Though this might be “What Attacks on Mormonism?, Part 1”, depending on how you look at it – from Warner Todd Huston over at Breitbart:
As the race for the White House heats up, Reuters suddenly realized that the massive Mormon Church has a lot of money in its bank accounts. The news service went on to needle the Church, saying if it were a business “wealthy adherents like Mitt Romney would count as its dominant revenue stream.”
Reuters took the if-it-were-a-business theme even farther in its opening paragraphs.
“It would also likely attract corporate gadflies protesting a lack of transparency. They would call for less spending on real estate and more on charitable causes to improve membership growth — the Mormons’ return on investment.”
Of course, a religion is not a “business” proposition. A religion does not operate like a company does, it has far different goals. But assessing a religion wasn’t Reuters’ goal here. Making Mormons out to be “rich” elitists that act suspiciously and are pushing a snobbish presidential candidate on the nation was Reuters’ goal…
This from the same MSM which essentially went all “Reverend Wright, who?” in 2008. I don’t recall any stories about how Wright’s organization was financed – and that leaves aside anything more than a glance at the fact that Obama attended a racist, anti-American church for 20 years.
One might want to think that there would be only one trip in to the gutter for our Democrats and their lapdog MSM in 2012 – forget it; they’ll troll in every gutter there is. They will attack Romney because he’s rich. They’ll attack him because he’s white. They’ll attack him because he’s Mormon. They’ll attack him as a war monger and they’ll attack him because he had college and missionary deferments during the Vietnam War. They will lie. They will launch whispering campaigns claiming all sorts of horrors about Romney’s past. They will attack his wife. They will attack his children. They will attack his friends. They will try to intimidate people in the right blogosphere who are favorable to Romney. This will be the dirtiest political campaign in human history and the MSM will be right there in the trenches with the DNC, doing what they can to help Obama.
So, just get ready for it – it will get nauseating but the payoff will be the crestfallen looks on MSM faces on November 6th.
Blogs For Victory 
“This will be the dirtiest political campaign in human history and the MSM will be right there in the trenches with the DNC, doing what they can to help Obama.”
I do believe a lot of people have been saying this for some time. Why you hopping on the ship just now? Yes this will probably be the dirtiest campaign in our history. We, as conservatives, should be ready to deal with by now. We have had over three years of watching barky operate and should be able to counter anything he and media allies throw.
More importantly Mitt should be ready to handle it. He is the one who wants to be president. If he cannot convince the American people this country will be better off with him as president, then you repubs picked the wrong guy again.
Biased media? Dishonest donkyrats? Please look up at the sky and tell us what color it is.
LOL
A doctor from Israel says: “In Israel the medicine is so advanced that we cut off a man’s testicles; we put them into another man, and in 6 weeks he is looking for work.”
The German doctor comments: “That’s nothing, in Germany we take part of the brain out of a person; we put it into another person’s head, and in 4 weeks he is looking for work.”
A Russian doctor says: “That’s nothing either. In Russia we take out half of the heart from a person; we put it into another person’s chest, and in 2 weeks he is looking for work.”
The U.S. doctor answers immediately: “That’s nothing my colleagues, you are way behind us….in the USA, about 4 years ago, we grabbed a person from Kenya with no brains, no heart, and no balls….we made him President of the United States, and now……. the whole country is looking for work.
“How is that hope and change working for you?”
Have a nice day!!!
David Axlerod saw early on the Rev Wright could alienate white voters, so he arranged a private meeting with Obama and Wright wherein Obama begged Wright to please be quiet through the election, to which Rev Wright didn’t agree, to his credit. When Wright didn’t remain silent, Obama had no choice but to throw him under the bus and claim the lie that he was unaware of Wrights message – and thus began the lies of Obama, which flow very freely.
People also need to look into how Obama discarded others along the way. People that really helped him rise through the ranks in Chicago politics, only to be ignored when Obama reached the next level. One celebrity in point is Oprah – has anyone heard her campaign for Obama this time around? Oprah stuck her neck out for Obama in 2008, lost viewership, lost ad revenue, and then was discarded after the election.
Obama is a self absorbed egomaniac with zero people skills and/or loyalty. Not a quality that we would ever want in a President.
