Christie’s Error

From Politicker NJ:

Issuing a one-year moratorium on “fracking,” Gov. Chris Christie today issued a conditional veto of S-2576, recommending changes to the legislation that balances protecting New Jersey’s environment and drinking water and encouraging cleaner energy alongside the potential impacts of hydraulic fracturing, or fracking.

As currently written, S-2576 would permanently prohibit fracking in New Jersey, a drilling technique used for the exploration or production of natural gas, even as concurrent studies on the practice are underway by the federal government and no known natural gas deposits necessitating use of the fracking process have been proposed for development in New Jersey.

“I share many of the concerns expressed by the legislators that sponsored this bill and the environmental advocates seeking a permanent moratorium on fracking. We must ensure that our environment is protected and our drinking water is safe,” said Christie. “I am placing a one-year moratorium on fracking so that the DEP can further evaluate the potential environmental impacts of this practice in New Jersey as well as evaluate the findings of still outstanding and ongoing federal studies.”

No, Governor, the complaints about “fracking” are mythical in nature…no event has happened which indicates even the slightest risk from the process, so all complaints about it are based upon guesses…and if they are guesses which in any way, shape or form stem from environmentalist groups, they can likely be considered nonsense.  Unless and until someone demonstrates  a risk, no governmental action should be taken.

The environmentalists want to shut down”fracking” because they are deathly afraid that the United States will use it and become more energy independent.  That is not an environmentalist goal – they want us paying an ever higher price for energy so they can shut down industry and force Americans on to public transportation.  To the full-blown environmentalist, the death of American prosperity is a victory for the Earth, and Earth is more important, to them, than the people of the United States.

Christie has been an excellent governor and would still get my enthusiastic support for President…but this is just caving in to environmental insanity.

31 thoughts on “Christie’s Error

  1. camsteel August 26, 2011 / 1:14 am

    What makes you an expert on fracking? I thought you were an accountant.

    • Bodie August 26, 2011 / 1:26 pm

      The fact that he receives and then recites talking points about how opposition to fracking is absolutely part of some bizarre conspiracy theory makes him an “expert,” cam. That’s all it takes. to be a “conservative expert” (talk about a contradiction in terms). Well, that and a complete lack of compunction about lying.

      • Luckee August 27, 2011 / 7:31 pm

        Opposition to fracking is not some conspiracy theory, it is just some stupid reactionary belief in false information. I bet none of the stupid things you say are related to conspiracy theories but they are still stupid and very very hateful.

  2. neocon1 August 26, 2011 / 3:25 am

    He is wrong about fracking
    he is wrong about coal
    he is wrong about islam
    he is wrong about AGW
    leave him where he is.

    camstooge, why do you care?
    I am not an “expert” on community agitating to know the POS in the WH sucks.

  3. js August 26, 2011 / 5:22 am

    it dont matter…NY and MA…right there next door…both of them…are fracking…

    so if it do or if it dont…it dont matter…when you are down wind…and down hill…you get it all….

  4. Cluster August 26, 2011 / 8:59 am

    This sounds like a preemptive strike if you ask me. I thought liberals opposed preemptive strikes.

  5. mitch August 26, 2011 / 10:11 am

    Once again, Mark shows his supreme ignorance and bias. No matter what the topic, by default Mark takes the “conservative” position and defends it absent of any facts. The complaints against fracking are not mythical. They are real. But Mark values energy production over human health and safety. I grew up in the southern tier of NYS and I know for a fact; having witnessed it myself that people can hold a match to their faucets and ignite the gas that comes out.

    http://www.gaslandthemovie.com/whats-fracking/

    • Cluster August 26, 2011 / 10:44 am

      Good call Mitch. Who better to really understand fracking than some left wing international theater company. Excellent source, thanks so much.

      http://www.internationalwow.com/

      • mitch August 26, 2011 / 12:01 pm

        As I said, I have seen for myself flames igniting from faucets. If a conservative ate live babies on TV you’d defend it.

      • Cluster August 26, 2011 / 12:09 pm

        Not only defend it, but encourage it. I think we should take food away from lower income people, and kick dogs as we walk down the street. That’s what conservatism is, you should know that by now.

      • Mark Edward Noonan August 26, 2011 / 5:02 pm

        Mitch,

        You’ve personally seen flames shooting from a faucet? Ok, then explain to us how gas got from the well, in to the water pipe and then to the house…there is a curious thing about a gas, it is lighter than a liquid…

    • neocon1 August 26, 2011 / 4:47 pm

      Bmitch

      I grew up in the southern tier of NYS and I know for a fact; having witnessed it myself that people can hold a match to their faucets and ignite the gas that comes out.

      gotta call your BS LIE out on that one from the area…..

    • Mark Edward Noonan August 26, 2011 / 4:59 pm

      Mitch,

      Oooh! Did you look at the scary picture on the website? That proves it – you can see in the drawing the fracking goes on below the water table and thus it must leak up in to the water…

      I’m quite familiar with the propagandist’s art – I have an exceptionally strong BS detector. You tell me – has anyone been killed by fracking? Injured? Any property damage? You show that to me and then we’ll address that … but if you don’t have an actual, demonstrable danger which imminently threatens public health and safety, then all you’ve got is an environmentalist’s fear-mongering.

