The headline:
33 Palestinians Killed in Israeli Raid in Gaza
The actual story:
Israel pulled its troops and settlers out of the tiny seaside territory in late 2005, but militants proceeded to fire rockets from the abandoned territory at Israeli communities.
Hamas, which is sworn to Israel’s destruction, took control of Gaza by force from the rival Fatah in June.
Israeli government spokesman David Baker said Israel was ”compelled to continue to take these defensive measures” to protect more than 200,000 Israelis living under the threat of Palestinian rocket barrages.
Militants ”hide behind their own civilians, using them as human shields, while actively targeting Israeli population centers,” Baker said. ”They bear the responsibility for the results.”
The actual story is buried on page two of the report. The headline should read, for mere accuracy, Israelis Respond to Hamas Attacks – but that would be fair and accurate, and the MSM doesn’t allow that in reporting about Israel.
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Hamas always lies, while Israel never does.
It’s so much simpler that way, n’est pas?
The left made no complaints as Hamas pounded Israeli towns with rockets day after day injuring and killing nothing but civilians. But let the Palestinians suffer some casualties when Israel tries to stop the rocket attacks, and its all whining and cursing of the Jews. Israel tries to make its military actions for a purpose which is normally to stop rocket attacks. Seems like the Palis would get the message. But with the MSM and the left on their side, the Israelis don’t stand a chance at getting a fair shake. If the Palis keep it up, Israel will invade and there will be a major fight. Not many people doubt the outcome of that fight. The leadership in Israel says they would not like to see it happen but are not afraid to do it if they have to.
congressive,
Did anyone claim that? No – just pointing out that the headline makes it looks like Israel just went on in and killed a bunch of Palestinians for no identifiable reason…the truth of the matter is that Israel is responding to extreme provocation and the headline should have noted that.
Michael,
When American liberalsim hooked up with ANSWER at the start of the so-called “anti-war” movement, they took in a whole bunch of baleful things – including the far left’s rank anti-Semitism.
I guess if its OK for you to complain about the left’s rank anti Semitism it would be OK for me to complain about your rank anti-intellectualism. Will that get me in trouble again?
It’s interesting that a blog that supports an administration that likes to ignore the will of its people, should fail to report that the majority of the Israeli people are sick of the fighting and would prefer a truce:
Very telling…
rank anti-intellectualism? You mean the lemming like group think you people offer as an excuse for thought these days? The ceaseless chants-of-the-day you all join in without any personal thought at all?
I don’t even like Israel all that much. But purposely shooting rockets at a civilian area from a civilian area and dressed as civilians is a war crime. Thats IF you accept Hamas as legitimate armed forces. If you don’t , then its simply mass murder.
Ever been there, when the rockets fall? Ever been anywhere?
You may find that the conservative posters here are fairly well educated, fairly well traveled, and have often served in the military. We get sick of your ignorant rantings. Lose the prejudice and unjustified arrogance. Try communicating your positions and solutions to issues.
Or, am I misunderstanding what rank intellectualism actually means?
Arctic, well yes they WOULD prefer a truce. They have offered deals to the Palestinians several times. The response has been murdered school children and random rockets.
What would you suggest Israel do? Die? Go away (to where?)? Surrender (and die or go away)?
What is your plan? Please, enlighten us with your enormous liberal brain.
Hmm, do you want to talk war crimes, Kahn? From the same BBC report as before:
Now nobody is saying that two wrongs make a right, but if you’re talking about war crimes then be fair. Don’t ignore one side in favour of the other, when they’re both as bad as one another.
@Kahn: I know this is terribly controversial… but couldn’t they actually TALK to one another? You know, there IS something called peace, bad as that is for the weapons companies.
We’re seeing the same “can’t surrender” rhetoric here that we’re seeing with talk about the Iraq war, but it’s not always that black and white. Why does ANYONE have to surrender, if you can find people on both sides who want peace? No one side needs to be defeated, if both can be pursuaded to call off the war.
Might I remind you that Mr Bush’s middle eastern peace plan also involves Israel accepting a Palestinian state. The warmongers in Israel don’t want that in exactly the same way as the warmongers in Gaza would like to “defeat” Israel.
There’s no need for an “enormous liberal brain” or an enormous anything brain. All that’s needed is the will to compromise.
There’s nothing like a lot of Americans expounding on what Israel ought to be doing or not doing with their own land and lives. So what do actual Israelis living in Israel think about negotiating with Hamas? Israel’s oldest newspaper, Haaretz, commissioned a poll this past Tuesday:
I’m just guessing, but I have a feeling that such sentiments just won’t do for some Americans living in America who comment here.
Arctic – you offer no context for the above reports. Those sentnces as printed do not prove war crimes. They do prove war.
If a Hamas Guerrilla is hiding in your house, then it is a valid target and HE committed the crime. Don’t you get that? Hamas PURPOSELY hides behind civilians. They PURPOSELY attack civilians. THOSE are crimes.
And Israel HAS tried to talk to the Palestinians. They constantly try. But Hamas is in their charter dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Whats to talk about? Israel HAS offered deals. The ONLY deal the Palestinians offer is go away and/or die.
