Paul Asks Kerry the Important Question

From Allahpundit at Hot Air:

Excellent, and not just the Libya stuff. Stick with it for Paul’s questions about how smart it is to be arming the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt when Morsi is already wheezing about Jews controlling the media in official diplomatic sessions with the U.S. If you’re wondering why it fell to Paul to ask this question instead of any of the more senior senators who preceded him, it’s because the Senate was perfectly happy to have Obama act unilaterally on Libya. The Iraq war authorization came back to haunt many of them; no one knew at the time how messy Libya might get. O did them a favor, left and right, by freeing them from a tough vote. But Kerry can’t say that so instead he squirms through a few minutes of how the two bombing campaigns are different because they just are. Frankly, Paul let him off easy. You could, if you chose, defend U.S. actions in Cambodia as a cross-border extension of the war already being fought in Vietnam. No such defense for Libya; if anything, the Libya war cut against the AUMF against Al Qaeda that was passed after 9/11 because, as we’ve recently learned, eliminating Qadaffi was actually a boon to jihadist groups like AQ…

Do go to the link and check out the video of the questions.  Allahpundit is exactly right that Congress was perfectly happy to let Obama go off on his own in Libya – because it prevented any of them from having to take a vote which, at election time, may have been a burden to carry.  The atrophy of the legislative power of the United States was starkly displayed in the Libya mess, as it is now being put on display in Mali.  This is not actually Obama’s fault – at least in the sense that he didn’t make it all happen by himself.  All Presidents since World War Two have routinely encroached on legislative powers, with the only time Congress acting in a Congressional manner during the Nixon years, and even that wasn’t on principal but merely because Democrats wanted to get Nixon (why?  Because Nixon – establishment Republican that he was – was also a stout anti-communist in the 50’s and was actually more effective, in certain ways, in exposing liberal fellow-traveling with communists than McCarthy ever was; they hated Nixon because he exposed the truth about liberals).   Rand Paul, being a strict constitutionalist, is actually behaving like a Senator who has oversight powers over the Executive branch…and Paul should watch out:  the more he exposes the truth, the more the left is going to hate him.


55 thoughts on “Paul Asks Kerry the Important Question

  1. Cluster January 25, 2013 / 2:59 pm

    How is it that this President and administration constantly receives a pass on every blunder, misstep, and outright failure? (That’s a rhetorical question)

    – Libya – The Arab spring was not only championed by this administration, but encouraged and promoted as “democracy” coming to the ME as a result of the greatness of Obama. Well as we see now, Libya is an AQ stronghold where 4 Americans were brutally murdered due to the administrations complete incompetence and lack of foresight in protecting the embassy. Egypt continues to spiral downwards and Tahrir Square is now one of the most dangerous places in the world.

    – Hurricane Sandy area – a complete mess. People still without basic services and yet not one single word from the media or the administration. What happened to all the money generated from the star studded concert?

    – Unemployment – still at 8% with seemingly no concern from the administration, nor any effort put forth to address it. It appears that once again the administration and Obama is pouring all of their energy and efforts into the gun debate, gay marriage and immigration rather than putting people back to work. Much like they did in 2009 with Health Care.

    If only we had an objective media along with more people who were interested in actually resolving problems rather than creating crisis’s to further an agenda and demonizing opponents.

    • bardolf2 January 25, 2013 / 3:13 pm

      The Dow is near an all time high. That is the most important metric for most establishment Republicans.

      The GOP really has no leg to stand on when it comes to presidential abuse of power for foreign campaigns so Libya doesn’t count.

      Hurricane Sandy, Obama got lots of luvin’ from the GOP governors like Christie so nothing there.

      Unemployed people are part of the 47% of moochers so they don’t count.

      Fox News is the leading news channel by far. Are they not objective? If there are 100 channels with 2 viewers each that are pro-Obama does that really matter?

      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) January 25, 2013 / 3:28 pm

        The DJIA isn’t the economy, violation of the Constitution is a violation so it “counts”, who are the “governors” since I only recall one? Moochers, employed or not are of concern to those of us that pay taxes, and Fox News is tiny compared with the alphabet networks ABC, NBC CBS where you and the rest of the low-information voters get your marching orders.

        If you’re trying to be funny it just isn’t working for you, is it?

