President Trump and a Sane Foreign Policy

Compare and contrast: Donald Trump, called ignorant, stupid and crude by the Expert Class, manages to at least get the ball rolling on a settlement of the Korean War and the de-nuclearization of Korea. The Expert Class (Conservative and Progressive, makes no matter in this case) is the same sort of people who got us into the Korean War without a declaration of war, expended 33,000 American lives – along with many hundreds of thousands of Korean and Chinese lives (as well as blowing everything above a hut in North Korea to pieces) – and then said, “ah, heck with it: lets just settle for a stalemate.” A stalemate which has now gone on for 65 years, continues to cost lives and, until just yesterday, carried a real threat of renewed fighting at any time.

Who is actually dumb? Heck: who is actually insane?

Reading the comments from Expert Class people on social media after Trump concluded the summit, I kept getting angrier and angrier. These people clearly wished that Trump had failed – and are hoping against hope that it will still fail at some future point. I got the distinct impression (and I’m not the only one) that they’d prefer a bloody war to result in Korea, as long as we lost it and they could pin the blame on Trump. Look, I despise the North Korean regime as much as anyone – just as I despise all tyranny, and especially tyranny of the Communist variety, because it is so invariably anti-human. But I also don’t want the sons and daughters of America to die in war unless it is necessary – and I sure as heck don’t want them shoved into another war to bleed and die and then not be allowed to win. I tend to think this is a rather sane way to view things.

Trump is trying to get something better. Maybe the North Korean regime also wants something better? Sure, we can count on it that they will try to wring every advantage they can out of this and you can rely on it that they’re plans don’t include the creation of a pluralist democracy. What can we do here?

1. Nothing and hope that the North Korean regime merely dies, and doesn’t decide to take out South Korea in it’s death throes.

2. Go to war and expend a lot of lives destroying the North Korean regime, and then spend a couple decades rebuilding the place.

3. Try to work a deal where they become a non-immediate threat and are able to slowly build themselves up over time (which does carry a risk that a richer North Korea might eventually become more militarily powerful than a poor North Korea…but, ultimately, that is more South Korea’s problem than ours, and as long as South Korea maintains their first-rate military, such a problem is contained).

I think Option 3 is best. Others can have a different view; I understand and respect that…but what we’re getting from the Expert Class is a clear hope that everything goes to heck in a hand basket, just so they can blame Trump. So, heck with them. They’ve pushed a foreign policy for decades which has proven not just a failure, but an insane failure. Time to move on.

And that, I think, is what President Trump is doing: moving on from the framework of the past. The President is abandoning the post-WWII settlement in favor of a new idea that if we strenuously pursue American interests, good things will follow not just for us, but for the whole world. The Expert Class hates this idea, mostly because they hate the idea of the United States going forward and carrying the world in it’s train. But for those of us who believe we’re the good guys, then we see it is a logical that if we do things to sustain ourselves, that will help us and all the other good guys in the world.

Who benefits from a weak America? Not us. Not the forces of freedom and decency. Who benefits from a powerful America? Us, and the forces of freedom and decency. We’ve tended to go weak ever since WWII. Even under supposedly Conservative governments, we have bent the knee to such things as the UN and have deliberately refused to flex our full power on the world stage. This hasn’t been done for any rational reason – it as been done for the insane reason that our Expert Class doesn’t believe we should be too powerful (you should look into Expert Class commentary after the fall of the USSR…they were worried that without the USSR to keep us in check, we’d destroy the world, because we’re stupid redneck deplorables). As the Expert Class can’t actually make us non-powerful, they have set up a system of treaties, organizations and agreements which says we can’t do things unless the rest of the world agrees we should. We’ve been hobbled and made unable to stay completely out of foreign entanglements while also not being able to finish conflicts once they come up.

