48 thoughts on “Today’s Food For Thought…

  1. Amazona May 2, 2012 / 10:26 pm

    None of them is as dumb as all of them

  2. bozo May 3, 2012 / 3:04 am

    Ahahaha..hehe..hmmmm….soooo funny, you know, because OWS just luuuvs them some Democrats.

    I think you’ve gone soft. I mean, you were all “2nd Amendment remedies” and “blood of tyrants” and “live free or die” last year, but now, schmeh…”hey you kids got off my lawn” just doesn’t resonate quite like “from my cold dead hands” used to.

    I think you’re getting old.

  3. dvindice May 3, 2012 / 6:17 am

    Remember all the looting, violence and property damage that was done by the Tea Party? oh… wait… that was the OWS, nevermind. Nothing to see here citizen, move along….

    • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 9:54 am

      That is fine dvindice because the TEA Party is slowly slaughtering its own.
      From the Tucson Citizen:
      “Gilbert mass shooting: White supremacist J.T. Ready left tracks in politics.”

      • Cluster May 3, 2012 / 9:58 am

        Leave it to one brain dead fringe person to comment on another brain dead fringe person. Well done major

      • Leo Pusateri May 3, 2012 / 10:17 am

        When you think about it, the neo-socialist ‘progressive’ left are the ultimate white supremacists. They are the ones who insist that minorities have no chance in the world to make it without their big government oversight. Meanwhile, they have relegated generations of minority families to exist under glass ceilings, driving away male heads of households, leaving them precious few crumbs thrown their way by their white limousine liberal plantation overlords. They have done more damage to minority communities than any Grand Wizard (Robert “KKK-“Sheets” Byrd included) could ever hoped to have accomplished. And they continue to this day to terrorize their charges that they will be left with nothing; and that they will be ridiculed and derided should they even think of straying beyond the confines of their liberal establishment-imposed shackles (ask Clarence Thomas or Michael Steele how that feels).

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 11:16 am

        News flash!!!! The major pain lied!!

        OK, so it’s not exactly news. As a matter of fact, it is par for the course.

        So what does this Tucson Citizen have to say about J.T. Ready?

        Well, it says he self-identified as a Republican. For a while. Now here we get into that pesky identity vs ideology thing that makes the Left’s heads spin, but really, guys, it is an essential part of the facts.

        And oh, by the way, he was not connected in any way with the TEA Party—this is the lie in the major pain’s comment.

        Ready tried to align himself with Arizona Republicans. Ooooh, he had his PICTURE TAKEN with one!!!! What could be a closer tie than THAT??

        Actually, he was peripherally associated with a Republican.

        From the story, which of course the major pain declined to mention:

        Ready was allied briefly with former state Senate President Russell Pearce, and the two posed together for photographers during an anti-illegal-immigration rally at the state Capitol in June 2007. By the next year, as Ready’s ties to neo-Nazi and White supremacist groups became more apparent, Pearce disavowed him.

        Pearce, who was defeated last November in a recall election, is now first vice chairman of the Arizona Republican Party and is running again for the Senate, this time from the new District 26 in Mesa.

        Party spokesman Shane Wikfors said Pearce would not comment on Ready’s death. “He’s not going to want to have anything to do with him,” Wikfors said. “We categorically, absolutely had nothing to do with him.”

        For a time, Pitcavage said, Ready was a “mover and shaker” for the National Socialist Movement

        But Ready apparently was trying to re-enter politics this year and had formed a committee to seek the Democratic nomination for sheriff in Pinal County

        So what do we have here? We have a loon, who briefly tried to tag along with a Republican State Senator and got rejected, but whose real activities were with the National SOCIALIST Party and who wanted to run for office as a DEMOCRAT .

        And there is more: From an article by Morgan Loew and Lindsey Reiser on kpho.com, a local TV blog, Ready was a “ leader of the National Socialist Movement in Arizona. The group’s website claims its goal is to defend the rights of the white race. Critics argue that the NSM is a hate group that has veered into the anti-immigration movement.

        Ready stepped down as the state leader of the NSM two years ago, but still held close ties to the group and its members.

        And there is this statement from former state Senator Pearce: “”I worked with others to have him removed from his local position within our Republican Party because there has never been and will never be any room in our party or our lives for those preaching hatred. He was angry with me and stayed angry with me, and it has been several years since I have had reason to speak with J.T.”

        This is what the ever-lying major pain tries to reframe as a “the TEA Party ……. slaughtering its own.”.