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 3:40 pm


        If you’re trying to be funny it just isn’t working for you, is it?

        the checkbook balancing “prof” is serious, THATS why he IS funny!

      • Amazona January 25, 2013 / 3:44 pm

        Poor dolf is so far over the edge that his posts have become parodies of dolf.

        Oh, this latest could be a fey wrist-fluttering effort to be darling, but it has a ring of true belief to it, a hint that while he might try to walk back the comments with claims they are meant to be humorous they really do come from a simmering little bubble of personal belief.

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 4:26 pm

        Im DONE with these ASS Klowns……

        GOP Senators join in chorus of Kerry worship at confirmation hearing
        Rick Moran

        John Kerry is going to be our next Secretary of State. That much was obvious from his confirmation hearing on Thursday as Senator after Senator praised him to the skies.

        And that included most GOP members of the Foreign Relations Committee:

        The Massachusetts senator was praised by Republicans as well his fellow Democrats during the 3-1/2 hour hearing. Republicans in particular said they appreciated his calls for fiscal order.

        “I look at you, in being nominated for this, as someone who has almost led their entire life, if you will, for this moment, being able to serve in this capacity,” said Senator Bob Corker of Tennessee, the top Republican on the panel.

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      • Count d'Haricots (@Count_dHaricots) January 25, 2013 / 5:42 pm

        Pick your battles neo.

        What is the point of opposing Kerry? He served in the Senate and was the dimocrats candidate for president. He hasn’t been indicted (like his running mate) and the people of MA continue to elect him to office.

        yeah, i don’t like him and think putting him in the Cabinet is a big mistake, but elections have consequences and Obama won. If he wants to surround himself with an anti-American cabal of of Chamberlain types then so be it.

        Besides, what difference does it make?

      • M. Noonan January 25, 2013 / 7:29 pm


        I think we can all agree that Kerry hasn’t the wit to be an effective SecState – but, given that almost all Obama appointees are exemplars of government incompetence, I don’t think that is worth fighting over…nor is it all that important that Kerry betrayed our troops in Vietnam (that is just par for the course for a liberal Democrat, after all; its not their fault that a majority of the American people don’t understand what “betray” means). But it is a bit nauseating that a lot of GOPers are not just giving him a pass, but actually lauding him…they could at least have kept their mouths shut. I mean, why praise the man? Its not like he can give favors again…he’ll be out of the Senate and in charge of foreign policy, and unless you are heavily invested in a company doing corrupt business overseas, Kerry won’t be able to help you…

      • bardolf2 January 26, 2013 / 12:57 pm

        If the DJIA isn’t the economy what is mr. bean counter? Whatever metric you morons claim today you’ll unclaim tomorrow.

        Unemployment? The fact is that Bush kept unemployment artificially low with the housing bubble and its derivative effects. When if blew up all of a sudden it was Barney Frank and Sallie Mae to blame.

        The price of gas? Well it was pretty much the same level throughout the Bush presidency with a big dip at the end when 2 wars drove the world economy and demand for oil down. But you morons think that Bush opening up the strategic reserves which account for an infinitesimal part of the world supply is what drove oil prices down.

        Your mind is tiny if you think Fox News isn’t the network where more people get their news.

        For a person who contributes nothing to the mission of the university you use the term moocher and leech pretty freely.
        There’s nothing funny about bloating a bureaucracy and pretending to be a fiscal conservative. Of course you’re also not a social conservative or a conservative on matters of foreign policy. Your cheap shots calling Ron Paul an anti-semite were simply a ruse for the fact that you like an interventionist foreign policy with a GOP president bombing the world if it doesn’t do what the US elite decides.

        @Amy is her usual catty, bitchy self contributing zero to a conversation but swooning when the Count of Cant puts down his cigar and single malt scotch to opine about how things were in the good old days.

        @Neo can’t help but be amazed with a Goldwater Republican with an IQ above 50. No mention that it is exactly the Goldwater wing of the GOP which led to Roe v. Wade and the phony support the GOP has for pro-life issues.

        BTW watch to see how many GOP senators vote to approve JFK, one of their own.

      • neocon01 January 26, 2013 / 1:15 pm


        Pick your battles neo.

        you have to remember I was born and raised during the height of the cold war.
        In the Marines I fought in some of Viet Nam’s epic battles and saw the absolute evil of communism up close and first hand.

