Another Debate, Another Open Thread

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84 thoughts on “Another Debate, Another Open Thread

  1. neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 10:12 pm

    This is what I want from my candidate…….

    ““If elected, I promise to do nothing. I promise to stay out of your hair.
    If I do rouse myself to do something, it will be to stop my colleagues from doing anything and to keep them out of your hair.
    You’ve lived your whole life without me looking over your shoulder; I propose to avoid looking over your shoulder as much as humanly possible”.


    • bardolf January 26, 2012 / 10:21 pm


      You voted for Newt instead of Paul.

      • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 10:24 pm

        you do not understand wit and sarcasm?
        “stick” to what you know best master debater.

        I voted for newt because OF the Fn loon paul and the flopper.

      • bardolf January 26, 2012 / 10:36 pm

        Your suckasm is at the Bwany Frank level. Stick to kneepads or soon Matt will be calling you a lying douchebag.

        Is being a loon a neurological condition?

      • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 10:40 pm

        is a master debater a sticky wicket?

      • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 10:44 pm



      • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 11:06 pm

        Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?
        The American Dream ^ | 1-26-2012 | Michael Snyder

        Is Now The Time To Move Away From Major U.S. Cities?

        January 26, 2011

        As the U.S. economy falls apart and as the world becomes increasingly unstable, more Americans than ever are becoming “preppers”. It is estimated that there are at least two million preppers in the United States today, but nobody really knows.

        The truth is that it is hard to take a poll because a lot of preppers simply do not talk about their preparations.

        Your neighbor could be storing up food in the garage or in an extra bedroom and you might never even know it. An increasing number of Americans are convinced that we are on the verge of some really bad things happening.
        But will just storing up some extra food and supplies be enough?

        What is going to happen if we see widespread rioting in major U.S. cities like George Soros is predicting? What is going to happen if the economy totally falls to pieces and our city centers descend into anarchy like we saw in New Orleans during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina? In some major U.S. cities such as Detroit, looting is already rampant.
        There are some sections of Detroit where entire blocks of houses are being slowly dismantled by thieves and stripped of anything valuable. Sadly, the economy is going to get a lot worse than it is at the moment.

        So is now the time to move away from major U.S. cities? Should preppers be seeking safer locations for themselves and their families? Those are legitimate questions.

        According to a recent Gallup poll, satisfaction with the government is now at an all-time low. Americans are rapidly losing faith in virtually every major institution in society.

        and ARM up while you are at it.

  2. 6206j January 26, 2012 / 11:25 pm

    Twitter says Rommey took a chainsaw to Newt. Does Newt have a third resurrection? I doubt it. Also, Romney argued the individual mandate better than Barry ever has.

    • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 11:29 pm


      and mcLame beat mittens BFD
      yesterdays old news…… from the recycle bin?

      • 6206j January 26, 2012 / 11:33 pm

        Fmr did you watch the debate?

      • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 11:38 pm


        Fmr Elvis did you watch the debate?
        No I have ESP n

  3. 6206j January 26, 2012 / 11:32 pm

    Is the server for this blog in Halifax Canada? What’s with the time of the posts?

    • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 11:41 pm


      What’s with the time of the posts?

      Nothing, it is all in your head.
      did you see that?? 🙂

      • neocon1 January 26, 2012 / 11:47 pm

        well the 13 = unlucky and the other is bad if it is you and bwany but hey what ever floats your boat….

      • 6206j January 26, 2012 / 11:54 pm


      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 12:03 am


        Im ok wit dat…….

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 12:23 am

        go Fig

      • bardolf January 28, 2012 / 11:50 pm


        The thread makes no sense with outrageously funny removed.

  4. Green Mountain Boy January 27, 2012 / 12:40 am

    Mitt Romney will do and say anything to be POTUS?


    Say it aint so Neo, Say it aint so.

    He is just nuanced, misunderstood, and taken out of context more than any other politician in history. Most of all he is man who will listen to will of the people.

    Do I really need the /sarcoff tag?

    • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 12:50 am


      Do I really need the /sarcoff tag?

      not for me the king of sarcasm, for some of the others? eeeh maybe.

      • Green Mountain Boy January 27, 2012 / 1:02 am

        The repub party needs more Browns, Kirks, Snows, Collins, Grahems, McCains, “SOPA” Smiths, and most of all the repubs need more John ” I will bypass the TEA party folks and work the donkyrats to get a budget” Boehners.

        Yupp, get a few more of that type of isle crosser the repubs will have a winning team. Say goodbye to the welfare state folks.!!

