That famed Lancet study which claimed that 650,000 Iraqis had been killed as a result of the liberation? Partially funded by anti-war, anti-Bush fanatic George Soros:
A STUDY that claimed 650,000 people were killed as a result of the invasion of Iraq was partly funded by the antiwar billionaire George Soros.
Soros, 77, provided almost half the £50,000 cost of the research, which appeared in The Lancet, the medical journal. Its claim was 10 times higher than consensus estimates of the number of war dead.
The study, published in 2006, was hailed by antiwar campaigners as evidence of the scale of the disaster caused by the invasion, but Downing Street and President George Bush challenged its methodology.
New research published by The New England Journal of Medicine estimates that 151,000 people – less than a quarter of The Lancet estimate – have died since the invasion in 2003.
“The authors should have disclosed the [Soros] donation and for many people that would have been a disqualifying factor in terms of publishing the research,” said Michael Spagat, economics professor at Royal Holloway, University of London.
The Lancet study was commissioned by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and led by Les Roberts, an associate professor and epidemiologist at Columbia University. He reportedly opposed the war from the outset.
The lies being perpetrated by the anti-war forces grow more astounding all the time – its gotten so bad that we must, henceforward, work on the assumption that any really bad report about the War on Terrorism in general, or the liberation of Iraq in particular, is – at best – incorrect and – at worst – an outright fabrication. In a way, this is entirely unsurprising – the anti-war movement’s foundation stone, as it were, is ANSWER – Act Now to Stop War and End Racism. ANSWER was formed on September 14, 2001 – a mere three days after the 9/11 attacks and its purpose, from the start, was to undermine any American effort to respond to the attacks. ANSWER’s primary founders came from the Workers World Party – a hard-core, communist party dedicated to the destruction of the United States as we know it. So hardcore is the Workers World Party that they actually have kind things to say about North Korea, and they applauded the massacre of the democrats by the Chinese government in Tienamen Square. Of course, the anti-war movement has gained adherents from all sorts of different organizations since September 14th, 2001 – but by taking their cue from ANSWER, the anti-war movement has been shot through with lies from the get-go.
I was warning leftwingers early on that they should keep their distance from any movement even remotely connected to ANSWER – it all fell on deaf ears; so eager are lefties to believe the worst about the United States that they easily swallowed whatever ANSWER peddled. Lie down with dogs, come up with fleas – and the anti-war left needs about a dozen flea collars just to get rid of the ANSWER bugs planted in their midst.
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Jeremiah,
I’m not starting an off-topic exchange, however, please feel free to quote me where I wrote that I support murdering babies.
Diana,
They are human beings, and we care very much for them – but the issue here is just how badly the anti-war left is lying about the situation in Iraq…to the anti-war left, the dead are mere props in a morality play. The plain fact of the matter is that the anti-war left wants there to be 600,000 dead…and 6,000,000 would be even better. As long as the figure could be used to indict the United States, the anti-war left is fine with it.
no – that is decisively not the issue Mark. I am reminded of a comment you made in another thread – something about how you never demonize those who disagree with you? I would ask you to reflect upon that while at the same time apparently accusing those who are against the war “wanting there to be millions dead”
Think about that while you think about those who accuse Bush of killing people in the war for his own personal amusement and how absurd that seems to you. How you cannot see the horrible horrible hypcocracy of your positions I don’t know. I would only to come to the table without such nonesense.
Mark,
I stand on my statements about how much commenters here “care very much” about the thousands of dead. They are every bit as much “props in a morality play” for the pro-war right, as amply demonstrated by the rapid deployment of various even-less-credible numbers about the large (but unknown) number of people who suffered under Saddam Hussein’s rule. It’s all about trying to call the other side liars and demonizing them. The dead are still dead and the maimed don’t care about this despicable “debate”.
Diana,
Not at all – in the struggle for freedom and basic human decency, the enemies of same will fight hard. You should be mourning the dead, and affirming that you will do everything in your power to see that they did not die in vain.
liberalT,
But it is true, or you would not have bought so easily the absurd story of 600,000 dead. You on the left latched on to that with delight shining in your eyes…
liberalT,
Try counting the million plus men, women, and children Saddam Hussein’s killed and brutally tortured — REAL TORTURE — not loud music, a cold room, and extended standing!!!
If you, Diana, and the rest of the Democrat (Liberals) had your way, Saddam’s blood bath would have continued for many years!!!