        I have NO room for communists any where especially in our government and make NO mistake there are plenty from the kenyan to the POS JFnK.

        That is my opinion and I will take it to the grave with me.

        islam = communism in my book, both total evil.

      • Retired Spook January 26, 2013 / 1:48 pm

        If the DJIA isn’t the economy what is

        Seriously? The DJIA is a largely manipulated metric, 70-80% driven by flash trades funded by ZIRP. If it’s representative of “the economy”, then we are in deep, deep poop.

        Unemployment? The fact is that Bush kept unemployment artificially low with the housing bubble and its derivative effects.

        OMG, that eeeeeeevil Booooooosh. He single-handedly manipulated the housing market to keep unemployment artificially low. Too funny!

        When if blew up all of a sudden it was Barney Frank and Sallie Mae to blame.

        What??? Were students taking out loans and then using them to buy houses. Just when I thought you couldn’t get any goofier……

        The price of gas? Well it was pretty much the same level throughout the Bush presidency with a big dip at the end when 2 wars drove the world economy and demand for oil down.

        Well, except the average price of gas during the Bush presidency was $2.14 while the average during the Obama presidency has been 40% higher at $2.99. Just think of that as a massive tax on those folks who Obama said wouldn’t pay “one more dime” in taxes. And they loved it so much, they bent over on November 6th and said stick it to us again.

        But you morons think that Bush opening up the strategic reserves which account for an infinitesimal part of the world supply is what drove oil prices down.

        I think you’re confused. None of us morons here have ever made that claim. And every president since Bush 41 has opened the strategic petroleum reserves at some point for a variety of reasons. The claim HAS been made by us morons that Bush 43’s lifting of the moratorium on off-shore drilling in July, 2008 did have an immediate effect on the price of crude. The day after Bush lifted the moratorium, the price of crude plummeted, and that was a couple months before the economy crashed.

        Your mind is tiny if you think Fox News isn’t the network where more people get their news.

        That’s hilarious! More people, particularly in the 25-54 demographic, get their news from the Daily Show than from Fox News.

        I’m going to stop here, Dolf, since the rest of your post is just bitchy personal attacks, but this has got to be one of the goofiest posts you’ve ever made. Did someone slip something in your coffee this morning?

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 2:01 pm

        Oh, dolf, you really ought to stay on your meds. Your posts are getting quite erratic. While you used to post just as a pedantic, egotistical lecturer striving to convince us of your vast intellect, lately you have just embarrassed yourself with your strange ranting.

        (I know much of is based on jealousy of the Count, who is so much smarter than you, and vastly funnier, and who sets you straight with such relentless regularity, as well as frustration at never being able to best me—but really, dolf, you need to find less petty motivations for posting.)

        The DJIA follows the economy, is an economic indicator, and even then it is more of an indicator of attitudes in the Investment Class as much as, if not more than, actual economic activity. The DJIA decline in the year after 9/11 is proof of this, as it reflects the uncertainty felt by investors as the nation hovered on the brink of some kind of war, someplace, at some time.

        Bush had nothing to do with the housing bubble, not in a causative way. To use current vernacular, he “inherited” it, though it grew under his watch—but it grew because of wrong-headed legislation spurred by the Left, to continue to force lenders into loaning money to people who could not pay it back, and actions by “community organizers” such as former Obama employer ACORN to essentially blackmail lenders into reckless lending.

        Bush certainly did not “keep unemployment artificially low”. For one thing, your usual lack of precision makes it impossible to tell if you are trying to claim that the actual number of people out of work was kept “artificially low” by the President, or if the reporting of the numbers of those out of work was kept “artificially low” as is the case today under this President.

        If the former, you’re an idiot (pause here for the loud “DUH!” from regular blog readers…..) as people who are working are people who are working, and under Bush they were not being paid with freshly minted money from a desperate Fed trying to keep the economy looking sound by passing out the equivalent of Monopoly money.

        If the latter, you’re just in the wrong decade, whining about the wrong President.

        “Your mind is tiny if you think Fox News isn’t the network where more people get their news.”

        “More people” than…..? Than get their “news” from network sources such as “news” shows and venues like “Today” and “The View”? Support that claim, please—if that is what you are saying. (Once again we circle back to the imprecision observation, above.)

