More Striking Differences Between the Occupy Anywhere for Anything Crowd and the TEA Party Rallies … Bumped

The Occupy Anywhere Crowd are continuing their mooch errrr… march (yeah that’s it) in Richmond.

Another difference between the OAAC and the TEA Partiers, the TEA Partiers have to PAY for their rallies while the moochers do not.

For example: Which group has shown it is capable of rioting and destruction of public/private property?   The TEA Party has to put up an insurance bond to pay for property damage (not to mention all the other fees) while the anarchists do not.

But why take my word when a source will do.  Here is the link (unlike most leftist drones).

Feel free to add any new story here of the OAAC…. have at it.

Update….

Another day, another string of stories about the latest violence or destruction at the hands of Obama’s children – the Occupy Anywhere for Whatever crowd.

Police Link Molotov Cocktail To Occupiers, Reports More Explosive Devices Being Made Inside Camp…

Protesters Threaten Citizen Journalist, “We’ll Put You In A Ditch And Leave You”…

Occupiers Desecrate American Flag…

Protester Arrested For Smashing Window of Police Car With a Hammer…

News Crew Attacked By Protester, “You Nazi F**king Americans”…

Nancy Pelosi has a statement she wants to make about violent rhetoric:

“I have concerns about some of the language that is being used because I saw this myself in the late 70s in San Francisco, this kind of rhetoric. … It created a climate in which violence took place. … I wish we would all curb our enthusiasm in some of the statements and understand that some of the ears that it is falling on are not a balanced as the person making the statements may assume.”

Oh wait.  I’ve made a mistake here.  That wasn’t Nancy Pelosi talking about the occupiers.  That is what she had to say about TEA PARTIERS …..  Sorry.  My bad.  I went back to my notes .. and here’s what she actually had to say about Obama’s children:

“God bless them .. for their spontaneity. It’s independent … it’s young, it’s spontaneous, and it’s focused. And it’s going to be effective.”

Certainly puts their (the liberals) views in perspective doesn’t it?

154 thoughts on “More Striking Differences Between the Occupy Anywhere for Anything Crowd and the TEA Party Rallies … Bumped

  1. js03 October 28, 2011 / 11:35 am

    find out how much ex-acorn organizations re in richmond…then fine the pants off them for failing to file permits…just like the TEA party would have gotten if they just ignored local statutes

  2. bardolf October 28, 2011 / 11:58 am

    1 “For the kingdom of heaven is like a landowner who went out early in the morning to hire workers for his vineyard. 2 He agreed to pay them a denarius[a] for the day and sent them into his vineyard.
    3 “About nine in the morning he went out and saw others standing in the marketplace doing nothing. 4 He told them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard, and I will pay you whatever is right.’ 5 So they went.

    “He went out again about noon and about three in the afternoon and did the same thing. 6 About five in the afternoon he went out and found still others standing around. He asked them, ‘Why have you been standing here all day long doing nothing?’

    7 “‘Because no one has hired us,’ they answered.

    “He said to them, ‘You also go and work in my vineyard.’

    8 “When evening came, the owner of the vineyard said to his foreman, ‘Call the workers and pay them their wages, beginning with the last ones hired and going on to the first.’

    9 “The workers who were hired about five in the afternoon came and each received a denarius. 10 So when those came who were hired first, they expected to receive more. But each one of them also received a denarius. 11 When they received it, they began to grumble against the landowner. 12 ‘These who were hired last worked only one hour,’ they said, ‘and you have made them equal to us who have borne the burden of the work and the heat of the day.’

    13 “But he answered one of them, ‘I am not being unfair to you, friend. Didn’t you agree to work for a denarius? 14 Take your pay and go. I want to give the one who was hired last the same as I gave you. 15 Don’t I have the right to do what I want with my own money? Or are you envious because I am generous?’

    16 “So the last will be first, and the first will be last.”

    • js03 October 28, 2011 / 2:14 pm

      so bardstooge misses the mark…miles off the core…

      if you would modify the parable to apply to the actual situation…it would be way different…

      many of these stooges are paid…10 bucks an hour…most homeless shelters are full of people willing to live in the park…and carry a sign all day…for 10 bucks an hour…these are addicts…alchoholics…and mentally instable folks for the most part…and the leadership is well paid to get these poor involved…when help gets real hard to find…they bus in poor homeless folks….from other areas….

      the communists and socialists/marxists have been working for over 60 years to attain some resemblance of respectablity….they have stood by til the public has waxed over the memory of the cold war…filling up the government with thier members….year after years…until they can get away with almost anything they want to do…

      that includes lie to the public at large…which is what they are doing….by proxy…

      it doesnt take many words to show whatpart of the Bible applies here…

      its the”Do not bear false witness against your neighbor”

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 3:01 pm

        JS03

        Exactly. You just lied against the majority of the OWS people So you broke a commandment. And of course you would be against Grace and of course you would be sucking up to the British crown in the 1700’s.

        Time will tell if the Tea Party get another lying politician into power has more results than the OWS crowd.

      • js03 October 28, 2011 / 5:53 pm

        SIMPLE MINDED claims dont make things true…ecspecially when you made them up…

        why do you demonstrate such an intollerance for the truth…this week…we saw dozens…of articles exposing the lie that OWS and its affiliates are…

        and you wanna put down a few words…and wipe it all away…

        things dont work that way chump…the world is not reprobate…its you

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 6:40 pm

        js03

        WE didn’t see anything. YOU saw what you wanted to see. You can search through all the blogs on the web to find what YOU want to support YOUR preconceived notions. A simple minded narrative like the OWS is just a bunch of moochers gives YOUR LAZY brain an easy out.

