The more we learn, the less we like:
Barack Obama had been a presidential candidate for more than a year before he outright repudiated his long-time pastor for racially charged, anti-U.S. sermons. But when talk show host Don Imus was in hot water 11 months ago for racially insensitive comments, Obama was the first candidate to call for his firing.
When asked about the different responses to his pastor and to Imus, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor questioned the premise of the comparison and defended Obama’s response in each case.
“He spoke out both times, so it’s entirely consistent,” he told FOXNews.com Tuesday.
Obama’s people must think we’re all idiots – or, knowing that for now only the lefties matter (ie, for the nomination) they realise that idiocy will go over well with their core supporters, and they figure the rest of us will forget this stuff by September. “Spoke out both times” doesn’t cut it, Vietor…he called for Imus to be fired for a poorly crafted joke…Wright goes on endless, racist, anti-American rants and Obama de-facto says he’s just a bit out there from time to time…
hyp·o·crite – noun – 1. a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, esp. a person whose actions belie stated beliefs.
2. a person who feigns some desirable or publicly approved attitude, esp. one whose private life, opinions, or statements belie his or her public statements.
Or, failing that, just a picture of Obama will do…
“Go thru all his sermons and lets find out how many are racist and how many are not. But nope… you clowns are jacked up in one or two sermons that you’ve heard.”
Did that work for Don Imus?
JS,
I see how it is. If someone points out the absurdity of your argument you simply take your ball and go home.
But I also see a bit of Mark in your comments. I like the “I am so smart I am not going to argue this with you stupid people anymore” tactic. Very classy.
I know what you do. You listen to Sean Hannity and copy down his arguments. You then come on here and repeat them. The only difference between you and Hannity is that you have to respond to critics. Suddenly the right-wing talk show hosts arguments are not as powerful as they seemed when you first heard them. You are forced to resort to dismissing your critics as looney.
Nice try, but no banana. I am pointing out that any shady associations that come out of the Rezko trial are gonna be fuel to the fire for those who want Obama defeated – whether or not there is “proof” or “guilt.” He has been tight with this crook for a long time. Hmmmm…sounds familiar. Is it possible he avoided all illegal and crooked deals where hundreds of thousands of dollars changed hands? Sure. Will he be in hot water because of his closeness to Rezko? I’m betting he will and don’t put it beyond Hillary and Bill to highlight his “poor judgment” which by the way Obama already admitted vis-a-vis Rezko. One by one, Obama has had attack after attack. The shine is gone. He’s sporting some pretty good bruises from Michelle’s comments and now Wright. I think Hillary is holding off on Rezko until the other problems die down. So understand that I am accusing Obama of nothing re: Rezko, but he has plenty of enemies that will make a big deal out of it to damage him further. As I have stated before, I really wanted Obama to beat Hillary and beat her soundly, but all this stuff is lined up like a freight train and running at full speed toward his campaign. He has shown his lack of experience, his naive nature in the big time, and some pretty questionable judgment. I still hope he manages to pull it out of the fire and pounds Hillary. So understand your “innocent” statement doesn’t even play into this. This is politics and vile things get said. Hillary and Bill are experts at this and will accuse Obama of destroying the party while they actually do. They will accuse him of dishonesty while they still haven’t released their tax returns and he has. Obama is not ready for them. Like I said, next up Rezko.
Rich: Did that work for Don Imus?
Umm… Don Imus said what he got canned for. Obama didn’t say anything. The Rev did.
Slight difference.
Michael, obviously you think awfully highly of the Clintons (js, that was sarcasm).
You go on and on about him and Rezko, but then you throw in “So understand that I am accusing Obama of nothing”. So you what? You bring this up to show that the Clintons will accuse him? Now THAT is bending over backwards.
Again, he hasn’t done anything wrong other than having a friendship with Rezko. People like you will bring up Rezko… of course not accusing Obama of anything, but let’s just lob that name out there and hope it sticks that Obama is as guilty as anything Rezko is accused of.
It is just like Macker above with the “Hussein” comment. You know… not that we’re saying that Obama is a muslim or anything, just saying that he has a muslim name that sounds an awful lot like that bad guy from Iraq, where we are in a war.
So it was a great way of tying him to illegal activities of Rezko without actually accusing him of anything.
How about McCain and those lobbyists in his campaign? Not that I’m saying anything was illegal, just asking how those lobbyists are doing.
How does it feel when I say McSAME?
Anyone care to tell me what your reaction is when I use that name?
When you talk about the leftist inability to grasp ‘reality’ in a thread out hypocrisy I can’t help but laugh.
HAHAHA!
SAR, buddy, you’re opinions have no meaning whatsoever as far as I’m concerned…useless as a pile of dog excrement. You’re a waste of band-width, as I would squash every comment.
