Ah, the typical debate – from the LA Times:
On Gov. Jerry Brown’s desk is a bid to bar Californians from openly carrying firearms, legislation that could open a new front in the state’s decades-old gun control debate.
The measure, aimed at an increasingly popular tactic used by 2nd Amendment activists, would make California the first state since 1987 to outlaw the controversial practice of publicly displaying a weapon…
…Gun control advocates hope that California will now pave the way for the rest of the country to outlaw the practice.
“Openly carrying a gun with [an ammunition] magazine in your back pocket into Starbucks and other establishments creates a culture of fear and intimidation,” said Brian Malte, director for the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. “It is irresponsible and dangerous.”…
I don’t know about you, but seeing someone openly carrying a weapon doesn’t intimidate me…by nature, criminals don’t want anyone to know they’re armed until they commit their crime. Honest men and women legally carrying firearms, in my view, increases public safety: it is highly unlikely that a criminal will commit a crime if some of the people in the area are clearly armed. Criminals are not brave – they are cowards who prey upon the weak. So, don’t be weak – be armed.
The liberal gun-grabbers, though, will never give up…somewhere deep inside them is a desire that all Americans be good, little slaves. Disarming us is vital if liberalism is ultimately to gain full control of the United States. Thwarted in one area, they’ll just try another…and they’ll keep at it and at it and at it until they have disarmed the American people. Or, alternately, we stand so firm in defense of our liberty that it becomes the rock-solid law of the land that any law abiding citizen can carry whatever personal weapon he likes anywhere in the great Republic.
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I’ve got to admit, this is one area where I find myself coming more closely into agreement with you. Would you believe that California has a law prohibiting even the mere possession of a cane sword? I don’t want to jab anybody with it, I just want to be able to put it on my mantel when I get home. I have a lot of fond memories of that sword.
Sergei,
In the schools we see the final result of this…kids expelled for carrying a pen knife, mean while lunatics can enter the schools and gun people down mercilessly because no one is armed…that is where this all heads.
“seeing someone openly carrying a weapon doesn’t intimidate me”
Unless of course, it’s THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY!!!!!!!!
Nice pull of the race card, a-hole. I’d be pissed if it was the KKK doing the same crap.
Bodie, you left out the part where the New Black Panther Party were openly carrying weapons OUTSIDE A VOTING PRECENT where they were INTIMIDATING VOTERS.
Nice little edit there you brain dead stooge.
Is that the answer then, arming polar opposites from rival political factions to patrol polling places to ensure equal access to all? I’d hope not, but it would be better than losing our right to bear arms. The right contained in the second amendment ensures the people have some means to ensure all other rights Americans enjoy.
I would further submit for consideration, that if the elderly conservative looking white folks that went down to vote had been strapped, if this were the cultural norm in America; the “Panthers” would not have been out there slapping bats against their hands.
Amazona, that is all bodie (jeffy) has is pathetic little attempts at gotchas and leaving little piles of mental excrement!
Nothing else.
Yet, he will claim to have “crushed you” with his little comment.
Pathetic.
tired, I know the range of Bodie/jeffy’s commentary, and you are right, it is a constant exposition of ignorance and virulence, which he insists mark him as a brilliant commentator who “crushes” everyone who responds to him.
He always reminds me of the character in Monty Python’s “In Search of The Holy Grail” where the totally incapacitated and incompetent knight, who had both arms and both legs cut off with only 4 blows from his opponent, is still squealing at the victor to “come back and fight, you coward”.
Except Bodie/jeffy is far more pathetic than that……
“seeing someone openly carrying a weapon doesn’t intimidate me”
Unless of course, it’s THE NEW BLACK PANTHER PARTY!!!!!!!! and they are using the weapons to intimidate white voters.”
There: Fixed
Uh, duh, moron, do you really not see a difference between CARRYING a baseball bat, for example, and standing in a doorway slapping it into your hand while staring menacingly at those who want to enter?
Really?
You gonna stick with that?
I know how you Lefties love to do the smart-ass comeback, but gee, Bodie, don’t you think that it is more effective when it’s not so stone-cold stupid? Why don’t you care when one of your tries at posting a zinger changes the post from smart-ass to just plain ass?
Boy, did I hit that nerve dead-on or what? It was almost too easy. Clearly, you are intimidated by someone openly carrying a weapon–if it’s somebody you don’t like. So just knock of the lies, OK? Or is that too much to ask?
