Soros Funding Defeatist Propaganda

That famed Lancet study which claimed that 650,000 Iraqis had been killed as a result of the liberation? Partially funded by anti-war, anti-Bush fanatic George Soros:

A STUDY that claimed 650,000 people were killed as a result of the invasion of Iraq was partly funded by the antiwar billionaire George Soros.

Soros, 77, provided almost half the £50,000 cost of the research, which appeared in The Lancet, the medical journal. Its claim was 10 times higher than consensus estimates of the number of war dead.

The study, published in 2006, was hailed by antiwar campaigners as evidence of the scale of the disaster caused by the invasion, but Downing Street and President George Bush challenged its methodology.

New research published by The New England Journal of Medicine estimates that 151,000 people – less than a quarter of The Lancet estimate – have died since the invasion in 2003.

“The authors should have disclosed the [Soros] donation and for many people that would have been a disqualifying factor in terms of publishing the research,” said Michael Spagat, economics professor at Royal Holloway, University of London.

The Lancet study was commissioned by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and led by Les Roberts, an associate professor and epidemiologist at Columbia University. He reportedly opposed the war from the outset.

The lies being perpetrated by the anti-war forces grow more astounding all the time – its gotten so bad that we must, henceforward, work on the assumption that any really bad report about the War on Terrorism in general, or the liberation of Iraq in particular, is – at best – incorrect and – at worst – an outright fabrication. In a way, this is entirely unsurprising – the anti-war movement’s foundation stone, as it were, is ANSWER – Act Now to Stop War and End Racism. ANSWER was formed on September 14, 2001 – a mere three days after the 9/11 attacks and its purpose, from the start, was to undermine any American effort to respond to the attacks. ANSWER’s primary founders came from the Workers World Party – a hard-core, communist party dedicated to the destruction of the United States as we know it. So hardcore is the Workers World Party that they actually have kind things to say about North Korea, and they applauded the massacre of the democrats by the Chinese government in Tienamen Square. Of course, the anti-war movement has gained adherents from all sorts of different organizations since September 14th, 2001 – but by taking their cue from ANSWER, the anti-war movement has been shot through with lies from the get-go.

I was warning leftwingers early on that they should keep their distance from any movement even remotely connected to ANSWER – it all fell on deaf ears; so eager are lefties to believe the worst about the United States that they easily swallowed whatever ANSWER peddled. Lie down with dogs, come up with fleas – and the anti-war left needs about a dozen flea collars just to get rid of the ANSWER bugs planted in their midst.

124 thoughts on “Soros Funding Defeatist Propaganda

  1. AAR's avatar AAR January 14, 2008 / 11:27 am

    Diana,

    We don’t need your kind of anti-American hatred and Bush-bashing spread all around the world… providing fodder for our enemies and tarnishing America’s image among our friends!

    Your misleading lies and propaganda, and that of Democrats (Liberals) like you, are exactly what Osama bin Laden, Al Qaeda like to, and countries like Iran like and want to hear!!!

    You work to tear America down throughout the world, but sadly, you probably can’t even comprehend or understand the impact or results of your actions. After all they are “only hate filled words”, right?!!!

    But that’s all right, Hillary, Obama, or some other Democrat will have their day and time in the limelight!!!

    What exactly have I written to spark this spew of animus?

    Sadly… you don’t have the faintest clue!   TYPICAL LIBERAL!!!

    AAR

  2. neocon's avatar neocon January 14, 2008 / 11:29 am

    >>>I don’t know, neocon, you’re so good at reading minds, what was I thinking? – Diana<<<

    I am unable to read liberally indoctrinated and damaged minds. Sorry.

  3. neocon's avatar neocon January 14, 2008 / 11:35 am

    AAR,

    Diana doesn’t have any plans to actually help our global neighbors, specifically the women and children she seems to care so much about. Diana is perfectly comfortable behind her keyboard spewing venom to, and denigrating those who have actually put together those plans.

    Death and destruction are okay with her as long as she has someone to blame for it from her couch.

  4. AAR's avatar AAR January 14, 2008 / 11:41 am

    neocon,

    Diana is nothing more than a Democrat (Liberal) propagandist.

    She doesn’t care what effect her words, actions, and deeds may have on America. That’s beyond her comprehension. She only cares about her Liberal causes.

