Poll: Only 23% of Americans Back Defeatism on Iraq

From Rasmussen:

A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 59% of Americans would like to see U.S. troops brought home from Iraq within a year. That number is down four points from two weeks ago and two points from four weeks ago. Over the last twenty-three weeks, the number wanting troops home within a year has ranged from a low of 57% to a high of 64%.

Twenty-three percent (23%) now want the troops brought home immediately. That number is down six points from the last survey.

Those who live by the poll, die by the poll (to paraphrase a bit) – and our lefty friends have been sustained by poll after poll showing President Bush to be unpopular. Well, my view of polls is well known – they can be useful, but all of them are a mere snapshot in time. Still, it can’t be doubted that this poll is going to drive our lefties nuts:

The tiny minority who see President Bush as evil and the war as being for oil/Israel/Likud/Halliburton/Insert Conspiracy Theory Here are that 23% in the poll – the rest of America is ready to see us there for at least another year, or even longer (36% home within a year, 35% to stay indefinitely). Could be that by November, HillBama’s defeatism is an albatross ’round their neck.

42 thoughts on “Poll: Only 23% of Americans Back Defeatism on Iraq

  1. bongoman's avatar bongoman March 19, 2008 / 4:55 pm

    It?ll be over for you when the Islamofascists kill you and your loved ones.

    Try and keep your head Macker and not let fear get the better of you.

  2. SteaM's avatar SteaM March 19, 2008 / 5:30 pm

    It’ll be over for you when the Islamofascists kill you and your loved ones.

    Mark,

    Do you honestly support this kind of statement? If it’s on your blog and you don’t delete it or post a comment here saying you disagree with it then it will be obvious that you agree with it.

    Or will you claim it was a poorly worded joke similiar to Ann Coulter calling John Edwards a “faggot” or Imus calling a succesful sports team made up black woman “nappy headed ho’s”… or Limbaugh mocking Michael J. Fox’s Parkinsons disease.

  3. CuriousGeorge's avatar CuriousGeorge March 19, 2008 / 5:56 pm

    Or I might wet my bed again.

    You do that every night, don’t you, barrASSo?

    Cheney also defended the toppling of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein as part of the struggle against terrorism following the 9/11 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

    Joke, what part of “as part of the struggle against terrorism following…” don’t you comprehend? I know you lefties use this as “proof” that the administration linked Saddam with 9/11; is this the closest you can spin this? Are you as brain-dead as the rest of the trolls here?

    Don’t bother answering; you’ll only be lying. I’ll bet Bill Maher is one of your idols, huh?

    Uh, streaM, your post is just as redundant as Joke’s. You swallow the Bill Maher/Elsie O’Donnell lies hook, line, and sinker. Limbaugh wasn’t mocking little Mikey; he was demonstrating Mikey’s spasms, just like others do when describing other’s actions. Little MJ should’ve taken his meds; he admitted he didn’t for effect.

    Mark, 23% seems low when sampling the troll pukes who pollute this once-fine blog. All of these trolls are cut-and-run surrender monkeys…

  4. CuriousGeorge's avatar CuriousGeorge March 19, 2008 / 6:00 pm

    Nice Macker. Let’s kill anyone who speaks out against the war. You are a ******* clown.

    Joke, that’s what you got out of Macker’s comment? You are a moron, aren’t you? A regular train wreck, that’s you…

  5. Canadian Observer's avatar Canadian Observer March 19, 2008 / 6:07 pm

    Limbaugh wasn’t mocking little Mikey; he was demonstrating Mikey’s spasms, just like others do when describing other’s actions.

    28. CuriousGeorge | March 19th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Why in the blue blazes would Limbaugh feel he had to demonstrate Michael’s spasms? Is his brain working at preschool level? We’ve all seen children do this sort of thing; but come on now, a grown adult?

  6. Some Assembly Required's avatar Some Assembly Required March 19, 2008 / 6:35 pm

    28. CuriousGeorge | March 19th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    ‘Mikey’s Spasms’ as you so eloquently put it are symptoms of Parkinson’s. I take it know one you know has been touched by the disease. If they had, you would be absolutely appaulled if someone would even mimic them on the street, let alone on national television. But then that can be expected from Limbaugh after all he just labeled Obama as “the race candidate”.

  7. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe March 19, 2008 / 6:51 pm

    Well, Mark predicted the Rasmussen poll he approvingly cited would “drive our lefties nuts”. When that failed miserably, apparently that left Plan B which is angry personal venom. Venom and self-parodying “rhetoric” like “cut-and-run surrender monkeys”.