Most Iraqis would not have preferred YOUR “helpful” solution?
And we would still have had to deal with Saddam in the future!!!
AAR
Diana,
If you remember, we had a discussion here, about three days before Christmas, I can’t remember.
Anyway, you tried to argue from a standpoint of Law, of a manner in which to argue the legalities of denying a woman the right to murder her unborn child.
Listen, Diana! The ‘Law’, wasn’t meant to justify the destruction of innocent life, but to protect it. That’s the plain facts.
So, I know you’re not going to admit it, that you are indeed, for Abortion, and I’m sure it would take a tremendous leap of courage for you to admit that that’s not the case.
Really, Diana, God’s Word is pretty plain forward – ‘Choose Life.’
~ Jeremiah
Dianee..
Love your compassion for Iraqis dieing who did not ask the US to intervene in the countries affairs..
But when your country is run by a oppressive dictator, not many do actaully speak out.
Mark,
As I said, I stand by my words. Your dismissive typing of “not at all” is utterly meaningless. Your post is meant to demonize the “anti-war left” (complete with references to the highly menacing, influential and important Workers World Party). Your assertion that the “anti-war left” want to use baseless estimates of how many Iraqis have died as a consequence of our invasion finds its precise mirror in the exclamation point-riddled anxiety of commenters here to use equally imprecise estimates of how many people died under Saddam Hussein’s rule to justify our invasion.
The pro-war right commenters here want to pile up a big enough number to attribute to the person of Saddam Hussein so that they may preen with some imagined moral superiority in supporting preemptive war, a war and a doctrine which was specifically and forcefully condemned by His Holiness Pope John Paul II. However, for you there was plainly little difficulty in choosing your fealty to the person of President George W. Bush over some inconvenient opinions of the Vicar of Christ.
Buddy,
Tell that to the Iraqis who didn’t survive the events in southern Iraq in March 1991. They appreciate your post-facto support. Really. They do.
Jeremiah,
As I said, “please feel free to quote me where I wrote that I support murdering babies.” Otherwise, this is off-topic.
liberalT,
Diana is not anti-American. Riiiiiiight!!!
Add yourself, Christian Wright, and the rest of your Left-Wing Liberal (Democrat) friends to the anti-American crowd.
Anti-American groups would be proud of Diana’s anti-American “speech”, especially #36, eloquently portraying America as the “bad” guys in the worst wording she can dream up!!!
Nothing about the fact that most of those deaths and injuries were directly or indirectly the result of terrorists… nothing about the fact that that’s the same type of killing and violence al Qaeda has planned for America and Europe if we don’t stop them… nothing about what life was like under Saddam… nothing about the million plus death and torture under Saddam! No! Instead, we are entertained with yet another piece of useless anti-America propaganda to be read by the entire world!!!
Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and America’s “foreign” enemies could not have asked for any better anti-American propaganda — if they had paid for it! Who knows, perhaps they have; posts like that can be written for anywhere in the world — even atop a mountain in Pakistan!!!
And your posts… you’ve wasted perfectly good space on this blog trying to convince the world that Americans have killed more people than even the U.N., Iraq, and the press claim — also conveniently ignoring the fact that the majority of those deaths were directly or indirectly the result of terrorists… terrorists feeding on, aided, encouraged, and emboldened by the same type of Left-Wing anti-American rhetoric and propaganda we have heard from you nutty Democrats (Liberals) for more than seven years. You aren’t satisfied with the fact that not as many Iraqis have died as you would like; you want to convince the world that the “real” figures are as big as possible — all to satisfy your hatred for President Bush and America!!!
You, Diana, and the rest should submit your writings to al Qaeda. They want and need people like you who can and write and produce eloquent lies and propaganda about America!!! They’ve probably read some of your anti-American propaganda already, along with that from the rest of your looney Bush-hating, anti-American Left-Wing friends.
America doesn’t need the type of “free” speech we have heard non-stop from the Democrats (Liberals) for more than seven years now. You might as well be paid for it, so send your resumes to al Qaeda and the rest of America’s enemies. You are already doing their work for them!!!!!
AAR
The ironic things is is that Diana and the other lemmings don’t care about life one bit. They merely use death toll figures to further their agenda of attacking the easy targets.
Diana,
Since you seem to have a tremendous amount of concern and compassion for those who are losing their lives to your imagined America imperialism, would you lay your own life down for them? Actions speak louder than words. And if you truly harbor the concern and outrage that you write about daily, then I would imagine that you would put your life in front of theirs to protect them and do what’s right.