    In her mind, as with all Liberals, the end justifies the means — no matter who it hurts or kills!!!

    AAR

  5. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 11:46 am

    Keep in mind, I have archived your response to use against you at a later time when you get back up on your soap box.

    Thank you, neocon. Your words prove the exact point of why I even commented on this thread. It’s all about score-keeping and denouncing your enemies. The Iraqi dead? As Mark said, “props in a morality play” much like your serial usage of the crisis in Darfur.

    What about the crisis in Darfur? I know. I’ll use my authority as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States to intervene to stop the fighting! Oh, wait. Somebody else is holding that position in trust right now. Maybe they have a “plan” or, maybe, not so much…

    So, I told you something of what I’ve done with my body in service of others. How about you? Once again, what’s your story?

  6. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 12:04 pm

    Oops. Spoke too soon. Irony started to stagger back up and AAR delivered the coup de grâce with this gem, “In her mind, as with all Liberals, the end justifies the means — no matter who it hurts or kills!!!”

    AAR, let me acquaint you with a bit of the Catechism of the Catholic Church. This is the part forcefully articulated by His Holiness Pope John Paul II prior to March 2003. Mark is a faithful Roman Catholic and should be rather familiar with it (emphasis added):

    2308 All citizens and all governments are obliged to work for the avoidance of war.

    However, “as long as the danger of war persists and there is no international authority with the necessary competence and power, governments cannot be denied the right of lawful self-defense, once all peace efforts have failed.”

    2309 The strict conditions for legitimate defense by military force require rigorous consideration. The gravity of such a decision makes it subject to rigorous conditions of moral legitimacy. At one and the same time:

    – the damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;

    – all other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;

    – there must be serious prospects of success;

    – the use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated. The power of modem means of destruction weighs very heavily in evaluating this condition.

    These are the traditional elements enumerated in what is called the “just war” doctrine.

    The evaluation of these conditions for moral legitimacy belongs to the prudential judgment of those who have responsibility for the common good.

    __________

    Source: http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c2a5.htm#2307

  7. neocon's avatar neocon January 14, 2008 / 12:11 pm

    >>>What about the crisis in Darfur? I know. I’ll use my authority as Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States to intervene to stop the fighting! – Diana<<<<

    Yet you feel it is your obligation to use your authority as an American to denounce and call for the withdrawal from Iraq. So why not use that same voice to call for action to stop the genocide in Darfur. Or better yet, go there yourself to intervene. Afterall, your #37 post was inspiring and someone with that much concern, should be personally involved.

    I keep archives because the dishonesty from our resident liberals needs to be exposed, and you guys bank on everyone not remembering your diatribe from post to post. I will hold you to account.

  8. neocon's avatar neocon January 14, 2008 / 12:22 pm

    #36 post, excuse me.

  9. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 12:29 pm

    So, AAR, did Pope John Paul II “encourage terrorists” and should all the members of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome “send [their] resumes to al Qaeda”? After all, they don’t accept the Bush Doctrine (emphasis added):

    The greater the threat, the greater is the risk of inaction— and the more compelling the case for taking anticipatory action to defend ourselves, even if uncertainty remains as to the time and place of the enemy’s attack. To forestall or prevent such hostile acts by our adversaries, the United States will, if necessary, act preemptively.

    __________

    Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/nsc/nss5.html

    Sounds to me like real Roman Catholics must be “anti-American” and the enemy, too, don’t you think?

  10. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 12:38 pm

    I keep archives because the dishonesty from our resident liberals needs to be exposed, and you guys bank on everyone not remembering your diatribe from post to post. I will hold you to account

    How J. Edgar Hoover-ish of you, neocon! Don’t you just yearn for the good old days of HUAC?

    Or better yet, go there yourself to intervene. After all, your #37 post was inspiring and someone with that much concern, should be personally involved.

    Maybe I should since apparently the President of the United States doesn’t seem overly concerned. Of course, you’re terribly, terribly concerned. You just can’t stop talking about it. I’m sure you’re taking action on it, aren’t you? Planning a trip? After all, if you weren’t, you’d just be proving my original point in all of this, wouldn’t you?

  11. neocon's avatar neocon January 14, 2008 / 12:47 pm

    Diana,

    I am not the one who stood on the soap box to profess their concern for the worlds citizens in harms way, specifically those woman and children.

