Jeb’s Immigration Problem

We all know that Jeb is in favor of amnesty – as am I – but there’s a problem I detect in Jeb’s view:

Here’s Bush: “We need to find a way, a path to legalized status for those that have come here and have languished in the shadows. There’s no way that they’re going to be deported — no one’s suggesting an organized effort to do that. The cost of that would be extraordinary.”

And here’s Bush: “The 40 percent of the people that have come illegally came with a legal visa and overstayed their bounds. We ought to be able to find where they are and politely ask them to leave.”

As it turns out, those who over-stay their visas tend to be better educated, have a command of English and would be eligible for some pretty good jobs if their legal status was changed. Meanwhile, people who cross our southern border tend to be less educated, non-English-speakers and cluster in low-pay, low-skill jobs. It would seem to me that if we wanted to do amnesty, we’d actually want to favor those with the most skills – ie, those who can do the most good for the United States – than those with the least skills. But here’s pro-amnesty Bush saying let’s get rid of the high-educated and keep the low-educated. Why?

I can’t peer into Jeb’s heart and see what precisely is motivating him but I suspect that raw, political calculation might be at play. Who would feel most threatened by the sudden legalization of a large number of college-educated, high-skilled immigrants? Americans who are college-educated and high-skilled – you’d be allowing massive competition for their jobs to suddenly erupt…and people like that can command political power by simple fact of their ability to donate buckets of money to political campaigns. But letting in lots of low-skilled workers? No problem – they just compete with low-skill American workers…who cares about them? And, at any rate, a large increase in low-skill workers just drives down labor costs for some of our largest multinational corporations, and that is pleasing to the Chamber of Commerce types. In total, Jeb’s views on immigration are picture perfect if you are planning on running for President on an anti-GOP Base platform…it allows you to appeal to the big money corporate donors while also keeping upscale, suburban voters on your side (who are, also, all in favor of amnesty…as long as it doesn’t hurt them…and if it provides cheap nannies and gardeners, so much the better).

I’ve long grown rather irritated with our Ruling Class, including the GOP part of it. It appears to me that they want to keep masses of Americans on welfare so they can be fat, dumb and happy voters while importing a bunch of foreigners to do the grunt work of the nation while the people at the top get to live swell lives…meanwhile, those Americans who want to work hard and play by the rules are to be squeezed by cheap labor and high taxes. Methinks this might not be the best way for the nation to go. I’m not going to blame Jeb for all this – or even think him bad for what he advocates…but the whole system is rotten and it will screw us all over (even the immigrants – remember, cheap, easily exploitable labor is not exactly what America is supposed to stand for)…and Jeb is just part of it. We definitely cannot entrust ourselves to him, or anyone like him.

I retain a general support for amnesty – but until we get a government I can trust is actually on the side of the people, I want no part of it. I want liberty and justice for all – not special deals designed to merely perpetuate a Ruling Class in power.

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6 thoughts on “Jeb’s Immigration Problem

  1. Cluster February 26, 2015 / 7:44 pm

    Here we are considering amnesty again without much discussion on securing the border. Why even bother? If we don’t resolve the border problem and at the very least stem the tide, we will just be having this same conversation again in 5 to 10 years. Illegal immigration also floods the low skilled labor pool which already is suffering from high unemployment which will drive down wages. The people that will really be hurt by this is the lower class. And every GOP candidate should be pounding the drums on exposing the Democrats complete disdain for the Constitution by filibustering the DHS bill in support of Obama’s unconstitutional executive order. They have proven beyond any question now that their ideology trumps the Constitution. That’s who they are. And they lie, cheat and steal to achieve their goal. A lot of people still don’t get that.

    I often think that Islamic jihadism is to young Muslims what climate change is to young progressives.

    • Retired Spook February 26, 2015 / 9:31 pm

      I often think that Islamic jihadism is to young Muslims what climate change is to young progressives.

      The big difference being that young Progressives aren’t willing to die to fight climate change, but it’s certainly every bit as much a religion for them.

      • M. Noonan February 27, 2015 / 1:04 am

        I think it does hold, however – everyone craves belief. I think God built that into us – but if we won’t believe in the one, True God, then we’re open to anything…filling the void for slack jawed western youth is Climate Change…filling it for frustrated young Muslims is Jihad…

    • M. Noonan February 27, 2015 / 1:03 am

      I’m for amnesty – but not while this particular group of people holds power. I’m more and more convinced that they really only want it as a means of importing a lower class which can be easily controlled…if we were importing engineers, doctors, miners, farmers, mechanics and the like, then it’d be different…but they just want drawers of water and hewers of wood for their own purposes.

      • Amazona February 28, 2015 / 10:34 am

        I think the first thing to do is define “amnesty” To many, it seems to mean rewarding people for breaking our laws, by giving them all sorts of goodies up to and including citizenship. I suggest that if we were to go back to the actual meaning of the word, which is forgiveness of a penalty for an illegal act, conservatives could OWN the word, and all the benefits of being identified as pro-amnesty, while at the same time promoting a careful legalization of the illegals who deserve to be allowed to stay, removal of those who have broken our laws, and stabilization of the immigration issue.

