The GOP base is furious with the GOP leadership – and one of the major bones of contention is the way the leadership is handling immigration. Out of this has come the rise of Trump to the utter dismay of the GOP leadership. So, what to do? Clearly, the times call for the GOP leadership to stab the GOP base in the back on immigration!
The upcoming appropriations legislation would massively expand the foreign worker program, quadrupling the issuance of low-wage visas, according to an analysis from Sen. Jeff Sessions’ (R., Ala.) office.
The H-2B visa program allows employers to hire foreign workers to come temporarily into the United States to work either in nonagricultural labor or a temporary service job. For example, some workers who use the H-2B visa program could be employed as a housekeeper, an amusement park worker, or a landscape laborer…
This is all about importing low-wage workers to replace American workers so that Big Corporation can squeeze out just a little more profit. Why the heck would the GOP sign on to this? I’ll tell you why:
1. The major GOP donors wanted it.
2. The GOP leadership didn’t want a fight with Obama going into 2016.
As for the first bit: screw the GOP donors. We don’t need them. Only inside-the Beltway nitwits give a darn what the mega donors think. As for the second bit – the GOP leadership doesn’t want a fight but the GOP base does. We’d love to have a fight over expanding a program to bring in more low-wage workers! Give it to us! Let’s have Obama and Hillary try to defend that stupid idea at the behest of Big Corporation.
But, we won’t get the fight because our leadership is afraid (seriously) that the MSM would look negatively on such a thing – as if anyone who will vote GOP, ever, pays the slightest attention to what the MSM says.
This action will only make the GOP base more angry – and will allow Trump to gain even more support. Cruz and Rubio needed a knock-down, drag-out fight with Obama and, by extension, Hillary…the GOP leadership gave them craven surrender. What can they say now? Vote for me, I’ll get the people I serve with in Congress to fight for you?
I’m ready to throw up my hands here – what can I possibly say to a Trump supporter? That Trump is irresponsible? That he can’t get things done for our side? Compared to the current GOP leadership Trump is a responsible, hard-working warrior for the Middle Class…
Trump is in the enviable position of not having to cash those checks his mouth keeps writing like Rubio and Cruz do with every vote so he’s just attained Obi-Wan Kenobi status. This latest budget monstrosity was passed with a bullet-proof majority of Republicans in both the House and Senate, provided by a GOP base who performed that miracle for them expressly to avoid this. But the result is the same as if nothing had changed and the Democrats still had control of both houses. The negative impact it brings on the people will be immense but this time the reality is slapping them in the face that they’ve been betrayed by their own party and that there is little hope left of changing it through the election process. We’ll be lucky if they vote for Trump or anyone running on a Republican ticket now because it’s obvious this leadership abhors their base. I think if the DNC actually ran anything that didn’t walk and talk like a Socialist, they’d win.
Paul Ryan Betrays America: $1.1 Trillion, 2,000-Plus Page Omnibus Bill Funds ‘Fundamental Transformation of America’
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/16/paul-ryan-betrays-america-1-1-trillion-2000-plus-page-omnibus-bill-funds-fundamental-transformation-america/
Maybe it’s a good thing we didn’t elect Mitt Romney seeing what his hand picked running mate just did. And maybe I will be voting for Donald Trump. Maybe we do need someone like Trump to go in and blow the damn place up. Shawny is right, we may as well have Pelosi back in charge, but the fact that it is Ryan is sooo disappointing. Wasn’t he a budget hawk?
Through the Breitbart link I found this 2013 quote from Paul Ryan as he was pandering to an immigration crowd:
This is the American Dream. This is the American idea. Look, put yourself in another person’s shoes, which if you’re in elected office, that’s what you kind of have to do that almost every single day. The job we have–and what we do is we take different people’s perspectives. The gentleman from India who’s waiting for his green card. The DREAMer who is waiting. We take all these different perspectives. We process it through our values and our morals and our principles. And then we come up with the answer to try and solve this problem. That’s basically what we do in our jobs.
So according to Ryan, it is our elected representatives job to accommodate the needs and desires of foreigners. We have to “put ourselves in another persons shoes” and determine how best to resolve their problems. At a time when the middle class is disappearing, more Americans out of work than ever before, and a migratory crisis at our borders, I would think that the exact opposite of what Ryan stated should be the priority of our representatives, but through this budget deal, the establishment GOP has shown their true colors and because of that, today I am changing my party affiliation to independent and am now leaning strongly to voting for Donald Trump.
If Ryan could put himself in the shoes of the American taxpayer now, he’d find his keester full of boots.. As Rush Limbaugh has stated, whatever is worse than betrayal, that’s what this was.
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In this seemingly unabated march toward global progressivism, ie: marxism, which has just been aided and abetted by the Paul Ryan cartel, I found this directive in the new Climate deal:
(a) Holding the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels…;
So in a world where we have a billion people living without electricity, extreme poverty in many countries and regions, and senseless slaughter of innocent people, our global elites actually believe they can control the temperature of the planet and have made it a priority.
This is a disconnect from reality that is mind numbing.