    Now we see a different side of you all within a few minutes. Didn’t take long for your hypocrisy to show now did it?

  12. David.B.Schmidt's avatar David.B.Schmidt January 14, 2008 / 12:59 pm

    Mark,

    You will need to forgive these lost souls. It took me nearly five decades (including one serving in the Marines) to learn that the only item I know for a fact is that I don’t know anything. Diane’s opinion is wrong from my point of view as mine is probably wrong from hers.

    LiberalIT is, as TiredofLibBullShit (I believe) stated, is a perfect example of being a useful idiot because he *requires* everyone else to spoon feed him facts. Then again, I mentioned that pesky little word that drives the liberals nuts—facts. Does it help if I state that I can “feel” your pain?

    No worry at all from them about the world-wide push (just like the crusades) and deaths by islamo-facsits. Just Iraq. Not even Afghanistan and the Taliban. Philippines, S.E. Asia or the declaration of war after the bombing of the Beirut barracks in 1983. Before you berate, please join me every year as I honor those fifty plus dead (out of 241) Marines as part of the USMNF that I personally buried including both friends and mentors.

    BTW, for the dissenters here–if you ever served in the military and was sent out and about where “bad guys” actually shoot to kill you—your disloyalty to the US and our armed forces would be obvious. But you haven’t and I don’t count being a local police officer is even close. In harm’s way on behalf of your country is different from on behalf of your county in many ways.

    Hell, for the most part you haven’t even figured out that if you are defeated then we will be victorious; hence Blogs for Victory. You have no real concept of Win & Lose. Black & White.

    Oh, Hell – we are all winners…group hug everyone? You do understand sarcasm-yes?

    There are a few things one should think about before claiming defeat on behalf of those of us that have fought to protect the American way of life;

    Aristotle once stated” We make war that we may live in peace”.

    GWB stated “No, I know all the war rhetoric, but it’s all aimed at achieving peace.”

    John Stuart Mill stated “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

    Benjamin Franklin stated: “There never was a good war or a bad peace.”

    But of the most importance…

    It is the soldier, not the reporter, Who has given us freedom of the press.

    It is the soldier, not the poet, Who has given us freedom of speech.

    It is the soldier, not the organizer, Who has given us the freedom to demonstrate.

    It is the soldier, Who salutes the flag, Who serves beneath the flag,

    And whose coffin is draped by the flag, Who allows the protestor to burn the flag.

    – Father Dennis Edward O’Brian, USMC (often incorrectly attributed to Charles M. Province)

    God bless those that serve, have served, and have given all for all. All for those which we have sworn to protect.

    -David

  13. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 1:05 pm

    necon,

    So, you’re not concerned about Darfur? It’s just more of this (quoting myself):

    They are a number, still climbing, which can be argued back and forth in service of some imagined advantage in the form of a few words on an obscure website which will be countered and countered again until the bodies are no longer of interest and can be shoved back into the closet until the next time they can be used in service of another argument.

    Carry on with your terribly, terribly concerned life of sacrifice and putting yourself in harms way.

  14. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 1:34 pm

    David,

    Thank you for your service in the Corps. My youngest nephew, J. D. Powe, is a heavy machine gun operator currently stationed in Haditha, Iraq who works from a position atop an MTVR. It genuinely saddens me that you feel impelled to equate the exercise of a fundamental American freedom, protected and secured by the First Amendment to the Constitution, as “disloyalty to the US and our armed forces”. I worked with a lot of Marines (even some from the Air Wing) at RPD and to a man, I would never expect such a statement from them. Quite frankly, they would find the idea that I’m anti-military to be completely laughable.

    Your denigration of the work of municipal police officers reminds me of the old (and frankly stupid) bumper sticker, “Don’t like the police. Next time, call a hippie.” As I and my fellow officers often noted, “Back the Blue” bumper stickers usually were good until the first traffic ticket. I hope things are going well for you.

  15. sam's avatar sam January 14, 2008 / 2:04 pm

    neoconartist,

    who cares how many iraqi citizens died right?? Don’t worry, what goes around comes around. just as your pathetic army and marines lost in Vietnam, they will lose in Iraq.

    Give it time, defeat will come, your people don’t have the guts and the will to fight a protracted war. I can’t wait to see what happens to you when your soldiers come back home because congress can’t gut it out any longer…..hahahahaha…Losers.