        You don’t even have a way to decide when you’re wrong That makes you a chump. Also, a sinner for violating the commandment against bearing false witness.

      • tiredoflibbs October 28, 2011 / 7:50 pm

        Apparenty, bardolf is pretty isolated in his academia ivory tower: “A simple minded narrative like the OWS is just a bunch of moochers gives YOUR LAZY brain an easy out.”

        You obviously have not seen the OWS list of demands as posted on their forum:

        Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending “Freetrade” by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr.

        Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors.

        Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment.

        Demand four: Free college education.

        Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand.

        Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now.

        Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America’s nuclear power plants.

        Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment.

        Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live.

        Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system.

        Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the “Books.” World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the “Books.” And I don’t mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period.

        Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies.

        Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union.

        These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy.
        ———-

        Now I am sure this is NOT representative of the ENTIRE organization. But from the signs and placards the Occupy Anywhere for Anything Crowd, this is not far from the mark to their members.

        One important question: Who pays for all this? Do they? Of course not, they are mooching drones nothing more.

      • js03 October 28, 2011 / 9:16 pm

        so ignorant bardstooge…”we” as you call it…didnt see anything…the reality is…”YOU” ignored what you didnt WANT to see…

        that doesnt make me wrong…it only proves you are a stooge

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 11:57 pm

        @tired

        someone puts up a blog forum with demands, yawn, doesn’t represent anyone

        GMB gets to post on B4V. Does that mean his candidates are even considered? LOL Nope it’s going to be Romney and he’ll run up the debt even more if he can beat Ochimpy

      • tiredoflibbs October 29, 2011 / 7:05 am

        “someone puts up a blog forum with demands, yawn, doesn’t represent anyone”

        Ok, baldoof, you too apparently have a reading comprehension problem.

        Try again, drone.

      • Amazona October 29, 2011 / 11:40 am

        What could be funnier than someone like dolf wrapping himself in Scripture to try to make a Lefty point?

        I;ve noticed this trend on the Left. Just about a year ago we had forkers doing the same thing, telling us that it is a Biblical injunction to feed the poor but leaving out the part about how it is a personal responsibility, not a command to take other people’s property to do so.

        I have seen efforts to twist Scripture to try to manipulate emotions and lay guilt trips and the threat of divine judgment on those who simply want our nation governed according to its own foundational law.

        Now our effete pseudo-intellectual is playing the same game.

        Doug Schoen is hardly a right-wing talking head, but dolf seems to find Schoen’s report irrelevant, preferring instead to align himself with people who are, upon examination, exactly like him. That is, vaguely dissatisfied but too damned lazy to actually investigate problems and find serious solutions, preferring instead to just whine and bitch and moan and posture and generally illustrate superficiality.

        Just what, exactly, can be accomplished by hanging out, screaming, carrying stupid signs, and “protesting” against generalities such as GREEEEEEED?

        Right. Nothing.

        Just as in every industry in every time period in every country, there are a few predators. Every time there is a hailstorm, unscrupulous roofers rip people off, but I don’t see demonstrations in the streets about the GREEEEEED of the ROOFING INDUSTRY. And so on.

        What these morons refuse to acknowledge is that there was, for decades, a pretty functional set of laws and regulations which kept financial institutions in check. But the determination of the Left to impose social engineering experiments on the country, coupled with the political power to legislate these experiments into law, and then the deadly combination of laziness and political intimidation which led to legislating what were supposed to be fixes for the problems created by the social engineering efforts, not only dismantled many of these safeguards they created new problems.

        When banking was banking, these problems did not exist. When banking became social engineering, and lawmakers had to scramble to compensate banks for the losses they incurred when forced into this social engineering, we lost control.

  3. Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 12:10 pm

    Sorry Bardolf your moral doesn’t work here. You are quoting a biblical concept. The occupiers themselves would tell you that can’t be done. Keep your religion out of government.

    The rules apply to all or they apply to none. Which is it?

    • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 12:28 pm

      GMB

      Biblical rules apply to everyone whether they like them or not.

      So even if some grumpy people who’ve worked hard decide that latecomers are moochers GRACE ABOUNDS.

      The Tea Party elderly are fighting on BEHALF of the future generations. The young men and women in the OWS are confused (public schools) but know they’re being screwed. They are trying to figure out who is responsible and since they have no training, the obvious answer is those who have the most. The Tea Party people should go to the OWS rallies and explain the federal reserve, too big to fail etc. to the young people.

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 12:59 pm

        baldork

        unfortunately godly principals do not reflect in our govt any more.

        a permit is a permit is a permit…ALL are required or NONE are required.

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 1:06 pm

        baldork

        your “knowledge” of scriptures is astoundingly stupid.
        Jesus was talking about the kingdom of heaven and those who will enter it.

        !. TEA = middle age , working TAX paying family, God fearing, Country loving patriots who merely want less govt spending and a balanced budget.

        OWS (your side) dirty, thieving, communist, revolutionaries, nazis, anarchists, dopers, thieves, rapists, who want the downfall of capitalism, and the overthrow of the American nation.