Simply put by asking these sorts of questions, and forcing the Right to explain away what is kept in shadow, the Democrats will win in November.
What’s in the shadow major? Is it big and scary?
There are many things in the shadows Cluster and these are not trivial things like birth certificates or college transcripts. These are records of taxation for a man who is running on his ability to run a business and return America to prosperity. Those things and many others including what his church does with their money.
“Trivial things” like legal eligibility to hold the office.
“Trivial things” like whether or not he either committed fraud by claiming to be a foreign student for financial gain or actually WAS a foreign student (see first comment)
OR
How much money a candidate made and his tax rate—though there is no reason to suspect chicanery regarding either
What a church does with ITS money
Interesting priorities.
But then someone who has to role play as part of an alien hive being now living in hell has already established some pretty bizarre priorities.
These are trivial things Amazona as they have nothing to do with President Obama’s ability to lead America out of the most serious economic crisis since the 1930s.
The Bubblehead computer: “…ability to lead America out of the most serious economic crisis since the 1930s”
Accept that he hasn’t and doesn’t have the ability or experience to do so. His transcripts would show that whether or not he is capable or has the knowledge to lead us out of the economy, make it worse or be able to weave baskets with little supervision.
As a professional, these are things my employer wishes to know before hiring me or anyone else in my field. An important question to be answered is whether or not the candidate has the know how to do the job.
Experience has shown us obAMATUER cannot. Would it have been nice to find this out before hand?
But do tell us how Romney’s tax records will show us that he has the work experience necessary to do what obAMATUER could not!
In 2008 a lot of otherwise clear thinking people bought into hope and change (I know, I’m related to several of them). I can’t for the life of me imagine anyone who didn’t vote for Obama in 2008 saying this time around, “man, I was wrong back then; I really love what he’s done, and he’s got my vote this time.” So the question will come down to, how many people who decided to give hope and change a chance last time around will go through the old “fool me once, fool me twice” routine? How many recent college graduates who enthusiastically supported The One in 2008, and who have yet to find a meaningful job since then will be anxious to reward BHOzo with another 4 years? How many who wanted to show their open-mindedness and be able to say they voted for the first black President, with the rationalization that he couldn’t possibly be any worse than Bush, are going to make the same mistake again? For that matter, how many in the black community, where unemployment is 50% higher than the national average (500% higher among black youth) are going to vote for more of the same? 83 more days and we’ll get the answers to those questions.
Retired Spook, Can you tell US what McCain would have done differently to lower unemployment in America?
I have no idea, Major — McCain wasn’t elected, and I don’t have a crystal ball. And anyone who tells you they KNOW what he would have done is a liar. I doubt he would have had self-described Communists in his inner circle. I doubt he would have nominated Sotomayor and Kagen to the S.C. Beyond that, my personal belief is that McCain would have continued in a leftward direction, just at a slower pace. I’m not at all unhappy that he wasn’t elected. We can still recover from the damage that Obama has inflicted; we just can’t afford 4 more years of it.
Then what do you see as an economic condition if Obama is reelected? In four years what will the state of the US economy be if Romney does not win?
Then what do you see as an economic condition if Obama is reelected? In four years what will the state of the US economy be if Romney does not win?
I’m sorry, Major, the whole premise of your existence is a juvenile fantasy, and your questions reflect that reality. Just like Pelosi’s statement “we’ll have to pass the bill to see what’s in it”, we’ll have to reelect Obama to see how much more damage he is capable of. He’s already proven that he has no solutions and isn’t capable of dealing with the mess that he’s only managed to make worse. I don’t see how 4 more years is going to change that.
Retired Spook, If you cannot give words to what you feel will be worse about an Obama re-election perhaps you can tell Us why a Romney victory will reenergize the American economy?
Retired Spook, If you cannot give words to what you feel will be worse about an Obama re-election perhaps you can tell Us why a Romney victory will reenergize the American economy?
Major, if you can tell us in a sincere and believable way why you care, I might consider your request.
Retired Spook, We, Ourselves are deeply sincere in this concern because it is Our goal to assure that American voters are well informed and vote on the issues and best solutions to the problems that face Americans vice culture war issues that will not be solved by electing a President.
Major,
I thought Spook was very diplomatic and sincere in his responses to you, and then you continue with your childishness by beginning your response with “We ourselves”. It is such a poor reflection on you and makes it impossible to take you seriously.
