they have no shame. And that they simply do not CARE that a beloved icon of the RRL tools is a sham, a front for criminal activity, and a scheme to manipulate elections.
There is so much on ACORN, so much proof of their ongoing wrongdoing, so much documentation of their frauds and thefts and corruption, of course they need to try to get a new name as far in advance as possible before the next election, as they know the incumbent Dems will have to answer for signing over billions of dollars, as well as control over the census, to this gang of thugs.
How do the RRL defend ACORN? By name-calling and making accusations against others. Gee, I guess if a Republican does something similar to what ACORN does day in and day out, as a corporate policy, that negates the ongoing wrongdoing of ACORN—and the embezzlement, and the missing funds, and the election frauds in so many states, and the connection to Our Glorious Leader. And of course his payback to them with our tax dollars.
I suggest that no matter what they try to call themselves, they be referred to in a hyphenated manner—-ACORN-COI or even ACORN/COI.
And they are still supposed to run the census—I’d like to deal with that, and not fuss about the name. Oh, and let’s make sure none of those “stimulus package” billions goes to them, too.
So you’d rather be a liar than honest, then, Mark? After all, you now know that your post is erroneous, so you can’t fall back on your little “one must know that the information one is transmitting is false in order for one to be a liar” dodge. You know you’re transmitting false information. You state that you will not correct yourself. By your own calculations, you are a liar.
Plus, there’s that whole “criminal fascist conspiracy” thing, which besides being a lie, is hilariously paranoid. The fact that it’s so funny doesn’t get you off the hook for, you know, lying.
Are you deliberately trying to break your god’s commandments, Mark? And over such a small thing, at that–just a minor update to the post would suffice. But you’d rather hold to your lie. Why would you want to stick your finger in your god’s eye like that? Because you hate ACORN so much it’s clearly making you crazy? Do you think your god will accept that as an excuse?
Oh, orlando, you do get yourself in a snit, don’t you? Mark did not lie, and your puerile snickery comments about Mark’s God are simply juvenile and offensive. I know you think you are just too too pweshuss for words, but only your momma finds you even remotely amusing.
You know, the more some of you guys post, the more convinced I am that you are all in junior high and your parents don’t monitor your computer usage nearly enough.
Look at your blathering in the last post. Why can’t you just admit that ACORN has a long history of varied offenses, and just say you don’t care, instead of trying to deflect criticism of one of your icons by stupid accusations of paranoia.
Paranoia must be on the latest directive—you guys are all using it a lot lately. Paranoia and projection—maybe next week your minders will let you move on to the Q’s.
weeniehead goes off on one of his typical incoherent rants, again accusing us of—you got it—PARANOIA—and elaborating in a bizarre scenario, accusing conservatives of race-baiting or general racism—it is always hard to tell what the weenie is trying to say—-and so on.
There is nothing “amorphous” about ACORN.
The only “mysterious” thing about it is where all the money comes from and where it goes, and the only reason that is still a mystery is because it will not open its books.
There is no reason to go into any of its many many transgressions, yet again, not because you trolls won’t believe them but because you don’t CARE. They are your guys, you buzz around in a hysterical flurry of defensiveness when they are attacked, but you have no interest at all in whether it is a criminal operation.
I love it when something like this comes up, and the Usual Suspects crawl out of their Usual Holes to mount the Usual Attacks and Usual Defenses—no conservative could do a better job of illustrating the total amorality of the rabid radical Left than you do yourselves.
Paranoia must be on the latest directive—you guys are all using it a lot lately.
Yeah, that’s because you guys are really, really paranoid these, always freaking out about “socialism” or “fascism” or “totalitarianism” that lurks behind every tree and around every corner and that only the wingnuts can detect. But paranoia is something you don’t realize you’ve fallen into until you pull yourself out of it, so at the present time, it’s not a characteristic you’re going to be able to see in yourself. Perhaps in due time, though. Perhaps.