      • Green Mountain Boy January 27, 2012 / 1:14 am

        The military and defese budget are being guttet by the piece of garbage in the white house. Defense of our country is one of the few constitutional duties written down on that document.

        Will the cry baby go along with this? More than likely because it is the will of the people and a consenus builder. Have to compromise sometime don’t ya know.

        Coktails at 9 pm? I am there baby!

    • bardolf January 27, 2012 / 1:14 am


      Mitt got the Newt good for promising space stations in FL, VA hospitals in SC, … Something for everyone. I didn’t know the balanced budget was accomplished by a raid on social security.

      It is over for Newt in FL. The bench is looking lean and it seems a Mitt Obama throw down in Nov.

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 1:16 am


        I live in Fla and NOBODY NOBODY wants mittens.
        sooo we shall see mr master debater.

      • Green Mountain Boy January 27, 2012 / 1:17 am

        Like I have said before, a narrow victory for Darth Flipflop. He will win the electoral college but not the popular vote. Chaos insues.
        Maybe even open violence on part of the progressives.

        Best be ready to defend yourself and what is yours. Being prepared never hurt anybody did it?

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 1:20 am


        it is known as being a “prepper” and I am ready 🙂

      • Green Mountain Boy January 27, 2012 / 1:31 am

        The average mennonite was a prepper before the term was coined. Live simple and be prepared.

        Most of my neighbors think I am strange for having electricity. Oh well you can choose your friends but not your family. 🙂

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 1:38 am

        mitt.. the miami area probably,
        my area probably not
        the northern county’s never.
        it will be interesting to see.

  5. Cluster January 27, 2012 / 8:29 am

    I am really tired of the elementary level of questioning, and the subsequent food fight that ensues in these debates, therefore I didn’t watch too much last night, but in the little I did, I was glad to see Romney be more forceful. He will need more of a back bone if he is too effectively combat the impending democrat attacks. I think Coach Herb Brooks (played by Kurt Russell) in the movie Miracle, about the 1980 US Olympic hockey team (one of my favorites) said it best – “The team that is best prepared to play their game and shove it right down their throats, will be the team to finally beat the Russians” (who had not been beaten in 20 years). And that is what it will take to beat Obama. We will need to take his dishonest pandering and shove it right down his throat.

  6. Canadian Observer January 27, 2012 / 9:15 am

    Don’t y’all fret now, according to her devoted supporters, there will be a Savior who, when she deems the time is right, will sweep in from the frozen North on her trusty Grizzly to save the day. Pay no mind to the current puny lineup; they’re just keeping this mighty warrior’s spot warm. If there is anyone who knows how to govern in the way the Founding Fathers decreed, it is her.

    So, buck up people; no need to moan and groan over the poor picks now vying for POTUS as there will soon be a candidate with superb credentials, a true Christian in word & deed, someone every real Conservative can support with a glad & grateful heart. Once the American voter sees how she demolishes the President in debate, it won’t matter what Party you support, your vote will belong to Sarah.

    • Cluster January 27, 2012 / 10:03 am

      Still obsessed with Palin? Wow.

      • Canadian Observer January 27, 2012 / 10:14 am

        I’m only one of many, Cluster. Here’s an example from the Conservatives4Palin site which should give you an idea of the admiration she so rightly garners:-

        BrianusBerkleianus Today 03:05 AM
        My Dear Friends in Sarah,

        Happy Friday to you all!!

        Here are a few thoughts on her interview with John Stossel last night.

        The marvelous thread and theme that I saw running its bright course through her brief but golden ten or so minutes with Stossel was that Sarah is THE anti-obama, and that SHE has to be the one to take on and take down the “anointed one” this year.

        The contrasts are stirring and instructive.

        First, obama obfuscates. In his State of the Union address he discusses energy, but totally ignores the major failures of his “administration” in this area.

        Sarah in the interview exposes him, and hurls forth hammer blows against him with her lips: Keystone; ANWR; Solyndra!! He ducks and lies; Sarah clarifies and sheds light!! You can run, but you can’t hide, “mr. president”!!!

        Second, obama circumvents the Constitution and the Senate with his “czars” and other appointments.

        Sarah calls him and them out, and denounces them for their failed Socialist policies.

        Third, obama falsely cites Lincoln in as classic an example of Orwellian “oratory” as I have perhaps ever witnessed. barack hussein obama cites Lincoln that government should not do for the People what the People can do for themselves. Wow!! Has there ever been a more shameless liar and obfuscator and manipulator in our nation’s history?!? This enemy of Liberty and of Independence tries to sound like a defender of the Tenth Amendment. Mein Himmel!!!