Unless and until you can drop the immature persona, there is really nothing to speak with you about.
Since The Collective has no other means by which to refer to Ourselves, We will allow the line of questioning to be taken up by an individual later today.
Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!
Retired:
First off it is a simple pair of questions. What would the economy look like if Obama is elected and what would Romney do to reenergize the US economy? Pretty basic stuff, no?
Oh boy, major you are piece of work, but since you insist, I will chime in on this issue, and Spook may as well later.
Under Obama, we can expect the economy to continue to sputter under the weight of Obamacare, ever increasing regulations, and deficit spending. Because of that, we can expect double digit unemployment for the foreseeable future, stagnate wages, high gas, energy and food prices, higher taxes, and investments going over seas.
Under Romney, we can expect a repeal of Obamacare which will lift the burden from employers and will negate the increase in Cap Gains taxes, which will help repatriate a trillion dollars of off shore money, we can expect an undoing of duplicitous and mal intended regulations, a lower tax burden for not only individuals but business’s as well, a concerted effort to reign in government spending and balance the budget, all of which will help bring certainty to an ever increasing uncertain business environment, which will result in business’s expanding and employing allowing individuals to receive paychecks instead of food stamps, and restore their dignity and faith in the American dream.
Pretty basic stuff, no?
No! If it were “pretty basic”, Obama would have been successful in turning things around by now instead of making things worse.
Major,
While we can’t know for certain – Spook is right about that – we can presume that McCain would have done at least some of the things that Obama did…with the difference being that stimulus money wouldn’t have been doled out merely on the basis of political cronyism. We would have actually got something useful for it – and with probably not half the cost it actually ran.
Still, and all, given that the nature of the problem would not have been addressed, we can presume that a President’s McCain’s economic policies would also have failed to revive the economy…and right now you’d have Hillary as your nominee and you would be decrying high debt, large deficits and laggard growth.
hey
mark
good to see you back at it regularly
wondering though
you guys all disliked romney in the runup
and now you love him
whats up with that change of heart anyway?
And bagni, I have also grown tired of your immature persona. If you want to have an adult conversation, drop the persona and ask a genuine question – we will answer sincerely.
Bagni,
I never disliked Romney – he just wasn’t my favored candidate. Going down the list, I think Romney was my 6th choice or so. But that is what a primary is for – to find out who is going to get the nomination. My main guy – Santorum – didn’t make it (though he came within an ace of upsetting Romney); too bad, so sad…but all along the whole point of the exercise is to get rid of Obama. Romney may succeed or fail, but Obama has already failed and the only thing re-electing him will do is make failure much, much worse.
I would like to hear some liberal gives us their thoughts on this bit of news:
For the first time since he began running for president, Republican Mitt Romney has the support of over 40 percent of America’s youth vote, a troubling sign for President Obama who built his 2008 victory with the overwhelming support of younger, idealistic voters.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/a-romney-first-over-40-of-youth-vote-back-him/article/2504893#.UCvARqDYGX-
Cluster when he gets another 20% I’m sure the Obama campaign will be concerned. In an effort to inform voters we’re staying away from polls this far out.
Obama might be worried if the premise that he built his 2008 victory on the support of the youth vote was true. The youth backbone was a media invention and Obama built his victory on the support of Wall Street.
When you find good evidence that Obama isn’t going to be picking up millions from the Too Big to Fail crowd just let us know.
So we get years of you idiots whining about Obama’s church, but we can never ever question Rmoney’s. We have to see all or Obama’s past, but asking Rmoney about his is off limits. Conservatives – whiney and inconsistent, we have it all!
Conservatives questioned the message that Rev Wright delivered every Sunday – one of racism, division, and hate. You are free to question the message of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints all you want, but what they do with their own money is not yours to question.
Liberals – ignorant and divisive, we have it all.
Cluster I may dis agree with you but I’m not ignorant. My main goal is to make sure that everyone is as well informed as possible. that means offering information from all sides of the political spectrum not just the one that makes my side appear the brightest and shiniest.
Liberals – ignorant, marxist, atheistic, racist, liars, perverts and divisive, they have it all.
that means offering information from all sides of the political spectrum not just the one that makes my side appear the brightest and shiniest.