        And so on. You regularly cross the line between obnoxious and creepy, spending more and more time on the creepy side.

        “…. it is exactly the Goldwater wing of the GOP which led to Roe v. Wade…..”

        and of course

        “….. the phony support the GOP has for pro-life issues…”

        Absolute howling-at-the-moon lunacy tinged with an ever-growing element of downright creepy.

        And speaking of “creepy”—-while a woman who is smart and effective is often dismissed as merely being “bitchy” when a man can’t out-argue or out-perfom her, at least “bitchy” applied to a woman is not downright icky, as it is when a man exhibits the overt bitchiness and the simpering coyness we see from you.

        Jes’ sayin’……..

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 2:03 pm

        Too funny, Spook—-you posted your comments, above, while I was writing mine, interrupted by someone at the door, yet we had the same take on dolf’s latest little meltdown. And we both see him as bitchy.

    • The Return of Rathaven January 25, 2013 / 3:18 pm

      Not true Cluster; the observation class in the media are quick to assign blame, and relentless in their public persecution of the responsible parties. George W. Bush!

      Continuing AQ attacks are caused by the Iraq War as a recruiting tool for terrorists.

      Super-storm Sandy caused such severe problems because of Bush’s inaction in fixing local infrastructure. It may take years to fix the mess Bush left behind.

      Unemployment; think how much worse the Bush-caused problem would be if Obama hadn’t taken quick and decisive action to avert another Depression; Bush’s fault.

      The Press reports these facts and lays blame daily — Do try to keep up.

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 3:38 pm


        BS from a NO information moron on BDS

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 3:58 pm

        The FAKE, FRAUD, LYING, perjuring,COWARD TRAITOR!!! hand picked by the POS marxist, muslim, fake, fraud, kenyan usurper..

        Hot Air TV: Sen. John Kerry confronted about Winter Soldier II
        By Michelle Malkin • March 12, 2008 11:12 PM

        Cross-posted at Hot Air…scroll down for updates…


        Grab the popcorn. We’ve got another joint YAF/Hot Air TV production for you, just in time for the anti-war confab known as “Winter Soldier II” that kicks off in Washington, D.C. tomorrow and runs through Sunday. YAF’s Jason Mattera, our intrepid special correspondent who cornered Jack Murtha in September, is back in the halls of Congress.

        This week, Jason caught up with the original Winter Soldier, Sen. John Kerry, and confronted him about his unsubstantiated, troop-smearing testimony. Jason also tried to get him to autograph this picture. Watch:


        Here’s the transcript:

        Opening slate: On January 31, 1971, John Kerry organized the “Winter Soldier Investigations,” a media event that falsely accused American soldiers of routinely raping, torturing, and murdering innocent Vietnamese civilians.

        Second slate: From March 13-16, 2008, “Iraq Veterans Against the War” has coordinated a second Winter Soldier Investigations in an effort to assail the U.S. Military in Iraq and Afghanistan.

        Third slate: On March 11, 2008, Jason Mattera of Young America’’s Foundation confronted Senator Kerry (D-MA) about Winter Soldier II and the Senator’’s shady past.

        MATTERA: Hey, Sen. Kerry! Jason Mattera with Young America’s Foundation. How are you?

        KERRY: Jason. How are you?

        MATTERA: I was wondering: Do you have any advice for the new group of activists who are organizing Winter Soldier II?

        KERRY: I haven’t [unintelligble] what they’re doing or where they’re at. I just don’t…

        MATTERA: Do you think this crop of anti-war activists, do you there’ll be any frauds like Al Hubbard?

        KERRY: I have no idea. I hope not.

        MATTERA: Do you think that they will make slanderous accusations–accusing the troops of raping women, pillaging villaging, just like you did to the Fulbright committee?

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 4:01 pm

        MATTERA: Does it bother you that the North Vietnamese created a memorial dedicated to you?

        KERRY: It’s not dedicated to me.

        Slate: At the Communists War Remnants Museum in Ho Chi Minh City, John Kerry’s picture hangs in a section dedicated to the anti-war activists ******who helped the Vietnamese Communists win the Vietnam War.******

        End slate:

        Reputations ruined.
        Lives torn apart.
        Servicemen maligned.

