Jerusalem is in Israel

In spite of what some might want us to believe – from Jewish Journal:

Jerusalem: To be or not to be part of Israel. That’s the question that White House administrations have tiptoed around for decades.

The State Department neither recognizes Jerusalem as Israel’s official capital nor views the eastern part of the city—captured from Jordan in the 1967 Six-Day War and subsequently annexed—as part of Israel. But Congress passed a law in 2002 that effectively recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

Presidents have been caught in the middle, cautiously balancing their pro-Israel rhetoric against longstanding U.S. policy.

That’s exactly where the Obama administration found itself last week after news reports revealed that the White House quietly had removed all references to Jerusalem as being part of Israel from a collection of photos on its website…

It is amazingly cowardly of us to not just recognize historic and current reality – Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel.  To all intents and purposes, it always has been and always will be.  Its been 44 years since the Israelis liberated the eastern section of Jerusalem from Moslem misrule and it is high time we just bit the bullet and did the right thing.

But we can’t do that!  It would offend Islam!  Yeah, and our failure to recognize Jerusalem as part of Israel has won us just so many friend in the Moslem world, right?  Get real – there is nothing we can do to make them hate us any more than they already do, while a course of forthright action will at least instruct them that we are people of courage and not to be trifled with.  Recognize the Israeli liberation of Jerusalem..and throw in the Golan for good measure.  Time to end this silliness and start acting like we’ve got a backbone.

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30 thoughts on “Jerusalem is in Israel

  1. Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 9:40 pm

    “Time to end this silliness and start acting like we’ve got a backbone.” I am so sorry Sir. That is a rigid stance that only a freak radical would take……..Guilty as charged Your Honour. 🙂

    Am Ysrael Chai.

  2. thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 10:08 pm

    silly mark,

    Israel’s capital is Tel Aviv. East Jerusalem will be the capital of the future palestinian state.

    no need to be an ideologue on this, the whole world is against you on this one.

    can’t fault you for trying, it’s a religious thing, i get it.

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 16, 2011 / 10:17 pm

      Thomas,

      I know of no city called “east Jerusalem”. There is Jerusalem. It is the capitol of Israel. This has nothing to do with religion – it has to do with the facts on the ground.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 10:46 pm

        Mark,

        you know what I was referring to. Israel’s occupation of east jerusalem is internationally condemned and illegitimate. There are UN resolutions passed against the building of housing in east jerusalem.

        I never said there was a city called east jerusalem, but the city will have to be divided. 1967 borders is where it will have to be eventually.

      • bardolf August 16, 2011 / 11:59 pm

        Mark

        A capitol is a building, you should say Tel Aviv is the capital of Israel.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 17, 2011 / 12:05 am

        Bardolf would you say that the Israelis or somebody else get to decide where thier capital is?

      • thomasg0102 August 17, 2011 / 12:14 am

        Green,

        The problem is that the Israelis don’t get to make that decision alone because no nation on earth will recognize it. That’s whats you don’t get. Their nation is the size of manhattan and they need our money and protection. Tey need friends around the world and moving the capital will antagonize the world. Now I know you are a zealot and don’t care about anything but Israel with regards to foreign policy….but they are like a mosquito….suck our blood and give us nothing but an itch.

      • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 5:50 am

        tommybags

        who cares who recognizes it, There is No palestein and there are no pali’s period.
        There are jordanian refugees who need to go home.

      • Mark Edward Noonan August 17, 2011 / 9:00 pm

        thomas,

        There is no “east Jerusalem”. There is Jerusalem. It is a city in Israel. It has always been a city in Israel. It is the traditional and current capitol of the State of Israel. For a time, non-Israelis controlled a small portion of Jerusalem and they were ejected during a defensive war by Israel in 1967. Since then, the whole city has been under Israeli rule and is an integral part of Israel.

    • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 10:48 pm

      oh duh! as long as ONE side of the issue says it’s theirs, then that solves the problem for Green. Well no wonder you’re such a political mind.

      how about looking at both sides of the issue??? Does it not matter what the other side wants? or what the world thinks? It only matters what a nation the size of manhattan thinks…..really?

      no can do buddy, east jerusalem will be the future of the palestinian state. Israel would be smart to do it now, because in 25 years, they will be the minority in their own country.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 11:08 pm

        Yawn what ever you say Thomaslighterthanairexpandandableoxegenrecepticle.

      • thomasg0102 August 16, 2011 / 11:37 pm

        Green,

        Yes, yawn to you as well. You’re firmly on the wrong side of history and on the wrong side in the world on this one. So be it, can’t convince a bible thumper that Israel is a dying nation..

        On another note, the deems held on to their seat in wisconsin recall elections….talk about epic fail for the GOP.

  3. Green Mountain Boy August 16, 2011 / 11:57 pm

    Thomas. People like you have been saying that Israel will be gone in 15 years for 61 years now. Israel is still there now. I will check back in 2025.

    Wisconsin.
    Govenor. (R)
    House of Represenatives (R)
    Senate (R)
    Supreme Court (R)
    Yuppers looks like an epic fail to me.

    Just sitting here thumpin my bible and clingin to mah guuns.

    • thomasg0102 August 17, 2011 / 12:06 am

      Yawn. The GOP lost seats and the governor is going to get recalled soon.

      Not to mention, the deems will carry the stae like they did last time. I’d be worried if I were you

      Also, in the grand scheme of things, Israel is Avery young artificially created nation. Teir time is up, and the sooner we realize that, the better. They are like leeches on our skin, nothing but trouble

      • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 8:29 am

        tommyturban
        They are like leeches on our skin, nothing but trouble

        spoken like a true nazi-islamist

      • Luckee August 17, 2011 / 6:58 pm

        Thomas, you posted somewhere else that you hate the Tea Party because of what you call their veiled racism. But you come here and write extremely racist, anti-Jewish, posts calling Jews leeches on our skin and nothing but trouble.