What??? Is this supposed to make any sense at all or is it just another of your efforts to provide smart-ass responses and only being half successful. (And no, the half is not the one that says “smart”)
But thanks so much, Bodie, for reminding us yet again of the role emotion plays in what you Libs try to pass off as actual thought. I see that you can only perceive things through the prisms of “like” and “don’t like” instead of being able to apply objective and factual standards of risk assessment.
But fine—let’s dumb it down to your level and pretend that the only reason to feel intimidated by someone brandishing a weapon at you is based on how you FEEL about this person. OK. So when someone takes an implement, such as a baseball bat, which is intended for use in sport, to strike a ball, and then sends the message that he is intending to use it as a weapon, instead, against me if I try to enter a building where he is blocking the entrance, then I suppose one could say that at this point I do not LIKE this person.
And, of course, my sense of being intimidated is based solely on this emotion.
Of course an intelligent person would not even consider emotions and would just evaluate the risk posed by the person and the implement he is now threatening to use as a weapon. Guess that kind of evaluation leaves you out, eh?
Yeah, you just stick to “like” and “don’t like”.
And Bodie, I have spent much of my life surrounded by people carrying what you effete fluttery types might squeal are “weapons”. I worked in the restaurant industry, where every trip into the kitchen put me in the presence of people holding and using knives. My emotional reaction to those people was never relevant. Some I liked, some I didn’t. But none of them intimidated me.
I carry a knife, and sometimes a gun. Both are tools necessary in my occupation. The people around me do the same. My reaction to a knife or a gun would never be based on my emotional feelings toward the person carrying either one. That would be so stupid, it would mark me as a Liberal.
I got a traffic ticket from a cop who was a total jerk, obnoxious and a bully. He was armed. I most definitely did not LIKE him, but I did not get the vapors over the fact that he was carrying a gun.
Funny how you insist on falling back on your default position of calling everyone a “liar”. That, and snarling stupid wanna-be insults, seem to comprise your entire political scope. The logical question is, what kind of twisted pathology sends you to a conservative blog where you are compelled to expose your severely limited range of intellect and mental stability, just for the opportunity to snarl at strangers and call them liars. Kinda weird, doncha think?
Bodie, you’re a spoof commenter, right?
All that blather, and you did nothing to disprove my point. You catch the vapors at the mere thought of a law against the open carrying of guns, but you are easily whipped into high dudgeon by a guy with a baseball bat. Of course, you were so very, very invested in the idea that the guy with a baseball bat represented a massive scandal that would bring down Obama, and you’re all pissy because it didn’t turn out that way. But your hypocrisy shines through nonetheless.
You don’t “catch” the vapors, you “get” the vapors, and no, I do not get all fluttery “..at the mere thought of a law against the open carrying of guns..”. What utter nonsense you spout.
As for “high dudgeon” we can all remember the shrill hysteria from you on the Left at the WORDS “target” and “reload” and “in the sights”, etc. Yep, mere words on a page, no bat or knife or other scary weapon or potential weapon in sight.
You are determined to shift the focus away from the point, which is that we are guaranteed the right to bear arms by our own Constitution, and you guys are the ones who get the vapors over the very idea of people being allowed to make their own decisions about carrying weapons.
As for the guy slapping the ball bat into his hand in the doorway of a voting area, what he “represented” at the time was voter intimidation, with a strong racial component. Later, the refusal to prosecute “represented” a new tone of federally sanctioned racism, in which skin color dictates who will and who will not be prosecuted. You can squeal all you like about my alleged motives and thoughts, but as your squealing comes from your own sick and twisted mind and has nothing at all to do with me, squeal away.
See? Just like I said: You’re pissy that you didn’t get the scandal you were hoping for. That’s a pattern with you–see also how pissy you still are that the media didn’t go for birtherism, for example. Poor you.
“we are guaranteed the right to bear arms by our own Constitution, and you guys are the ones who get the vapors over the very idea of people being allowed to make their own decisions about carrying weapons.”
Says the person who is getting the vapors about black guys making their own decisions about carrying much lesser weapons than firearms. Once again, you can’t help but fall into hypocrisy. It’s a fundamental part of who you are.
Remember, as they say, “when seconds count, the police are only minutes away.”
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Remember, db, the Supreme Court has ruled that we do not have a Constitutional right to police protection.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/george-bush-reacts-publicly-osama-bin-laden-death/story?id=13592860
So we don’t really have police protection, that we are taxes for (favored liberal talking point). If the police can’t and are not obligated to protect us who can? And who are trying to take away the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT for us to protect ourselves when the “state” fails?