        We can’t let lies like Kerry’s go unchallenged again.

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 4:07 pm

        from swiftboats site

        Given all the other stuff that’s cropped up (Christmas in Cambodia, etc…) I’m beginning to wonder what the Democratic Party was thinking when they gave Kerry the nod.

        ***Maybe they should give their crack pipes a rest for a few days.***

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 4:11 pm


        “Kerry Requests Silver Star After Piloting Swift Boat Through New

        WASHINGTON, DC — John Kerry contacted the Pentagon today to request
        a Silver Star for a recent swift boat mission he ran through the
        streets of New Orleans. While the Pentagon claims the mission was
        unauthorized, Kerry claims it was a secret mission approved by the
        highest levels of the government.

        “I clearly remember listening to the radio and hearing President Bush
        deny that swift boats were in New Orleans,” said Kerry. “And there I
        was on a swift boat in New Orleans. Dodging bullets. Scanning the
        shore for enemy fire and mortar attack. The band aid on my hand
        covers a wound I received while moving too quickly on deck for a
        photo op and scraping against the railing.”

        Sean Penn tried to join Kerry on his own swift boat, but it sank
        before leaving dock. Penn forgot to put the plug in the bottom of
        the boat and refused to stuff his Communist flag in the hole to
        prevent flooding”

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 4:21 pm

        They must be with hussiens BC and college transcripts……

        R. RUSSERT: Would you sign Form 180?

        SEN. KERRY: But everything, Tim…

        MR. RUSSERT: Would you sign Form 180?

        SEN. KERRY: Yes, I will…

        Good. First, we like his admission that not everything had been released (“at the last moment, they sent some more stuff”), although we were already quite clear on that point.

        Second, it is worth remembering that it was Tim Russert who beat some records out of Kerry in April of 2004. However, as the Boston Globe documented, getting Kerry to fulfill his promise became oral surgery – we have backpedaling on the morning after, grudging compliance in response to criticism, and then a release shot through with errors.

        So, will Kerry keep his promise this time, or will he do a 180 on the 180? Time will tell, but who will pressure him to perform? Kerry himself would be the biggest beneficiary of an early (and little-noticed) resolution to this – if he lets these questions linger, he is pre-damaged goods for a 2008 campaign, which probably suits his prospective rivals. For myself, I would love to see a resolution to the mystery of his first Purple Heart.

  2. Cluster January 25, 2013 / 4:33 pm

    And once again, the misstep by the President is being excused away by his sycophantic media and others are to blame. Re: the unconstitutional recess appointments:

    MSNBC’s Thomas Roberts turned to network contributor and former Democratic Senate staffer Jimmy Williams for his reaction. Williams conceded the the court had ruled correctly, but rather than chiding the president for violating his oath of office with unconstitutional appointments, he blamed Senate Republicans for driving Mr. Obama to do so.

    Got that?

    Read more:

    • The Return of Rathaven January 25, 2013 / 4:44 pm

      Well duh!

      Think back to the Clinton years; the illegal campaign contributions that Clinton received were necessary because someone had to stop the Republicans! That’s what Bill Clinton said and the media dutifully reported it.

      There is nothing new under the sun.

      • neocon01 January 25, 2013 / 4:56 pm

        Report: Washington Didn’t Even Tell Marine Gen. He Was Being Replaced

        …the commander-in-chief can make a change whenever he wants and give no reason. That is right and proper under our system of government.

        the PURGE has begun…..

      • Retired Spook January 25, 2013 / 6:26 pm

        Shock claim: Obama only wants military leaders who ‘will fire on U.S. citizens’

        Well, that works both ways; I will only fire on military leaders who shoot at me.

      • patriotdad1 January 26, 2013 / 11:07 pm

        Did you read the comments on that thread? Unbelievable. The stupidity is remarkable.

  3. Retired Spook January 25, 2013 / 9:45 pm

    Rand Paul was on Glenn Beck’s radio show this morning, and they played a portion of his questioning of Kerry:

    RAND PAUL: For when people disagree with you, they just go ahead and do it. In the early 1970s, you know, after Vietnam, you were quite critical of the bombing in Cambodia because I think you felt that it wasn’t authorized by congress. Has your opinion changed about the bombing in Cambodia?

