17 thoughts on “Guess Who Turns Out to be Christian?”
Freedom1March 19, 2008 / 11:45 pm
This is happy news. 🙂 I’m not all that surprised though. His actions spoke volumes.
DennisMarch 20, 2008 / 12:20 am
Deleted – off topic.
congressiveMarch 20, 2008 / 1:05 am
Makes perfect sense that a follower of Jesus would be, as Mr. Gorbachev characterizes himself in his memoir “The August Coup”, a democrat and a socialist, as was Jesus and all his disciples.
Bible says: All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
(Acts 2:44-45)
Socialists say: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need
Mark NoonanMarch 20, 2008 / 1:14 am
congressive,
Certainly – and now, go sell all you have, and give it to the poor, and follow Him…
Off you go – should be your last comment, ’cause you’re going to have to sell your computer, too…if, that is, you want to entirely follow in the footsteps of Our Lord…
Mark NoonanMarch 20, 2008 / 1:15 am
Freedom,
What amazes, outside of the power of God to reach people, is the perception of Reagan who instinctively understood that he was dealing with a man who knew, at least in some way, God…and thus could be relied upon to do the right thing when push came to shove.
Freedom1March 20, 2008 / 1:41 am
Thank God! 🙂
congressiveMarch 20, 2008 / 1:41 am
Irony alert: interesting that you would sing the praises of a socialist…
Sorry, Mark. I don’t “believe” in boogie ghosties in the sky. Religion and faith are the intentional disregard of reason and logic in order to accept the rantings of madmen (or stoners, according to recent “Moses” findings).
There’s no “our” in those footsteps. I walked those steps years ago. Then I found the truth. And the truth set me free.
You wanna know “God’s will”? Study string theory, or fractal math, or biochemistry.
Or even better, Nash’s Equilibrium as applied to populations of interdependent species. There you will find “morality” that does not encourage bashing one’s enemies babies against the rocks, as the Bible does.
Mark NoonanMarch 20, 2008 / 2:06 am
congressive,
Actually, its quite the other way ’round – to not believe God requires a complete rejection of reason and logic. String theory might make you feel good, and there might be some merit to it, but the plain fact of the matter is that, well, you can’t get matter without a Creator.
Also, you reveal yourself again and again to be quite ignorant of Judeo-Christian theology. Have you ever actually sat down at, say, an RCIA class and listened for a bit? You might, if you really listen, learn a bit…of course, its almost inevitible you’ll wind up a Christian if you ever work up the nerve to attend, but life is full of risks, isn’t it?
Freedom1March 20, 2008 / 2:54 am
Congressive,
Re: String theory. Did you ever watch “Quantum Leap”? In that long-running television show, Dr. Sam Beckett is a brilliant scientist with several PhD’s who used string theory as the basis for the development of his quantum leap time travelling device. Dr. Sam Beckett – genius scientist – is a devout Christian. 🙂
Every time you bring up string theory, those of us who watched Quantum Leap are reminded of the genius scientist and Christian character of Dr. Sam Beckett. I loved that show.
Atheists must have tremendous faith in their own “infallability”. They know that if they are wrong about God, they will spend eternity in Hell.
There’s still time to change your mind about God and Christianity, Congressive! Carpe diem!
Nietzsche-Is-PietzscheMarch 20, 2008 / 3:04 am
Conservatives!!!!
They take their foreign policy advice from shows like 24.
The get their faith bolstered from shows like Quantum Leap.
No wonder we are in such a rut as a nation. What were we thinking?
Nietzsche-Is-PietzscheMarch 20, 2008 / 3:06 am
What’s next? We should believe in God from watching Touched by and Angel?
Good grief!!!!
congressiveMarch 20, 2008 / 3:53 am
I WAS a Christian. Profound conversion and all. Gave my heart and life to Jesus. Soaked in the dunk tank of the Lord.
Then I found the truth. It’s not that there is no “god”, it’s that he/she/it isn’t Charlton Heston who speaks American English and votes Republican while saving “blessed” ones while killing babies in collapsed churches, while Catholic bishops aid and abet genocide in Rwanda, while men-of-god rape young boys and girls and somehow god can’t stop THAT, while directing his followers to kill women and children but be sure to save the virgins for the warriors … bla bla bla.
