Ignoring The Scorpion..At OUR Peril.

Forgetting the Parable of the ScorpionThey pander and walk on egg shells, ever so careful not to affect Muslim “sensibilities” (while trampling roughshod over everyone else’s) and then sit back in wide-eyed, befuddled wonderment as Muslims turn on their benefactors.

The answer, of course, is simple. Those who follow the Koran, who choose to live in the 14th century, and who perform mayhem and murder in its name are evil. Treating them as moral equals (as their doctrine moral relativism dictates) doesn’t work, because they are NOT moral equals.

But as long as these liberal loons are in power- as long as they continue to think that these attavistic freaks will all of a sudden sing kumbaya if only we can convey our good intentions, expect to get stung again.

And again.

And again.

67 thoughts on “Ignoring The Scorpion..At OUR Peril.

  1. tiredoflibbs September 13, 2012 / 9:29 pm

    Could the deaths have been prevented?

    In short, yes.

    “According to senior diplomatic sources, the US State Department had credible information 48 hours before mobs charged the consulate in Benghazi, and the embassy in Cairo, that American missions may be targeted, but no warnings were given for diplomats to go on high alert and “lockdown”, under which movement is severely restricted.”


    Who dropped the ball? Of course, the blame goes to the top. Here is another accomplishment, velma.

    But don’t expect the obAMATEUR to take any blame. He has always taken credit where it was undeserved and placed blame where it was unwarranted.

    …. and don’t expect the mindless drones to place blame. They will predictably give obAMATEUR a pass like always.

  2. Mark Edward Noonan September 13, 2012 / 9:50 pm

    It must be kept in mind that to our liberals it still is all our fault. Remember, we can’t even say that our liberals have a fairy tale vision of history – because a fairy tale at least contains a hard center of truth. To people like Obama and Hillary, the trouble all started with the West’s unprovoked attack upon Islam during the Crusades. It is my bet that liberals don’t even know that Egypt was once 99% Christian – and that only centuries of oppression made it in to a Muslim-majority nation (Muslims put all sorts of legal and social disabilities on non-Muslims…if you want to get out from underneath all that, you’re only out is to convert to Islam…and over the centuries, people have done just that). Liberals also believe that Muslims were tolerant where Christians were oppressive – not realizing that Muslim “tolerance” was “you can be our slaves, or convert to our religion, or we’ll kill you”.

    But so our liberals believe – we can see it in their reactions. Fury over Romney’s statement. Attempts to find and punish the extremely obscure maker of an even more obscure film. What the Muslims have done doesn’t compute – liberals immediately have to place all events in to their Alternate Universe…

    • Retired Spook September 13, 2012 / 10:08 pm

      What the Muslims have done doesn’t compute – liberals immediately have to place all events in to their Alternate Universe…

      I thought the video of Muslims beheading Daniel Pearl was offensive, but neither I nor any other American or group of Americans went on a burning and killing spree in response to it.

      • Jeremiah September 13, 2012 / 11:22 pm

        If they keep going and we don’t retaliate in a major way, they’re going to take over the world. IMHO

      • Mark Edward Noonan September 13, 2012 / 11:35 pm


        What further doesn’t compute with them is that we, on our side, don’t even like it when they are butchering their own. I’ve been accused of wanting to revive the Crusades. If that is the only way to stop these murdering brutes then, yes, that is precisely what I want. Because I want the killing to stop.

    • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 8:27 am

      We, Ourselves, of the Collective, understand this passage of the Qu’ran fully. It is an admonition to protect the religion and the culture of Islam from all those who would desecrate it with their lives. What you put forth as evil, those who would do violence in the name of Islam are misguided zealots, but once again the Prophet, peace be unto him, instructs that the Faithful must not ever let any slight against the Faith go unpunished. You say, “Treating them as moral equals (as their doctrine moral relativism dictates) doesn’t work, because they are NOT moral equals.” In this you are terribly wrong and near sighted. This is a belief that cannot be justified without more violence and this is neither the true path of your religion, Islam or Our own Faith.