American Thinker has a harsh article this morning, calling Paul Ryan, Nancy Pelosi with a beard. Here are their bullet points taken from the omnibus passed yesterday:
o He’s giving $1.6 billion to resettle illegal aliens rather than deport them.
o He is fully funding Obama’s illegal amnesty.
o He is fully funding Obamacare.
o He is fully funding Planned Parenthood and their baby cutting tactics.
o He is allowing Obama to bring in hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees.
o He is fully funding the EPA’s program to shut down coal-fired power plants.
o He is going to add hundreds of billions of dollars to our national debt.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/12/time_for_paul_ryan_to_go.html
GOP SENATOR GIVES SCATHING SPEECH: ‘PAUL RYAN’S OMNIBUS BILL IS WHY VOTERS ARE IN OPEN REBELLION!’
http://conservativevideos.com/gop-senator-gives-scathing-speech-paul-ryans-omnibus-bill-is-why-voters-are-in-open-rebellion/
A meta-observation, it is fascinating to watch the members of this board transition from “Trump is interesting but God, no I won’t vote for him” to “how can I vote for anyone other than Trump?”
I’m not saying everyone is on the Trump train. I, personally am not (yet). But one by one, that train is picking up passengers here at B4V and I’m finding the process absolutely fascinating.
I think it’s fascinating that in spite of the massive dose of reality just applied via 2 by 4 upside the heads of the voters on both sides of the aisle, anyone still believes the solution will be who is elected president in 2016. That anyone still believes either party represents anything but their own corrupt self-interests and the power to preserve them. That anyone still believes this is a Democrat VS Republican battle. That battle has already been lost. Both parties have been infiltrated/subverted by Progressives, Globalists, Facists. The battle is now between globalists and nationalists. We’re on the verge of losing that one as well if we fail to unite under a strong nationalist leader who wants to preserve and protect what’s left of this country and any control we have over it. It’s likely that the GOP leadership is not as scared of a Trump presidency as we would like to hope. Given the level of control they appear to have over Congress they may not care who is elected president at all as both Democrat and Republican administrations have danced to their tango, herded us down the same path to attain their same goals, just as Congress demonstrated with the Omnibus spending bill. This totalitarian train isn’t waiting for the 2016 election so why are we still waiting for a Trump or anyone else to follow or to save our country?
Oh, and Communists……[b]DHS CHIEF PROMISES TO PROTECT MUSLIMS FROM ‘MCCARTHYISM’
Johnson confirms his grandfather was eyed for communist connections[/b]
http://www.wnd.com/2015/12/dhs-chief-promises-to-protect-muslims-from-mccarthyism/
I’m so sick and tired of the whine about “McCarthyism” and its adoption by people who should know better. McCarthy might have been kind of a jerk, and made some mistakes, but he also called attention to some very real problems.
Now he would be ignored, as we have open supporters of things that once upon a time would have gotten people kicked out of government—-a homosexual-pedophilia NAMBLA-loving advisor to Obama, a Muslim apologist in the White House, an openly racist AG who blatantly ignores or enforces laws based on race (and replaced by someone just as bad) and so on.
I am not on the Trump train yet and still hope Rubio can get traction. Cruz is my second choice, and after that it’s ABH – anybody but Hillary
I’m still ABT – anybody but Trump…until the general. Hillary is vastly corrupt and would be a complete disaster as President…Trump might be just as much of a disaster, but I don’t know for sure…so, a battle between Hillary and Trump, my vote goes to Trump. I’m still hopeful that something will turn up…still even have some hope that Sanders will win Iowa and New Hampshire and derail Hillary, as well.
I’m not on the “Trump train” either but after yesterday he is looking less offensive to me. We got such a slap in the face from our elected GOP people, my admitted emotional backlash reaction was that Trump really couldn’t do much more to shove this nation down the Death Spiral, and perhaps some over the top attacks on establishment types from both parties would be a good thing.
The only thing Cruz and Rubio can possibly do now, I think, is to try to out-trump Trump, creating as much distance as they can from establishment Republicans and counting on appealing to those of us who are ready to dump them all.
I did a quick look at the Republican Senators who voted for the bill and compared that to Republican Senators up for reelection in 2016, and found only four. I think I heard that McCain is not going to run again, and that leaves Mulkowski (AL), Kirk (IL) and Thune (SD). They are either very very secure in their seats or don’t care about coming back next year.
I would like to see a panel of all the Republican Senators explaining why they voted the way they did, with questions put to them by a couple of serious moderators. They owe us that. Ditto for the House. Maybe we need a vociferous TEA Party kind of uprising demanding this of them.
In a private email conversation after the bill had been passed out of committee and sent for a vote I said that as a cockeyed optimist with faith in Ryan and some others I wanted to believe that there was some back story that would explain this. When it passed, with some Republican support, I was mostly disgusted but there was still a forlorn hope that the story might not be over.
And maybe it was well founded.
“Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said Thursday that House members will vote on a rollback of ObamaCare as one of their first acts of 2016.
“When we return in January, the House will put an ObamaCare repeal bill on the floor and pass it and put it on the president’s desk,” Ryan told reporters Thursday. “We are going to keep working to give families relief from this law while we work to dismantle and replace it altogether.”