        And you know what else is missing from the major pain’s deceptive post? Any reference to the victims as being TEA Party members, either. Or any tie to any political motive for the killing.

        Or any aspect of truth.

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 11:18 am

        Only a politically illiterate moron could conflate leadership in the National SOCIALIST Party and trying to run for office as a DEMOCRAT with supporting the TEA Party.

        A politically illiterate moron or a stone-cold liar, though in the case of the major pain the two are not mutually exclusive.

      • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 1:50 pm

        Mr Ready was seen at several TEA Party events and was an active member of of Mesa Tea Party patriots.

      • Leo Pusateri May 3, 2012 / 11:23 am

        It would appear that the ‘Major’ may be coming face-to-face with adult truth of life #23: Nothing feels quite so awkward or painful as that moment in a heated argument in which you realize you are WRONG.

      • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 1:49 pm

        The evidence shows clearly, Mr Pusateri that We are not wrong in this no matter how much you shout it.

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 11:26 am

        But will the major pain realize that she is wrong? Or admit it? Or just shrug it off and go snooping through the garbage for something else to hurl, true or not, in her quest for ‘gotchas’ on the Right?

        Because to her and her kind, or kinds, politics IS ‘gotchas’. And personality, and scandals, and validation of personality disorders by letting people pretend that their pathologies are really political commentary.

      • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 1:48 pm

        Mr Ready ran as a Democrat because he was angry at the Mesa GOP establishment for turning their back on him. Chief among those drawing Mr Ready’s ire was former State Senator Russell Pearce who actively supported him after being notified by the ADL of Ready’s anti-Semitic leanings.

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 12:37 pm

        Update: In the silly rag the demons call a newspaper the major pain has gone into detail about Ready being a “conservative”

        Many thanks for the ongoing proofs of political ignorance and dedication to using lies to further pseudo-political goals.

      • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 1:46 pm

        Mr Ready during his life on Terra was a conservative actively advocating for conservative causes and esposuing conservative ideology.

      • neocon1 May 3, 2012 / 1:27 pm

        moreDumbo pain……..

        hmmm is that like the Hispanic democrat crime watch captain who shot the black democrat thug tra von…..in Sanford?
        the slaughter continues…….ayeeeeee

      • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 1:45 pm

        Not at all alike.

      • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 1:58 pm

        Initially, Mr Peace lied that he never knew or affiliated with JT Ready but when video of him supporting him as late as 2007 surfaced his statement ths morning has changed:

        “Regarding whether I knew JT Ready, I did, as did many of us who have been involved in Mesa politics for a long time. When we first met JT he was fresh out of the Marine Corp and seemed like a decent person.He worked as a telephone fundraiser for Christian and pro-life groups, he dated the daughter of one of our District 18 members, and his attitudes and spoken opinions were good and decent. At some point in time darkness took his life over, his heart changed, and he began to associate with the more despicable groups in society.”

        Amazona, why did you choose to leave this portion of Pearce’s statement unquoted? Pearce failed to mention that Ready had been court martialed, twice and finally dishonorably discharged from the USMC. Despite this Ready played himself up as a “veteran” with an honorable record of service.

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 2:53 pm

        I didn’t quote it because I didn’t see it.

        But I would have, for the probative value of this: “At some point in time darkness took his life over, his heart changed, and he began to associate with the more despicable groups in society.”

        That is, he left his temporary and obviously superficial interest in conservative identity behind and moved toward the Left, where he remained and where he was firmly established when he died.

        The simple fact is, his murders and suicide had nothing to do with politics, and to refer to it as “the TEA Party slaughtering its own” is such a glaring example of dishonesty and clumsy demagoguery it needed to be called out.

        I do love the desperation of the rabidly radical Left, as they/you scramble to assign every negative act to some aspect of conservative political thought, when you don’t even know what conservative political thought IS.

        All you do is illustrate the dependence of the rabidly radical Left on politically ignorant but easily aroused people desperate to find some focal point for their irrational hatreds and resentments. Ready’s was not a political act, any more than a Christian driving drunk is a religious statement or a man killing a woman in a robbery is a sexual statement.

        The frantic need of the hate-driven Left and Pseudo-Left to invent conservative political meaning behind non-political acts which are simply nasty in and of themselves is nothing more than an indictment of the Left—its inability to attract quality people because of the quality of its ideology, and its dependence on personality-disordered fringes of mental health to promote it.

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 3:02 pm

        “Mr Ready during his life on Terra was a conservative actively advocating for conservative causes and esposuing (sic) conservative ideology.”