So who needs you advice here, eh? You aren’t going to solve anything, so why do you even bother to waste Blogs for Victory’s time?
Just an annoyance.
–Jeremiah–
[shrugs shoulders]
There. Good enough for ya?
Joe…You and the Obamaniacs are the ones claiming that Obama is going to ‘change’ things…That he is above the usual politics.
Yet he is just as close to lobbyists and special interests as any other Chicago politician. He is doing one thing and saying another…just like any other ambitious politician.
You can’t defend him, so you are trying to divert it as ‘everyone else does it’. You bring up something about McCain, but can’t get anyone to follow along.
Your candidate is just another pol.
Jeremiah,
Obviously my opinions would mean nothing to you whatsoever if you were disconnected with reality. So thank you for proving my point.
Seriously though, does what I said really bother you that much? Do my opinions maybe cause you to doubt yourself? Are you afraid if I keep posting here maybe you’ll have to start questioning what people feed you?
Ok, Joe, you’ve convinced me that it is a waste of my time trying to explain anything to you. So in the future I will not bother.
BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER.
That just about sums it all up.
Baraaawwwk is tightly linked to Wright. There is no doubt in my mind that he believes the way Wright does. Barack has said nothing that leads me, a voter, to believe he doesnt agree with the platform that Wright stands on.
I would sing a differnt tune if Wright was just some guy who Barack happened to know and maybe he donated to Barack’s campaign. But that isnt the case. Wright and Barack are tight. Way too tight for comfort IMO.
Anti: Baraaawwwk is tightly linked to Wright. There is no doubt in my mind that he believes the way Wright does. Barack has said nothing that leads me, a voter, to believe he doesnt agree with the platform that Wright stands on.
- So you want him to prove a negative? What did Obama ever say or do that leads you to believe he DOES believe the way Wright does? The only way to prove that you don’t agree with him is to say you don’t agree with him. Didn’t he just do that? Meanwhile, Obama has never said anything that even resembles Wright’s comments.
Michael… good. Now take your ball and go home.
“I would sing a differnt tune if Wright was just some guy who Barack happened to know and maybe he donated to Barack’s campaign. But that isnt the case. Wright and Barack are tight….”
I think quite the opposite. If this was a man Obama had just met and said he disagreed with him but still considered him a friend I would be very skeptical. It is only because he has known the man for so long that gives him credibility here. He’s known the man for 20 years as opposed to everyone else making conclusions on what, 20 second youtube clips show. Would you be willing to disavow a family member because they said something you didn’t agree with?
Obama has allowed Wright to join his political campaigns, and he chose to remain silent about Wright’s racist words.
Obama first denied ever hearing them, then ever so slowly he begins to admit that he heard things that he didn’t agree with…all the time excusing Wright’s words as being typical in black churches and the black community at large.
Let’s say that Wright didn’t say anything as racist as Obama’s grandmother until 2001…a stretch to be sure. Obama would not challenge Wright’s statements, but instead, he remained silent and gave Wright an even more prominence in Obama’s public life.
Do my opinions maybe cause you to doubt yourself? Are you afraid if I keep posting here maybe you’ll have to start questioning what people feed you?
SAR,
No, not the case at all. It does, however, concern me the influence that you place on others whom you are in contact with, spreading your knuckelhead opinions to them and misleading them in the same blindward ways that you take, along with Diane T, Joe, SteaM and the rest of the pinhead liberals supporting a defending the radical Left agenda that is leading America into the gutter of the world.
Is there any use in me saying anything to you? Of course not! The reason I say anything at all is to censor or get you removed from the site so your misleading opinions will have no influence that real ideas can be discussed and thought upon that will benefit society. Ways to defeat the ACLU and other demon-possessed, hate-America groups like the “Seperation of Church and State” organization, the American Atheists orgaization, the NAMBLA, the NOW, on and on …. ways that we can put the pressure on these groups and just keep putting the weight on until they are crushed. It’s really sad and scary what these organizations are doing to America, and angering.
So, No, I don’t question my beliefs for one second, and never will because I know that if I do it would be the most fatal mistake for not only the American people but for my eternal soul–Very scary. And it’s tragic that so many have fallen and questioned their beliefs in submission to your sick ideology of Leftism.
God help America to overcome the evil that is Liberalism!
–Jeremiah–
Jeremiah,
It my right to express my beliefs and opinions, just as it is your right to disagree with them. Can you please tell me how what I have stated is misleading in anyway? My opinions do not fit into your tight worldview so I must a evil libertarian and censored and or banned from this site. Unlike you sir I am open to all sides of an argument as long as religion stays out of it. I hold no stalk in arguing religion. Who are you to tell me what to God to worship or church to go to and vice versa.