  8. CuriousGeorge's avatar CuriousGeorge March 19, 2008 / 6:57 pm

    …appaulled if someone would even mimic them on the street, let alone on national television.

    “Appaulled?” I’m appalled that you’re a moron. Now read carefully, moron: Rush wasn’t on national television; he was on his “Dittocam,” and was not, I repeat, was not making fun of Little Mikey.

    And Earbama’s speech made him the race candidate. A candidate who lies and hates America. A candidate who, instead of condemning(sp?) a racist who hates America, threw his grandmother under the bus.

    Our issue with Earbama’s relationship with Rev. Wright was not about race; it was about Wright’s ultra-leftist conspiracy-theory stance. It was about Wright’s racism, and Earbama’s refusal to denounce this pig.

    Sorry about the slam on Little Mikey, but I’m tired of you redundant arsehats bringing up old lies. Have a nice day, jerk.

  9. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe March 19, 2008 / 7:01 pm

    As I said…

  10. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe March 19, 2008 / 7:24 pm

    Between using Republican National Committee email addresses for the nation’s business and allegedly accidentally erasing millions of email messages the law says were to be preserved, a federal magistrate is now ready to order forensic copies of computer hard drives at the White House to try to capture “missing” records, including those covering the beginning of the Iraq fiasco:

    The White House has three days to explain why it shouldn’t be required to copy its computer hard drives to ensure no further e-mails are lost, a federal judge ordered Tuesday. Already, e-mails between March and October 2003 appear to have been lost, Judge John M. Facciola noted, because they were improperly archived and no backup copies exist. That period includes the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

    E-mails by White House staff are considered part of the nation’s historical record, and federal law requires they be preserved. The White House has admitted that potentially millions of e-mails from the past eight years have been erased, although it has provided conflicting accounts on how many may still exist on backup tapes, though it has since said it believes “all or substantially all” e-mails are available on backup tapes.

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    Source: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4473451&page=1

    Sheer, bungling incompetence or stonewalling, you decide.

  11. Some Assembly Required's avatar Some Assembly Required March 19, 2008 / 7:26 pm

    Limbaugh wasn’t making fun of Micheal J Fox and his disease?

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/24/AR2006102400691.html

    You are a warped individual sir. What facts do you have to prove Obama hates America? When has Obama lied?

    Let me answer that second question for you. When questioned about the Sermon thats floating around youtube Obama said he did not attend that sermon so he did not hear the racist remarks. Then when asked if he had ever heard Wright say anything controversial Obama says Yes. Therefore, he must have lied about hearing Wrights racist remarks right? Which is what you would believe if you only had a primary school education.

    Now you’ve confused me, you say Obama’s speech made him the ‘race’ candidate. Then you come back saying your issue with Obama is about Wright and not ‘race’?

    His speech was about the Wright controversy so which is it?

    Personal attacks are a great way to get your point across while sounding intelligent and credible, keep up the good work.

  12. SteaM's avatar SteaM March 19, 2008 / 9:34 pm

    I guess I shouldn’t have brought up the Michael J. Fox & Rush Limbaugh incident since it didn’t exactly fit with the point I was making…

    Mark,

    You obviously have labeled Obama many negative things based on what his former Pastor said.

    Knowing that you are a devout Christian I feel like that is really disrespectful. I mean, to you, Barack Obama should be considered a fellow brother in Christ. He didn’t say these words that his Pastor spoke yet you act like they came off his own lips. You should be happy that he not only believes in God but is a fellow Christian with a loving family, a seemingly very wholesome family from what we’ve seen, and a loving and intelligent and supportive wife. You should really try to reconsider your view of him if it is based on his preacher’s cherry-picked opinions.

    I really think that people are unfairly attacking a good man because of what someone else said. He’s told you that he disagrees with those specific things that Rev Wright had to say that you are upset about but he still says that he respects this man and that those few statements do not accurately describe Mr. Wright’s true self. And who are we to disagree? We don’t know this former pastor as well as Barack does.s

    You know, of those of us on this blog commenting away about this, and people all over the country talking about it, who do you think really knows the true Reverand Wright better than Barack Obama? Who are we to even assume anything or speculate as to who and what this former Pastor is like or what his views are? Can we really say if he is “anti-American”? I think not. Not based on the little information we have.