  16. AAR's avatar AAR January 14, 2008 / 2:43 pm

    Diana,

    There you go again, trying to play the “Christian” card to justify your own Bush-hatred and America-bashing words and actions (and those of your Liberal friends”)!

    It’s one thing to disagree with a policy or action. It’s quite another do so in the manner in which you Democrats (Liberals) have done incessantly for seven plus years.

    I have never heard the Pope say the things about America we have heard each and every day from Democrats… and he’s not an American.

    As I said, al Qaeda could not have bought a better anti-American group, campaign, and media spectacle than that which you Democrats have provided the world!!!

    AAR

  17. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 3:07 pm

    AAR,

    “Playing the ‘Christian’ card”? Don’t you think it’s rather misdirected to attack me instead of His Holiness Pope John Paul II who said this on January 13, 2003 as the drumbeat for an invasion of Iraq got louder and louder in this country?

    “NO TO WAR”! War is not always inevitable. It is always a defeat for humanity. International law, honest dialogue, solidarity between States, the noble exercise of diplomacy: these are methods worthy of individuals and nations in resolving their differences. I say this as I think of those who still place their trust in nuclear weapons and of the all-too-numerous conflicts which continue to hold hostage our brothers and sisters in humanity. At Christmas, Bethlehem reminded us of the unresolved crisis in the Middle East, where two peoples, Israeli and Palestinian, are called to live side-by-side, equally free and sovereign, in mutual respect. Without needing to repeat what I said to you last year on this occasion, I will simply add today, faced with the constant degeneration of the crisis in the Middle East, that the solution will never be imposed by recourse to terrorism or armed conflict, as if military victories could be the solution. And what are we to say of the threat of a war which could strike the people of Iraq, the land of the Prophets, a people already sorely tried by more than twelve years of embargo? War is never just another means that one can choose to employ for settling differences between nations. As the Charter of the United Nations Organization and international law itself remind us, war cannot be decided upon, even when it is a matter of ensuring the common good, except as the very last option and in accordance with very strict conditions, without ignoring the consequences for the civilian population both during and after the military operations.

    __________

    Source: http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/speeches/2003/january/documents/hf_jp-ii_spe_20030113_diplomatic-corps_en.html

    Yes, how dastardly of me to drag the Holy Father into such a serious, adult discussion of how many thousands upon thousands of Iraqis have died. After all, he was only the head of the Roman Catholic Church at the time. We should have seen him for what he was, right, an anti-American provider of encouragement to terrorists? After all, what country do you think he was talking about in reference to Iraq? Madagascar?

  18. Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah January 14, 2008 / 3:19 pm

    If the American people could see the bone-chilling threats outlined in the [classified] cable traffic concerning al-Qa’ida and other Islamist terror networks, there would be little dissension about our military mission.

    ~ Jeremiah

  19. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 3:22 pm

    Wow, Jeremiah, do you get to read those “bone-chilling threats”? Also, are you onboard with naming Pope John Paul II as an anti-American enboldener of terrorist for his 2003 statements?

  20. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 3:38 pm

    How about then-Cardinal Ratzinger, now His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI, in May of 2003? (emphasis added)

    Q: Eminence, a topical question that in a certain sense is inherent to the Catechism: Does the Anglo-American war against Iraq fit the canons of a “just war”?

    Cardinal Ratzinger: The Pope expressed his thought with great clarity, not only as his individual thought but as the thought of a man who is knowledgeable in the highest functions of the Catholic Church. Of course, he did not impose this position as doctrine of the Church but as the appeal of a conscience enlightened by faith.

    The Holy Father’s judgment is also convincing from the rational point of view: There were not sufficient reasons to unleash a war against Iraq. To say nothing of the fact that, given the new weapons that make possible destructions that go beyond the combatant groups, today we should be asking ourselves if it is still licit to admit the very existence of a “just war.”

    __________

    Source: http://www.zenit.org/article-7161?l=english

    What about it? Anti-American? Encouraging terrorists?

  21. Jeremiah's avatar Jeremiah January 14, 2008 / 3:55 pm

    Also, are you onboard with naming Pope John Paul II as an anti-American enboldener of terrorist for his 2003 statements?

