A terrible event – but I don’t want anyone to call it an “act of violence” or “a terrible tragedy”. It was an attack – one or more men decided with malice to attack a US military base. We need to get right down to the bottom of this – and, liberals, if the stories of accomplices in custody are true, this is where harsh interrogation might be needed: whoever was involved in this most emphatically does not have a right to remain silent.
UPDATE: AP sources: Fort Hood suspect drew attention of authorities 6 months ago for Internet posts (via Twitter)
UPDATE: Ed Morrissey describes what he calls Obama’s “My Pet Goat” moment, his address to the nation about the attack:
Thank you for visiting Blogs For Victory. If you enjoy our content, please consider making a donation to help us cover the costs of our servers.It took Obama almost two full minutes from the time he began speaking until he got around to mentioning the shooting at Fort Hood — the reason everyone tuned into Obama’s speech. The nation wanted some leadership at a time when it appeared that a terrorist attack may have taken place on American soil — and Obama was apparently more concerned about giving a “shout out” to his friends at the Tribal Nations Conference. Indeed, he tells the audience above that he’s been inconvenienced out of delivering his lengthier remarks because the shooting has intruded itself on his daily business.
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The religion of peace strikes again
When will we finally stand up and scream, “NO MORE” to these murderous and hateful Muslims?
Maj. Malik Nadal Hasan
Sgt. Hasan Akbar
What has happened to our country? I mourn for it…
Three words…
He turned Muslim.
add it to this
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Well, he was supposed to be deployed overseas, and didn’t want to go. Like all muslims, he was a coward.
He didn’t want to go to war and fight, so he killed a bunch of unarmed people to avoid being sent to Afghanistan. He chose to attack unarmed people, because he was scared of having to fight in Afghanistan. Like all muslims, he would rather attack unarmed people, than risk getting in a fair fight.
Muslims are cowards by nature, and I’m not surprised at all by the actions of this muslim.
I’m only glad that he wasn’t killed, and was taken into custody. The things that will happen to this bastard in Levenworth will be worse than death.
What do you suppose was the reason that the higher-ups in the military/govt. decided to lie about him being dead for four hours?
The things that will happen to this bastard in Levenworth will be worse than death.
I’m not so sure about that, Chuck. If he lives, and goes to Leavenworth, he’ll be locked up with other criminals, possibly other murderers.
They need to send him to Git’mo. Oh wait, we don’t send terrorists to Git’mo anymore, do we?
This is big, folks. This soldier turned on his own, just like that one who tossed the grenade into a tent in Iraq. The only difference was that this guy wasn’t in combat; he was working at a psychiatric hospital. I highly doubt he was suffering from PTSD.
Just heard a Shep Smith interview with the murderer’s cousin. He’s been in the military since before 9/11, and his greatest fear was being deployed to one of the war zones.
Now, according to the cousin, the killer wanted out of the military. What’s wrong with this picture? This guy has been in the service for a long time, and I highly doubt he was “stop-loss’ed” from leaving the Army.
Something’s fishy here…
Sad to think of, but how is Earbama gonna spin this to his political advantage?
He’ll find some way to blame President Bush for this…
Soooo, how long before we get expert commentary, in the form of a video, from bin Laden?
He should hve been disciplined, when he said, in front of reporters, that Muslims should “stand up to the agressor.”
This is why the military has the UCMJ…
This guy was Muslim?
I never heard that in the news. Oh, that’s right it is not politically correct to mention this little piece of irrelevant trivia for fear of reprisals against Muslims.
But this same news media has no ethics or qualms when it comes to releasing information that could inflame the Muslim faithful against innocent US citizens.
He was of Jordanian decent, born in the US. He is a psychiatrist, and claimed that listening to people talking about the stress of war gave him PTSD. He was recently promoted, even though he allegedly had gotten a poor review.
Wonder how much political correctness was involved in all of this.
Most amazing, the first responder who stopped him was a woman. Wonder if that affects his ability to get to “heaven” if he were to die?
The military is not a place for social engineering.
ail babba should have been out period.
this isn’t political.
this is criminal.
why not start a thread like:
“Black Serial Killer in Cleveland Voted for Obama!”
jheeze louise…
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you are from cleveland? and a serial killer?
camon you have to be pulling our leg.