We’ve been forbidden to be either Isolationist or Empire. And what have we got for this? Well, the aforementioned Korean War. But, also, Vietnam War. The ongoing Global War on Terrorism (which will hit its seventeenth anniversary this September; keep going and a couple years from now young American men and women who weren’t even alive when the war started will get the privilege of being killed in it). Various other small wars for our own involvement but let’s not forget things like the Bosnian War; the Rwandan genocide; the mass migration of people; the various failed States around the world; the destruction of our own morality (done primarily to crush our spirit and make us docile)…it has all been wrong, and insanely wrong, at that. We’ve really done nothing right. And the people who have done it all wrong are now standing up and telling us we must not follow Trump on this. Nuts to that.

I’m fully aware that Trump might fail. Anyone who attempts anything risks failure – it is in the nature of things. But one thing I can’t see me agreeing to is to keep going on with the same, old insanity. We’ve tried it. We given the smart guys who are supposed Experts their chance…and we’ve got piles of corpses and a demoralized world now prey to the worst among us as a result. No, thanks. I can’t say what, exactly, will work to fix on this, but it will be something other than the insane Experts are prescribing. Maybe Trump has got it figured out? We’ll find out over the next couple years and I’m willing to give him time. And if he fails, I’ll agree to try something else…but not what we’ve been doing. That is over and done with and only Progressives and Never Trump haven’t figured that out.

62 thoughts on “President Trump and a Sane Foreign Policy

  1. Retired Spook June 12, 2018 / 6:45 pm

    Unsurprisingly, the Left’s nearly unanimous response to this first meeting has been beyond the pale. If Obama had done the same they’d be nominating him for a second Nobel Peace Prize.

  2. Amazona June 12, 2018 / 7:21 pm

    One thing that cracks me up is the hysteria about Trump “legitimizing” North Korea, or Kim.

    I can see why some are ticked off at the approach of flattering Kim and making a big deal out of him. But I don’t see what they would expect to gain by calling him names, showing contempt for him, and treating him like dirt. Trump is a negotiator, and he knows that the first step is to get both parties in the same room and not fighting. Kim has a massive ego, which has been made clear in many ways. So the smart approach is to play up to his ego. Duh.

    These people are so funny, as they wail and moan about Trump showing Kim some respect—as they are the same people who swooned over Obama’s deep reverential bows to various tyrants and his fanboi attitude toward Hugo Chavez. We still have Lefties holding up Chavez’s success in destroying a once-great country and starving its people as the epitome of political brilliance, something we should emulate.

    They carry on about the miserable lives of people in Kim’s North Korea, yet they hope Trump’s efforts to change that will fail. Like Maher, they are completely comfortable with the idea of other people suffering, if it will advance their own agenda. Or, in this case, merely halt Trump’s.

    • Cluster June 12, 2018 / 9:48 pm

      And remember the media fawning over Obama’s outreach to Cuba? Swooning over his attendance at a baseball game with Raul, and commenting on how quaint the 1950 Studebaker’s were. How times have changed.

      • Amazona June 13, 2018 / 11:07 am

        I know. I was amazed to read Lefty excitement about seeing all those wonderful “classic” cars on the roads of Cuba, totally unaware of the ugly fact that they were there because that’s all the Cubans could afford.. When the Castro Utopia came in, the only cars in Cuba were the cars already in Cuba, and it became necessary to find ways to keep them running. The Lefties thought their use was just “quaint” as if it was a version of Old Williamsburg and not a symptom of poverty.

        I had forgotten about the lovefest between Obama and Castro. I guess I never quite got past the love affair between Obama and Chavez.

  3. Cluster June 13, 2018 / 8:23 am

    So let’s briefly talk about insanity – ie: Morning Joe

    Democratic Congressman Tim Ryan proclaimed that “those with the most friends win in the end” – meaning Trump has alienated all our “friends” and now we will lose. This is taught in the 3rd grade and I am glad to see that Tim retained it.

    Joe Scarborough is lamenting the loss of conservatism within the Republican Party with the loss of Mark Sanford (take a few minutes and laugh at that one), and predicting a HUGE blue wave in November because how “stupid and ineffective” Trump is.