    Well, he conclusion when he says this, and you highlighted those words yourself–except as the very last option and in accordance with very strict conditions,

    And we did, there were two worthy reasons as justification for war.

    1. September 11, 2001.

    2. A brutal dictator, Saddam Huseinn was murdering people. Oh, you know, stuff like sending women and children through highspeed wood chippers feet first!! Slitting their throats!! Beating them with metal objects!!! Kicking them!! Starving them!!! Raping them!!!Gouging their eyes out!!! Cutting their tongues out!!! Burning them!!! Pulling their hair out!!! Poisoning them!!! Gassing them!!! Making them eat feces, and drink their own urine, pulling their teeth with plyers, taking hands, fingers, and limbs completely off, etc, etc, etc, etc.

    Now, if you can’t see that as a reason to go over there and do something about it. You’re a foolish person.

    The only reason, that you don’t believe in terrorism is, you’re blined by the fog of the hatred that you have for President Bush, because he’s a Christian. You people can’t stand the name of Jesus, or anybody that has anything to do with Jesus.

    Contrary to anything else you want to say, Diana … The Lord has empowered the United States to help those who are less fortunate, such as those in Iraq, and other places, and they seem to be doing well now.

    What if it had been anybody else, say like Bill or Hillary Clinton, or George Soros, or John Kerry at the time of these tragedies occurring? Well, all I can say to that is, God help the U.S. of A. and the poor people of Iraq. It’s hard to tell how many people would have died from Saddam’s torture dungeons, and terrorist attacks around the globe.

    We are blessed to have George W. Bush as our 43rd President, there will never be another one like him.

    Now, I want to tell you, I’m sick and fed up with hearing you people slander the President, I want you to knock it off. If you people can’t see it in your hearts to help people, and protect, and take pride in the True America, that was fought for and defended by so many generations past…Then get out!!!

    ~ Jeremiah

  22. David.B.Schmidt's avatar David.B.Schmidt January 14, 2008 / 4:43 pm

    Diana,

    Please don’t misinterpret my statements as coloring you as anti-military, nor me as anti-police. Email and blogs are a tough way to get one’s point across. I was attempting to state that when one (U.S. Armed forces) member hears the dissension from U.S. citizens while the aforementioned member of the military is in harm’s way – it cuts quite deeply. Just my humble opinion.

    I respect and support our law enforcement officers to the highest degree; however, I was stating there is a difference between the professions while trying to degrade neither. I, as a former Marine, was subject to the chance of being taken prisoner without the rights afforded to citizens (and non-citizens) of the suspects within the U.S.

    Honestly, you and the rest of the “Thin blue line” deserve our praise and admiration. I am behind you 100% which you don’t seem to be when it comes to our military. Lambaste the people that make the decisions—not those that carry out the orders. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that this is what you meant; however, others are not so kind.

    I fully support the 1st amendment as I was one of them that put forth the effort and belief that it was worth putting my life on the line for.

    Thank you for the concern about my well being and I hope you are also doing well.

    -David S.

    P.S., tell your nephew to pick up one of them new .50 cal sniper rifles—great backup when compared to the bull barrel .30 cals we had. 😉 Works on them “Swing with the Wing” folks just as well…okay, my friend (winger) is kicking my ass in Fantasy Football but no bad intentions as of yet.

    P.S.S. I’m for Fred Thompson who has a political plank of “Punch the hippies”, right after “Secure the borders” & “Kill the terrorists” – I think IMAO

  23. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 4:46 pm

    Jeremiah,

    Theodore “Teddy” Roosevelt, Jr., Governor, President, Republican writing in the Kansas City Star in 1918:

    The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.

    __________

    Source: http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/life/quotes.htm

  24. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe January 14, 2008 / 4:57 pm

    David,

    I agree that nuanced expression in blogs and emails can be quite tricky. I appreciate you comments about policing and, I can assure you, that I have the natural and organic respect for those who wear our nation’s uniform that comes from an immediate family with four members who have served (father, three older brothers and my youngest nephew) along with many friends and coworkers, both in combat and during peacetime. The criticisms I have for decisions that have been made, that the military responds to, have nothing to do with the honor that accrues to those who faithfully carry out those decisions in accordance with the Constitution and the finest traditions of our services. As I said before, thank you for making the commitment and serving the nation.

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