        We would first have to pass laws making it a felony to be here without authorization, said laws to go into effect at the end of a mandatory registration period. Registration would convey immediate authorization to be here, pending investigation and approval of the next step. As of the next day after the expiration of the registration period, any unregistered alien in the country would be a felon, and upon apprehension be required to spend time in jail—say, six months—followed by deportation and permanent banning from the country. I think many who have been arrested and not shown up for trial or jail, and/or those who know they won’t pass investigation for any of other reasons, will voluntarily leave during the registration period.

        Passing the investigation would result in true amnesty—-that is, forgiveness of the penalty for being here illegally, which is just a fine. At this point, whoever put the plan into place owns the word, and is officially the party providing amnesty.

        Passing the investigation would convey a probationary work permit, good for a year, renewable to a ten or fifteen year time frame upon passing certain qualification tests—–basic English usage, understanding of our health care system (no, you do not use the ER for anything but emergencies) and other culture guidelines, so immigrants can function in AMERICAN society. Allow a renewal of this work permit, if you like, but we never, NEVER, allow citizenship to anyone who has chosen to bypass the normal routes to citizenship followed by people who respect this country and its laws. This is Plan B, for those who “just want a better life” and who have proved themselves to be contributors to our way of life, who have not been arrested, who have jobs. There cannot be any crossing the line between this and Plan A, which is following the law from the get-go.

        I believe that the ability to legally go back and forth between the United States and the home nation would result in hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of families of workers returning home, rather than have to learn English and fit into this alien and frightening culture, because the breadwinners could visit their families, do seasonal work if they want and be assured they can return the next work season. This would remove a huge number of those who are now crippling our health care and educational systems, while being humanitarian in making it possible to retain family relationships back home. There was a time when young men could support their families in comfort and even an elevated lifestyle by working in the US for several months a year, legally, and using their wages to buy homes and necessities for their families back home. Now they are faced with the choice of not having families or having them trying to survive in poverty in the US, isolated from their own extended families.

        This sloppy use of the word “amnesty” makes it hard to actually get to the heart of the issue, and benefiting the Left, which thrives on confusion and redefinition of terms. I suggest that we get organized.

        (1) Pass a series of laws that allows us to get our arms around the problem. That is, making it a felony to be here without authorization (while simultaneously providing a reasonable way to become authorized), establishing a solid border protection plan, working on a way to make sure that those who stay here can become assimilated and promoting assimilation, etc.

        (2) Enforce the new laws, investigating those who have registered and gradually getting rid of those who did not register and who did not leave on their own, as they are discovered, jailed, and then sent home.

        (3) Establish ourselves as the party which owns the word “amnesty” by correctly defining it and then applying it. This would include forgiveness of the penalty for staying or being here illegally, establishing a process for easing immigrants into participating in and assimilating into our culture by making sure they understand our language and how to function in our society (the language requirement would also mean that children would be better able to function in our schools, thereby getting an education while not holding back native Americans because of their language difficulties) and in general welcoming and helping immigrants while dealing with the other problems of illegal immigration.

        (4) Establish ourselves as the party which is compassionate and humanitarian, respectful of other cultures, and committed to solving problems while considering the needs of those most closely affected.

      • M. Noonan February 28, 2015 / 11:34 am

        We do need to change our manner of speaking about the issue – what the MSM isn’t reporting is just how horrific it is for the illegals because of our refusal to control our border…because we don’t control it doesn’t mean it is uncontrolled: every inch of it is firmly controlled…it is just controlled by criminal gangs because Obama has abdicated American authority. We should be pointing out the number of murders, rapes and robberies that Obama’s policies cause…and will cause more of if we just ratify his illegal amnesty.

        Of course, strict border security is an absolute prior requirement if we’re to get the GOP base on board with any sort of immigration reform. It must be convincing that whatever happens, this is the very last time we’ll have to deal with a vast number of illegal immigrants.

        It is clear to me, as well, that we must terminate the absurd “Family reunification” aspect of immigration…just because Fred decides to pack up for the U.S.A. doesn’t mean we need to eventually get his great-grandmother and second cousin, once removed. We should be very careful in how we select our immigrant population. I’d roll it like this:

        1. Speak English? Move to the head of the line.
        2. Farming/Mining/Manufacturing skills? Move to the head of the line.
        3. Degree in medicine or engineering? Move to the head of the line.
        4. Have a bucket of money to invest? Move to the head of the line.
        5. Lack at least one of the four listed above? Um, maybe you stay home until you’ve got something to give, huh?

        Refugees should be handled on a case by case basis – but I wouldn’t just allow all refugees to immediately enter the U.S. economy…I’d make some place where they can be housed and cared for but until we’ve carefully reviewed their case, they are unable to enter American life. Yes, it would be a sort of prison existence (though a nice, comfortable prison), but I think this important – if someone is really fleeing another country for their life, then I want them to be able to come to a safe place…but I don’t want them to just be here and start claiming asylum while they build a new American life before we’ve even determined if they are really refugees….having refugee camps would ensure that only real refugees – people who have it so bad that an American prison is an improvement – will apply for refugee status.

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