    And this was just one segment ……

    On another note – I have never been really publicly political, meaning on social media or even at gatherings I stay away from politics because it is usually a lose/lose exercise. That has recently changed though. I am incredibly impressed with what Trump has accomplished and I am tired of the whiny ass liberals who don’t appreciate anything so yesterday I noticed a friend had posted a mindless Trump bashing post so I lit him up. We will see where the friendship goes from here hahahahaha

    • Amazona June 13, 2018 / 11:16 am

      The anti-Trumpers, mostly those who got kicked off Red State for being insane about their irrational loathing for the man, are upset that Sanford lost, having “forgiven” him for having a strange affair and disappearing for days, WHILE IN OFFICE—but won’t let go of what Trump may or may not have done more than a decade ago, as a private citizen.

      The Left does not own hypocrisy, though they have nearly perfected it. The alleged conservatives who seethe at every Trump victory and desperately want, beg and pray for him to fail are just as bad.

    • Amazona June 13, 2018 / 1:36 pm

      Cluster, I think it is good to let Lefties know that not everyone agrees with them. If there is some comment that most people do agree with them it is a perfect time to point out that disagreeing with a Lefty, or at least a Leftist point of view, seems to always lead to being called a racist, a Trump humper, a white supremacist or some such ugly thing, so we tend to just keep our mouths shut—but deep down we think these Lefties are not very smart because of what they believe.

      One thing that freaks a Lefty out is to ask why he or she voted for Obama. The answer is always something like “because I believe in gay marriage” or some such thing—and they are amazed and surprised to learn that the president has absolutely no authority or control over whatever favorite issue prompted them. When you get to asking what it is about the political system the Dem supports and enables, that is where they fall apart—because they simply do not know. They have no clue. They think they are voting to feed the children or for fairness or equality.

  4. Cluster June 13, 2018 / 8:43 am

    Asking advice on immigration from former Homeland Security chief Jeh Johnson is like asking the Buffalo Bills for advice on how to win a Super Bowl.

    • Amazona June 13, 2018 / 11:13 am

      ..or asking Robert De Niro for advice on how to write a really classy Tony acceptance speech….

  5. Cluster June 13, 2018 / 9:05 am

    Re: our immigrations policies as it pertains to women and children. Shouldn’t we be asking where in the hell are all the Latin men who fathered these children and why are they not taking care of their responsibility? For once I would like to see black and brown men take pride in their own country and their own families. In other words, grow a pair and become a man.

    • Amazona June 13, 2018 / 11:12 am

      But the urban black culture has celebrated the advent of “baby daddies”—-males (not really MEN) who inseminate as many females as possible, counting up the number of offspring but never providing fatherhood or financial support for any of them. Females (not really WOMEN) lined up to be impregnated, because babies are tickets to the Uncle Sugar giveaway events held every year by the Dems.

      These sperm donors got publicity, were on TV bragging about their kid count, and treated like superstars, at least by their peers.

      Yet scorn for what passes for black “culture” these days is rewritten as being based on skin color and not on integrity or character.

      • Cluster June 13, 2018 / 6:58 pm

        Amen. It’s a huge problem and not just in this country.

  6. Cluster June 13, 2018 / 5:49 pm

    This is is what I watched this morning, with a smile in my heart. Joey and John obsessing over Trump:

    JOE SCARBOROUGH: It has devolved into a cult. Primary voters in the Republican Party have devolved into a Trumpist cult.

    JOHN HEILEMANN: It’s clear that conservatism, liberalism, voting records, none of those things matter, it’s a cult of personality and the president has an extraordinary hold over his base. Cult of personality is one good description for it. For all of the people out there, at various times everyone at this table and me, all of us who have sat and said, why are Republicans afraid of Donald Trump? Why do they — why will they never cross him? He’s terrible, he’s this, he’s that they should have the courage of their convictions and stand up to him. This is a good example. Mark Sanford didn’t even really stand up to him, but President Trump brings the wrath and Mark Sanford loses his job. The fact is, if you get on the wrong side of Donald Trump, his power over his base is significant enough that he can kill you, regardless of how conservative voting record is. Regardless of your history in the Republican Party. Regardless of your ideology, regardless of everything else, if he wants to put a target on your back, he can and will.