        There WILL be a bloody fight if al- hussein, van jones, al, je$$e, louie et all keep this crap up.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 1:06 pm

        You still didn’t answer the question. Do the rules apply to all or do they apply to none. Only after you answer that will I agree with what you stated. 🙂

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 1:45 pm

        Neoconehead

        You sound like a Gnostic. I believe in the incarnation. The descending into the flesh to do real work as an example of what people should do after GRACE ABOUNDS. Not working 24/7 to buy stuff at the dollar store and running off Friday nights to Applebees just waiting to be raptured.

        Tell the truth, if you were a worker early in the morning you would begrudge the Grace shown to the latecomers.

        Do you think the original Tea Party people had PERMITS? Does Freedom of Assembly mean anything if the government has to give you permission?

        Do you have family members in their twenties who are unemployed? If so do you call them dirty, thieving, communist, revolutionaries, nazis, anarchists, dopers, thieves, rapists?

        @GMB The rules apply to all.

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 1:57 pm

        baldork

        Do you have family members in their twenties YES

        who are unemployed? No

        If so do you call them dirty, thieving, communist, revolutionaries, nazis, anarchists, dopers, thieves, rapists?

        Being unemployed its self does not qualify for the above description.

        being what IS described above does.
        OWS participants are largely what IS described above.

        Proof has been posted here HUNDREDS of times.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 1:58 pm

        I was thinking more along the lines that the rules applied to none. This country was founded by a bunch of treasous criminals, according to laws in effect at the time.

        The blood of Patriots made this country. Men and women who were willing to stand up and confront thier LAWFUL ruler.

        What makes our current LAWFUL rulers so sarcosanct?

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 2:43 pm

        baldork

        Not working 24/7 to buy stuff at the dollar store and running off Friday nights to Applebees just waiting to be raptured.

        medical weed? or illegal?
        either way, you imbibe WAY to much.

      • js03 October 28, 2011 / 3:04 pm

        oh flush it bardstooge…back during the original tea party…folks did not complain abut working 12 hours a day and not making overtime…they worked because they wanted to feed thier families…no foodstamps…no welfare….no libtard stooges pushing socialism and communist teachings…

        no they didnt need a permit…it was a true act of rebellion…unlike the lies the occupy movement is pushing…

        but you cower from the truth…its in violation of the local statutes…statutes that need to be enforced equally for everyone…not some feely good wanna be friendly to the commie pinko freaks…america does not work that way stooge

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 3:07 pm

        @Neoconehead

        I’ve never used marijuana. I don’t break laws even when I disagree with them.

        @GMB

        The rules apply to all. Everyone is similar in thinking the rules don’t apply to them.

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 4:27 pm

        js03

        What are you talking about 12 hour days at work? If that was true regularly then nobody would have the strength to rebel.

        “its in violation of the local statutes…statutes that need to be enforced equally for everyone”

        So you are for regulations on people but against them for corporations. people usually call that fascism

      • js03 October 28, 2011 / 5:55 pm

        there you go again bardstooge…making it up as you go along…

        pull your head out of your arse…as it is…you are not even worth replying to at this point…your rebuttals are full of…well…butt…got that….

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 6:42 pm

        js69

        Nobody asked you to comment and I would appreciate if you stopped.

      • js03 October 28, 2011 / 9:18 pm

        oh…it must hurt your brain…

        what little of it thats left…

        btw…maybe if you dont like me posting…you should head over to the brimstone eh…you can post all the trash you want there…

        you dont even have to change…you would be popular…bye stooge

      • Amazona October 29, 2011 / 11:57 am

        You know, dolf, for someone in his mid-40’s you are sure quick to sneer at what you so snidely love to call the “elderly”. I have a feeling that bar is infinitely movable, always staying just a few years ahead of your own age, just as “rich” is, to a Lefty, always just a little more than HE has.

        But kudos for realizing that the OWS crowd is clueless. You just skip over a major point, which is why they are so ignorant. They don’t know anything because their teachers have been more invested in indoctrination than education. They are angry, and baffled, but have not even been taught the basic tools for researching the problems they find so upsetting. Instead, they have been taught that they DESERVE, somehow, more than they are GETTING—-the concepts of being worth more money, of having more to offer to support a higher wage or salary, of EARNING instead of GETTING, seem to elude them.

        It has seemed to me that these malcontents ought to be picketing Soros and other rich Lefties, demanding to know why they have chosen to ;put their millions and billions into the pursuit of political power and forcing the government to do things, instead of setting up charitable foundations to loan money to the poor to buy houses, etc. Funny, isn’t it, how some faces of GREEEEEED are so much more acceptable?

      • Amazona October 29, 2011 / 12:48 pm

        dolf, you really need to get a grip. Your death spiral of ever-increasing attacks based on age and religion is not exactly alarming, since I don’t care what happens to you, but extremely annoying.

        Just what is it about your stupidity that you think is so witty?

        And what do you mean about “the original TEA Party” and its failure to get permits? Do you mean the Sam Adams Tea Party? Permits for dumping tea into the harbor? Gee, do tell us where one would have applied for one of those.

        Or do you mean the contemporary TEA Party? Are you saying that a peaceful gathering which cleans up after itself after a short period of assembly is the same as illegal camping, defecating and urinating on public property, etc?

        You seldom make much sense,but your rambling goofiness on this subject is even more disconnected from reality than usual.