      • Cluster September 14, 2012 / 8:51 am

        …..instructs that the Faithful must not ever let any slight against the Faith go unpunished

        This is further proof that Islam is really not a religion after all, and is more cult like than anything else. A cult comprised of uneducated, uncivil, and violent thugs who oppress their women because of their insecurities, who attack infidels because of their ignorance and fear, and who are hell bent on destroying their own civilization because of their self loathing.

        The question civilized people need to ask themselves, is why do we put up with these cowards?

      • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 8:52 am

        And by this belief Cluster what solutions can you offer Us and to the wider world on which you live, to this “Muslim Problem?”

      • Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 9:27 am

        I don’t know who’s deleting Majordomo Pain’s comments, but please stop, and if possible, put them back. We NEED to see his comments and hold up those comments so as to educate ourselves as to the mindset of the scorpion with which we are dealing.

        This poster has a history of racism and religious bigotry. When his/her posts can be read by us, so we can tell if they also reflect this unacceptable content, they can be evaluated on their own merits. The poster also appears to be claiming to be Muslim, which has never before been a point made and is highly suspicious, and inflammatory remarks by one pretending to be Muslim can feed into religious bigotry. However, the posts will be restored with the Arabic segments deleted, with the warning that further racial or religious bigotry will result in further deletions. //Moderator

      • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 9:33 am

        Mr Pusateri We, Ourselves, appreciate this because this is a debate that must be had and carried out without censorship.

      • Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 9:49 am


        Christianity teaches forgiveness for transgressions. By your own admission, and has been borne out ad nauseum by your Islamist brethren, Islam teaches vengeance and retribution.

        I am an infidel. An unbeliever. I don’t believe that Mohammed is a prophet of God almighty. There is a passage in the bible: “By their fruits shall ye know them.” It is a guide I’ve used all my life to judge others mot by what they say, but by what they do. What has transpired in Egypt and Libya- what has transpired on 9/11, and what had transpired thousands of thousands of bloody, godless times since 9/11/2001 in the name of the Qur’an tells me all I need to know about Islam and its adherents.

        Now, given that, according to your ‘religion of peace’ do I deserve the same fate as Daniel Pearl? The same fate as the two children who were beheaded in Afghanistan the other day?

        You say the violence was ‘incited’.

        News flash: Nobody held a gun to their heads and forced them to fire RPGs. Nobody put a gun to their heads to force them to rape and murder a US ambassador. They could have ignored the damned video, and went about their business, but they CHOSE instead to commit atrocities and acts of violence. How they acted was THEIR choice. I don’t give a damn what kind of movie was seen or was reportedly seen by someone who told their imam about it.

        It is the PERPETRATORS of that violence who are responsible for their OWN depraved behavior, not some guy who made a video.

      • Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 11:28 am

        Neocon- I guess we were dealing with an idiot impostor, and not with an Islamist. Pretty damned difficult to tell the difference between the two, though, isn’t it?

      • tiredoflibbs September 14, 2012 / 9:51 am

        The forkers are well known for screeching against the non-existent attempt of creating a theocracy in the U.S., but are predictable silent at the actual murderous theocracies of those Islamic nations.

        By his latest post it appears since the Koran says to punish those that insult the faith the Forker is giving them a pass. But in the same Breath, the forkers accuse the faithful here of wanting a return to the Crusades, the Inquisition and other such nonsense.

        This has been posted several times on their “blog”.

      • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 10:07 am

        Mr Pusateri, We, Ourselves, are not Muslim, but like all other Terran religions Islam can be corrupted by those seeking to control society to their own ends. This has happened in Christianity as well over the centuries of Human history. We take to task anyone who commits violence against their brother whether or not their brother is of their religion, race or creed. Violence is a singular thing to be abhorred always. The greater crime here is not the violence perpetrated by those who feel it is their only safe harbor, but the idea that all of any group are evil, by their nature, by the violent actions of a few. But even this deserves greater examination. What options do those common folk, in nations where poverty is systemic and oppression endemic, because of the need for the West to remain prosperous at the expense of all others, have beyond violence? Who is the strong voice for them other than groups that have corrupted the values of Islam? We, Ourselves, of the Collective choose to write in Arabic such that all thinking people can read Our words and gain understanding in regard to these matters. The Meditators would hope you would allow this translation to stand with Our word that there is no variation in meaning from Arabic to English and vice versa.

      • Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 10:25 am

        If it were a few isolated incidents, I would agee that there are just a few bad apples. But there have been over 25,000 documented violent, hateful attacks perpetrated in the name of the Qur’an; not only on infidels, but even on other Muslims, simply because they don’t believe in the ‘correct’ brand of Islam.

        Yes, there have been some violent times in the history of Christianity, but Christian adherents wised up and grew up. Wake up and join the 21st century already.

        You give the issue of inequity of resources as a reason for violence. From what I understand, Osama bin Laden was a wealthy man from a wealthy family. The oil operations have been largely nationalized in middle east countries. Perhaps the reason for inequitable wealth redistribution is not the lack of resources but rather a lack of free enterprise.

        Still, your citing of hoarding of wealth by the West as an excuse for violence doesn’t hold water.

      • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 10:37 am


        Mr Pusateri you write as if Christianity is without sinners and those who speak with piety but act with evil intent. No culture or religion is a monolith. Out of fear of censorship We will not detail any of the crimes of Christianity because even with the attempt to be blind to them they are seen and known by the Creator of All Things. We, Ourselves believe that these attacks numerous and abhorrent as they are have been carried out by those who would corrupt the Faith and have taken the darkest path, one which leads to Hell, and they are not those who carried The Prophet’s [qcpn!] message in their hearts. Some would say this is a fallacious argument, The Collective in the past has referred to this as a “No true Scotsman defense.” But here it applies as a de facto argument because of the ease at which poverty and centuries of oppression can evolve into violence as the only expression of power and when mixed with a religion that is culturally and socially taken far more seriously than in the West one can see a linear logic from being incited by such things as this deplorable film.

      • Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 10:47 am

        When I hear about wandering hoardes of Lutheran church ladies blowing up crowded mosques or Baptist churches; when I hear Catholic priests screaming from the pulpit, “Death to all infidels” then we’ll talk about moral relativism.

        Until then, I’m not buying it.

      • Retired Spook September 14, 2012 / 11:28 am

        We, Ourselves, of The Collective can point to the Oklahoma City Federal Building bombing as an example of this. How come there isn’t the same animus against those misguided souls and the people who to this day still believe their cause is just?

        McVeigh was executed. You can’t get a much higher level of “animus” than that. And, if there are still a significant number of Americans who believe McVeigh’s cause was just, they’ve been pretty silent lately.

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:06 pm

        they’ve been pretty silent lately yup

        KKKlinton = snipers against women and children, Ruby Ridge.
        tanks, storm troopers, helicopters and the murder of 85 women and children, Waco
        storm troopers invading a private residence to kidnap a small boy and send him back to a communist dictatorship, Ilian Gonzales.

        RESULT = payback time Oklahoma city………
        It is called blowback to an out of control government.

        I do not condone what was done, yet it did make the KKKlintoon regime and the sodomite AG back it off many notches.

    • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 9:12 am

      But how quickly you forget Mr Noonan that your own nation was built by the blood, sweat tears and death of slaves. and this no one can dispute. It is historic myopia of this nature that incites violence in the Muslim world and causes men like those who made the blasphemous film about the Prophet to seek to incite violence so they can point and shout, “See these people who have no value on the lives of those who are unlike us!”

      • Cluster September 14, 2012 / 9:58 am

        But how quickly you forget Mr Noonan that your own nation was built by the blood, sweat tears and death of slaves

        No it wasn’t. Not even close. The Emancipation Proclamation of 1863, and the Civil War ended the abhorrent practice of slavery. At that time in our nations history, we weren’t even close to being a fully developed industrialized society.

        And if you were a good Muslim woman, you would put your Habib back on, and STFU. Muslim women are not to be heard from.


      • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 10:25 am

        Cluster you are wrong in this view of females in the Muslim Faith. The Quran clearly states in Surah al Nisa’ 4:19: “O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them – except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and Allah will bring about through it a great deal of good.”

        The Quran goes further in Surah al Baqarah 2:228: “And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women.”

      • Cluster September 14, 2012 / 10:31 am

        Your, yourself, need to put the Habib back on and STFU. You are nothing more than a second class citizen in a third world country.

      • Alpha Centauri Historian September 14, 2012 / 10:33 am

        Some background on the Majordomo P.A.I.N.:

        Marheep is actually still a slave colony, with a ruling elite supported by a badly abused and terrorized sub-culture, referred to locally by the slur “marsheets” meaning excrement of Marheep. These unfortunates serve the Mediators and live and die at their whims, making Marheep a pariah colony of Alpha Centauri and the shame of the galaxy. Ritual torture and forced participation in lethal games, roughly analogous to the entertainments of the old Earth Roman Empire set Marheep apart from the civilized universe.

        Marheep has a system by which marsheets, through a system of voluntary sacrifice of all semblance of dignity, can become part of the Petrific Artificial Intelligence Network, but few of the marsheet are willing to undergo such a demeaning process, requiring as it does a subjugation of all personal identity to a writhing mass identity of significantly lower quality and the willingness to lower oneself to a level where one must always refer to itself as part of the whole.

        While being better fed and allowed certain sexual diversions which are deviant even on their own planet, the P.A.I.N.s are sent out into the galaxy to constantly humiliate themselves by engaging in public displays of personally demeaning behavior, as part of their duty to entertain their masters. While less lethal than the games, this ritual humiliation provides great amusement to the upper classes back on Marheep, which is by the way known in that part of the galaxy as S***heap. Here, this ritual humiliation includes exposing themselves to ridicule by making bizarre and utterly stupid comments in public forums.

      • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 10:55 am

        Cluster, The Meditators mean no disrespect, but the term you seek in your tongue is hijab, not habib. In the holiest places of my Faith, We, Ourselves do wear a veil out of respect such that Our Soul can be fed Peace. it is not a requirement for all females to do so in public. The word habib literally translates from Arabic to mean beloved for a male. In its feminine form, habibti, the word means sweetheart. Why would you choose to insult and silence debate? Isn’t the nature of democracy to encourage free discourse and free speech? Who that is a believer in the democratic process and freedom would wish to restrict civil discourse?

      • Amazona September 14, 2012 / 11:02 am

        Alpha Centauri Historian, thank you for the context you have provided for the nest of marheeps evidently present on our planet. It explains a lot.

        I am particularly intrigued by the fact that even on Alpha Centauri there is awareness that on Earth, we do not suffer fools gladly. While our disdain for the major pain has not been intended to provide entertainment for those who enjoy the humiliation of others, it is interesting to know that it has some benefit.

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 11:10 am

        so several thousand Negroes picking cotton in the rural south built our country?

        GET REAL you idiot, who do you think dug the Erie barge canal built the railroads, factories, city’s etc?
        I will tell you who DIDNT, and that was african tribesmen.

      • Amazona September 14, 2012 / 12:30 pm

        As usual, the major pain is grasping at a perceived opportunity to explain her fantasy of intellectual superiority, and as usual she fails, succeeding only in playing the fool.

        I see no dignity in what is represented to us as Islam. None. I see what I call the Monkey Dance of Joy celebrating any perceived defeat of the U.S., with brainless idiots bouncing up and down like demented windup toys, looking anything BUT dignified or intelligent. I see primitive people who cannot grasp anything more advanced than mindless violence as the motivation for or solution to anything. I see many degrees and levels of sexual deviance, from the oppression of women to the homosexual compulsions of the men—ask any returning American male soldier how he was pursued by Iraqi men.

        I see a murderous cult with pretensions of culture and decency, but with those pretensions easily outstripped by its primitive and mindless pursuit of violence and oppression.

