The more we learn, the less we like:
Barack Obama had been a presidential candidate for more than a year before he outright repudiated his long-time pastor for racially charged, anti-U.S. sermons. But when talk show host Don Imus was in hot water 11 months ago for racially insensitive comments, Obama was the first candidate to call for his firing.
When asked about the different responses to his pastor and to Imus, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor questioned the premise of the comparison and defended Obama’s response in each case.
“He spoke out both times, so it’s entirely consistent,” he told FOXNews.com Tuesday.
Obama’s people must think we’re all idiots – or, knowing that for now only the lefties matter (ie, for the nomination) they realise that idiocy will go over well with their core supporters, and they figure the rest of us will forget this stuff by September. “Spoke out both times” doesn’t cut it, Vietor…he called for Imus to be fired for a poorly crafted joke…Wright goes on endless, racist, anti-American rants and Obama de-facto says he’s just a bit out there from time to time…
hyp·o·crite – noun – 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Or, failing that, just a picture of Obama will do…
js,
I see your tin foil hat is strapped on tight. Here is what you are proposing.
Barack Obama has managed to gain the support from a wide range of Americans from every ethic and racial category all the while being a racist.
Does this seem plausible to you? If so I have some magic beans to sell you.
What you should do now is admit to what you are doing. You don’t believe Obama is a racist. You are plaing Gotcha! You are ignoring all other evidence and focusing on a single event so you can claim “victory” over other on this site and make yourself feel good. This is pretty sad, js.
What makes this go from sad to pathetic is that you and others on here are simply concluding Wright remarks are racist. What is racist about pointing out the truth that there exists inequality in the United States amongst whites and blacks and whites still hold prejudices against blacks?
This is not the same as voicing a belief in one’s racial superiorty.
There is also the notion that if whites celebrated our race and congregated together we would be deemed racist.
This doesn’t take into account that our nation is one largely defined by whites. We celebrate our race by putting white men on our money and teaching history in our schools about whites. Our schools still teach books mostly written by white authors.
Simply put, by being the majority race we have been the major engine that shaped American society, culture, and history.
There is nothing particularly wrong with this but it does mean that when you start a club celebrating being white you are in fact seen to be starting a club to further the idea of your race’s superiority. I don’t think this is an unfair presumption and it is a presumption you can overcome.
Minorities, on the other hand, are assumed to have start clubs based on racial backgrounds out of a need to confront issues facing them in a society where they are the racial minority. By and large I think this is the motive behind most of these kinds of clubs. They are, in short, a way to create an identity.
Writing this I realize every conservative on here will dismiss this as the talk of a pointy-headed liberal who got too much education in one of our indocrination centers aka universities.
I cannot alter your mind but I can put the ideas before you so later you cannot claim ignorance.
This blog is a friggin’ train wreck.
Yet you keep wasting your time here, Joe. Why not attend americablog.com, where you’ll be heralded as an intellectual? Here, you’re just another troll puke.
Sooooo, now Earbama’s associations include Wright, Rezko, Ayers, Sharpton, and Meeks. Gee, one must wonder about his association with Screwie Louie…
What,
I would never accuse you of receiving too much education. You are also doing a wonderful job of spinning the dilemma Obama and the Democrats now find themselves in after not scrutinizing Obama enough on his way to the nomination.
There is no question that Wrights declarative statements are anti-semitic and racist. There also isn’t any doubt that Obama has not done a good job of addressing the matter, hence his drop in popularity polls in the last week.
And it’s not the conservatives that Obama and Obamabots need to watch out for, it’s the Clintons. They’ll have a field day with this.
Good luck.
73. What?
poor what?
you just cant figure it out
your barking up a dead tree
thats not a coon up there, its your imagination
billy boy was in a situation, or should we say, several situations, long before he ran for president too
they did a very, very good job of hiding the truth from people
so far, obama has followed suit
he has done his darnedest to ignore them when they are spoken of, kind of like you
and now that they are becoming more of an issue, he tries to spin them, kind of like billy clinton
and you
so
in reality, argue as hard as you can, go What? go!! see the earbama lie? WHAT? believe it, because thats in your nature.
you are not alone though
there are millions of gullible people out there
MILLIONS
should I say “WHAT?”
js, turns out Obama did write the speech himself. Can you imagine Bush or McCain being able to do that?