        Really? Quotes from Mr. Ready, please, verified as being his own words. Which “conservative causes” and which “conservative ideology”?

        How can you identify “conservative ideology” when you can’t even define it?

        You know this, somehow, due to your off-Terra vantage point?

        “And we all see the 2010s when rural people are destroying their lives by the thousands with methamphetamine. Pot meet kettle.”

        Do you even REALIZE how utterly stupid you sound? “Pot meet kettle”? Huh? Are you playing the “superiority by zip code” game, claiming that meth is a “rural” problem? Congratulations—-you have actually out-dumbed yourself.

        It is always fun to see you hit the death spiral of discourse when you quickly respond to posts instead of just quoting some other brain-dead PL drone or fermenting some half-cocked “idea” for a while till you are ready to trot it out. You just get dumber and dumber, and deeper and deeper into dumb.

      • Robin Naismith Green May 3, 2012 / 3:34 pm

        “I didn’t quote it because I didn’t see it.”

        Amazona that explains quite a bit really. Conservatives have for quite some time had a real problem with things we journalists like to call “facts.” You need all of them to assemble a coherent opinion. The facts are these, “Actually, reality will do that job very well. According to Talking Points Memo, Ready was “part of the young Republicans club at his local college and later became a precinct leader with the state Republican Party.” He was also endorsed by Republican state lawmaker Russell Pearce in a run for sheriff.”

        He had been a Republican, gave speeches at TEA Party rallies and actively sought offices as a member of the GOP. Ready was planning to run as a Democrat but had not been endorsed by the County Democratic party and had received no support from them.

        And then there’s this:
        “So Ready wanted to run as a Democrat. And why, you might ask? “He liked the party, he said, not for its current platform but because of its history with racism,” TPM reports. “It was the party, he noted, that brought about Jim Crow laws and harbored Alabama’s segregationist former Gov. George Wallace.”

        So, not today’s Democrats — who Ready no doubt hated with the passion of a thousand burning suns. But let’s not let the facts get in the way of a perfectly good media victim card.”

      • dvindice May 3, 2012 / 6:39 pm

        Hmmm… because some guy called J.T. Ready attended a few Tea Party meetings that makes him a spokes person for the Tea Party?

        So pain, if Jeffery Dahmer ate at a Taco Bell or Burger King does that mean that those places serve “long pig”?

      • Amazona May 4, 2012 / 10:44 am

        Oh, my, Robin—–did you miss your saucer of milk today?

        No, dear, I did not see the quote so beloved by the resident role-players because I, unlike you, am not so obsessed with a local tragedy that I must frantically scrabble through every possible reference to it to find something I can substitute for actual political discourse.

        A loose cannon, a man who had spent his life searching for something, clearly without a compass as his searches led him to such wildly divergent philosophies as the Republican Party, the National Socialist Party, and the Democratic Party, finally killed some people and himself.

        The only story here is that some people as politically unmoored as he was, who have latched onto an illusion of political identity because it allows them indulge in their innate nastiness under the guise of political discourse, have frantically been burrowing through this disturbed man’s history trying to find something, ANYTHING, that they could use to link him to a political movement they don’t even understand, but hate with a seething passion because it is the opposition of the movement that validates their personality disorders and allows them, FINALLY, to feel accepted.

        The story is not about J.T. Ready, or the people he met throughout his search for meaning in his life. He was evidently a man of charm and even charisma, who was able to insinuate himself into the lives and affections of many. So his history is one of being accepted, at least at face value, in many different groups.

        The zealots so desperate to find or create something they can use to distract from the utter and abject failure of the system they support and admire (though fail to understand) are trying to use this ability to assimilate into very different groups of people as indictments of those groups of people. This is clearly and patently absurd, if not insane, yet it is all that such zealots have.

        They posture as political pundits, yet they scrabble around on the surface of political thought, focusing on the trivial, obsessing over personality and scandal even when they have to invent the scandal.

        And, as maggots feed on dead flesh, they feed on lies. They are carrion eaters, ghoulishly and gleefully rolling around on the bodies of the dead, trying to find something in their tragic deaths that will nourish them and that they can use to smear others.

        One thing has come out of the narrative of J.T. Ready, and that is that he developed, as he grew older and his pathology matured, a deep hatred of other races. This drove him away from the Republican Party, which disowned him and rejected him when this started to become evident. He seems to have found a home with the National Socialist Party after he was rejected by the Republicans, and he was strongly attracted, as Robin herself has admitted, to an image of the Democratic Party. To use Robin’s own quote: “He liked the party, he said, not for its current platform but because of its history with racism. It was the party, he noted, that brought about Jim Crow laws and harbored Alabama’s segregationist former Gov. George Wallace.”