      • fed up October 29, 2011 / 6:46 pm

        bardolf you are pretty stupid arn’t you, people still work 12 hrs a day it was the norm for most of history. no one but you would call your lie fascisim.

    • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 1:13 pm

      As far “who they are being screwed by” if that is how you want to put it.
      They are mostly being screwed by themselves. Taking on debt they can not handle, degrees that are useless, and lifestyles that depend on OPM.

      Now they want people that have worked and paid taxes to bail them out. So they dont have to themselves.

      Pretty much the picture right? They view themselves as “too big to fail”?

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 1:51 pm

        GMB

        Why didn’t the previous generation have the problem of “Taking on debt they can not handle, degrees that are useless, and lifestyles that depend on OPM.” ?

        Of course they have a lot of fault for believing a degree in astrology is a good career. But the previous generation would have thought so to if they had been raised the same way.

        Now who is to blame for NAFTA and other free trade agreements? Who is responsible for making it legal to import legions of foreign workers both at the low end and high end of the spectrum? That would be the TP generation and not the OWS generation.

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 2:00 pm

        baldork

        ummmm the KKKlinoons for nafta
        johnson for the great society and viet nam war
        jimmah for poison loans foisted upon the banks and KKKlintoons
        bwany fwank and chris dodd

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 2:05 pm

        Can they not deal with what they have? Can they not do work other than what they learned in school? Can they they not go to where the jobs are?

        Why must there always be an excuse for failure? Who are these people? The repub national committee?

        They want, they want, they want. Yet they provide nothing for themselves. They are responsible for thier own situation. Why must I or anyone else who pay taxes have to support them and thier ways?

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 3:34 pm

        GMB

        I don’t believe in giving any handouts to the OWS crowd. I’m against the Obama sham of student loan giveaways etc. You should be against more government handouts to anyone. So we agree. I’m still waiting for an end to ethanol subsidies etc. just like Iowahawk. Also, too big to fail banks are still allowed.

        I just think it’s an invented narrative that all the OWS is about is a bunch of moochers just waiting for handouts. I could be wrong, but every time Tired or js69 or matt post these stories it feels like more of their ax to grind than anything about the OWS. I apply the same rules for the Tea Party when I’ve visit Huffpost or talk to colleagues.

        I know 20 somethings who are unemployed but don’t want to move away from their families to the Dakotas where there are jobs. They know they are being picky. They also know after 16 years of school they have no skills which would make them autonomous. They own no land and wouldn’t know how to farm it if they did.

        Twenty years ago, students in the business college could at least make change at their McDonald’s job. IMO, that’s pretty much enough math for the business world. Today, the student’s aren’t even expected to be able to make change, since even that simple skill has been removed. Today at McDonald’s the cash register makes change for the customer. The person behind the machine is a replaceable tool. I’m not blaming McDonald’s. That’s the modern environment for the job market. OTOH a consequence of the deskilling of jobs, the dumbing down of the schools, etc. has left a generation struggling to understand its place.

        Again, I’m against handouts.

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 3:37 pm

        baldork

        Again, I’m against handouts.

        are you Bi-polar?

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 3:48 pm

        baldork

        today in the trades we are still teaching
        Boyles law, Kirchhoff’s law, thermodynamics, entropy, enthalpy, Ohms laws, Trig, geometry, plane geometry, Triangular Formulas, blueprint reading, electronics, computers, rigging, safety (OSHA) just to name a few,

        Some of the smartest men I have known have worked in the field with their hands and backs.
        We LAUGH at the so called college “educated” braying donkeys, and newbee “engineers”.
        as we say they F it up WE fix it and make it work.

      • js03 October 28, 2011 / 6:00 pm

        that ole relavitism reaches out alot eh….you talk about a subject…stooge compares it to someone else somewhere else sometime else and insists we are prejudiced and biased because we didnt acknowledge some imagined equality between the two….

        but the mentalmidget never touches the basic topic…its old…it does not work…it is the conceptualization of an immature reprobate mind whose playbook is nothing more than classic alinksy style marxist practice…

        stop feeding the troll…just expose it and move on…

        (really folks…since pain got the ole brimstone going agian…all these pseudo sluts have been finding new names and flowing through the revolving door here, dont reward them)

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 6:37 pm

        The tax payers didn’t put these kids in the position where they are uninterested in learning basic math skills. The tax payers didn’t give these kids thier they deserve everything for free attitude,

        Quit making excuses for these kids and thier lack of any kind of ethics. They are not members of the repub national committees.

        They don’t want to work, they don’t want to do what is needed to survive then they don’t eat. Plain and simple.

        The tax payers are not responsible for these kids poor choices in life.

        Period.

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 6:46 pm

        GMB

        Why are YOU personally upset at the OWS? They haven’t taken a dime of taxpayer money.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 6:56 pm

        “They haven’t taken a dime of taxpayer money.”

        Wrong again Bardolf. Everytime the police or fire department have to respond to one of these idiots they are taking taxpayer money.

        As far as I am concerned, they can occupy all the private property they want. However in many places they are occupying public property then breaking laws to stay there.

        Once these people are finally gone, how much taxpayer money is it going to take to fix the messes they left behind?

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 7:15 pm

        GMB

        Wrong. First, the police in NY don’t get paid with YOUR tax money. Second the protesters in Oakland would appreciate a lot less police time. Especially the Iraq Vet who is undergoing brain surgery after being hit in the with a projectile from the police. The police and firemen have their jobs either way.