ROTFLOL!! On what planet is there information that makes your side appear the brightest and shiniest, Diane?
Here’s a non partisan assessment of the US economy over the next ten years from the CBO:
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In CBO’s forecast, the unemployment rate remains above 8 percent both this year and next, a consequence of continued weakness in demand for goods and services. As economic growth picks up after 2013, the unemployment rate will gradually decline to around 7 percent by the end of 2015, before dropping to near 5½ percent by the end of 2017.
While the economy continues to recover during the next few years, inflation and interest rates will remain low. In CBO’s forecast, the price index for personal consumption expenditures increases by just 1.2 percent in 2012 and 1.3 percent in 2013, and rates on 10-year Treasury notes average 2.3 percent in 2012 and 2.5 percent in 2013. As the economy’s output approaches its potential later in the decade, inflation and interest rates will rise to more normal levels.
Many developments could produce economic outcomes that differ from CBO’s forecast. For example:
The forces that have restrained the economy’s recovery could fade more rapidly than anticipated.
A significant worsening of the banking and fiscal problems in Europe could spill over to U.S. financial markets and greatly weaken the economy here.
Changes in fiscal policy that diverge from those in CBO’s baseline could affect economic growth.
CBO’s alternative fiscal scenario represents one possible set of changes in fiscal policy. Under that scenario, real GDP would be noticeably higher in the next few years than it is in CBO’s baseline economic forecast: CBO estimates that, with such changes in policy, real GDP in the fourth quarter of 2013 would be between 0.5 percent and 3.7 percent greater than in the baseline forecast, and that the unemployment rate would be between 0.3 and 1.8 percentage points lower. But, over time, the resulting larger deficits would reduce private investment in productive capital and result in real GDP that would fall increasingly below the level in CBO’s baseline projections.”
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http://live.wsj.com/video/opinion-obama-debt-bomb/723C13C0-750B-4A78-80B2-FBD02B4F9450.html#!723C13C0-750B-4A78-80B2-FBD02B4F9450
And we all know how accurate the CBO has been; as an example here’s their prophetic forecast in January 2009. “Under the assumptions that CBO uses for its baseline, the budget deficit would fall to about $700 billion in 2010. Revenues would increase by $176 billion that year, rebounding from declines in the previous two years. Outlays would be substantially lower than in 2009, largely because of the projected drop in outlays recorded for the TARP and for the subsidy costs related to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac; with those two factors excluded, outlays would grow by 2.8 percent in 2010.
At 4.9 percent of GDP, the deficit in 2010 would be significantly lower than the one for this year but about twice as high as the average deficit over the past 40 years. Under current laws and policies, CBO projects, the deficit would fall to 3.3 percent of GDP in 2011, when certain tax provisions originally enacted in 2001 and 2003 are scheduled to expire, and to 1.6 percent in 2012, when the full effect of those expirations on revenues occurs. The decline in the deficit would be greater in those years but for the likelihood that interest rates will rise in conjunction with economic recovery, thereby boosting interest
payments. Over the following few years, the deficits projected in CBO’s baseline decline slightly from the level in 2012; by 2019, under the assumptions used for the baseline, the deficit would represent about 1.1 percent of GDP.”
Forkers??
DECLARE ***WAR*** ???
LGBT COALITION DECLARES WAR ON RYAN (and Romney)
WND |
telling one hack NEVER was to drop the other hack loon….
REPORT: 22 days to drop Biden…
PALIN: Drop Joe, Pick Hillary…???? REALLY??
Giuliani Wonders Whether VP Has ‘Mental Capacity’ for Presidency…
There is something very suspect if Obama if he doesn’t replace the mentally deficient Biden. “Plugs” is one disturbed individual.
count
I think it is time for America to drop BOTH HACKS and the pant suited hag.
‘Jim Crow Has Been Resurrected’: State Sen. Nina Turner Says Republicans Are Suppressing Voters in Ohio
“They might as well bring back literacy tests and the poll tax if they are going to keep this up in the state of Ohio.”
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NINA with idiots like you maybe they had the right idea.
Morons with 15 IQ’s shouldn’t vote let alone be elected to office…..
Neocon, You make Our point. How does this juvenile name calling serve any positive purpose?