        Sarah wields the Sword of Citation in exactly the opposite way. She cites another great figure from the past, Sir Winston Churchill. But, unlike obama’s risible and ridiculous citation of Lincoln, Sarah’s summoning of Churchill as an advocate and witness from the past is spot on. She cites the great hero of Britain versus the “gospel” of envy and the “gospel” of shared misery.

        Further, to return briefly to the early part of the interview, she calls out the “president,” who tries to claim that he is doing something great by freeing millions of acres in the Gulf of Mexico for oil drilling. Sarah, who lives in the real world, and knows energy issues as well as anyone alive today, contrasts the REALITY that she knows as an energy expert with obama’s FABLES: You cannot wave a magic wand and quickly and easily recall the oil companies and their rigs that have departed from an area that has been sealed off from energy development!!

        obama gives America barrels of rhetoric, not barrels of oil!!!

        The ancient battle continues: Thinkers like Aristotle and our Founders, economists like Milton Friedman and so many others who were REALISTS clash with Utopian Socialists/Communists like obama and his minions, who live in a world of UNREALITY. Indeed, Sarah used the very word “utopia” against the usurper in the White House. Let us remember that it was St. Thomas More who created the word “utopia” from two Greeks words, meaning literally “No-Place,” i.e., a place that does not exist; a world of Unreality that is severed forever from the LORD, the ULTIMATE REALITY.

        In this interview, our Sarah demonstrated yet again why she has to carry, not just the GOP’s Standard, but the Reagan/Palin Democrats’ Standard, the Independents’ Standard … indeed AMERICA’S STANDARD in the great campaign to drive the usurper out of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue this fall.

        To sum up:

        SARAH, a real lady, LIVES IN ALASKA; she lives in the bright, bracing Great Land; she lives on the wondrous and wonderful Final Frontier. She even talked about this in the interview. She spoke about what ordinary people do; she spoke about raising kids; she spoke about running businesses. She said, “Life happens.”

        In contrast to Sarah:

        barack obama lives in UTOPIA , the foul, fetid “No-Place” where millions and millions of innocent men, women, and children during the crazed course of the bloody twentieth century perished on the false and sinister and sanguinary “altar” of a dream to build a “better” world based not on the LORD, not on REALITY, not on FREEDOM, but on A LIE!!!!

        The interview, brief in its glorious ten or so minutes, reminded us yet again of this great truth!

        God bless you all always!

        DEO VOLENTE, SARAH 2012!!!!


      • Cluster January 27, 2012 / 10:20 am

        Well at least you admitted your obsession. But quoting an opinion piece from her website, doesn’t actually give your opinion credibility, nor does it mean that the masses are in her camp, or slavishly devoted. I am one conservative that believes Palin is best suited for what she is currently doing, and that is promoting Sarah Palin.

        She is the Michael Moore of the conservative movement.

      • maudmabelethelsmithsonianmcdaniel-jones January 29, 2012 / 12:11 pm

        But it’s not her website, it is a website created by someone else who claims to be a conservative for Palin. Maybe yes, maybe no. Anyone could do a website called LiberalsforCanadianObserver and post any kind of nonsense and we could quote it to prove he is an idiot.

        Of course no one has to do that, he posts here and does the job for us, but you get the idea. On there could be articles about how he and bagni are one and the same, hate people of color, eat worms, turn their underwear inside out to get another day out of it, were arrested for beastiality, believe that mankind came from a galaxy far far away, run a meth lab, and really live in New Jersey. Whose going to say different?

        Its the Internet folks, people can say whatever they want to and no one can stop them but this is not the Palin website.

      • Canadian Observer January 29, 2012 / 12:32 pm

        Conservatives4Palin is a website that chronicles, defends and promotes all things Palin. It was co-founded by Rebecca Mansour, who was hired to be Palin’s speechwriter when she came to the attention of the former Alaska governor through the website.

        It has since been overrun by fanatical Palin supporters. Some of the comments are so over-the-top I suspect that they are being posted by spoofers.

    • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 10:55 am


      see arguing wih idiots pg 13-69

    • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 12:26 pm


      your obsession of Sarah is on the dangerous level.
      I believe you have been reported to the FBI at least once from a poster here.
      seek help frog before you get boiled.

      • Canadian Observer January 27, 2012 / 1:03 pm

        The FBI has no jurisdiction or authority in Canada, Neocon, but they might conceivably be invited to participate with the RCMP on a joint investigation. Perhaps it might be prudent for me to rein in my ‘adoration’ of this American patriot, haha.

