Getting a little hotter while diplomats scurry – from the New York Times:
Diplomats scrambled to avert a crisis in relations between Egypt and Israel on Saturday, and the Israeli government issued a rare statement of regret for the killing of three Egyptian security officers by an Israeli warplane.
Tensions between the two countries, which on Saturday led Egypt to announce that it would recall its ambassador from Tel Aviv, reached the worst point since the Camp David peace accords three decades ago, spurred by a burst of violence along their shared border in the Sinai Peninsula. A series of attacks there killed eight Israelis on Thursday; the Israeli government then retaliated against Gaza-based militants, and the three Egyptians died in the crossfire…
My question: were the security officers in Gaza? If so, why? If they were, then it is yet another indication that at least elements of the Egyptian government are fomenting war between Egypt and Israel. That is really the crucial issue…not who killed whom, but why certain people did certain actions.
Naturally, the diplomats will miss this – their whole desire will be just to paper over the cracks and essentially pretend that nothing happened. But something has happened…and it is a disturbing development in that Egypt may be in the process of breaking the peace treaty.
The best course of action right now is an assertive stance by Israel – a refusal to allow things to slowly disintegrate. Put the Egyptians on the spot – do they want peace, or do they want war? Either all attacks from Gaza cease, or not. That is the price of real peace between Egypt and Israel at this moment – anything less than that means war, even if conventional battles are put off for months or years.
When you allow a third party to operate out of your territory to attack another party you have violated the laws of war, which i do believe pharoh land is a signatory too. This tantamount to a declartion of war by Egypt on Israel. Also the property a nations embassy is located on is also that nations soveriegn territory. Any violation of that territory is also an act of war.
Egyptian protesters yesterday violated soveriegn Israeli territory when they climbed to the embassy roof and pulled down the Israeli flag.
That is two declarations of war in less than 48 hours.
Of course we would not have any of these problems if the jews would just lay down and let themselves be killed. 😦
what is it with you Mennonites and israel loving? does it run in your blood?
anyway, Israel won’t do anything. They are surrounded by enemies and their time is about up unfortunately for them.
We will and can support them for a while, but as the world, and soon our leader will realize is that Israel is a modern day South Africa. Apartheid is rampant, and for a country of 6 million, they are more trouble than they were ever worth.
thomas,
I guess you’re bidding for the oven contracts…
See folks, this is the understanding liberal. This is the person who understands all points of view as long as he agrees with it. This is theperson who would never ever strap an explosive belt to his body and walk into a resturant in Tel Aviv and blow himself up.
This is a person who has declared himself one of the master class. He lords over us poor plebs and makes his pronouncements. He is too valuble, too intelligent, to ever risk his worthless hide dieing for his cause.
His words could not have been spoken better by adolph hitler himself. Thomas is the perfect example of what is wrong with this world today.
No heart, no soul, no moral compass at all. Marks statement about the ovens hits so true.
I can see Thomas standing in front of his mirror dressed in a nazi uniform and endlessly shouting to himself HIEL HITLER HIEL HITLER.
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Israel is a modern day South Africa. Apartheid is rampant,
You are mistaken, Thomas. But, from what little I’ve observed of you in the few days I’ve been here, that seems to be a rather common occurrence.
oh I see, it’s ok for Green to call people of German descent like myself a Nazi, but I can’t reply.
Hmm…talk about weak.
And yes it does run in our blood. “Curse Israel and you will be cursed. Bless Israel and you will be blessed” I could tell where that quote came from but I will let you find out for yourself.
to bad I don’t believe in that magical guy sitting up there waiting for you and caring about your everyday life.
There is a little saying where I come from. If you take your brush in the morning, and pray to it, and talk to it and pray for it to help you out and bless you…..people would call you insane…but when you remove that brush…..people call you religious.
religion is for the weak. no thanks.
If you think you are an example of strong they must have some very weak people in Iran for you to compare yourself to. Everything you post reeks of mental and emotional weakness. You think hating is the same as being strong and you think anger is manly and strong but you are really just a weak little weasel.
luckee,
you have any evidence of your assertion that I am Iranian when I have never even been to Iran.
Maybe you don’t know, but my parents are German, I was born in Germany, moved here when I was about 4.
Amy is that you?
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Stormfront must be having a recruiting drive.
oooh, another weak personal insult.
tell me green…do you think the nation of Israel is viable with their current course of action against their own arab israeli minorities?
do you think practicing apartheid is ok for jews, but not for whites?
ohh…a stupid and naive anti-semite…why is it that stooges are so apt at making up BS like it were true…we may never know…but there is one thing we are absolutely sure of…and that is the fact that thomastooge has absolutely no idea what he is talking bout’….a mental midget is not the person to debate with people…ignore the trolls
Neocon probably brought them here, then.