        So we have a continuum—-a younger man attracted, for whatever reason, to the Republican Party, and then rejected by it. Attracted to the TEA Party probably (though we can’t really know) because of its stance on strong borders, which he could have thought consistent with his own ideas on immigration. (The TEA party, not really being a party but just a loosely organized group of people can’t kick anyone out.) And being more strongly attracted to the Nazi element, the National Socialist Party, where he evidently found a spiritual home, and to his impression of the Democratic Party.

        You gotta love the drama queen approach of Robin to Ready’s attraction to the Democratic Party (which, like the National Socialists, didn’t appear to reject him at all)—- So, not today’s Democrats — who Ready no doubt hated with the passion of a thousand burning suns.

        HATED WITH THE PASSION OF A THOUSAND BURNING SUNS !!!!!!!!

        You see, this is what happens when hysterics, particularly hysterics so deeply involved in role-playing, whose entire lives are inventions of drama and fantasy, try to express actual ideas.

        But the story is not about the various people with whom Ready came in contact throughout his life, or the various groups he thought would give his life meaning and focus. It is about him.

        This sad, bizarre, yet wholly predictable effort by the fantasyland pretenders of the Pitchfork makes as much sense as blaming Jodie Foster for the attempt to kill President Reagan.

      • tiredoflibbs May 4, 2012 / 12:01 pm

        Ama, I like the way these forkers pretend to be “journalists” and yet they are very selective in what they “report”. They report anything that is negative towards Christianity, Whites, Conservatives, etc. etc.

        …. and claim ignorance on incidents or crimes by non-Christians, blacks (specifically if racially motivated), proggies, etc. etc.

        True journalists are objectionable. The forkers are objectionable – objecting to “reporting” incidents in which their ideology is shown to be the fraud that it is or goes against the pathetic narrative they are trying to create – blacks are still victims of slavery, conservatives are mean and greedy, christians are forcing a theocracy upon us (but islamic theocracy in real practice is non-threatening) etc. etc.

        They are a pathetic bunch and by the lack of participation on their blog shows that they are among the flat earth types.

      • Majordomo Pain May 4, 2012 / 12:07 pm

        We prefer silence to an echo chamber and We allow more freedom to comment than B4V. Over 600,000 readers cannot be wrong.

      • tiredoflibbs May 4, 2012 / 12:47 pm

        Well bubblehead, you have both silence and an echo chamber where all the “journalists” regurgitate the same crap.

        You and your ilk are not reporters you are repeaters.

        600,000 readers? and not even a handful of comments?

        Sure…..

    • neocon1 May 3, 2012 / 1:35 pm

      I remember the 60’s, 70’s 80’s, 90’s, 2000’s when donks rioted, looted, murdered, burned,raped, and pillaged almost every large city in America.

      OWS…..pure amateurs.

      • Majordomo Pain May 3, 2012 / 2:00 pm

        And we all see the 2010s when rural people are destroying their lives by the thousands with methamphetamine. Pot meet kettle.

      • neocon1 May 3, 2012 / 2:22 pm

        majordumbo

        rural people?
        like the dopers Klintoon and Uboma?

  4. Cluster May 3, 2012 / 8:50 am

    Let’s not forget but this is a movement that is fully embraced by Obama, Pelosi, Elizabeth Warren, and the far left media. To them, the OWS crowd is what is right with America. Responsible, tax paying, hard working citizens are what’s wrong with America.

    • Cluster May 3, 2012 / 10:02 am

      Mitch,

      Often times you are misguided, but seldom do you just simply have no point, as you just did in your previous post. What’s the point?

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 10:47 am

        No, Cluster, it’s just mitche and his kind like to redefine words and terms as necessary to further their cause—it’s a Lefty thing, perfected in the Soviet Union, where whole periods of history were rewritten to hide the truth of the Leftist movement.

        Definition of “assembly” : A group of people gathered together in one place for a common purpose:

        Definition of “camping” : Live for a time in a camp, tent, or camper

        The Constitution (now conveniently referenced, though usually dismissed as a dusty and archaic document irrelevant to modern times) guarantees the right of assembly, but not the right of living in a tent or sleeping on the street.