        I believe Jeremiah, among others here, has hinted that he would not be unhappy if Mrs. Palin were to move her address from Alaska to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

    • Chrissy Ann January 27, 2012 / 7:09 pm

      You have a problem with a white woman who speaks her mind? What are you..some kind of sexist?

      • Canadian Observer January 27, 2012 / 7:40 pm

        ‘Speaking her mind’ … Is that what you call those non-stop, hate-filled tirades she spews? Seems like a lot of verbal nonsense to me. BTW, Chrissy, there are plenty of white women who do have ‘minds’ and can use them quite well in expressing their opinions; Sarah, unfortunately, is just not one of them.

      • Count d'Haricots January 27, 2012 / 7:58 pm

        hate-filled tirades


        What more proof do you need that the wimpy whitey from Soviet Canuckastan has never listened to Gov. Palin?

        Strong women frighten hosers; they don’t want to be “just like Americans” they want to be Americans, they just don’t know how.

        Let the little fella have his moment, he just wants to be relevant since Canada lies entirely outside the stream of history.

      • Canadian Observer January 28, 2012 / 9:22 am

        Oh, come on now, Count, you know as well as I do that the majority of thinking Americans hold the same opinion of Mama Grizzly as we Kommie Kanucks.

        BTW, I suspect our born-again Christian Conservative Prime Minister, leaning to the Right as he does, might be a little miffed at your characterization of his constituents.

      • Amazona January 28, 2012 / 11:09 am

        Too funny. Not only do the radical Lefties really think they represent the “center”, now they think that the “majority of thinking Americans” agree with their irrational hysterical hatred of Palin.

        No, they don’t. In the echo chamber of the Rabidly Radical Left, I am sure there is unanimous loathing for Palin, but that is to be expected from people who view politics as nothing more than a slugfest where some invent lies about people and others recirculate them with great glee.

        What poor delicate flower Canucky is sniveling about as “hate-filled tirades” are really just objective observations of the antics of the side he supports and defends in spite of his ignorance of its ideology. Instead of examining what she says (which is really quite benign) and fact-checking to see if she is right (and she is) he snaps to the default position of the RRL dupes and drones and goes into attack mode, attacking the person and not trying to rebut the message.

        The truth is so terrifying to the RRL dupes and drones, and especially to their minders who know full well that they have to keep the fantasy and illusions going to keep their base intact, that when it is spoken by a popular and articulate observer they have to do anything they can to silence her. So, a quick glance at the Alinksky handbook says to use ridicule. And the silly inane nicknames like “Mama Grizzly” are invented and circulated among the drooling masses eager for something they can find nasty enough to attract them.

        Just as you will find flies swarming over s**t, you will find the RRL dupes and drones inexorably drawn to the nastiest excrement their minders can deposit for them. And on this steaming pile you will see the Canuck, and Velma, and their kind, buzzing with glee and looking for the stinkiest parts.

      • Canadian Observer January 28, 2012 / 12:28 pm

        And the silly inane nicknames like “Mama Grizzly” are invented and circulated among the drooling masses eager for something they can find nasty enough to attract them…Amazona

        You may want to retract that particular sentence, Amazona, unless you are calling Mrs. Palin & her followers ‘silly, drooling masses’.

        “Mama grizzly is a term that former U.S. vice presidential candidate and Alaska governor Sarah Palin coined to refer to herself, then later applied to female candidates she supported or endorsed in the 2010 U.S. midterm elections. Palin first used the term in a May 2010 speech at a fundraiser for the Susan B. Anthony List, a pro-life women’s group, and used it in a July 2010 YouTube video produced by SarahPAC, Palin’s political action committee, for the 2010 elections. By September 2010, “mama grizzly” was deemed to be “part of the lexicon” of the election by Newsweek magazine. It has never been made clear if the term is meant to refer to all women candidates supported by the former governor, or if it is just a general concept about real-life moms entering politics because they fear for their children’s future.”

      • neocon1 January 29, 2012 / 11:10 am


        compulsive obsessive over a US politician, CLAIMING she uses “hate” rhetoric while spewing HATE rhetoric about her.

        maybe time for a visit from the RCMP and the USSS

      • maudmabelethelsmithsonianmcdaniel-jones January 29, 2012 / 12:18 pm

        A description not a name. Newsweek coined the phrase? Just like Amazona said “So, a quick glance at the Alinksky handbook says to use ridicule. And the silly inane nicknames like “Mama Grizzly” are invented and circulated among the drooling masses eager for something they can find nasty enough to attract them.” Some on the left thought a description of an attitude or behavior could be spun into a name to make fun of her and the drooling masses fell for it. The term was used to describe an attitued, the nasty left picked it up and applied it to her as a name, your kind picked it up, your kind uses it.