No, neo, this is exactly the level of political discourse we have come to expect of orrin. Puerile, smirky, and irrelevant. I thought he was 11, till someone said he had a job.
So far we have a conspiracy theory wacko—anyone in line claiming the attack was taken out of context? Or Bush’s fault? It’s only a matter of time.
In the meantime, I think kjs is right, and that the killer was able to stay in place and a danger due to political correctness.
Mark “Henny Penny” Noonan,
Pulease, comparing this to what happened on 9/11 is ludicrous. Mr. Pet Goat is likely to be on his own forever on his reaction during a crisis.
Amazona,
Perhaps it will turn out that there were signs of instability that were ignored for the sake of PC but do you have proof of that now or are you just making things up?
“Most amazing, the first responder who stopped him was a woman.”
-kjs
Why is that amazing?
This was a terrorist attack.
“This was a terrorist attack.”
cluster
Why would that matter?
I am just calling it for what it is cam1. This is not a maybe, this is not a possibility, and this can not be spun any other way, as I know our media and liberals will try to do.
This was radical islam rearing it’s ugly head again on American soil
cluster
This was radical islam rearing it’s ugly head again on American soil
absolutely 100% correct.
cam is either to stupid to see this or is a standing member in the obamanation kneepadder army.
cluster,
So what would you do about it?
zero tolerance for muzzies.
instead of persecuting those who complained about and removing the flying imams from an aircraft.
The “imams” should have been prosecutes and if possible deported.
muslem in in the military? one strike you are out, same with immigration…you have a problem?
good here is a one way ticket home.
and by the way
the flying prayer carpets offend Christians, leave them home out of sight.
the same with the speakers playing snake charming music, it offends me turn the damn things off or play them in egypt but not here.
Ill have a DOUBLE BACON cheeseburger akbar!
neocon,
So the answer is to prosecute someone based on their religion. Sounds like Saudi Arabia. Apparently you see their system based on religious purity as superior to ours based on tolerance.
So what would you do about it? – cam1
- I would first start by not apologizing for America everywhere I go
- I would fight to win in Afghanistan
- I would tell the Iraqi govet that we would be there as long as needed
- I would get a lot a tougher with Iran
- I would also start building better relationships with Israel and France
In other words, everything that Obama is not doing
Mark: those responsible for this DO have the right to remain silent. You cannot use righteous fear and anger as an excuse to abandon our basic principles. You cannot ever force somebody to testify against themselves and maintain any semblance of a fair justice system. Just as 9/11 is an invalid justification for indiscriminate torture, Orwellian surveillance practices, and indefinite detainment, a mass murderer does not forfeit certain rights integral to our justice system simply because he is a mass-murderer. To change the rules for him is to mock our justice system which would convict him rightly anyway. If the only thing that convicts him is his forced self-incriminating testimony, then he would not have been convicted in a court of law, and the justice system will have been compromised. Mark: it is this fundamental principle upon which our country is founded that Republicans like yourself seem to fail to understand. It is the reason why John Adams defended the soldiers who participated in the Boston Massacre.
You need to understand. The Constitution was written for a reason, and is NEVER to be tossed lightly aside because one is angry, however justifiable that anger might be.
Even if Osama Bin Laden were caught tomorrow, he should not be executed without a just trial.
Don’t misconstrue my arguments here. I’m not defending murderers or terrorists. I’m merely defending the foundations of freedom.
so cluster,
You have not shown a connection between the Fort Hood incident and any of the things you propose to do about it. Further, your solutions seem to have a number of holes.
1. What is winning in Afghanistan look like and what does it accomplish since most of the Al Queda forces have moved to difficult to access areas of Pakistan?
2. Your plan does not address the Pakistan problem.
3. You don’t tell us how you would pay for such extended stays in Iraq or Afghanistan.
4. How can you get tougher with Iran, other than military invasion or is that what you would like?
5. Israel I understand though I think we should work toward a two state solution. France was always an ally though it must have amused them when we started calling French Fries something else. But what is it about France that strikes you as so important now or have you always seen France as a key partner? Is it a more conservative leader that prompts such an inclination? You do realize that Obama has raised the level of respect for America around the world and that includes France, no?
LMAO!! This is from a guy who supports the trampling of the 10th amendment.