Weak personal insult? Naw. The truth. You are anti semitic by statements made here at B4V.
Your thoughts and opinions on any subject mean nothing. They have no bearing at all on anything. You can safely be ignored.
here he goes with the weakness display.
awww…playing the “you don’t mean anything” so I can ignore you charge. It’s pathetic and sad.
you really served in the military? God, i feel sorry for our country if people like you are the ones serving. truly a sad state we are in.
based on your posts on this blog, i’d say you’re ignorant of the world and completely ideological to a point of self destruction, and that of the nation.
I remember fondly your little saying….”pour more fuel on the fire and watch it all burn down”
yeh, that’s a man for you.
Explain what you meant by “more trouble than they are worth”
No I belive exactly what you said. I believe you place no value on the lives of jews and anyone that supports the jews. You have made many anti semitic remarks on B4V. Shall I catalouge them.
You can believe what ever you want about me. It does not matter to me.
People like you are destroying this nation. Taking other peoples money. You are addicted to it. You are right, I did say poor more gas on the fire. That is what is coming to anyway. You will loot the wealth of everybody else until there is nothing left to take then you will march into our homes and on our farms and take again.
Let the fire burn. Let it roar. We all know it is coming. Why wait?
Let the fire burn. Let it roar. We all know it is coming. Why wait
ARMED and READY….to report for duty.
Explain what you meant by “more trouble than they are worth”
No I belive exactly what you said. I believe you place no value on the lives of jews and anyone that supports the jews
what century do you live in you fool? this is 2011, our nation is hurting and slowly trying to get back on its feet and you want to support the jews in Israel instead of worrying about our own well being? admit it, you ONLY support them because of your magic book and your religion….its sick.
People like you are destroying this nation. Taking other peoples money. You are addicted to it. You are right, I did say poor more gas on the fire. That is what is coming to anyway. You will loot the wealth of everybody else until there is nothing left to take then you will march into our homes and on our farms and take again.
TALKING POINTS ALERT! WATCH OUT! all liberals are Eeeeevil, and they all want your money!!!! Green, don’t worry, I make much more money than you do and I am in no danger financially in this economy. you’re climbing up the wrong mountain old timer.
Let the fire burn. Let it roar. We all know it is coming. Why wait?
now we have an end times lunatic who wants to destroy the nation and let it “burn”. Seriously, the fact that people like you still exist, in Illinois nonetheless, makes it scary. I went to where ADM is stationed in Decatur Illinois for business one time and you’re probably like the scores of ignorant religious folk who walk around in that little town. Truly scary, like going to a different world.
Tell me Thomas, just what is about the jews that gets you riled up so much? Why are you so full of hatred for the jews? Any opportunity you get, you attack them and anyone who supports them.
What did they ever do to you?
Remember the president of the country he really identifies with wants to make sure Israel is no longer on the map. He might only be half Iranian but it is easy to see where his prejudices come from.
luckee,
again, for a person who asks so many questions, and sounds so much like a previous poster under a different name…..you sure do make some baseless accusations.
tommyhamas
Truly scary, like going to a different world.
yeah muslem arabs are looked upon with suspicion…..glad to hear you were scared though.
ps
russians = marxist
europe = marxist – full of muzzies
Japan? Since when is Japan anti Israel?
so then if you arent a muzzi as you CLAIM, then you must belong to the SS
FtF
tommy is sasan the iranian raghead troll.
riled up? nothing at all gets me riled up.
What gets most sane people upset is that they are taking our money, and then humiliate us in public.
Why do you think most of the world doesn’t support Israel? Is it because they are all anti-semitic, or maybe it’s something else?
tommyhamas
by The “world” you mean the muslim and marxist portion.
The rest of us get it.
oh ok, so the Russians, Japanese, Europeans are ALL marxist and racist or muslim.
Really clown? try again and do better next time.
You of many names are accusing someone else? Pot calling kettle!! Tell us Thomas what does Grueneberg mean in english?
it’s a variant of Grunberg. berg meaning hill, Grun meaning green.
what’s your point?
Would that not be Gruenehugel? or Grünhugel? Doesn’t “berg” have a more specific meaning?
berg means mountain. period. what’s the difference to you anyway? Are you trying to insinuate that somehow because I am german, I am a racist?
Racist? That is for you to decide. No just getting it from the horses mouth himself. Green Mountain. Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
tommyhamas
well you do HATE the Jews so that would qualify you as being a racist.
tommyhamas
Oh yes by your own admission you HATE white men as well = racist