    SCARBOROUGH: The Republican Party is not a conservative party. It’s not conservative intellectually. It’s not conservative physically. It’s not conservative temperamentally. You look at everything whether, from Edmund Burke, through Russell Kirk, through William F. Buckley. Straight into Ronald Reagan. What’s happening today is an aberration of all of those things. That’s fine, I wonder where conservatives go now.

    Where do conservatives go now? Hmmmm … good question Joe. I always thought conservatives were for lower taxes, a growing economy, less regulations, a smaller government, our Embassy in Jerusalem, strong military, securing the border, and expanding individual opportunity so I suppose those conservatives will stay with Trump. As for where your style of conservatism goes, I don’t much care but could give you some ideas if you’d like. And you can take Bill Kristol, George Will, and John Mccain with you.

    • Amazona June 13, 2018 / 8:43 pm

      “It’s not conservative physically.” ??? How can you be physically conservative? This nonsense is just proof that these people have no coherent political philosophy, but are just dependent on identity Politics.

      And wait just a minute—-out of one side of Joe’s mouth no one should give Trump a pass based on his political actions because once upon a time, when he was a private citizen, more than a decade ago, someone who has sex for money claims that she had sex with him and wants money for her story, BUT when Mark Stanford went completely off the rails while an elected public servant, had an affair, and then disappeared, them invented some cockamamie story about hiking when he was in South America with his girlfriend, we are supposed to overlook it because of his political actions? Did I get that right?

      You covered a good list of conservative agendas, but Joe and his ilk are actually rooting for the NoKo summit to fail, for nukes to remain in North Korea, for Kim Jong Un to renege on his promises no matter what dangers that might pose to millions of people—because Trump.

      And BTW, conservatives are not afraid of Donald Trump. RINOs probably are, Libs definitely are, and Joey and the Bimbo pee down their legs in terror because of Trump. People who want the best for the country, not so much. But in the spirit of the saying that even a blind pig finds an acorn, sometimes, Joey did trip over a truth—-the GOP is not conservative. Conservatives realized that a lot time ago, including many who were conservative in their political views but for emotional reasons still voted Dem. It was the people who realized that the GOP is not conservative who elected Trump.

      I am the first to admit that Trump used absolutely crappy tactics to get rid of the truest conservative in the race, Ted Cruz. Some justify this by saying Cruz would not have won. Personally, I think he could have—-he is a much better communicator than Trump and has a much more coherent political philosophy. I still dislike Trump for how he got the nomination. A good friend was a delegate and on the rules committee and she texted me from the convention, and she said the Trump team’s strategy and actions were absolutely filthy and despicable. But he won, and then I voted for him, and now I am happy to see those tactics used against the Left. Ted Cruz is a decent man who never learned to fight dirty, and I resent what happened to him. But the Left is so much worse than Trump ever was or ever could be, and the best thing in the world is to watch him dismantle them.

      As the LL Cool Jay character on TV once said, “Only a fool trips over what is behind him”.

      • Cluster June 14, 2018 / 7:22 am

        That’s an excellent way to put it. Trump’s tactics were dirty and unbecoming at the time against a an honorable guy, but Trump has been a student of politics for well over 40 years and I think he knew better than others, what it will take to win against the left and purge the deep state. I firmly believe now that Trump is 2 or 3 steps ahead of everyone. And when Trump said that he has been thinking about North Korea his entire life, which drove the left nuts, he actually has. I saw an interview from 1987 where the Donald was talking about North Korea and the possible dangers it poses.

  7. Cluster June 13, 2018 / 6:57 pm

    Sadly in my opinion Steve Hayes has just became a horses ass and joins the ranks of his buddy Bill Kristol. I have always liked Steve but he completely dismissed the North Korean summit and faulted Trump for not making human rights front and center. And now Steve is obsessing over Trump’s remark that NK was no longer a nuclear threat, claiming of course that is untrue. As if that “off the cuff” figurative comment was remotely important. Thank God for Molly Hemingway.