Diane,
Actually, I’m far better with beef stew and an old Scottish recipe (long story) for spaghetti than I am with barbecue…
You cover a lot of ground there, but lets just tackle the important bit – no one deserves salvation. There is nothing any one of us can do to make right all the sins we’ve done and it is only by grace of God that we can attain salvation. So, given this, my hope is that you, I, Wright, Obama and Donohue are all one day under a glorious light in the life of the world to come, laughing at our earthbound differences.
Meanwhile, though, we must try to do the best we can – and in this area, Obama is falling short. And as his is a public figure who aspires to lead all of us, I have every right to question him on such things, and demand answers.
When Imus made his vulgar joke – which was probably the 10,000th vulgar joke to appear on his show – Obama had a choice to make…he could ignore Imus, call for Imus to be fired or otherwise sanctioned, or he could remember what he heard in Church the Sunday before and realise that here was a chance to heal divisions rather than pour salt into sociological wounds. Obama chose to dogpile on Imus – and given what he must have heard in his own church, this makes Obama a hypocrit…it also, by the way, makes him that oh, so typical political specimen: the man who will literally say or do anything to get ahead.
Does anyone really think that Imus is a racist? That Imus intended to cause racial offense? Anyone who does is a knave of the worst order. Obama could have said, “Imus made a vulgar joke, and he should apologise to those ladies; but let us also look at the increasing vulgarity throughout our society, and ask ourselves if we cannot correct this.” But Obama choose to play the race card – even though he was throwing stones in the most amazing of glass houses.
Diana,
Oh, just saw your #20 – you get worse as you go along.
Quoting the racist Cornel West in defense of Obama’s defense of the racist Jeremiah Wright…that is pretty low.
78. bongoman | March 19th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
js, turns out Obama did write the speech himself
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sure
clinton always tried to take credit for everything too, its not obama, its his ego
should i say the word gullible again about this stuff?
wake up jr.
some assembly required,
“yes but any intelligent person knows that these are not just sins in the past.They are still going on in society.To try and take a moral stance that racism has been eliminated from the US is ridiculous.”
What is ridiculous is this statement.
Please show me where I made such a claim that there is no racism in the US.Any intelligent person would know how to read,something you can’t do apparently.
You and your liberal friends have not one credible reply for Obama’s support for a man
that he called his “mentor”,”his spiritual advisor”,and
also served on Obama’s advisory committee,but who also believes:
“If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community. . . . Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. ”
Your weak attempts to excuse the bigotry and racism that Obama supported for 20 years with
the crime of slavery and segregation is pathetic.
You take great pains to express how terrible the separatist and racist ways that blacks have been treated in this country by excusing and defending the
the separatist and bigoted ways of Reverend Wright.
What unbelievable sanctimonious bull$hit
Reverend Wright was the leader of a church with a
an estimated 8,000 parishioners in This “America of KKK.”
Reverend Wright is a wealthy man and does not have to go to segregated bathrooms,fountains,and
to the back of the bus in this “God dam# America”
Obama and his wife are very wealthy,have a beautiful home, family and received an excellent
education in this “America of KKK.”
Obama is a US Senator,and probably will have the
Democratic nomination for President in this “God dam# America.”
They like many Americans be they White,Brown,Black,Beige or whatever race or gender
have achieved success and happiness through hard
work and ambition.
This is not because America is “just like al-qaeda”
or “where white folks greed runs a country of greed.”
It is because this is truly the land of Freedom and
opportunity.
It is why people from China,India,Mexico,Europe
Cuba,South America and many others immigrate
here by the millions.
Do we have problems with race,crime,economic
and socially?
He!! yes we do.
Is teaching separatism and bigotry and telling lies
about this country going to bring us together and solve these problems?
He!! no it won’t.It will divide us and stir hatred and
resentment.