        Why do you get to decide who uses public land? Would it be okay if the DC politicians never let the Tea Party have a permit to gather on federal land?

        I’d put the total cost of cleanup of the OWS at 1% of the smart missiles dropped on Libya. Maybe the occupy DC will be paid for with taxpayer $, but still it will be like 1% of the cost of you subsidizing the crappy schools there.

        Thus far, your biggest cost has been reading all the stupid anti-OWS posts on B4V and whatever media outlets you pay attention to.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 7:32 pm

        Again, your quote Bardolf.
        “They haven’t taken a dime of taxpayer money.”

        Now you are changing the rules? It has to be my tax money?

        Ok so every war was wrong and a waste of money. This gives the ows crowd the right to waste more?

        And the Iraq war vet was more than likely hit with something thrown by one of his fellow occupiers. Tear gas cannisters dont have the velocity to crack a skull and rubbers dont have the mass.

        However beer bottles and bricks do. Favorite weapons of these folks.

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 8:10 pm

        GMB

        Why are YOU personally upset at the OWS?

        That was part of the rules.

        “And the Iraq war vet was more than likely hit with something thrown by one of his fellow occupiers. Tear gas cannisters dont have the velocity to crack a skull and rubbers dont have the mass.”

        That comment is beneath you.

        Olsen has been at Oakland’s Highland General Hospital since Tuesday night when he was struck in the head with a police projectile. Olsen suffered a fractured skull and brain swelling, but his condition has since improved. On Friday, Olsen was conscious, aware and able to write, but was still unable to speak. His parents, who flew to Oakland from Wisconsin, were by his side.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 8:23 pm

        Bardolf, no that comment was not beneath me. Having been a Military Policeman and serving almost two years in downtown Bagdahd I am very familiar with the effects of tear gas cannisters and rubber bullets.

        These were the weapons we were at first supposed to use to maintain order where we were at. It didnt work.

        Tear gas cannisters do not have the velocity to crack a skull. Rubber bullets to not have the mass to cause that kind of damage.

        Go ask the Oakland PD what they think. Until evidence that the OPD is lieing comes forth, I am going to take thier word over athe occupiers word.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 8:31 pm

        Bardolf, if had done just a little searching, you may have come accross this little snippet.

        “The hospital has confirmed Olsen was hurt during the protest, but could not say how he was wounded. Acting Oakland Police Chief Howard Jordan had told a news conference his department was investigating the incident.”

        The police are quilty when charged but occupyers are innocent until proven guilty.

        WTF Bardolf?

      • js03 October 28, 2011 / 9:22 pm

        clue in…the hedgemony of the socialists through the OWS movement should piss off every true american…they represent failure…they represent communism and marxist theology….neither of which are compatible with freedom or liberty….they defend islam…uphold welfare and abortion….promote promiscuous behavior in public…

        why shouldnt anyone be pissed off at those libtard addicts….

        ITS A VERY LOGICAL AND REASONABLE CAUSE

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 10:25 pm

        GMB

        You wouldn’t defend the police in the Rodney King beating I hope. Rodney King was a delinquent with a past and later future of crime after crime. Doesn’t mean he should have been beat.

        The video evidence was pretty clear then and its pretty clear in the Oakland case.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 11:46 pm

        That fb was thrown after the man went down. Nice try.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 11:52 pm

        Play that video frame by frame and see if you can pinpoint when that man gets hit. I see a flash bang hitting near him after he is already down.

        If this is your convincing evidence? You wont win your case in court.

    • bardolf October 29, 2011 / 12:05 am

      js69

      Do you post on B4V to be popular? Was high school that traumatic for you? LOL go to brimstone, like I give a rats a$$ about posting comments to a left blog.

  4. RetiredSpook October 28, 2011 / 12:34 pm

    I’m still waiting for Watson to explain where the media has gotten it wrong about OWS.

    • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 1:45 pm

      Or THIS

      Local Fox Reporter: Occupy Protestor Threatened to Stab Me in the Throat

      “He ripped the mic out of my hand.”

      • neocon1 October 28, 2011 / 4:08 pm

        it gets better and better

        Chicago ‘Occupier’ Outside Rahm Emanuel’s Office: The Revolution Requires Collapsing American Gov.

  5. bardolf October 28, 2011 / 7:21 pm

    Oct. 28 (Bloomberg) — The season’s first “nor’easter” will spread snow and heavy rain across New York and the U.S. Northeast tomorrow, the National Weather Service said.

    Higher temperatures in New York City may mean a half-inch to an inch of snow (1 to 3 centimeters) sticking to grass while leaving pavement clear, said Tim Morrin, a weather service meteorologist in Upton, New York. Fifty miles north and west of the city, 6 inches or more may fall, with a foot of snow spreading into southern New England.

    Will this kill the OWS movement?

  6. bardolf October 28, 2011 / 7:46 pm

    Little known fact about the actual Boston Tea Party

    http://www.boston-tea-party.org/unknown-facts.html

    Most participants left Boston shortly after the protest
    Most of the participants had to leave Boston to avoid being arrested. Not that the Mohawk disguise was not good, but the Suns of Liberty organization that most conspirators belonged to had a British spy as one of its top leaders.