Christianity demands that you believe Anne Frank, the famous Jewish girl who wrote the diaries and died at Auschwitz, never accepted Jesus as her savior (if we can trust those diaries). Therefore, after chemically burning to death in the Nazi death camp, she was cast into eternal fire by an all-loving God.
Meanwhile, Hitler, Mussolini and Franco of Spain–who (despite their crimes) did happen to believe Jesus was God and Lord–will go to heaven. It’s the law.
It’s insane. The one thing Jesus got right (if there was a Jesus, as the Romans had virtually no record of the existence of a Jesus of Nazareth, and the Romans kept unbelievably thorough records of criminal activities and crucifixions) is that the TRUTH will set you free, not the delusional rantings of madmen.
Freedom1, try the REAL scientist – maybe start slow with “The Universe in a Nutshell” by Hawking. Learn about real time travel and quantum leaping. Just a touch of truth to set you on the path to freedom.
I think most would agree that Einstein was a reputable Scientist and he believed in a supreme being. As a matter of fact, his views on determinism, which revolutionized quantum mechanics, was based on pure logic and the quote above was his way of explaining it to non-scientists.
Some Assembly RequiredMarch 20, 2008 / 11:01 am
4. Mark Noonan | March 20th, 2008 at 1:14 am
And there you have it. The true use of religion. Teachings of God are only relevant and to be obeyed when they can achieve personal gains. Your faith is strong, but you’d have congressive give up everything for the Lord God, before you would.
Here is my problem with organised religion and the church. It is not with God. But what MAN has done in his name. Charles Manson was thrown in jail because he convinced followers to kill an actress. He is seen as a monster (and rightfully so). But popes of the past have sanctioned full crusades. Christians were crucified (marytered) on a daily basis in early Rome. No organized religion is innocent of such crimes. What it boils down to is not God, but a cult leader running the show claiming to be working for God. IMO
TractatusMarch 20, 2008 / 11:13 am
to not believe God requires a complete rejection of reason and logic.
I suppose this statement could hold true if you put “faulty” in front of “reason” and “flawed” in front of logic.
RicorunMarch 20, 2008 / 11:28 am
Mark: What amazes, outside of the power of God to reach people, is the perception of Reagan who instinctively understood that he was dealing with a man who knew, at least in some way, God…and thus could be relied upon to do the right thing when push came to shove.
Technically, I understand that Thatcher had to talk Reagan into getting serious with Gorbachev. It wasn’t instinctive on his part. At any rate, what is implied here is clarity of hindsight. That is much easier to achieve than clarity of foresight. In fact, clarity of foresight is an illusion far more often than not. For example, I daresay Gorbachev would have done things quite differently if he knew then what he knows now.
Blogs For Victory 
This is happy news. 🙂 I’m not all that surprised though. His actions spoke volumes.
Deleted – off topic.
Makes perfect sense that a follower of Jesus would be, as Mr. Gorbachev characterizes himself in his memoir “The August Coup”, a democrat and a socialist, as was Jesus and all his disciples.
Bible says: All that believed were together, and had all things in common; And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.
(Acts 2:44-45)
Socialists say: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need
congressive,
Certainly – and now, go sell all you have, and give it to the poor, and follow Him…
Off you go – should be your last comment, ’cause you’re going to have to sell your computer, too…if, that is, you want to entirely follow in the footsteps of Our Lord…
Freedom,
What amazes, outside of the power of God to reach people, is the perception of Reagan who instinctively understood that he was dealing with a man who knew, at least in some way, God…and thus could be relied upon to do the right thing when push came to shove.
Thank God! 🙂
Irony alert: interesting that you would sing the praises of a socialist…
Sorry, Mark. I don’t “believe” in boogie ghosties in the sky. Religion and faith are the intentional disregard of reason and logic in order to accept the rantings of madmen (or stoners, according to recent “Moses” findings).
There’s no “our” in those footsteps. I walked those steps years ago. Then I found the truth. And the truth set me free.
You wanna know “God’s will”? Study string theory, or fractal math, or biochemistry.
Or even better, Nash’s Equilibrium as applied to populations of interdependent species. There you will find “morality” that does not encourage bashing one’s enemies babies against the rocks, as the Bible does.
congressive,
Actually, its quite the other way ’round – to not believe God requires a complete rejection of reason and logic. String theory might make you feel good, and there might be some merit to it, but the plain fact of the matter is that, well, you can’t get matter without a Creator.