No, the question is when has this juvenile role playing served any purpose? (other than demonstrating “their” inability to face reality)
neo,
How sad are these people when Hillary appears to be the sane one?
And how sad are these dead-enders that they still think this corrupt regime is going to continue after November?
majordumbo painintheazz
ignore the insanity of the lunatic racist and her rant ….condemn the messenger….LOL
alinsky 101
Stay-at-home nonvoters are more likely to support President Barack Obama than Mitt Romney, according to a new USA Today/Suffolk University poll out today.”
Well, he has the Slacker Vote tied up, now if he can just secure the “Make Believe Demon” vote he’s a shoo-in for Queen of the Forkers.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/08/03/AP-Shades-Voter-ID-Story
AP Makes Bogus Charge of Voter Disenfranchisement
by Hans von Spakovsky 3 Aug 2012 69
“Legitimate Voters Blocked by Photo ID Laws” read the headline of a July 10 Associated Press article. Sounds pretty damning. It turns out, though, that the article lacked key information about two Indiana voters that might have changed the whole tenor of the story. The reporter, Mike Baker, failed to reveal that the voters in question actually have photo IDs and have used them in previous elections.
Baker started off with what seemed like a frustrating story about two elderly Indiana voters approaching 90 years old, Edward and Mary Weidenbener, who were unable to vote in Indiana’s May primary. Why? Supposedly because “they didn’t realize that state law required them to bring government photo IDs such as a driver’s license or passport.”
This assertion was not true at all, it was later determined.
According to the AP, the Weidenbeners had to use a temporary ballot that would be verified later, which they failed to do. Edward Weidenbener, a World War II veteran, was quoted as saying that he was surprised by the rules and consequences, and because “a lot of people don’t have a photo ID, they’ll be automatically disenfranchised.”
There are some glaring problems with Baker’s story. First of all, Indiana’s law has been in place since 2006. There have been numerous federal, state and local elections in the state since then. How could the Weidenbeners not know about the voter ID requirement? Had they voted in prior elections? Did Baker ask them these basic questions? And when voters are given provisional ballots because they showed up at the polling place without an ID, they are specifically informed that they have 10 days to provide election officials with an ID so that their vote will be counted.
The Office of the Indiana Secretary of State was extremely concerned about the story. So General Counsel Jerold Bonnet did some checking of state records and even called the Weidenbeners to talk to them.
It turned out that the AP had left out significant information. Baker, for example, never said a word about whether or not these elderly voters had photo IDs. Since he makes no mention of that issue, anyone reading the story is left with the impression that they do not. It turns out that not only do the Weidenbeners both have valid Indiana driver’s licenses, but they also have passports, according to the Office of the Indiana Secretary of State.
Either of those IDs is acceptable under Indiana’s law. Contrary to the AP story, they told the Office of the Secretary of State that they were well aware of the voter ID requirement and had voted in prior elections in Indiana, since the voter ID became effective after showing their photo IDs at their polling place.
Although the Weidenbeners apparently forgot to bring their IDs to their polling place for the May primary, they live in a retirement community with an assisted living center, a communal dining and activity facility, and a number of detached houses for independent living. Their polling place is located within the assisted living center, adjacent to the dining room. It is so close to where they live that the Weidenbeners usually walk over to the dining room for meals. Thus, it would have been easy for them to have returned to their home to get their IDs, then gone back to their poll to vote an actual ballot. This is all information the AP could have easily found out.
Instead, however, the Wedienbeners cast a provisional ballot. Their home is only 2.24 miles from the county courthouse where they could have gone after the election to show their photo IDs so that their provisional ballots would have counted. And transportation would not have been a problem; they could get there via their own car, a city bus, or a community shuttle bus. But the Weidenbeners claim they weren’t told that they needed to show an ID to officials after the election in order for their provisional ballot to be counted.
But the Indiana state form that is given to all provisional voters specifically informs them that they must appear before county election officials no later than noon on the second Friday after election day either with an ID or to sign an affidavit that they are exempt from the ID requirement because they are “indigent and unable to obtain proof of identification without the payment of a fee, or that you have a religious objection to being photographed.” The AP also neglected to mention that since the Weidenbeners are over 65, they could vote by absentee ballot without an ID.”
OK—— enough is enough.
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