  7. Morepatrioticthanu January 27, 2012 / 10:17 am

    Romney was the only one on that stage who truly loves America! None of the other were even wearing American flag lapel pins!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Morepatrioticthanu January 27, 2012 / 10:20 am

    Gingrich and Paul didn’t even sing the National Anthem!!!!!!

    Santorum sang with Patriot Mitt Romney, but I don’t think he knew all the words. . . and he looked uncomfortable, maybe because he didn’t have a LAPEL PIN!

    Why does Santorum hate America?

    • Cluster January 27, 2012 / 10:22 am

      Thank you for proving my earlier assertion:

      I am really tired of the elementary level of questioning

    • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 10:55 am


      why does Ochimpy?

      • Morepatrioticthanu January 27, 2012 / 4:22 pm

        I hate when people call Pres. Bush “chimpy”, but he did wear an American flag lapel pin!!!!

        Even the current Pres. wears the American flag lapel pin!!!!

        Santorum, Gingrich, and Paul are unfit to be President because of their hate for America!!!!!!

      • neocon1 January 28, 2012 / 8:12 am


        like this you MORON?

      • neocon1 January 28, 2012 / 8:13 am


        Obammer = Ochimpy

      • Amazona January 28, 2012 / 10:29 am

        Maybe not wearing a lapel pin means Santorum is a racist.

      • Amazona January 28, 2012 / 11:10 am

        But it’s nice to see another RRL dupe illustrating the level of political knowledge and commitment that marks his group of Pseudo-Leftist snark.

  9. Russ January 27, 2012 / 10:33 am

    “These two gentleman … have been playing petty politics. Can we set aside that Newt was a member of Congress and used the skills that he developed as a member of Congress to go out and advise companies and that’s not the worst thing in the world, and that Mitt Romney is a wealthy guy because he worked hard.” – Rick Santorum.
    As I said before, Newt didn’t start this. Can’t stand the heat? Newt decided to stay in the kitchen but it’s Romney’s recipe that is being used.
    Romney is a successful businessman, a multi millionaire, so why did he decide to be governor, love for the state of Massachusetts? Why is he running for president for the second time, love of country?
    All the money he has made doesn’t set him apart from the Bill Gate’s, Steve Job’s or the Donald Trump’s of his world. What drives Romney is the opportunity to be a part of an prestigious exclusive group who has resided at the address of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Washington D.C., this is all about Mitt Romney. He will do whatever it takes, say whatever is necessary, spend whatever necessary to get that membership. He has solidified my resolve in not voting if he’s the party’s nominee.

    • Cluster January 27, 2012 / 10:48 am

      Interesting that you are able to get into the mind of Mitt Romney and determine his personal motives with certainty, all the while placing nothing but pure and noble intentions on the other campaigns. You must have borrowed that liberal crystal ball.

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 10:57 am

        maybe he has ESP n

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 11:47 am

        what a Maroon……..LOL

        Obama leaves event promoting clean energy in a motorcade of 22 fossil-fueled vehicles…

        ADVANCED ECONOMICS: I Want An Economy ‘Where We’re Making Stuff And Selling Stuff And Moving It Around’…

        bring on the breathalizer “debates”

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 11:52 am

        Like President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton says she hasn’t been watching the Republican primary debates. But at least Clinton has an excuse for tuning out — she says she’s quitting government after the election no matter who wins.

        Thank God, another commie alinskyite bites the dust. let me be the first to wish you and that sleazy perv you “stand by” AMF

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 12:07 pm

        holy moley batman

        Shock Report: TARP Fraud Grows, Feds Admit Taxpayers ‘Will Never Get Back’ Billions of Dollars

        “TARP is not over.”

      • RetiredSpook January 27, 2012 / 3:09 pm

        I Want An Economy ‘Where We’re Making Stuff And Selling Stuff And Moving It Around’…

        Neo, the problem is that BHOzo’s idea of moving stuff around is something like this.

      • neocon1 January 28, 2012 / 8:14 am


        I saw a guy that looked a lot like barry in NYC doing just that several years ago……you dont suppose????

    • Amazona January 28, 2012 / 10:42 am

      Russ, not being much of a Newt fan OR a Romney fan, I have been watching their exchanges from a little distance, and what bothers me is that they are both lying. I have no problem with legitimate criticism, and both men have political histories that offer up plenty of opportunities.