You liberals are very much on the record of excusing this bigotry because of your ideology and
political ambition.You are going to have a real hard
time being taken seriously the next time you get
your panties up in a wad because someone has the
audacity to refer to someone as a “nappy headed hoe” or dares to talk about someone eating chicken
and watermelon(one of my favorite meals by the way).
To defend someone who supports :What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal.” is pathetic and sickening.Congradulations
liberals.
js,
Are you Jed Clampet? Why are you talking like you just walked out of Appalacia?
Anyways, since you have failed to address anything I said I will assume you have no counter-argument.
Hi Neocon
As I said, there is no way I can make you look deeper into the issue than you want to. You want to believe Wright and Obama are racists. I can only present evidence to the contrary.
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Mike Huckabee defends Obama:
After joking that he’s leasing a hot dog stand in Manhattan, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee on MSNBC’s Morning Joe early this morning defended Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., on the Rev. Wright front.
And, in fact, he defended Rev. Wright, too….
see http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/huckabee-defend.html
Huckabee: “And one other thing I think we’ve got to remember: As easy as it is for those of us who are white to look back and say, ‘That’s a terrible statement,’ I grew up in a very segregated South, and I think that you have to cut some slack. And I’m going to be probably the only conservative in America who’s going to say something like this, but I’m just telling you: We’ve got to cut some slack to people who grew up being called names, being told, ‘You have to sit in the balcony when you go to the movie. You have to go to the back door to go into the restaurant. And you can’t sit out there with everyone else. There’s a separate waiting room in the doctor’s office. Here’s where you sit on the bus.’
“And you know what? Sometimes people do have a chip on their shoulder and resentment. And you have to just say, I probably would too. I probably would too. In fact, I may have had a more, more of a chip on my shoulder had it been me.”
I wouldn’t want him for president, but kudos to Mike Huckabee for showing his genuine Christian creds.
It just gets worse…Reverend Wright and Hamas:
Then there’s July 8. In his “Pastor’s Pages” at Page 9, the Rev. Wright helpfully introduces an article on “Progressive Muslims” by one Omid Safi by telling us:
The quote marks are the Rev. Wright’s.
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When someone first becomes curious and wishes to begin learning about Islam, it is imperative that they first understand the degree to which lying is not only permitted, but actually fostered and even, at times, commanded in Islam. When a Christian wishes to teach others about Christianity, it is simply understood that honesty will be an essential aspect of that sharing. In Islam however, most westerners have a hard time relating to the fact that purposeful exaggerations, covering of the truth and occasionally – outright-deliberate lying is a core part of the religion of Islam. There are actually specific doctrines and traditions that foster a culture of dishonesty within Islam. Now, of course, there are some verses and traditions in Islam that discourage lying:
And cover not Truth with falsehood, nor conceal the Truth when ye know (what it is). -Surah 2:42 (Yusuf Ali)
But unfortunately, as we are about to see, for many Muslims, it is the exceptions to the rule that have actually become the rule itself.
http://www.answering-islam.org/Authors/JR/Future/ch16_understanding_dishonesty.htm
AWESOME! Now you clowns can try to say that Obama is part of Hamas too!!!!
Freedom, why do you quote things from right-wing blogs as absolute fact? I can quote from the National Enquirer that Bigfoot actually exists and he is having an demon child with the wolfman.
Hamas, Black Panthers, Weathermen, Rev. Wright…
I feel another “important speech” coming on by Barack (middle name redacted) Obama. For the MSM and the lefties, it should be orgasmic. For others, not so much.
BTW, did you hear that Hillary is calling Obama “unamerican”? That’s gonna leave a mark.
Funny, all these Wright types never seem to emigrate away to the motherland. Guess they know they have it pretty darn good here in bad old Amerikkka as opposed to some heavenly place like Somalia, Haiti or the Congo
What’s Wright with Obama? Nothing!
Can’t spell hypOcrite without Obama!
He says “typical” white person . . . I say typical politician.
He claims to transcend race and then is forced to address the issue in an exercise of damage control.
I’ve seen enough, Obama simply denies, disclaims, disavows. Shameful.