    Anyways, this story regarding Rev. Wright’s comments and the fact that he was Obama’s former pastor is a story that ABC (I think) reported on recently. I read the comments and personally was pretty happy that there was a preacher like this and was wishing I had him when I was going to church for the first 18 years of my life. Therefore this was a non-issue for me and I went back to my normal tension felt from real issues like my girlfriend’s brother (a member of the National Guard) being in Iraq right now and how we haven’t heard from him in weeks and he usually get’s back to us within a day, or the economy and how or if I am going to survive the problems we are having. I am thinking about if I can keep my home I bought 3 years ago… which I purchased proudly, it is the American dream after all. I am concerned with what to do with my gas-guzzling vehicle now that gas here is approaching $3.25 in the coming months. I just paid off the car last month after having worked on that paying off that loan, on time every month with payment, for 5 years. Succeeding at being the responsible credit user. Another benefit of living in this great country of ours.

    So, I read about Barack Obama’s former pastor Reverend Wright’s controversial comments that was supposedly hurting Barack and decided that not only did I like and agree with what he said I was ready to move on to seeing what Obama was going to do for me as President regarding my concerns with the war, the economy, and my options regarding using affordable fuel or finding a cleaner/greener form of transportation.

    But you (a Christian) and many of your readers, and Rush and Ann’s listeners, decided it was a disgusting and racist thing that Reverend Wright had said these things and that Barack Obama having this man as a mentor made him guilty by association. Guilty of many disgusting and untrue labels that are present in this thread’s comment section.

    I hope this is a better response than the one I had earlier.

  13. Some Assembly Required's avatar Some Assembly Required March 19, 2008 / 9:51 pm

    Steam,

    Thanks for that post. Sometimes you just get so caught up in proving things the important things tend to slip away. I hope you hear from your girlfriends brother soon and he is well.

    Regards

  14. Tractatus's avatar Tractatus March 20, 2008 / 12:22 am

    I mean, to you, Barack Obama should be considered a fellow brother in Christ.

    You would think so, but no. Noonan–clearly a charter member of the No True Scotsman Fallacy Fan Club–would have you believe that there really is no such thing as a liberal Christian; people who are liberal Christians either aren’t really liberals or aren’t really Christians. Obama is a liberal, therefore he cannot be a Christian.

    Pretty nuts, huh? But that’s Noonan for ya.

  15. Michael's avatar Michael March 20, 2008 / 11:53 am

    I wonder why Obama, who wants you to put all this in “context” and consider more than Wright’s years of hate speech was so quick as to be the first one to call for the firing of Don Imus after Imus made that racist joke on air? What happened to “context” there?

  16. Joe's avatar Joe March 20, 2008 / 12:02 pm

    not sure why my comment was “awaiting moderation”, but here it is again…….

    19 hours later (now 22hrs) and I see Mark hasn?t deleted Mackers comment #21 above.

    Yet the deletion of opposing views is alive and well in all other posts.

    Mark, I am appalled (got that keefer monkey?) that you allow that crap on your blog.

  17. Faceplant's avatar Faceplant March 21, 2008 / 4:51 am

    “The tiny minority who see President Bush as evil and the war as being for oil/Israel/Likud/Halliburton/Insert Conspiracy Theory Here are that 23% in the poll – the rest of America is ready to see us there for at least another year, or even longer (36% home within a year, 35% to stay indefinitely). ”

    From your own post,

    “A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 59% of Americans would like to see U.S. troops brought home from Iraq within a year”

    No, they are the majority in the poll that you just cited. Do you just make these numbers up as you go along?

  18. Diana Powe's avatar Diana Powe March 22, 2008 / 8:52 pm

    The official White House reaction to the overwhelming and stable majority of Americans who reject the Administration’s handling of the Iraq situation? From the much-beloved Vice President, “So?” Seldom has a single word so neatly encapsulated the complete arrogance of power.

    Press Secretary Dana Perino defends the Vice President’s dismissal of public views this way, “The American people have input every four years, and that’s the way our system is set up.” So, paraphrasing Ms. Perino, “The American people can just shut the f’ up, except at the polling place, because any other time their whining doesn’t matter.”

    Oddly, the American public holds a different view:

    In sharp contrast to views recently expressed by Vice President Cheney, a new poll finds that an overwhelming majority of Americans believe government leaders should pay attention to public opinion polls and that the public should generally have more influence over government leaders than it does.

    Eighty-one percent say when making “an important decision” government leaders “should pay attention to public opinion polls because this will help them get a sense of the public’s views.” Only 18 percent said “they should not pay attention to public opinion polls because this will distract them from deciding what they think is right.”

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    Source:http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/home_page/461.php?lb=hmpg1&pnt=461&nid=&id=

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