    GLENN: So good.

    RAND PAUL: How’s Cambodia different than Libya?

    KERRY: No, nor did my opinion change or has it ever altered about the war in Vietnam itself where I don’t believe, and I argued then.

    RAND PAUL: Is Cambodia different than Libya?

    KERRY: Well, Cambod‑ ‑‑ yeah, it is. Because it was an extension of a war that was being prosecuted without the involvement of congress after a number of years.

    GLENN: What? How did you not just ‑‑

    PAT: Oh, my gosh.

    GLENN: How did you not laugh at that, Rand?

    RAND PAUL: Well, see the whole thing is this is why foreign policy is so muddled. And it’s like he says, “I believe in absolutes.” Well, yeah, the Constitution is pretty clear about the separation of powers. It is a congressional power to declare war. And his answer basically was, “Well, yes, I agree with that except for when I don’t agree with that.” (emphasis – mine)

    If Senator Paul thinks our foreign policy is muddled now, he ain’t seen nuthin’ yet. Just wait till Lurch gets on the job.

  4. Cluster January 26, 2013 / 9:07 am

    Completely Off Topic but has to be mentioned. Remember all the media bashing Tim Tebow received over his Faith? Well there are two other QB”s in the league that also are men of strong Faith. RGIII, and Colin Kaepernick.

    Kaepernick’s faith is out there for the world to see. It’s literally written all over his body. He has “faith” inscribed on his right bicep, and “to God the glory” on his right arm as well.

    Any guess’s as to why Colin and RGIII don’t receive the same level of scrutiny?

    • Retired Spook January 26, 2013 / 10:34 am

      Any guess’s as to why Colin and RGIII don’t receive the same level of scrutiny?

      It must have something to do with the content of their character.

      • Cluster January 26, 2013 / 10:41 am

        That must be it. Good call Spook


      • neocon01 January 26, 2013 / 12:33 pm

        great answer Spook LOL

    • bardolf2 January 26, 2013 / 1:01 pm

      A: Because they actually have pro-level talent unlike Tebow.

      You boys don’t even know anything about football.

      • neocon01 January 26, 2013 / 1:25 pm

        riiight baldork

        Tbow = white = loser

        any one black = great = hero..
        .got it. aint PC and ignorance grand?

      • neocon01 January 26, 2013 / 1:36 pm

        unlike Tebow.
        You boys don’t even know anything about football.

        yeah we are just like the dumb asses at NY Jets.
        Shhhh dont tell the fools there they are paying ( $3.6 million — $1.6 million in salary and bonuses for Tebow, plus a $2-million payout to the Broncos.) for such a loser…… Ill call em and tell the great baldork has spoken.

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 2:09 pm

        Poor dolf—his raging jealousy of those more talented (not to mention downright gorgeous) than he seems to be oozing out of all his posts lately.

        Well, I guess peevishness isn’t exactly the same as “raging”. When dolf starts trying to posture as a manly man, strong and forceful, all that comes to my mind is Wally Cox and “pocketa pocketa”.

      • bardolf2 January 26, 2013 / 10:07 pm


        The Jets got the PR they wanted from Tebow. If you call the Jets they’ll tell you there already looking to offload him.

        @Amy needs to go back to doing things she has expertise in,. like making sandwiches for her superbowl party. She’d should that the Denver Broncos cut Tebow as soon as they could find a delicate way to do so, i.e. by hiring an aging Peyton.

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 10:27 pm

        dolf, if I live to be 150 I will never be as much of a cranky old woman as you.

        Why are your panties in such a twist about Tim Tebow? I can think of dozens of athletes over the years I haven’t thought were all that great, yet I never felt compelled to snivel about them.

        Really, dolf, you make it sound awfully personal. That’s kind of weird……

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 10:47 pm

        BTW, even your efforts at cattiness are limp and impotent.

        Evidently you are still stung by the old posts in which I showed you up as being rather illiterate, regarding food and wine, and think you finally have a chance to score a zinger with your “sandwich” snipe.

        Not having a SB party this year, as my media room carpet is still not down, but when I have in the past i for damned sure didn’t just serve sandwiches. My canapes alone were things of beauty, and I liked having specialty drinks for the occasion. I have one of those rolling cooking carts that gourmet restaurants used to use to do tableside flambes, before the Nanny State decreed them to be too dangerous, and I’ve been able to do gourmet fajitas, seafood crepes, and even Bananas Foster for dessert, all in the family room while watching the game.