        Is it just veiled racism you object to? Overt racism is ok?

      • thomasg0102 August 17, 2011 / 7:18 pm

        Deleted. Obvious reasons. //Moderator

  4. bardolf August 17, 2011 / 12:05 am

    Seems the socialists have some power in Israel. Why no mention on B4V?

    Over a quarter million people took to the to the streets Saturday to protest spiraling living costs and soaring rents that are making it impossible for working people to make ends meet. The marches were the largest social protest in Israel’s history; accounting for the size of Israel’s population, this is the equivalent of a protest by 10 million people in the United States, or 2 million in Britain.

    At the largest rally in Tel Aviv, over 200,000 young people, retired couples and families, both Ashkenazi and Mizrahi Jews, demonstrated under the slogan “the government has abandoned the people.” Banners read “The People Demand Social Justice”

    • Green Mountain Boy August 17, 2011 / 12:08 am

      Wonder why they have time to stage a protest? Ever thought about that?
      Hmmm..

      • thomasg0102 August 17, 2011 / 12:10 am

        Maybe because they are students and retired folk and unemployed. Ever thought of that?

        Not everything is a conspiracy ya know

      • Green Mountain Boy August 17, 2011 / 12:16 am

        Short answer. No.
        Long Answer. They can afford to. Syirans are murdering each other, the pali authority is damn near broke and phaoroh land is chaos. The Jews don’t have to worry much about external security.
        Let the kiddies have thier holiday.

        Besides this protest is more about affordable housing than anything else.

    • Green Mountain Boy August 17, 2011 / 12:26 am

      I demand free Ice cream!!!! Double chocolate chip chocolate fudge!!!! With oreo sprinkles.

      UMMMMM ice cream…tastse better than ….social justice

      • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 5:53 am

        sasan…er tommyrags

        http://www.masada2000.org/geography.html

        “PALESTINE?”

        The term “Palestine” came from the name that the conquering Roman Empire gave the ancient Land of Israel in an attempt to obliterate and de-legitimize the Jewish presence in the Holy Land. The name “Palestine” was invented in the year 135 C.E. Before it was known as Judea, which was the southern kingdom of ancient Israel. The Roman Procurator in charge of the Judean-Israel territories was so angry at the Jews for revolting that he called for his historians and asked them who were the worst enemies of the Jews in their past history. The scribes said, “the Philistines.” Thus, the Procurator declared that Land of Israel would from then forward be called “Philistia” [further bastardized into “Palaistina”] to dishonor the Jews and obliterate their history. Hence the name “Palestine.”

        One more thing. Very often one hears the revisionists and propagandists finding ancient historical links between the “Philistines” (“Invaders” in Hebrew) and the Arab “Palestinians.” There is no truth to this claim! The Philistines were one of a number of Sea Peoples who reached the eastern Mediterranean region approximately 1250-1100 B.C.E. They were actually an amalgamation of various ethnic groups, primarily of Aegean and south-east European origin [Greece, Crete and Western Turkey] and they died out over 2500 years ago! Those Philistines were not Arab… and neither was Goliath! The Arabs of “Palestine” are just that… Arabs! And these Arabs of “Palestine” have about as much historical roots to the ancient Philistines as Yasser Arafat has to the Eskimos!

        The ancient, indigenous inhabitants of Palestine are long perished from the earth. Canaanites, Phoencians, and then Philistines, all were dominated by the Israelites before 1060 B.C.E. Most of these cultural identities dissolved completely by the neo-Babylonian age, or, the 6th century B.C.E. Arabs weren’t even in Palestine until the mid-7th century C.E., over a thousand years later, after Palestine’s 1,300-year Jewish history. Arabs later living in Palestine never developed themselves or the land, but remained nomadic and quasi-primitive

        Even the word “Palestine” has no meaning in Arabic – every word in Arabic has some meaning deriving from the Koran, but the word “Palestine” does not. If anything, the name “Palestine” was associated with Jews. In the years leading up to the rebirth of Israel in 1948, those who spoke of “Palestinians” were nearly always referring to the region’s Jewish residents. For example, the “Palestine Post” [forerunner of today’s Jerusalem Post] newspaper and the Palestine Symphony Orchestra were all-Jewish. The “Palestine Brigade Regiment” was composed exclusively of Jewish volunteers in the British World War II Army. In fact, Arab leaders rejected the notion of a unique “Palestinian Arab” identity, insisting that Palestine was merely a part of “Greater Syria.”

  5. Cluster August 17, 2011 / 8:04 am

    Seems the socialists have some power in Israel.- barstool

    So barstool, are you saying that the Israeli’s have seen how successful countries like Greece and Spain have been, and want to emulate them?

    Thomas,

    Thank you for arguing your points without the personal attacks, seriously.

    • neocon1 August 17, 2011 / 5:42 pm

      Thank you for arguing your points without the personal attacks, seriously.

      He DIDNT
      they all got deleted by the Shadow…..

    • bardolf August 18, 2011 / 12:04 am

      clueless

      I am saying that social protests in Israel don’t get coverage on B4V because it goes against your cliched narrative.

      • neocon August 18, 2011 / 8:15 pm

        baldork

        protests schmotests, a couple of fools with signs.

        B*N deal.

      • Sparkly August 19, 2011 / 1:25 am

        But the Left loves their signs. What could be more relevant or compelling than a few chairs thrown through windows? Or rocks. Say it with rocks.

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