        True, not every single Muslim is a primitive savage celebrating the pain inflicted on innocents who happen to not be Muslim. But there is something in this religion that attracts them, over and above any other religion, and it has to be the sense of righteous domination of others. There is absolutely nothing related just to salvation that makes Islam better than any other religion, and in fact in Islam salvation often depends on the subjugation if not destruction of non-Muslims.

        Yes, there is a lot of mouthing of platitudes about peace and love, yet when pressed not one Muslim I ever saw interviewed was willing to admit that Israel has a right to exist, or that the violence of what we call “radical Islam” was completely indefensible.

        Go to the interview with David Horowitz, in which he is heckled by a soft-spoken young woman who is representing “moderate” Islam. He asked her the same question he asks every time he encounters this, which is at every college speech he gives—-(paraphrase) ‘Do you agree or disagree with the statement that all Jews should return to Israel so it will not be necessary to hunt them down all over the world to kill them?’ There was a long pause and then she very quietly said “agree”.

        Every single time anyone starts to mouth platitudes of love, peace, tolerance, etc. about Islam we should go to that interview.

        Hive Lady can wallow in the opportunity Leo insisted on giving her to pontificate with great verbosity and an assumed intellectual and spiritual high ground, but it is all garbage, and nothing more than another attempt to find our civilization, and our religions, inferior.

  3. bardolf September 13, 2012 / 11:50 pm

    “The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That’s not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace.” George Bush

    • Mark Edward Noonan September 14, 2012 / 12:42 am

      That was President Bush’s greatest mistake – not that he should have declared war against Islam, but it was foolish to try and make allies among Muslims until after they were utterly crushed by our military might.

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:09 pm

        They (mooslems) have declared war, we just dont have the ba!!s to finish it.
        A few mushroom clouds over mecca would send a clear message.

  4. Cluster September 14, 2012 / 8:10 am

    To barstool and all other liberals:

    George Bush does not speak for, nor does he represent all conservatives. I am tired of seeing his name, quotes, opinions and policies brought up on every thread as some over arching example of the conservative position. I like Bush a lot as a man, I find him honorable and exemplary, but I did have differences with him in terms of politics. He is also retired, so please, let him go.

    In regards to the thread – we have always been told to be mindful of, and lectured to about the “moderate” Muslim and how it is unfair to label those moderates because of the actions of the few jihadists. Well, the “moderates” sure have been silent for a long time haven’t they? If the “moderates” represent the majority, then why does it always befall on Americans to combat the jihadists? Why don’t we ever hear overwhelming condemnation from the “moderates”?

    My opinion is that the “moderates” are not all that moderate, and are quite happy to have the jihadists do their dirty work for them. Work of which they approve of, and stand behind. This tit for tat, small ball deadly game that we are playing with Islam will only continue to result in needless and senseless death, and will never end. This game of understanding and apology is misguided and pointless. We don’t need to be their friends, and we shouldn’t pretend that we do. What we need to do is raise the bar and the stakes.

    We need to remove all American presence from the ME, and let them know in very clear and unambiguous terms, that if they choose peace, there will be peace. If they choose conflict, they will be subject to the most horrific atom bomb attack in the history of the world. Period.

  5. Cluster September 14, 2012 / 8:21 am

    It also needs to be known that our former pot smoking President is holding our nations security hostage to his misguided domestic policies. We are currently facing the possibility of another half a billion dollar cut to our military, because our President will not lead and will not compromise, choosing instead to campaign and fund raise with Jay Z and Beyonce.

    He is, without question, the worse President this country has ever had.

  6. Cluster September 14, 2012 / 10:05 am

    Off Topic – but worth noting:

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows Mitt Romney attracting support from 48% of voters nationwide, while President Obama earns 45% of the vote. Two percent (2%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided.