The vote on the legislation, which has already passed the Senate, will set up a veto battle with the White House just ahead of the State of the Union address.
After its passage, President Obama would have 10 days to veto the bill. Lawmakers’ vote to override Obama’s veto is doomed to fail and would take place on Jan. 26, The Associated Press reported Thursday.
The bill is the product of months of work by GOP chairmen in both chambers to repeal as much of ObamaCare as possible through an obscure budget process known as reconciliation.
Reconciliation, which can only be done when one party controls both chambers, allows Republicans to send a bill intended to dismantle ObamaCare to the president’s desk for the first time. Unlike other legislation, a reconciliation bill can be passed with just 51 votes in the Senate.
While the bill does not fully repeal the law, it would eliminate the most significant pieces, including requirements for everyone to buy health insurance and most businesses to offer it.
The bill would also defund Planned Parenthood, a measure that has been long sought by anti-abortion advocates after a string of viral videos targeting the organization surfaced this summer.
When asked Thursday why the government spending bill does not defund Planned Parenthood, Ryan said the only way to get the bill to the president’s desk is through reconciliation, which limits what types of provisions can be included in the bill.
“It’s the vehicle we chose long ago. We knew we couldn’t get it to the Senate any other way,” he said.”
http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/263589-ryan-promises-vote-to-roll-back-obamacare-next-month
True, as the AP has noted, the bill will be vetoed, without substantial support from Dems, who voted en masse in the Senate for the bill that recently passed. But strange things happen every now and then, and this new bill targets two of the most controversial aspects of the omnibus bill, which put up a defensive wall around them by surrounding them with scare tactics such as shutting down the government at Christmas. There is a lot of support for defunding PP, and Obamacare is pretty much loathed throughout the country, and legislators who pay attention to their constituents know this.
Hey, it might just be a ploy to try to diminish the rage at Ryan and other Republicans, an effort to cancel out their vote on the omnibus bill by giving them a forum to vote the right way. I don’t know. But it is an interesting scenario to watch, and who knows, maybe a coalition has been achieved where enough Republicans give the Dems some of what they want in exchange for giving us the ability to defund PP and get rid of the most punitive aspects of Obamacare.
I do like Ryan and hope he has an end game to this disaster that they passed this last week. 2016 should be year that Congress puts a lot of common sense legislation on Obama’s desk for him to veto to show to everyone where Obama’s allegiance lies – with the left, not with Americans.
Every veto will generate a response from every constituency, sending a message to legislators about what they will have to do to keep from alienating their voters, making some Dems face the choice of bowing down to the Dem establishment or honoring the wishes of their constituents and possibly keeping their seats.
I’d like to see a series of Obama vetoes of popular bills resulting in the same kind of internal revolution in the Dem party we are seeing in ours.
Rusty
Not a sing one of Stuart’s comments were deleted. He is smarter than you and provides cohesive arguments.
No, it seems that YOUR comments get deleted, not simply opposing positions.
There are some things the right president can do to address some of the bullet-point items in Cluster’s post. (Uh-oh—did I just commit a microaggression by using a term so inherently related to gun violence?)
The vastly expanded power of the EPA is due to a presidential decree, an executive order.
Ditto for the unlawful approval of amnesty for illegal aliens, and related expenses.
Ditto for the importation of hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants.
Ted Cruz’s commitment to immediately overturning most of Obama’s executive orders would eliminate these issues.
I believe the expansion of the size, scope and power of the IRS is somewhat dependent on executive orders, and in any case can be dealt with by eliminating the IRS as it currently exists, replacing our current tax system with either a flat tax or a consumer tax. That would require a proper legislative process, but I think there is ample support for it.
Cruz has also said he would eliminate some agencies.
I would, for example, vote for a comprehensive immigration bill that allowed for productive but illegal immigrants to qualify for extended work visas and eventually for green cards, after they pass a pretty rigorous investigation, and I would move the displaced IRS personnel who are not ready for retirement into that investigative agency. By the time the backlog of immigration investigation is completed, most of the former IRS agents and personnel would be ready for retirement, and would simply not be replaced.
I recently read an article on a guaranteed income plan, which would supposedly increase employment because low income welfare recipients, who now supposedly hesitate to take low paying jobs because they get more on welfare would be able to take those jobs, as their guaranteed income would not be affected by outside income. Perhaps we could address the very real problem of getting more income on welfare than by implementing a plan that does not decrease welfare payments for a period of time after a recipient takes a job, tapering off the welfare payments until they disappear within a certain period of time—whether or not the person keeps the job, or a job. Most of us have had to keep jobs we hated, because we had bills to pay, and have also understood that if we wanted to make more we had to become more valuable as employees, getting degrees or working harder to move up the ladder. These are lessons that will be hard to learn for people used to getting money just because they exist, but they are lessons that must be learned and put into practice if we are going to, as a nation, have a productive work force and a vibrant economy powered by productive workers.
COMPLETE INTERVIEW: George Stephanopoulos Interviewes Donald Trump On “This Week ” (12/20/2015)