Israel has also said they would welcome a Palestinian state. BUT, the Palestinians STILL have not said they would accept an Israeli state. Give me a break – OK? Israel has tried to make peace and their overtures have been rejected. The Palestinian “Peace” offer is and has consistently been the destruction of Isreael.
You like to cut-n-paste, I see. Tell you what. You post the Hamas proposal for peace. Really, you post it and I’ll read it. Not their complainst. Not your rants. What actually is the Hamas Peace plan?
From Kahn:
“Arctic, well yes they WOULD prefer a truce. They have offered deals to the Palestinians several times. The response has been murdered school children and random rockets.”
Followed by:
“Arctic – you offer no context for the above reports.”
Okay, so, where is your context for your comment?
“Tell you what. You post the Hamas proposal for peace. Really, you post it and I’ll read it. Not their complainst. Not your rants. What actually is the Hamas Peace plan?”
Well, guess what? Full circle. Back to “Media Bias” – what media organization has actually bothered to publish any? And if they go near that, then they’re “anti-Israel MSM that is biased in favour of those Palestinian terrorist.”
The whole complaint this blog entry was about relates to bias, and yet we have bias in not reporting anything to do with Hamas wanting peace, because that would make it a lot harder for warmongers to dismiss them as terrorists.
So now, I’m not going to post it, because I haven’t seen it – but that does not mean it does not exists. Just because I can’t read the papers in Gaza doesn’t mean that people writing there about peace automatically don’t exist.
In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if Hamas’ plan for peace at least partly agreed with Mr Bush’s middle east peace plan. An independent state for Palestine that is accepted and acknowledged by Israel.
Who is Hamas?
Source
I’m sure they have plenty to discuss to get to a peace agreement.
As I said, not much interest among Americans living in America about what Israelis living in Israel might want their country to do about negotiating with Hamas. What do they know? They just live there.
Its pretty mindless to negotiate with terrorists. Haratz is not really that good of a source. Just look at our own MSM, if everything they wrote and distributed were true, the US would have self destructed in the 60s. They are, pretty much, FOS.
Isreal shows amazing restraint. Since the Hamas took over the Gaza Strip in mid-June 2007 until 26 February 2008, 838 rockets and 937 mortar bombs have been fired at Sderot and the western Negev. No other nation on earth would put up with that. It would be an all out war, and deportation of every non Israeli in the Gaza and West Bank. No nation on earth has “any” right to condemn Israel.
Not even Haratz stopped the missles. Its pretty far fetched that most of Israel wants it to go on, DP. What an insult to intelligence. Congratulations, you get the booby award.
From Israel’s disengagement from the Gaza Strip in mid-August 2005 until the Hamas takeover of the Gaza Strip 1,826 missiles were fired into Israeli territory from Gaza, as follows:
15 August – 31 December 2005: 270
1 January – 31 December 2006: 1020
1 January – 14 June 2007: 536
They want what? Sure isnt peace.
“All that’s needed is the will to compromise.” AF
The Isrealis have shown this will countless times. Hamas has not, and have said they never will But I guess that doesn’t count to leftists like you. its the fault of those evil Joooos.
Thats 3400 separate, intentional attacks against Israel from 15 Aug 05 through 26 Feb 08, just over 30 months, averaging “over” 100 every Month. And you want every one to believe that Israeli’s think MORE negotiations will stop it? HAHAHAAAA!! thats stupid.
If that happened in the USA, we would manage to outfit a 1 million man Armed force in no time at all and put a hard stop on it.
Not that I’m really surprised, but it’s almost reassuring in a perverse way to know that the conservative-as-victim complaint about purported media bias extends thousands of miles across the Atlantic and the length of the Mediterranean. “No need to pay any attention to that Israeli paper that’s 90 years old commissioning a public opinion poll by a professor of Tel Aviv University, it’s biased,” says the American conservative.
US Congressional panel recognizes the “forgotten” Jewish refugees from Arab lands
February 29, 2008, 10:55 AM (GMT+02:00)
The resolution unanimously approved by the House Foreign Affairs Committee Thursday, Feb. 29, recognizes the “over 850,000 Jews put to flight from Arab countries” in 1948 as refugees, no less than their Palestinian counterparts, who they outnumber.
The US president is urged to ensure that when the Middle refugee issue is discussed in international forums, any reference to Palestinian refugees be matched by a similarly explicit reference to expelled Jewish populations.
Sometimes we forget the other half of the truth. Why should Arabs get justice, when the Jews are forgotten? Most of the Jews lost ton’s more, generations that had lived in those nations over hundreds, if not more than a thousand years, and all of thier belongings, bank accounts, and businesses, snatched right out from under them. In comparison, the majority of the Arabs in the Palestine territory were migratory labor, living from work they secured from Jews.
What a concept, equal and just. Now why should anyone expect that?
Oh cmon DP.
Now you lips are flappin in the wind, they keep moving, an nothing but meaningless rhetoric comes out.
Were you aware of that….