I will tell you what fruity, the Ft Hood guy does deserve a just trial, BECAUSE he is an American.
Osama Bin Laden? Hell no!! Make him scream like a little girl, and then fry him.
cam1,
Are you sure you’re not Robert Gibbs?
What does victory look like? Much like a non-union job, something you wouldn’t understand.
Part of the stimulus can pay for our Iraq stay, that would be money much better spent. Pakistan is currently fighting a lot stronger than we are, so maybe they should help us out.
Obama has not raised the level of respect. Obama is a fucking wimp and EVERYONE knows it, with the exception of people like you, who have his cock in their mouths.
Cluster: please tell me where I stated my affirmative position regarding the destruction of the tenth amendment.
fruity,
If you support Obama, you support the trampling of the 10th, because that is exactly what he is doing. If you don’t realize that, you’re too stupid the breathe.
The idiot in chief today said that we should not jump to conclusions about this incident, but didn’t Obama jump to conclusions about the Cambridge professor and police? Without knowing the facts, as he admitted, he jump to conclusion that the police were wrong.
Obama is a train wreck. The dumbest President this country has ever had.
Cluster: your logic does not follow. Simply because I support Obama does not mean I support every action he takes. Obama supporters do not parallel Bush supporters, who did support Bush’s every action, in this regard. Secondly, I shift my question, then: please tell me where Obama stated his affirmative position regarding the destruction of the tenth amendment.
And, a train wreck he might be, but his approval rating of 56% FAR outshines he whom you consider the greatest’s 26%. Doesn’t that just make you…make you….FURIOUS?
I hardly consider Bush the greatest, I don’t know of which ass you pulled that out of.
If you support nationalized healthcare, you trample the tenth. If you support the stimulus, you trample the tenth. If you support the take over of GM, you trample the tenth.
Or maybe you don’t know what the tenth says.
The Tenth Amendment (Amendment X) of the United States Constitution, which is part of the Bill of Rights, was ratified on December 15, 1791. The Tenth Amendment restates the Constitution’s principle of federalism by providing that powers not granted to the national government nor prohibited to the states are reserved to the states or the people.
Cluster:
#1- Private Health insurance companies in no way represent the states.
#2- Neither does GM.
#3- The stimulus does not infringe upon the states’ rights. They were entitled to reject the money, and in fact, some did reject some stimulus money.
#4- Whoops, I thought you did think Bush was the greatest. My mistake.
But you still haven’t answered my question…
Peace, Love, and Understanding FTW.
You don’t get it. The 10th says nothing about private companies, it speaks to the federal government. And it most certainly DOES NOT grant the federal government the power to take over health care, GM, or to “distribute borrowed money”
Hard to believe that you actually posted that last comment.
cluster,
You have got to stop playing games with your little army men. Some problems are a little more complex. Al Qaeda is like a “cloud” organization. There is no one static base that is confined to one country. They use the internet to recruit from all over the world, primarily form North Africa, Europe and the Gulf States. Bottom line is even 100,000 troops in Afghanistan are going to be able to destroy Al Qaeda. So, we can stay there as long as we want, getting killed in a civil war that has gone on for years in Afghanistan and the end result will be the same.
If that is victory, I don’t want it.
cluster,
Obama is not the first President to propose the kind of programs you are referencing. Decades have passed and the Supreme Court has yet to take the position you are espousing.
I think you just advocated torture on
a US citizen there, Mr. Noonan.
Think about it.
tj,
If you followed the road to perdition the torture supporters have followed, you would not be surprised. You think about the serious consequences that faced the American Patriots if their plan fell through. And despite the severity of those consequences they established a constitution that gave everyone in this country very extensive rights. Can you imagine what the Constitution would look like if it was written by those with such a short supply of courage. Can you imagine all the exceptions that such fearful people would have conjured up?
Cluster: some idea that the government cannot distribute borrowed money is idiotic. Otherwise issuing bonds would be unconstitutional, and Bush would have violated the constitution in yet another way.
The constitution grants the federal government the power to regulate commerce. Sounds like bailing out GM and regulating the health insurance industry is legit to me.
frooty
“and Bush would have violated”
GET OVER it, BUSH is GONE jeese!
Neo: I’m simply saying that Bush spent borrowed money. Care to disagree? That’s what I thought.