        You may be thinking of the Big Sandwich of Wings fame, which would fit right into your ticky-tacky little high desert community college shindigs. Or maybe you try to put on the dog and pull out the Zinfandel to serve with your brie (snicker snicker).

    • watsonthethird January 26, 2013 / 2:20 pm

      Um, maybe it’s because Tim Tebow, by his own admission, is out-spoken about his faith? Pretty much every interview starts with him thanking Jesus Christ.

      Have you heard any Collin Kaepernick interviews? He generally says as little as possible in response to any question. He’s from the Jim Harbaugh school of interviews.

      Of course, he was criticized for those tattoos in the media. One writer complained, “”San Francisco’s Colin Kaepernick is going to be a big-time NFL quarterback. That must make the guys in San Quentin happy.” Probably a pal of NeoClown’s.

      But Cluster, instead of playing this silly guessing game, why don’t you come out and tell us what you think.

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 2:24 pm

        wattle, you have already established yourself as someone with no greater aspiration than to remind us of your inability to be anything other than a blog vandal. Take few days off—-don’t worry, we won’t forget.

      • watsonthethird January 26, 2013 / 2:50 pm

        Thank you for yet another thoughtful contribution, Little Amy. If you don’t like the fact that I responded to the topic cluster raised, maybe you should take a few days off.

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 3:40 pm

        Ooooh! So scathing—taking what I say and then tossing it back to me with a feeble limp-wristed throw!

        While it is interesting that you admit to anti-Tebow bigotry being based on his open declarations of his faith, it still does not answer the question of why HIS faith makes HIM a target, while that of others does not, nor does it explain your knee-jerk effort to slam neo.

        In other words, your pseudo-response is really only a poorly disguised attack on blog posters and a Christian athlete.

      • Cluster January 26, 2013 / 3:41 pm


        You really have to lighten up man. It seems as though you are trying to pick a fight.over everything. That post was largely tongue in cheek, but the difference in the way the media handles the races is stark. A black man of Faith is handled very differently than a white man of Faith. The last Presidential campaign was a great example.

      • Cluster January 26, 2013 / 3:42 pm

        And by the way, Tebow DOES NOT mention his Faith in every interview. So your premise is just wrong.

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 3:53 pm

        OF COURSE he is trying to pick a fight. That is the only reason he is here. And of course what he says is not true. That is a characteristic of the droppings of the wattle on this blog.

      • watsonthethird January 27, 2013 / 3:37 pm

        Pick a fight? Cluster asked a question, I offered an answer. We see from his response above that behind his question was his premise that “A black man of Faith is handled very differently than a white man of Faith.” It’s always a racial thing with you guys, I guess.

        Here’s a transcript of yesterday’s press conference with Collin Kaepernick. Most of his answers are single sentences. That’s always the way it is with Kaepernick. He had plenty of opportunities to proclaim his faith, as Tim Tebow typically does in his press conferences. Especially when questioned about his tattoos, many of which are Biblical verses. He chose not to. It’s not a racial thing. You just want to make it one.

        If anyone wanted to pick a fight, it was Little Amy, per her usual MO.

      • watsonthethird January 27, 2013 / 3:41 pm

        Actually, my bad on that one. He did acknowledge the Biblical inspiration of some of his tattoos. But in general, the point remains. It’s not something he chooses to bring up in the interviews I’ve seen. You just feel the need to make it a black/white thing.

      • Amazona January 28, 2013 / 1:06 pm

        Pick a fight? moi ?

        Got it wrong, as usual, punkin. I end fights by bringing in facts to refute the nonsense dumped here by people like you who have some weird pathological desperation that drives you to troll the internet looking for people who self-identify as “conservative” so you can snarl at them, call them names, make fun of them, and in general make a total donkey out of yourself.

        Sorry your obsessions blind you to sarcasm. We often point out the racial discrimination of the Left, and it is quite legitimate to wonder if openly Christian black athletes are given a pass by the Complicit Agenda Media while an openly Christian white athlete is subjected to vicious attacks on his faith, his talent, and him as a person.