  7. sue September 14, 2012 / 10:19 am

    Is anyone else having a really horrible sense of deja vue? I have seen this kind of thing played out before. There is only two differences I see at this point. In 1979 only one leader of a middle east country was kicked out and as of yet there have been no U.S. hostages taken.
    History is being repeated because we have failed to learn from it. When you appease those who wish to take over the world they only take over faster and stopping them is harder. Sometimes diplomacy is not the answer. It wasn’t the answer to Hitler and it’s not the answer here. There is a reason that the hostages taken in the 70″s were released right after Reagon was elected. They knew exactly what he was going to do and it wasn’t talk to them, bow to them or apologize for America. He was going to go in and kick their butts.People who are willing to blow themselves up cannot be reasoned with. They only understand force. .
    What is the answer? The United States needs to become completely energy independent. After that the middle eastern countries can do whatever they want to each other. However, we will help protect Israel and any other country they try to invade with the full force of power. That’s the only answer to a group who’s stated goals are to destroy Israel and the United States. It’s time we started taking them at their word and respond accordingly.

    • Retired Spook September 14, 2012 / 11:19 am

      What is the answer? The United States needs to become completely energy independent. After that the middle eastern countries can do whatever they want to each other.

      Sue, that may be a little overly simplistic, but not much. And each escalation of violence by jihadists must be met with a disproportionately violent response. The jihad aspect of Islam is simply not compatible with modern civilization.

      My opinion is that the “moderates” are not all that moderate, and are quite happy to have the jihadists do their dirty work for them. Work of which they approve of, and stand behind.

      Cluster, there was actually a study done a few years back that divided Islam into, IIRC, 3 groups: those who engaged in violent jihad, those who openly supported violent jihad, and everyone else. The study was largely about the third group and what circumstances would be required for them to openly join either of the first two groups. Turns out that the term moderate Muslim is a myth.

      The so-called peaceful Muslims would not hesitate to implement Jyzia tax on Christians and Jews, and slit the throats of Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, ex-Muslims, atheists and agnostics in accordance with Sharia law. Deep down, every “believer” is potentially the judge and executioner of every “nonbeliever”. After all, both the terrorists and the peaceful Muslims are working for the same cause – to dominate the world in the name of Islam.

      Since the noblest goal of a Muslim is to assist Islam rule the world, these moderate Muslims shamelessly try to deceive the infidels with their twisted logic and pathological lying. They repeat the same lies again and again thinking that it would become true if often repeated. If necessary, they will distort the meaning of Qur’anic verses as per their selfish needs. Imam Ghazali said (Shienbaum & Hasan, 2006, p. 63): “Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying, because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not by telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible”. As Imam Jafar Sadiq (cited Richardson, 2006, p. 170) advised,

      “One, who exposes something from our religion, is like one who intentionally kills us.”

      “You belong to a religion that whosoever conceals it, Allah will honor him and whosoever reveals it, Allah will disgrace and humiliate him.”

      The peaceful and the terrorist Muslims are two sides of the same coin. For a peaceful Muslim, it is very easy to become a terrorist. Hate for non-Muslims is the basic tenet of Islam and violence is the conclusion. As Ayatollah Sadegh Khalkhali, a hard-line Iranian Judge openly declared (Scott, 2002, p. 201): “Those who are against killing have no place in Islam. Our Prophet killed with his own blessed hands. Our Imam Ali killed more than seven hundred on a single day. If the survival of the faith requires the shedding of blood, we are there to perform our duty”.

      • Mark Edward Noonan September 14, 2012 / 12:16 pm

        Islam can only survive in complete stasis – it cannot allow change. People don’t seem to realize just how static Islam was until the modern world forced its way in. For almost all Muslims of 1912 life was precisely as it has been in 912. What civilization they had was just the much-decayed remains of the old Greco-Roman/Christian civilization Islam conquered from the 7th to the 16th centuries. And it wasn’t by accident that change failed to come – it was strenuously resisted from first to last by the religious and political leaders of Islam because they knew full well that any change in the social, political or economic condition of the people would undermine the appeal of Islam fatally. Over the past century, non-Muslim influences finally penetrated – and the reaction has been intense (and largely successful, as seen by the increasing Islamization of once relatively advanced Muslim States as Egypt and Turkey).