    • js03 October 28, 2011 / 9:23 pm

      its reasonable to assume most of them took thier guns with them….and they probably used them in the militia…dont be ignorant…justice was served that day…they went on to fight for what they believe in

      • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 10:31 pm

        dorkwad

        I’m saying that the people on the correct side of history sometimes are the ones that get arrested. It’s the anti-communists who get arrested in China.

        The fact that the Tea Party has 0 arrests might mean the government doesn’t see them as a threat. Just a group that needs to be brought into the fold. And from the looks of this GOP house the government is correct.

      • Amazona October 29, 2011 / 12:07 pm

        The fact that the Tea Party has 0 arrests might mean the government doesn’t see them as a threat.

        Or, more likely, that they realize they pose a great threat but have chosen to start with the Alinksy tactics of isolation, ridicule and intimidation. It is also harder to make arrests when people aren’t doing anything wrong. The TEA Party protests have been lawful and peaceful, with the only violence coming from outside agitators, just a the only examples of racism have been from outside infiltrators.

    • bardolf October 28, 2011 / 10:42 pm

      wow, what a jerk.

  7. watsonredux October 28, 2011 / 11:23 pm

    Green wrote “Just a little info on the marine “hero” in Oakland. Sorry Neo.

    http://markamerica.com/2011/10/28/injured-former-marine-honorable/

    Yeah. And for that he deserved to be shot in the head with a police projectile from nearly point blank range, suffering brain damage. Get real.

    • Green Mountain Boy October 28, 2011 / 11:47 pm

      It has not been proven. I am waiting for proof that a police officer did it. Unlike you who has already tried and convictwed the police.

      • bardolf October 29, 2011 / 12:28 am

        I’m waiting for PROOF that the marine did anything disreputable. You and Mark America have already tried him. Mark A has already said his discharge was dubious.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 29, 2011 / 12:35 am

        It goes to motive Bardolf. I have not convicted the man of anything. There could be many a valid reason for a other than honorable discharge. Something that we will never be priveleged too.

        What I am saying is that I do not no what happened and that the evidence being presented is inconclusive.

        I am not going to convict the police like you have until I see more evidence.

        And just because you served in Iraq doesnt mean you are a combat veteran. Plenty of remf position in Iraq. Plenty of folks never made it out of thier protected compounds unless they were coming into theater and leaving theater.

      • watsonredux October 29, 2011 / 12:48 am

        You know, Green, if you’re so on the up and up, and so concerned with not impugning anyone’s integrity before the facts are known, why are you going to so much effort to discredit Scott Olsen? You’ve reach a new low tonight.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 29, 2011 / 12:54 am

        watson, I pay the same amount of attention to your opinions as i did Thomas.

        Have a nice life.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 29, 2011 / 1:47 am

        Two bit partisan hack? LOL Ill add it to the list.

        Bye.

      • Amazona October 29, 2011 / 12:11 pm

        Oh, give it a rest, wattles. We already know you have nothing to offer here but insults, a creepy and unwanted peek into a sick and vicious pathology that you seem intent on displaying here.

        We got it. You hate. Nice resume: Hater. But it’s what you are, and what you choose to exhibit to us.

        Not our problem.

      • Green Mountain Boy October 30, 2011 / 3:18 am

        Amazona said everything that needs to be said. Nothing I could add to it.

        Thank you for your contribution to the I hate GMB fest. 🙂

    • neocon1 October 29, 2011 / 1:46 pm

      watsondusche

      BS the police were behind barricades and the OWS were rioting.
      cant take the heat stay out of the kitchen.
      commie down = a good thing.

    • bardolf October 29, 2011 / 12:12 am

      From the comments section:

      “Was she participating? An active member of the group? Or was she there trolling for meat to use in her business. Her being there may have nothing to do with the fact that occupy people were there, no more so than if it had been a Peter Paul and Mary concert! This criminal abuser was probably using the event to lure young people in so she could take advantage of them. Do not attach her to the movement with a negative connotation unless some good proof exists.”

      • Green Mountain Boy October 29, 2011 / 12:44 am

        From the lead line.

        “A city woman is accused of pimping a 16-year-old girl she met in Victory Park during the Occupy NH demonstrations.”

        Ok. Ill grant you this one until further evidence comes in.

        Funny how all these disassociated crimes are happing at the occupied sites, isn’t it?

  8. Green Mountain Boy October 29, 2011 / 12:12 am

    Provide some actual evidence of this man getting hit with something fired by the police. So far you havent been able to do it. The video Bardolf posted does not show this man getting hit.

    Bardolf and watson have already convicted the police. They did so on the flimsiest of evidence. This man could have smashed his own face with a hammer for all we know just to provide the ows crowd with thier much needed martyr.

    Just like I tell these establshment repubs around here and I’ll quote myself, “Anyone but bams is just not good enough” Your “evidence” just is good enough. Try again.

    • Green Mountain Boy October 29, 2011 / 12:13 am

      Just is NOT good enough.

    • bardolf October 29, 2011 / 12:16 am

      The video doesn’t capture the man being hit in the head. It shows the police willing to throw flash grenades directly at a crowd of people trying help a wounded person.

      I’ll even accept a Oakland police inquiry into the matter. How about that. If the Oakland PD says that the injury to Scott Olesen was not committed by a police officer I will believe them.

  9. David October 29, 2011 / 1:38 am

    If a non-zero number of arrests delegitimizes a protest, then I guess you’re all for reinstating Jim Crow or handing India back over to Britain for that matter.