  8. Cluster June 14, 2018 / 7:31 am

    Here’s what’s happening to Tommy Robinson:

    Fears for the safety of Tommy Robinson are mounting after it was revealed that he has been moved to a heavily Muslim-populated prison in the United Kingdom and has already been on the receiving end of death threats.

    This is how the UK treats it’s citizens and journalists? The left in Europe has destroyed that continent ………. hopefully the good men in Germany will step up and obliterate this 3rd world Muslim invasion, because I just don’t think the men from Denmark, France, etc. have what it takes.

  9. Cluster June 14, 2018 / 8:13 am

    Joe Scarborough just said that Trump admires Kim Jung Un because Kim has the autocratic power to kill whoever he wants whenever he wants. And I am not making that up …. he has lost his f***ing mind

    • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 1:14 pm

      I think Joe was just confused, flashing back to when Barry said he wished he could be president of China because it would be so much easier than being questioned on his decisions.

      Joe Scarborough is just a whore. There is no way he is as stupid as he had decided to act on TV. He figured out the price of his dignity and then he sold it.

  10. Retired Spook June 14, 2018 / 10:27 am

    Meanwhile the good economic news just keeps coming. To play on the old adage, “if a tree falls in the forest…..” if the economy surges 4% but the MSM doesn’t report it, does anyone know? I can’t imagine that people who didn’t have a job who now have a job don’t know. I can’t imagine that people whose 401K has jumped nearly 40% since Trump was elected don’t know. I can’t imagine someone who got a nice raise or a large bonus at the beginning of this year doesn’t know. I can’t imagine the small business man or woman who is re-investing his or her tax savings in new plant, equipment or personnel doesn’t know. The only people who probably don’t know are the ones who rely on government for their daily existence.

    • Cluster June 14, 2018 / 10:58 am

      Perfectly ok with that ….. you can’t change the past but you can shape the future and that usually starts with simple recognition. By the way, had Trump been President 30 years ago, this country would A LOT better off ….. he saw the danger before anyone else did

      • fieldingclaymore June 14, 2018 / 12:29 pm

        You are just like the Obamabots. Better St. Ronald Maximus of Dixon? The hell you say!

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 1:31 pm

        Huh? Tinfoil hat alert!! Bring the stretchers—–this one over here is way too tight!

    • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 1:17 pm

      Really, he should have followed the Left’s advice on how to get along with people and denigrated the NoKo military, treated them like—-well, now that I think of it like Obama and Clinton treated ours—-and refused to show any respect whatsoever. What better way to get a nation behind its leader’s agreement to meet with you? What better way to get an egomaniac to the negotiating table? Yeah, don’t salute the commie basterd—spit in his eye and tell ‘im what you really think of ‘im. That’s the ticket.

      • fieldingclaymore June 14, 2018 / 1:19 pm

        I am not against him talking to Kim, I hope it works. I just know you would would have pitched a fit if Barry did it. That is all.

      • Cluster June 14, 2018 / 1:44 pm

        Because Barry is not half the man Trump is. I prefer a real man to conduct our diplomacy, not some weak intellectual moron who thinks setting our thermostats at 72 offends the world.

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 1:53 pm

        But….but…but…Trump. A symbol of respect for a nation which was brought to the negotiation table by a combination of carrot and stick is supposed to, well, mean something bad. Not sure what, but it must be bad, because, Trump.

        Oh, I know!!! Call on me, call on me! I read it online! Saluting a foreign officer during international negotiations really means that President Trump is legitimizing a brutal dictator and condoning genocide! Seriously, check it out—-a lot of people are saying this, and if it’s on the internet it has to be true.

        Because, Trump…..

      • fieldingclaymore June 14, 2018 / 2:57 pm

        You two are in the cult of Trump. MAGA

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 5:10 pm

        And automatically hating, loathing and despising Trump and anything he does, might have done, might ever do, or has been accused of doing is proof of—-what, exactly?