      But Romney lies when he accuses Newt of lobbying or being in bed with Fannie Mae. What Newt did was provide a service for Fannie Mae, and get paid for it. He was hired as a consultant, and he ended up telling them they were doing things wrong, and they should change. They paid him for this opinion. He did not promote Fannie Mae, he did not encourage them to keep on doing what they had been doing, he did not try to use any influence to get anyone else to give them any slack or any money or anything at all.

      He could have been hired as a consultant to tell them how to improve their buildings, or where to get good prices on printing.

      Accusing Newt of “lobbying” for Fannie Mae, or of doing anything wrong in being hired by them to evaluate part of their operation and tell them what he thought, is demagoguery, and it is vile.

      Newt knows full well that Romney earned a lot of money, paid high taxes on that money, and then invested it. To try to sway the ignorant and surly with false claims that Romney is “only” paying a low tax rate on the return on his investment is also demagoguery and also vile. Newt understands the need to encourage investment in this economy, and he understands that this latest tax on this latest income is the second time Romney has been taxed on his money. Shame on him.

      If this were a clean fight, with both men making legitimate points, it wouldn’t bother me even it it did get nasty. But seeing both of them stooping to outright lies to smear the opponent is changing my mind about both of them.

      I think either one of them could make a good president. I think that the process has focused both of them on what will be needed to get elected and to stay in office, and both are very qualified. But this lying is starting to make me dislike both of them.

      • RetiredSpook January 28, 2012 / 11:18 am


        You and I disagree about as often as when the New York times gets something right (IOW, not very often), but in Newt’s case, I think the NYT gets it right.

        Under the federal lobbying law, Newt Gingrich can legitimately claim that he is not a lobbyist. That alone demonstrates how much the law needs to be changed.

        As his rival for the Republican presidential nomination, Mitt Romney, regularly and correctly points out, Mr. Gingrich has made a great deal of money in Washington peddling his influence, while carefully staying about half-an-inch short of the legal definition of lobbyist. He is only one of thousands of people in Washington’s influence industry who skirt the common-sense definition of lobbying by taking advantage of the law’s loopholes.

        The Lobbying Disclosure Act of 1995 has three tests: 1) Do you make more than $3,000 over three months from lobbying? 2) Have you had more than one lobbying contact? 3) Have you spent more than 20 percent of your time lobbying for a single client over three months?

        Only a person who has met all three tests must register as a lobbyist. So a former lawmaker who has many lobbying contacts and makes $1 million a year lobbying but has no single client who takes up more than 20 percent of his time would not be considered a lobbyist.

  10. Sunny January 27, 2012 / 12:29 pm

    From the NBC/WSJ Poll

    Gingrich’s problems – women, independents, ‘personal standards’
    Gingrich particularly struggles with women and independents. Women say they would vote for Obama over Gingrich by a wide 69-21 percent gap, far wider than the 54-38 percent difference by which Obama beats Romney.

    With independents, Gingrich gets just 28 percent against Obama, who wins with 52 percent. By contrast, Obama narrowly edges Romney with independents, 44 percent to 36 percent.

    Asked if the candidate has “high personal standards that set the proper tone for the country,” Romney gets a 67 percent positive score, Gingrich checks in at 32 percent.

    Issues of character for Gingrich haven’t “been put to rest,” Hart said. “It may have been a great debate point last week, but there is still uncertainty among all voters.”

    • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 2:57 pm


      Gingrich’s problems – women, independents, ‘personal standards’
      Gingrich particularly struggles with women and independents. Women say they would vote for Obama over Gingrich by a wide 69-21 percent gap, far wider than the 54-38 percent difference by which Obama beats Romney.


      Issues of character for Gingrich haven’t “been put to rest,”

      good grief the commie donk party and your minions have no character at all unless one considers, fraud, adultry, homosexuality, tax theft, lies, mobsters, terrorists, fake soldiers, draft dodgers, and dopers to be people of character.

      Oh and grifters

    • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 3:06 pm

      poooor scummy

      Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows Newt Gingrich leading Mitt Romney (+9!)

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 3:13 pm


        Mr. and Mrs. Cranky Pants [Obama’s Other Similar Snit Fits-Sulks, Storms Off] ^ | January 27, 2012 10:35 AM | by Michelle Malkin

        So, it turns out that the cool cat billed as “No Drama Obama” by his sycophants is actually quite the drama queen. While the White House publicly pretends to ignore conservative detractors of his administration, Chief Touchy-Touchy seems to be personally consumed by our critiques. Yes, mine included.

        On Wednesday, the president had himself a mini-”Toddlers and Tiaras”-style meltdown with Arizona GOP Gov. Jan Brewer after landing in Phoenix for a post-State of the Union dog-and-pony show.