    • neocon1 October 29, 2011 / 1:48 pm

      walleys

      I love the repeated THEY are REALLY *”FRIGHTENED”*……LOL

      NO, we are ARMED and RESOLVED.

  10. green October 29, 2011 / 4:25 am

    http://wizbangblog.com/2011/10/28/iraqi-veteran-injured-at-occupy-oakland-hated-the-marine-corps/

    “It has been widely reported that Olsen is a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War. But apparently his opposition to the U.S. military and the Marine Corps in which he served runs a little deeper.
    The site is no longer live, but Olsen was the founder ofIHateTheMarineCorps.com, a private user forum apparently dedicated to bashing the Marine Corps.’

  11. Cluster October 29, 2011 / 11:39 am

    These union belonging, hard working policeman of Oakland certainly have conservative support. Why do liberals hate hard working union members?

  12. watsonredux October 29, 2011 / 11:41 am

    Green Mountain Boy wrote, “Bardolf and watson have already convicted the police. They did so on the flimsiest of evidence. This man could have smashed his own face with a hammer for all we know just to provide the ows crowd with thier much needed martyr.”

    No, Green. The point is you are taking every opportunity to cast doubt on what happen, going so far as to suggest that the protestors themselves are to blame for injuring Scott Olsen. And then your backup plan is to disparage Olsen’s character, just in case in turns out that the police really did fracture is skull.

    You are the one who wrote with no evidence, “And the Iraq war vet was more than likely hit with something thrown by one of his fellow occupiers. Tear gas cannisters dont have the velocity to crack a skull and rubbers dont have the mass. However beer bottles and bricks do. Favorite weapons of these folks.”

    And then you suggest that he got it soft in his two tours of Iraq: “And just because you served in Iraq doesnt mean you are a combat veteran. Plenty of remf position in Iraq. Plenty of folks never made it out of thier protected compounds unless they were coming into theater and leaving theater.”

    You’re just a sad loser. Meanwhile, here’s what the local newspaper is reporting:

    Olsen’s skull was fractured when he was hit by a projectile that apparently came from police lines. Olsen, a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, was standing at the front of the crowd at 14th Street and Broadway when he fell to the ground.

    As other protesters came to Olsen’s aid, an officer tossed another canister at the group, video of the incident shows.

    One of the protesters seen in the video, Claire Chadwick, 20, said she had been pleading with the officers to help Olsen when the device exploded at her feet.

    “They wouldn’t help him,” Chadwick said. “I’m still in shock by their response.”

    Fellow protesters rushed Olsen to Highland, where he was unconscious for 12 hours. His brain was bruised, doctors said, and swelling continues to be a problem.

    Emily Yates, 29, a fellow Iraq Veterans Against the War member, said it was ironic that her friend Olsen – whom she described as a kind and gentle person – would suffer the most serious injury of anyone involved in Tuesday’s protests.

    “I wasn’t vocal enough in this movement until this happened to Scott,” Yates said while attending a rally at Frank Ogawa Plaza on Friday. “This was enough to put me in the game.”

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/28/BA791LNMQ8.DTL#ixzz1cBZVkL2o

  13. watsonredux October 29, 2011 / 11:41 am

    Let’s just post this at the end of the thread instead of the middle…

    Green Mountain Boy wrote, “Bardolf and watson have already convicted the police. They did so on the flimsiest of evidence. This man could have smashed his own face with a hammer for all we know just to provide the ows crowd with thier much needed martyr.”

    No, Green. The point is you are taking every opportunity to cast doubt on what happen, going so far as to suggest that the protestors themselves are to blame for injuring Scott Olsen. And then your backup plan is to disparage Olsen’s character, just in case in turns out that the police really did fracture is skull.

    You are the one who wrote with no evidence, “And the Iraq war vet was more than likely hit with something thrown by one of his fellow occupiers. Tear gas cannisters dont have the velocity to crack a skull and rubbers dont have the mass. However beer bottles and bricks do. Favorite weapons of these folks.”

    And then you suggest that he got it soft in his two tours of Iraq: “And just because you served in Iraq doesnt mean you are a combat veteran. Plenty of remf position in Iraq. Plenty of folks never made it out of thier protected compounds unless they were coming into theater and leaving theater.”

    You’re just a sad loser. Meanwhile, here’s what the local newspaper is reporting:

    Olsen’s skull was fractured when he was hit by a projectile that apparently came from police lines. Olsen, a member of Iraq Veterans Against the War, was standing at the front of the crowd at 14th Street and Broadway when he fell to the ground.

    As other protesters came to Olsen’s aid, an officer tossed another canister at the group, video of the incident shows.

    One of the protesters seen in the video, Claire Chadwick, 20, said she had been pleading with the officers to help Olsen when the device exploded at her feet.

    “They wouldn’t help him,” Chadwick said. “I’m still in shock by their response.”

    Fellow protesters rushed Olsen to Highland, where he was unconscious for 12 hours. His brain was bruised, doctors said, and swelling continues to be a problem.

    Emily Yates, 29, a fellow Iraq Veterans Against the War member, said it was ironic that her friend Olsen – whom she described as a kind and gentle person – would suffer the most serious injury of anyone involved in Tuesday’s protests.