Also, you reveal yourself again and again to be quite ignorant of Judeo-Christian theology. Have you ever actually sat down at, say, an RCIA class and listened for a bit? You might, if you really listen, learn a bit…of course, its almost inevitible you’ll wind up a Christian if you ever work up the nerve to attend, but life is full of risks, isn’t it?
Congressive,
Re: String theory. Did you ever watch “Quantum Leap”? In that long-running television show, Dr. Sam Beckett is a brilliant scientist with several PhD’s who used string theory as the basis for the development of his quantum leap time travelling device. Dr. Sam Beckett – genius scientist – is a devout Christian. 🙂
Every time you bring up string theory, those of us who watched Quantum Leap are reminded of the genius scientist and Christian character of Dr. Sam Beckett. I loved that show.
Atheists must have tremendous faith in their own “infallability”. They know that if they are wrong about God, they will spend eternity in Hell.
There’s still time to change your mind about God and Christianity, Congressive! Carpe diem!
Conservatives!!!!
They take their foreign policy advice from shows like 24.
The get their faith bolstered from shows like Quantum Leap.
No wonder we are in such a rut as a nation. What were we thinking?
What’s next? We should believe in God from watching Touched by and Angel?
Good grief!!!!
I WAS a Christian. Profound conversion and all. Gave my heart and life to Jesus. Soaked in the dunk tank of the Lord.
Then I found the truth. It’s not that there is no “god”, it’s that he/she/it isn’t Charlton Heston who speaks American English and votes Republican while saving “blessed” ones while killing babies in collapsed churches, while Catholic bishops aid and abet genocide in Rwanda, while men-of-god rape young boys and girls and somehow god can’t stop THAT, while directing his followers to kill women and children but be sure to save the virgins for the warriors … bla bla bla.
Christianity demands that you believe Anne Frank, the famous Jewish girl who wrote the diaries and died at Auschwitz, never accepted Jesus as her savior (if we can trust those diaries). Therefore, after chemically burning to death in the Nazi death camp, she was cast into eternal fire by an all-loving God.
Meanwhile, Hitler, Mussolini and Franco of Spain–who (despite their crimes) did happen to believe Jesus was God and Lord–will go to heaven. It’s the law.
It’s insane. The one thing Jesus got right (if there was a Jesus, as the Romans had virtually no record of the existence of a Jesus of Nazareth, and the Romans kept unbelievably thorough records of criminal activities and crucifixions) is that the TRUTH will set you free, not the delusional rantings of madmen.
Freedom1, try the REAL scientist – maybe start slow with “The Universe in a Nutshell” by Hawking. Learn about real time travel and quantum leaping. Just a touch of truth to set you on the path to freedom.
Your welcome.
My welcome.
His welcome.
Whaa?
🙂
“God does not play dice.”
— Albert Einstein
I think most would agree that Einstein was a reputable Scientist and he believed in a supreme being. As a matter of fact, his views on determinism, which revolutionized quantum mechanics, was based on pure logic and the quote above was his way of explaining it to non-scientists.
4. Mark Noonan | March 20th, 2008 at 1:14 am
And there you have it. The true use of religion. Teachings of God are only relevant and to be obeyed when they can achieve personal gains. Your faith is strong, but you’d have congressive give up everything for the Lord God, before you would.
Here is my problem with organised religion and the church. It is not with God. But what MAN has done in his name. Charles Manson was thrown in jail because he convinced followers to kill an actress. He is seen as a monster (and rightfully so). But popes of the past have sanctioned full crusades. Christians were crucified (marytered) on a daily basis in early Rome. No organized religion is innocent of such crimes. What it boils down to is not God, but a cult leader running the show claiming to be working for God. IMO
to not believe God requires a complete rejection of reason and logic.
I suppose this statement could hold true if you put “faulty” in front of “reason” and “flawed” in front of logic.
Mark: What amazes, outside of the power of God to reach people, is the perception of Reagan who instinctively understood that he was dealing with a man who knew, at least in some way, God…and thus could be relied upon to do the right thing when push came to shove.
Technically, I understand that Thatcher had to talk Reagan into getting serious with Gorbachev. It wasn’t instinctive on his part. At any rate, what is implied here is clarity of hindsight. That is much easier to achieve than clarity of foresight. In fact, clarity of foresight is an illusion far more often than not. For example, I daresay Gorbachev would have done things quite differently if he knew then what he knows now.