        As Brewer told pool reporters on the scene, Obama took umbrage at Brewer’s recent memoir. She minced no words on the cover: “Scorpions for Breakfast: My Fight Against Special Interests, Liberal Media, and Cynical Politicos to Secure America’s Border.” And she minced no words describing her impressions of Obama as they sparred over her state’s tough immigration enforcement law,

        which is now the subject of a Justice Department witch-hunt. Brewer called Obama “patronizing” and “condescending.” I’d say she was excruciatingly polite.

        According to Brewer, “He was a little disturbed about my book. … I said to him that I have all the respect in the world for the office of the president. The book is what the book is. I asked him if he read the book. He said he read (an) excerpt.” In the shadow of Air Force One, Obama complained that Brewer hadn’t “treated him cordially” and then stalked off while she was responding mid-sentence.

        Photogs captured the fracas on film. The civility police gasped at Brewer’s “disrespectful” finger-pointing.

        On cue,***** one progressive commentator insinuated the gesture was a “racist” jab tantamount to lynching.*******

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 3:18 pm

        Po lil man child,
        you can take the community agitator out of the community but you cant………..

        More Snits and Really Condescending remarks to go around coming out of Obama’s Administration:

        Reported by NewsBusters: CBS’s Sharyl Attkisson on “Laura Ingraham Show” and the extent of the rage directed at her from the Obama administration for her reporting on the “Fast and Furious” controversy:
        “The DOJ woman was just yelling at me. A guy from the White House on Friday night literally screamed at me and cussed at me.”

        Politico reported in JULY 2011:
        “President Barack Obama abruptly walked out of a stormy Debt-Limit Meeting with congressional leaders Wednesday” adding some unexpected Drama to already tense negotiations.
        “He shoved back and said ‘I’ll see you tomorrow’ and walked out,” House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) told reporters after the meeting.”

        “This process is confirming what the American people think is the worst about Washington,” ABC reported the president said:
        “Everyone is more interested in posturing, political position and protecting their base than in solving problems.

        Obama had also Threatened to halt the distribution of Social Security checks, welfare and EBT checks from going out after August 2nd.

        During the heated exchange, the President then compared himself to Ronald Reagan when he asked Cantor : “Would Ronald Reagan be sitting here?” [What would Reagan do?]

        Obama added: “I’ve reached my limit. This may bring my presidency down, but I will not yield on this.” ]…OHH Plaeas Lord!!!

      • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 3:31 pm

        “Having a president — the most powerful single man in the world — who isn’t engaged with reality is very scary.

        It’s not just about politics and ideology, there are three other factors.

        First, Obama doesn’t have the experience, character, or personality to be president. To put it flatly: he’s in over his head. And that might mean we are the ones who may drown. So it isn’t just having a left-wing president but a very inept one. A normal left-wing president with a hidden agenda would want to make himself and his agenda succeed as much as possible.

        Second, Obama doesn’t have a very good understanding of America, its history, its system or its institutions. We see this constantly in his attitude toward the basic governmental structures. He simply doesn’t seem, for example, to comprehend the role of Congress. Obama really thinks that Congress has no right to thwart him, and he isn’t quite sure that the Supreme Court, not him, determines what is Constitutional. He has no real idea how the economic system works, including the function of the bankruptcy laws or of the private enterprise system generally. What could be more ironic than the fact that the man who is supposed to be the smartest guy around is, in functional terms, the dumbest guy around?

        He was never a governor so he doesn’t know how states work or how to administer. He was never a really effective or experienced member of Congress so he doesn’t understand the legislative process. He was never a real working lawyer so he doesn’t comprehend the court system.

        Third, Obama is fundamentally alien to the United States. His ostensible race is a red herring. If Obama were an “African-American” who was intimately involved in growing up in such a community there would be no such problem. In real material terms, though, he doesn’t even care for that community, from which he is also fundamentally detached, ignoring the economic suffering there. He is a Martha’s Vineyard man, not a “ghetto” man.

        If not for having become entangled in the race issue, Obama’s profound incompetence — his inarticulateness, lack of knowledge about issues and processes — would be obvious to all.

        The issue is also not where Obama was born. It is how his mind developed after he was born and it did so overwhelmingly outside the system: in other countries, in ivory tower academia, in radical circles fundamentally opposed to the historic liberal-conservative political spectrum.

        It is like choosing a ship’s captain at random, settling on someone who has barely been on a ship at all. You get someone who when he sees an iceberg ahead thinks only that it is no doubt melting, inconveniencing polar bears and proving the existence of
        man-made global warming.</i?"

    • Amazona January 28, 2012 / 10:26 am

      Tell you what, Velma.