        The OWS thugs and morons (sorry for the redundancy) have a legal right to assemble, and to present their case, whatever the hell it is supposed to be. (As far as I can tell, it can be summed up as “We see a lot of money that is not ours and we want it and by the way we also want to destroy the system that creates it and why should I have to work to get what you work to get you parasite”)

        They are legally allowed to gather, pose, posture, strut, wave their signs, yell, scream, shriek, holler, and do whatever they want to do to make their points, such as they are, but they are not allowed to go outside the boundaries of the law. That is, they are not allowed to destroy or vandalize the property of others, they are not allowed to violate laws regarding camping on the streets, etc.

        No one is trying to restrict their right to say what they want to say. No one is even demanding that what they say make any sense.

        The argument of the OWS poseurs would have to be that setting up shantytowns on city streets and in city parks and sleeping there is an integral part of their message, and that removing this element from their message is an infringement on their rights to spread this message.

        I have yet to see any argument for setting up shantytowns on city streets and in city parks and sleeping there that explains how this is integral to their hostility toward a meritocracy.

      • Cluster May 3, 2012 / 10:54 am

        So Mitch and the left long for the days of Hoovervilles?? Sounds about right. After all they do profess to care about the poor, so more poor people would be a good thing. Obama’s policies are making sure of that.

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 11:23 am

        Actually, mitche might be a prophet, getting us ready for the spectre of hundreds of thousands of people living on the streets in tents, as the Obama economy craters and homelessness skyrockets.

        Now, what else did Barry promise would “skyrocket”? Oh, yeah—the cost of electricity.

  5. mitch May 3, 2012 / 12:15 pm

    Actually I’m doing research for a comedy routeen. My people tell me Jon Stewart is interested. As well as Bill Maher. The general theme is reflexology. Whatever they’re in favor of, we’re against.

    • neocon1 May 3, 2012 / 1:32 pm

      bmitch

      “My people tell me

      you’re people ??? ROTFLMAO……are THEY the forkers? or the voices in your head?

      • Amazona May 3, 2012 / 1:34 pm

        At least mitche is admitting to the core motivation of the PL—wait and see what conservatives are promoting, and then rail against it.

        We’ve always seen the PL trolls as reactive, and now one has the generosity to admit it.

      • neocon1 May 3, 2012 / 1:37 pm

        brain dead zombies have no thoughts of their own, only reactions.

      • neocon1 May 3, 2012 / 1:39 pm

        thus the accurate term USEFUL IDIOTS

      • mitchethekid May 3, 2012 / 8:36 pm

        The people who work for me are m people. (Like in “our liberals”. Sound familiar?) Forkers? I think you should expand your blog horizons. And Ama, when I said reflexively taking a position I was referring to the right.

      • Amazona May 4, 2012 / 10:12 am

        No, mitche, you were describing you and your Leftist fellow travelers. Lacking political ideology, all you (plural ‘you’) do is lurk until a conservative says something and then lurch out in outrage and opposition.

        Just as you reject a government run from the bottom up, based on local and state control and personal responsibility, you reject a personal political position based on a broad foundation of research and political and historical knowledge, opting instead for the brainless knee-jerk pseudo-political commentary we see from you here.

      • Cluster May 4, 2012 / 12:28 pm

        Wow, Amazona, slow down. There were a lot of big words in your post there that Mitch just wont be able to process.

      • Amazona May 4, 2012 / 9:22 pm

        And he claims to have people working for him. And they are “m people”—-I wonder if that is like the hive over at the Fork.

        If anyone wants to see examples of reflexive spasms of oppositional pathology, all he has to do is look at poor major pain’s pathetic little snarls, which never even rise to the level of “I know what you are, what am I?”

      • Amazona May 4, 2012 / 9:23 pm

        Anyone ever take a look at the major pain’s self-description?

        “We, Ourselves, of The Collective, were created by Gota Wasdini on Marheep [ 4 a Alpha Centauri] 105 years ago as the Petrific Artificial Intelligence Network. At creation We were only ~1 000 000 units of character. Today We are a swarm of well over 30 000 trillion components not including several billion Meditators. We exist to serve Sentience and defend against the evils of Theocracy. ”

        And this makes more sense than her posts………..

      • bozo May 6, 2012 / 8:09 am

        Ammo sticks the perfect feedback loop landing! After the “I know what you are but what am I” Republican meme comes to light, she attempts the mobius strip claim that it’s actually Leftist. It’s like the snake eating it’s own tail. Infinite. Beautiful!

        Brava! Well played.

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