I am glad to see that you seem to hold ‘real ideas’ that will ‘benefit society’ like the ‘demon-possessed’ and ‘hate-America’ groups in higher regard than the Economy, Healthcare, Iraq, etc… It tells me a lot about your character.
You can call it tragic to question ones beliefs all you want, just remember, blind faith caused the murder of 5 million jews during the second world war.
You can call it tragic to question ones beliefs all you want, just remember, blind faith caused the murder of 5 million jews during the second world war.
SAR,
Ooooh my, ya see, it’s that kind of clap-trap!!! It’s most definitely tragic what you believe. Where did you get such a skewed sense of “morality.”
The 12 million Jews that Hitler Murdered had nothing to do with “faith” … it was the evil intent of his heart that caused their death … the same way Ms. Sanger’s agenda, which the Left has upheld since her death was the cause of 50,000,000 innocent unborn childrens death. Mercilessly slaughtered.
Anyone who murders doesn’t believe or have faith, they believe in themselves as their ideology of hateful eugenics. If one doesn’t believe in God or Jesus Christ then there’s only one who can have control–Satan.
I wouldn’t want to be in either of their shoes right now.
–Jeremiah–
So the millions of Jews that died in the holocaust had nothing to do with the fact that they were Jewish? Hitler was evil yes, but he killed Jewish people simply because they were Jewish.
Let me get this straight, your comparing the holocaust to abortion now… Do you have any shame sir?
And the third stooge is…….What?
So three stooges. Clear enough.
The reality is that this hypocricy on Obama’s part is so cut and dried that there is no need for a debate about its legitimacy. Thats why you have mellon heads running around acting (oh, it probably wasnt an act, but Ill give you three the benefit of the doubt) all sarcastic and making like immorality is morality and wrong is right and the what not. So confused they are that they cant see the truth right in front of thier noses. So diminished is thier common sense that they dont realize that the arguement they are making has no basis in reality, a debate that was lost before they began.
Twenty years is long enough to know if your preacher is racist. Obama has “NO” excuse. It isnt something to argue about. Left to dwell in ignorance and prejudice, people tend to lose sight of the truth, just like Obama did. Just like SAR, Joe and What? did. Just like any 3 stooges would. You cant blame them for thier ignorance, but certainly, you dont want they raising your kids, or leading the USA into the future…..
It does, however, concern me the influence that you place on others whom you are in contact with, spreading your knuckelhead opinions to them and misleading them in the same blindward ways that you take, along with Diane T, Joe, SteaM and the rest of the pinhead liberals supporting a defending the radical Left agenda that is leading America into the gutter of the world.
64. Jeremiah | March 19th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Since America has accelerate its descent into the gutter of the world during the Bush years, Jeremiah, you will need to add some neocon names to your list. The steady decline of the American Empire during the past 7 years is due not to liberal ideals, Jeremiah, but plainly due to the pathetic policies of the current administration.
Of course, that’s not to say liberals are entirely blameless in all of this as they did stand idly by and let GWB and his associates have their way with the country.
I grew up with a father as a pastor. I can tell you this. What is preached in the pulpit is also preached at home and amongst friends.
Some of you are flippn naive to think that the nasty words spewed from Wright’s mouth were just a rant for that day.
Those are words coming from his heart. They are coming from his soul. They are who he is.
There is NO WAY that Barack had a deep relationship with this man and NEVER hears those filthy things come from his mouth. He hears it and he sits by and probably nods his head in agreement.
Barack knows what kind of person he is and he CHOOSES to associate with him on a very personal basis. Again, Birds of a feather flock together.
If that doesn’t raise red flags for everyone….then Id have to say that those not seeing the red flags are already knee deep in the same belief system.
The Liberal Hypocracy (on all issues) is disgusting and shameful.
Let me get this straight, your comparing the holocaust to abortion now? Do you have any shame sir?
SAR,
As I’ve said before, we should paint huge swastika signs at every Planned Parenthood clinic in America and put them on a poll at least a hundred feet tall so everyone can see this is what America has come to.
If you can’t see the cruelty and shame that Abortion has defamed America, then there’s something wrong with you and you need to seek professional help ASAP!!
–Jeremiah–
Diane Tomlinson, post 20 – Thank you, that was majestic. Reading it here on this blog was like watching fire come out of the seat in an outhouse.
Jeremiah, post 64 – Classic, a textbook example of the delusions of the evangelical right. As opposed to actual New Testament Christianity, I must add. For that we all should reserve respect, agree with it or not. The problem is the former too often drowns out the latter. It takes some discernment to tell them apart.