So, are you willing to die for them to protect them?
Mark – i don’t know what else to say. At some point I thought you were at least an honest person. Now I see that all you want to do is to demonize those who disagree with you as much as possible by seriously asserting that people who are against the war want as many Iraqi’s as possible dead to prove their point. You are truly the most anti-christian person I have ever met. Shame on you and may go show more mercy than I can on your sick soul..
libT,
You concern for “honesty” is hysterical. Thanks for the laughs.
Now comes AAR with all the fierce hatred and furious condemnation reserved for those who fail to show sufficient deference and fealty to the man, George W. Bush. Such people are all “anti-American” and should “send [their] resumes to al Qaeda” because the President personally embodies the nation much like the Pope is God’s representative on Earth. Ergo, anything that may even be construed as criticism of the current holder of the office of President of the United States must be met with blistering, exclamation point-spattered accusations of being “nutty”, “looney”, writers of “propaganda” who “encourage” terrorists.
What exactly have I written to spark this spew of animus?
Yes, AAR, it couldn’t have been written more eloquently by Osama bin Laden himself. I bet he’s jealous.
Diana,
I didn’t read one mention of Bush in AARs post. Hmmmmm…………
BDS?
Would you give your life for those you want to protect?
neocon,
From AAR (emphasis added), “They’ve probably read some of your anti-American propaganda already, along with that from the rest of your looney Bush-hating, anti-American Left-Wing friends.” Hmmmmm…………
Well my bad…..
But then of course you confirm his statement.
Would you give your life for those you want to protect? Otherwise it’s all pretty empty, agenda driven rhetoric isn’t?
Incidentally, I have not seen one concrete plan of action from you to address the violence against women and children around the globe that you adamantly oppose. Let’s start with Darfur. What is your plan to end the genocide? Specifically, the crimes against women and children.
Iraqis have a saying. Roughly translated it is: “Better a cold than death.”
That is how they compare the Saddam (cold) to Bush (death).
Let’s not forget neocon who fails to note the death of irony signaled by his own word choice, “…merely use death toll figures to further their agenda of attacking the easy targets.” However, neocon is more interested in gumming me with this provocative challenge:
Let me digress and cite an answer to a similar challenge to our good friend and author of the newly-published and soon-to-be-found-in-the-bargain-books-section tome, Liberal Fascism, Jonah Goldberg:
However, to answer more directly I’ll briefly relate a tale. In late summer 1981 I found myself inside a business called Inman’s Television in the Promenade Shopping Center in Richardson attempting to single-handedly arrest a man who was quite taller than me for credit card abuse, a felony, in the act. Having already been to prison before, he didn’t want a return trip.
In the process of fighting over the Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolver I was carrying at the time as a patrol officer which the suspect was vigorously attempting to take from me, the back of my head bounced off the thin layer of carpet over a concrete foundation and I saw an image of the world like an old vacuum-tube television being switched off and then right back on. The suspect stood up with his feet on both sides of my body and had the opportunity to kill me by the simple expedient of stomping in my face. However, for whatever reasons, he elected not to commit capital murder and ran from the store leaving me lying there in a semi-daze.
When the world had reappeared in my vision, I had looked up, seen the suspect and thought, “I’m going to die. I can imagine the headline, ‘Richardson Officer Slain’, and it’s going to be about me.” The relief I felt when he ran through the door was wonderful and I thought how great it would be to just lie there and let him run. However, I knew I couldn’t live with myself if I did that so I got up and ran after him until he was enough more tired than I was that I could get him under arrest without a further fight. Was I a heroine? No. I did what I was supposed to do and what I felt was necessary to do.
That wasn’t the only time I ever had a gun or a knife pulled on me. That wasn’t the only time I had to fight someone. That wasn’t the only time I had to expose myself to the potential of death or permanent injury like those here:
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When I was a reserve police officer with the Dallas Police Department from 1976-1981 reserve officers weren’t even armed. We had a badge, uniform (without body armor), handcuffs, flashlight and zero pay. I had many of my coworkers at RPD wonder what I was thinking by doing that. I don’t know, neocon, you’re so good at reading minds, what was I thinking?
Diana,
Thank you for revealing your true concern and compassion for those lives you use to further your agenda. Keep in mind, I have archived your response to use against you at a later time when you get back up on your soap box.