        You guys don’t like having this pointed out to you, then clean up your act. But it is the LEFT that tries to make everything a black/white issue, and if this is your M.O. then stop sniveling when we point it out.

        “It’s always a racial thing with you guys, I guess.” is one of the funniest things you have ever posted. This coming from an ardent RRL kneepadder, supporting a group that seeks out and invents “racism” at every opportunity, even stooping so low as to claim that comments completely devoid of racial content are really “coded” to hide the inherent racism they sense must be there.

  5. Cluster January 26, 2013 / 1:51 pm

    Upthread is classic barstool:

    Bush kept unemployment artificially low with the housing bubble and its derivative effects

    That was Bush that did that? Really? While Bush promoted home ownership, he warned against the irresponsible lending practices encouraged by Fannie and Freddie, and the derivative debacle was a result of lenders wanting to shed their books of “toxic assets” as a result of being held hostage to Fed money if they hadn’t complied with Fannie and Freddie. How many times have we been over this Stool?

    And while many average wage earners have pension money invested in the stock market and are realizing some benefit, the people that reaping the most rewards are the evil rich!! The very people Obama SAYS he wants to punish. But as we all know, that is just rhetoric to the ignorant masses to reelection purposes. The rich will fare much better under Obama than a Romney Presidency could have brought them.

    Try again stool.

    • bardolf2 January 26, 2013 / 10:02 pm

      So the low unemployment under Bush due to the housing bubble should not be considered as legitimate especially since he was against toxic assets. Gotcha

      BTW what is YOUR metric for the economy?

      • Amazona January 26, 2013 / 10:36 pm

        Do you realize it when you make absolutely no sense, or does it still seem rational to you when you see your words in print?

        The low unemployment rate under Bush was quite legitimate, as it was an accurate assessment of how many people were looking for work, and the number was quite low. No one said anything different, and the fact that you made the utterly bizarre comment “So the low unemployment under Bush due to the housing bubble should not be considered as legitimate especially since he was against toxic assets.” is inexplicable. It makes no sense on its own, it is not related to anything I or anyone else said, and in general it looks like a symptom of some brain dysfunction.

        First you came up with the ridiculous concept of Bush “artificially keeping the unemployment figures low” and now you try to pretend I, or anyone else, said the unemployment figures “should not be considered as legitimate” because of Bush’s warnings on the problems with Fannie and Freddy.

        That’s quite a death spiral of disintegration of the thought process there, dolf, and you ought to have it checked out.

  6. Amazona January 26, 2013 / 7:33 pm

    This comment by the major pain, posted January 26, 2013 at 3:59 pm, in the Second Amendment thread, is so important that I am going to post this on every thread, because I don’t want it to be overlooked:

    The Constitution was not written to protect the people; it was written to preserve the Union and the rights of, initially, white men who owned property.”

    Looking past the racism that permeates all of the major pain’s outlook (there is another reference to “white Americans” in the same post) and the fact that I thought all posts from the forkers were to be deleted because of the rampant bigotry that marks them, we need to look at this precise statement:


    What could be a clearer statement of the core belief of the rabidly radical Left? Get past the fact that to believe this means a complete inability to understand fact, language or history—–it is a summary of the credo of the Left.

    That is, that nothing is more important than the government, nothing is less important than the individual.

    Now, those of us who have read the Constitution, those of us who have studied it and read not only the document but the supporting, contemporaneous writings of those who created it, those of us who understand the goals of the Founders and the events that led up to the writing of the document, all know that the Constitution is NOT about protecting the Union, but about protecting the people FROM the Union.

    The rabidly radical Left simply ignores fact, history and language because they are so deeply committed to the concept that government is always more important than people.

  7. Amazona January 26, 2013 / 10:56 pm

    No one has mentioned the incoherence of Kerry in interviews. THIS is the man we want to send out into the world to represent the United States in diplomacy and negotiations?

    “No, nor did my opinion change or has it ever altered about the war in Vietnam itself where I don’t believe, and I argued then.”

    OK, so he IS the perfect representative for the incoherent administration we are saddled with, but I cringe at the thought of having our nation evaluated based on anything this man does or says.

    Sending Kerry off to represent the nation is as stupid as it would be to put a tax cheat in charge of the Treasury, or a homosexual pedophile in charge of education.

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