      • Bodie August 26, 2011 / 6:10 pm

        “I have an exceptionally strong BS detector. ”

        Then explain why you go for a phenomenal amount of BS, from creationism to “liberal fascism” to, well, your embarrassing love of George W. Bush. If something pings your alleged BS detector, do you take that as an indicator that you should believe that thing?

  6. bagni August 26, 2011 / 11:10 am

    markfrack:
    christie is a smart man
    and you’d vote for him
    enuf said…..

  7. Sunny August 26, 2011 / 12:31 pm

    bagni – I was just thinking the opposite. I was thinking that Christie has turned into a really stupid man of late. First, he appoints a Muslim judge, and now this. What is happening to this man? He was the darling of the conservatives just a couple of months ago, but not he is getting dumber and dumber by the day. No one on the far right here can support this man should he decide to run for president.

    • Green Mountain Boy August 26, 2011 / 12:44 pm

      Go back a few months in the archives. I accurately, in my opinion, predicted Chris Christie was just waiting to go full bore rino. So far, I have been proven right.

      • Sunny August 26, 2011 / 12:45 pm

        You nailed it Jeremiah.

      • Green Mountain Boy August 26, 2011 / 12:48 pm

        You think I am Jeremiah? Sunny please! Although we share many of the same beliefs we are two different people. But if you believe I am him its ok.

        Everybody is mistaken at some point in thier life.

      • neocon1 August 26, 2011 / 4:44 pm

        scummy = fartic ox

        NEXT

      • neocon1 August 26, 2011 / 4:49 pm

        scummy

        a person is born gay;
        something wrong with being born happy?
        Oh you ment being born with the pathology of homosexuality?
        it is called SIN scummy do try to keep up.

  8. Sunny August 26, 2011 / 12:44 pm

    “No, Governor, the complaints about “fracking” are mythical in nature… ”
    Mark

    You know what else is “mythical” to conservaties? Real Science; evolution; global climate change; parts of the constitution they don’t like; separation of church and state; a person is born gay; God loves the poor; God created all humans as equals; God loves other nations just as much as America; the poor aren’t really poor, after all most have a refrigator – just to name a few.

    • Luckee August 27, 2011 / 2:46 pm

      The complaints are real, just like reports of being abducted by UFO’s are real. But the reality behind the complaints, just like the reports, are what matters. It is the incidents of fracking accidents or damage that are mythical, just like the incidents of UFO abduction are mythical.

      To people like Sunny and Mitch if the same fake report is repeated over and over, every repeat is the same as a new report and that is the same as a real incident. All they care about is that there are complaints.

      • Sunnier August 27, 2011 / 2:47 pm

        Luckee you are so wrong, Sunny is proof of alien abduction but in her case they did not abduct her from here they dumped her out here, probably on her head. I wouldn’t want her either.

  9. dbschmidt August 26, 2011 / 1:31 pm

    And Sunny is off on her latest regurgitation of “facts.” “Separation of Church and State” is bad legislation (like Roe v. Wade) from an activist bench based on a private letter–it is not based in the Constitution.

    “God created all humans as equals” is correct dependent on interpretation. Created equal-yes, equal opportunity (at least within the US)-yes, guaranteed equal outcomes-no. BTW, God loves all his/her creations including the rich and the poor alike. I am also pretty sure that is a worldwide love but this nation was founded on “divine provenience” which only affirms the aforementioned statements.

    The poor in this country are better off than most middle class in other nations; nevertheless, forced redistribution by the government (aside from being unconstitutional) is not charity. There is not a section of the Constitution, the Federalist papers or even parts of the Confederation of the States that most Conservatives disagree with.

    Real science? Most people believe in real science but theories are called theories for a reason but I am sure that escapes you.

    • neocon1 August 26, 2011 / 4:50 pm

      but I am sure that escapes you.

      usually does on the short bus.

    • Sunnier August 27, 2011 / 12:46 pm

      “God created all humans as equals” but liberals get to decide how old they have to be to really be equal enough to deserve life. And if some handicap means they are not created equal after all but should be put in a box to die cold and alone and hungry in a room of dirty laundry. Equal is a pretty flexible word when it is used by liberals.

  10. Majordomo Pain August 27, 2011 / 3:47 pm

    That will work . . . keep moving away from the center. Soon enough every GOP member of government that does the right thing will be considered a RINO and you will be left with a palette of unelectable reactionaries.

    • Luckee August 27, 2011 / 7:28 pm

      But you define center as you when most people would consider you very far radically left. It might make you feel good to identify millions based on your own position but it is not realistic. Center is definitely not about killing babies. That is radical and I am proud to be a reactionary against it. I bet you even think leaving living breathing babies to die alone and cold and starving is a center position.

  11. Luckee August 27, 2011 / 7:25 pm

    Natural gas has been leaking out of the earth for centuries,so has crude oil, even tar. Anyone who looks at the formations of the earth’s crust can see cracks and layers all through it and gas leaks up through them all the time. Indians found pools of oil on the ground. Water has had gas mixed in with it for a very long time. I have friends in an area where all the water wells have sulfur and some gas. They all have to have filter systems and they are probably 150 miles from any oil drilling in any direction. Ask any water well driller if he has run into gas sometimes. This is not a surprise, this is not new, but the liberals refuse to admit it. Next thing we know they will blame fracking for the tar pits in Los Angeles.

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