        In a certain sense, the Islamists do have a case against us – the importation in to Islam of any non-Islamic values (either our best or or worst) undermines Islam. It cannot survive in free competition with non-Islamic ideas. Islam can only live by lying down and doing nothing, forever. We threaten to rouse them up…and if they are roused then they may convert to Christianity or to unbelief. In either case, the Islamic ruling class will be out of a job. Thus the endless war – thus the endless persecution of not just non-Muslims, but any Muslim who is willing to be just to a non-Muslim (or, indeed, even take his Islamism with a grain of salt).

        I had thought differently – I had thought that you could cobble together Islam with a sense of justice and mercy. it turns out I was wrong – Islam cannot permit justice and mercy. Not real justice, and not real mercy – because they can only be just and merciful as long as it doesn’t interfere with the absolute and deadening power of Islam…and some times justice and mercy requires Islamic sensibilities to be set aside.

        How this will all play out remains to be seen – but the war will go on as long as Islam has power.

    • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 11:19 am


      BINGO….you are 100% on the money

  8. chrissyann September 14, 2012 / 10:45 am

    If I understand what the poster is saying, then by all what is right and holy I should shoot every Muslim I see? You know that old “eye for and eye” thing?

    • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 11:18 am

      might come to that…….

  9. tiredoflibbs September 14, 2012 / 10:56 am

    Forker:”…violence in the Muslim world and causes men like those who made the blasphemous film about the Prophet…”

    So you want to bring back blasphemy laws? Isn’t that part of a theocracy (non-Muslim) that you so abhor?

    • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 11:13 am


      this is the NUTCASE pain from their porno website and how she describes herself……….ROTFLMFAO

      Qu’ul cuda praedex nihil!

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      • Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 11:31 am

        Neocon- I guess we were dealing with an idiot impostor, and not with an Islamist. Pretty damned difficult to tell the difference between the two, though, isn’t it?

      • Majordomo Pain September 14, 2012 / 11:46 am

        The Collective has never hidden its nature.

      • Mark Edward Noonan September 14, 2012 / 12:19 pm


        Why even go there? The thing about hell is that there is actually nothing there – it is an absence, a negation. The soul in hell doesn’t have other souls in hell to be with it…the soul in hell has nothing but itself, and that is nearly nothing and of what there is, the entirely is taken up in self loathing, hatred and fear.

        Don’t go near a place like that.

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 1:36 pm


        sometimes you have to peek behind the curtain to see the evil that lives there and expose it for what it is.
        Other than that I totally agree with you.

    • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 11:18 am

      The left hates Israel and Jews, that is why they have formed an unholy alliance with islam to stamp out Christianity, and Judaism They think when they win the marxist utopia they will simply cast off islam and everything will be fine……they are foolishly mistaken it is they who will be put to the sword by the murderous islamists.


      • Retired Spook September 14, 2012 / 11:37 am

        The left hates Israel and Jews, that is why they have formed an unholy alliance with islam to stamp out Christianity, and Judaism

        Which makes the fact that the majority of American Jews are Leftists somewhat of an enigma.

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:15 pm


        Which makes the fact that the majority of American Jews are Leftists somewhat of an enigma.

        I have always been puzzled by this my self, it is almost a collective death wish really strange.

  10. Cluster September 14, 2012 / 11:18 am

    Isn’t the nature of democracy to encourage free discourse and free speech? Who that is a believer in the democratic process and freedom would wish to restrict civil discourse? – majorpain

    I don’t know why I continue to engage with such intellectual inferiors, and just completely stupid people who think they belong to some collective, so this will hopefully the last time I fall into this trap.


    You subscribe to a belief that is anything but democratic, supportive of free speech, and/or civil, so I hardly feel any compulsion to engage in any form of debate with someone like you. Capiche?

  11. Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 11:37 am

    Now that Pain has proven herself to be just another commie reprobate poseur instead of an Islamic reprobate, I take back what I said about deleting her post. Feel free to delete away.

    I told you so. //Moderator

    • Retired Spook September 14, 2012 / 11:40 am

      Feel free to delete away.

      Why? The best strategy, when your adversaries are engaged in self-immolation, is to hide the fire extinguishers and get the hell out of the way.