      Just don’t vote for Newt.

      And then shut up and go away.

    • Amazona January 28, 2012 / 10:48 am

      Velma’s obsession with the Republican primary is inexplicable, unless you realize that to her, this is a chance to viciously attack people again, a passion she has tried to keep fresh since Bush left office by continuing her insane tirades against him but which has to be wearing out a little.

      She shouldn’t care who we nominate. She could sit back and wait to see, and then start to unload her vicious lying vitriolic hatred on whoever. But no—-her pathological need to attack has her in the middle of the nomination process as well. She just can’t wait that long.

      Searching for horrible things to say about people, and then saying them over and over again, is all that gets her motor running. I have a feeling her neighbors and co-workers in Tulsa have cut her off and made her a pariah, so she has to come online to find places to spew her seething hatreds and bigotries.

  11. neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 3:35 pm

    Although the media would love to present Barack Obama as seven times brainier than George W. Bush, Byron Tau of Politico reports “President Obama’s 2012 State of the Union address again rated at an 8th grade comprehension level on the Flesch-Kincaid readability test —

    the third lowest score of any State of the Union address since 1934.”

    Read more:

    • neocon1 January 27, 2012 / 3:43 pm

      PALM BEACH — First lady Michelle Obama finished a daylong sweep through Florida on Thursday asking a crowd of supporters at an oceanfront estate here to support her husband – knock on doors, register others to vote and “take your neighbors and shake them up a bit.”

      see the first maid there would shake them up

  12. Sunny January 27, 2012 / 4:23 pm

    Neo, doesn’t you wife have a job for you to do around the house? Can’t you see no one wants to play with you here???? Get a frickin life buddy.

    • Chrissy Ann January 27, 2012 / 5:51 pm

      Who are you to dictate to anyone on this blog. If you can’t stand Neo’s answers then move on. Are you in 7th grade?

      • Count d'Haricots January 27, 2012 / 6:20 pm

        Hear hear!

      • tiredoflibbs January 28, 2012 / 7:44 am

        velma suffers from ironic projection.

        She claims (in another post), “she does not have time to do research” to answer her own question when challenged by another. Well, her posts do indicate that she does not do any sort of research on a topic. She just regurgitates the latest dumbed down talking point designed for the ignorant masses who won’t even try to verify it. Velma is just a drone and she gets a little miffed at others who can so easily discredit her candidates (masters) and her talking points.

    • Amazona January 28, 2012 / 10:54 am

      Velma also fails to see the irony in her statement.

      She herself is obviously desperate to find a place to vent her considerable spleen, and the fact that she insists on coming here to foul the blog indicates that no one in her world will listen to her rant and rave about her pet hatreds and bigotries.

      And then she accuses someone ELSE of not having a life, and of being an outcast.

      Guess she didn’t find a mirror after all.

      Just curious—has Velma ever, even once, expressed a calm and rational opinion on the best way to run the nation?

      No, I didn’t think so. Neo has, many times, but Vel don’t DO politics. Vel does hatred. Vel does nasty, the nastier the better. She may feel that if she regurgitates some Lefty lie, like the one that Newt wants to get rid of child labor laws, she IS talking about politics, but all she is doing is illustrating to that to her, and her kind, politics is just an excuse to slime, smear and attack others.

  13. doug January 27, 2012 / 7:13 pm

    Newt needs to change the way he attacks Mitt, instead of calling him a liar, Newt should pound home that Mitt is “mistaken”. Keep pounding that he is ‘mistaken’ just like he was as governor when passing Romneycare and just as he was multiple times at Bain. Yes, he gets some things right, but he’s been “mistaken” on the big things.

  14. Jeremiah January 27, 2012 / 10:35 pm

    “Dear Mr. President,

    Welcome to Arizona!

    You‘ve arrived in a state at the forefront of America’s recovery — and her future. We were at the brink. We were at the bottom of the list in job creation. Today, we have a balanced budget and we’re in the top 10 for job creation. I’m proud of that hard-won recovery — the result of many tough decisions, courage and perseverance. My hope is while you are here you will have a chance to see our tremendous results first hand. We both love the great country, but we fundamentally disagree on how to best make America grow and prosper once again. I‘d love an opportunity to share with you how we’ve been able to turn Arizona around with hard choices that turned out to be the right ones. And, of course, my offer to visit the border — and buy lunch — still stands!

    With respect,

    So i wonder why the President was so angry with her? It appears she had to set him straight on his angered moment–Is America safe today? Ask Jan

  15. Jeremiah January 28, 2012 / 3:00 am

    A Must Watch…

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