    “I wasn’t vocal enough in this movement until this happened to Scott,” Yates said while attending a rally at Frank Ogawa Plaza on Friday. “This was enough to put me in the game.”

    Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/10/28/BA791LNMQ8.DTL#ixzz1cBZVkL2o

  14. watsonredux October 29, 2011 / 11:43 am

    retired spook wrote, “I’m still waiting for Watson to explain where the media has gotten it wrong about OWS.”

    I’m still waiting for you to, you know, talk to some of the folks in the movement so that you can at least extend them the same benefit of the doubt that you do your Tea Party pals. But I think you find it better to play dumb.

    • RetiredSpook October 29, 2011 / 12:22 pm

      Sorry, Watson; not too many OWS people to talk to in rural northeastern Indiana. And I haven’t made anything up about OWS types; I’ve only commented on what was in the news. If you know anything I’ve said is untrue, you’ve been invited to say so a number of times. If all you’re going to do is throw more sh*t, then piss off.

      • watsonredux October 29, 2011 / 12:31 pm

        Then keep believing the media that you don’t believe is accurate. Unfortunately, I think your intellectually dishonest here, but whatever.

      • RetiredSpook October 29, 2011 / 1:49 pm

        Then keep believing the media that you don’t believe is accurate. Unfortunately, I think your intellectually dishonest here, but whatever.

        So that would be a NO; you still haven’t found anything that’s been reported about OWS that’s not true. Keep digging, creep.

      • watsonredux October 29, 2011 / 5:33 pm

        I haven’t look. You miss the point. The point is that you rely on the media for your information about OWS even though you admit that you have no idea if it is correct, and evidently you expect others to verify its accuracy for you. Yet for the Tea Party you tell us all not to rely on the media at all because you know from firsthand experience that it is inaccurate; the only way to understand the Tea Party is by participating in it. That you can extend that logic to OWS is breathtakingly obtuse.

      • bardolf October 29, 2011 / 5:44 pm

        http://occupyfortwayne.org/

        Spook, there is a group in Ft. Wayne who needs to understand how their future is being sold down the river.

      • RetiredSpook October 29, 2011 / 6:02 pm

        Spook, there is a group in Ft. Wayne who needs to understand how their future is being sold down the river.

        I’m sorry I missed that, Dolf. I’ve been out cutting firewood most of the day. Initial news reports of the Occupy movement in Fort Wayne indicated that only a handful of people showed up last week or the week before. Hopefully the local media will provide an accurate account of the rally. The first Tea Party rally we attended in April, 2009, filled the Court House Plaza — somewhere around 500. It’ll be interesting to see what kind of response this one generates.

      • Amazona October 30, 2011 / 10:29 am

        Who do YOU rely on for YOUR “information”, wattle?

        Oh, yeah, “the media”. You do realize that lying hatemongers like Schultz, Rhodes, et al are part of “THE MEDIA” don’t you?

        “Media” is plural for “medium”——the print medium, television, radio, the internet. Each of these is a medium for communication, and “media” is the word for all of them together.

        So unless you are personally out there, wading through the filth and stench, getting your “information” firsthand from one of the protesters, you are also getting your “information” from at least one communications medium.

        BTW, yes, we DO realize how limited your posts would be if you only talked about what you actually know.

  15. Cluster October 29, 2011 / 11:44 am

    I think we should all be a little alarmed by the racism on the left:

    And I think they like him because they think he’s a black man who knows his place. I know that’s harsh, but that’s how it sure seems to me.” – Martin Bashir, MSNBC

    And the rush to demonize hard working union members by the left. Racism, anti-union, lack of civility – I tell you these extremists on the left on dangerous for the country.

  16. dbschmidt October 29, 2011 / 5:52 pm

    Bardolf,

    “Your freedom of speech descends from the government” has officially entered you into the stupidest fu^king thing ever posted as in this great nation government gets all of it’s rights and powers from the population, hence “We the people”. The government gets it’s limited power from the people and we hope to return to a very limited government soon but never have the people ever been given a right by government. The only rights there are and we the people were endowed with came from our Creator~and that sure as sh^t isn’t government.

    Damn, hope they paid you back for all of that misspent money on your ed-u-mi-cation.

  17. Green Mountain Boy October 30, 2011 / 4:34 am

    Stay classy there occupiers. Sooner or later you will get your Kent State moment. Any volunteers to be the victims?

    You will notice that the idiot that tried to knock the Police motorcycle over didn’t even have the guts to try it from the front.

    What a buch of filthy little cowards.

    • J. R. Babcock October 30, 2011 / 8:12 am

      Sooner or later you will get your Kent State moment.

      Only a matter of time, when they realize that their present tactics aren’t accomplishing anything.

  18. J. R. Babcock October 30, 2011 / 9:51 am

    A friend sent me this link the the Blaze article about the protests in Denver.

    http://tinyurl.com/3cxp5e4

    The comments are even more interesting than the article itself. I especially liked this one, as the guy comes up with a new term for the protesters: “arrestables” – LOL.

    zoo9guy
    Posted on October 29, 2011 at 11:44pm

    “Yes, it will snap, exactly as the manipulators of these arrestables wants. These useful idiots are being stoked into a raging fire that will not end well and then the top down pressure will come to clamp down on all our rights. At this point, I would recommend some extra food, cash and ammo, also prayer to what ever superior force you believe in that this is over soon and as few people get hurt or worse as possible.”

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