      • Leo Pusateri September 14, 2012 / 11:44 am

        Point taken, Spook-

      • Cluster September 14, 2012 / 12:02 pm

        That’s the best line yet.

    • chrissyann September 14, 2012 / 11:41 am

      Imposters are liars. They had great teachers..terrorists.

    • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:12 pm



      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:16 pm

        BUILD the DAMN FENCE NOW,,,Ochimpy


      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:19 pm

        Samuel L. Jackson will film a provocative spot supporting President Obama’s re-election bid as early as tomorrow — telling voters to “Wake the f–k up, Vote for Obama.”

        It’s paid for by the Jewish Council for Education and Research Super PAC — which earlier this summer aired an ad of comedian Sarah Silverman offering “free lesbian sex” to billionaire Sheldon Adelson if he stopped supporting GOP nominee Mitt Romney.

        Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/samuel_prez_ad_wake_the_up_7S8Md502aEI2OLeLmh8r8L#ixzz26SgVWNQt

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:25 pm

        cant you feeeeelllll the islamic Loooove?, and what a stellar job al-Ubama has done repairing all the bridges W burned around the world.
        They just LOVE us now………dont they?


        Protesters smash windows, set fires at embassy in Tunisia…


        Report: German embassy in Sudan on fire…

        Clashes intensify near US embassy in Cairo…

        Embassies on high alert as protests spread…

        Crowd in Lebanon torches KFC…

        stoooopid muzzies dont they KNOW it Chick Fil-A they were told to burn.
        jeez get it right would ya!! (sarcasm)

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:30 pm

        DER SPIEGEL: ‘Obama’s Middle East Policy is in Ruins’…

        FBI Warns of Violence in America…

        REPORT: Marines not permitted live ammo at embassy in Egypt…

        Note to FBI………….we AINT the ME, and we AINT going to sit around and let lunatic muslim mobs burn our churches, our homes and our city’s……WE WILL fight them in our streets!!!

        (not a threat but a PROMISE)

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 12:34 pm

        I WOULD volunteer……but Im married……..welllllll For my country…(just kidding)

        Liberal Fox Contributor Says Michelle Malkin Is Angry & ‘Probably Needs to Get Laid’

      • J. R. Babcock September 14, 2012 / 12:40 pm

        cant you feeeeelllll the islamic Loooove?, and what a stellar job al-Ubama has done repairing all the bridges W burned around the world.

        They just LOVE us now………dont they?

        And yet he still has the chutzpah to claim that Romney is the one who is lacking foreign policy expertise. Too funny!

      • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 1:39 pm

        And yet he still has the chutzpah to claim that Romney is the one who is lacking foreign policy expertise. Too funny!

        a delusional narcissist, AND a liar…..a dangerous combination.

  12. Amazona September 14, 2012 / 2:40 pm

    “Liberal Fox Contributor Says Michelle Malkin Is Angry & ‘Probably Needs to Get Laid’”

    Any historians out there? Anyone who can tell us if the American Liberal has always been so crotch-centric?

    It seems that every reaction they have and every policy they want is genital in nature.

    Yet, even with this preoccupation with all things sexual, they never seem to be having any fun! Have you ever seen a more sour and miserable bunch? Diane Sawyer finally got enough Botox to smooth out her Klingon ridges, Katie always looks ready to kick someone, the cable Lefties are the most gloomy and vicious group imaginable, and all they do is snarl and spit and lie.

    Wouldn’t you think that a movement that concentrates below the belt would at least be having a good time?

    • neocon1 September 14, 2012 / 3:08 pm

      Wouldn’t you think that a movement that concentrates below the belt would at least be having a good time?

      they cant determine the entrance from the exit, no wonder they are frustrated.

      • dvindice September 14, 2012 / 5:04 pm

        Odd that the proggies focus so much on an exit that they can not find with a map and both hands…

    • Retired Spook September 14, 2012 / 8:22 pm

      There’s a new bumper sticker that capitalizes on the Left’s obsession with sex.

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