        You know what we notice about you, fielding, and your kind? You hit and run. You dart in, try to drop a turd in the punch bowl, tuck your tail and run. You never stick around to talk about anything. You never express or explain a coherent political opinion. You never defend your snot-nuggets. And we know why.

        Because you can’t. It’s like there is this abscess of mental pus, an infection of the mind and spirit, and you have to find some way to relieve the pressure. So you squirt it out at anything you think of as “conservative”.

        If you ever find an actual thought in that mess that squirts out of your mind, come back and we’ll chat. Otherwise, we’ll just avoid the eruptions.

      • Cluster June 14, 2018 / 4:20 pm

        If that means positive, productive, capitalist growth and strong defense then SIGN ME UP. Happy to be called a Cultist by a progressive loser.

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 5:38 pm

        “…who thinks setting our thermostats at 72 offends the world….”

        Merely EXISTING offends the world, if you are white and have a job and love America.

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 5:49 pm

        I am not against him talking to Kim, I hope it works. I just know you would would have pitched a fit if Barry did it. That is all.”

        Well, we wouldn’t have minded seeing him act like a statesman, as long as he didn’t have his ass in the air like one of those old drinking duck toys paying homage to something around the level of the other guy’s belt buckle.

        We did “pitch a fit” when Barry hugged Hugo and fawned over him and wandered around with that goofy blissful look on his face clutching Hugo’s book to his bosom. We weren’t at all happy about his little Cuban lovefest, complete with baseball game with Raul and his praise of the workman’s paradise of Cuba, complete with political prisons.

        But you see, Barry’s crush on dictators was never a prelude to anything constructive. It was never part of an overall plan of smoothing the path to negotiations that might save millions of lives. His fawning over various thugs, tyrants and dictators was just because they had common ground in Leftist belief systems and to give him another chance to compare their countries, unfavorably of course, to ours.

        Trump’s paying of respect to a leader and a country and its military is part of an overall plan involving negotiations affecting millions of lives, with effects that will go far beyond the Korean Peninsula into our relations with China. It was part of an entire scenario, of what diplomats and leaders do as they meet to talk about grownup stuff.

        Barry was just on his Apology Tour and sucking up to his heroes, the ones who are not hindered by a pesky Constitution and a busybody Congress and an annoying sometimes-free press, as he admitted when he said it would so much easier to be president of China.

  11. Cluster June 14, 2018 / 11:12 am

    Alright, time to light the religious morons up:

    Leaders of the Catholic church are criticizing the Trump administration over its border protection policy, saying that separating mothers who illegally come into the US from their children is ‘immoral’.

    WRONG ASS HAT. What is immoral is allowing your children to be subject to governments. Where in the hell are all the Hispanic and Latin fathers? Why in the hell are their countries falling apart and their children seeking refuge???? These men are worthless and need to be called out as such.

    Here’s my message to all the virtue signaling “religious” hypocrites, quit pointing the fingers, use some of the millions of dollars the Catholic Church has and start fixing the problem. No one is holding you back. Show us all how virtuous you really are.

    • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 1:29 pm

      Our problem is, we are dinosaurs, stuck in a past that evidently has no relationship to today. In our past, parents were charged with protecting their children. That was their job. Now, the children belong to the State (remember, it takes a village to take over your parenting responsibilities and duties) and are treated as such. When they are inconvenient, they can be killed off, if you get to them early enough. If they manage to be born, then their highest and best use is for propaganda—those little tykes make really moving photos. Smudge a little dirt on them, yell at them till they cry, and it’s gold. Pack them up and send them off across one big country to another, for a good photo op at the border—it’s not as if you have any responsibility for their physical welfare, the state of their emotions, or any silly thing like that. Any trauma experienced will be due to big mean white men at the border, not at being abandoned and sent off with strangers for a long and miserable journey.

      And if you want to break American law by sneaking across the border, be sure to take some small children with you, because the bleeding hearts will focus on them and never stop to say to you WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING, dragging those poor children into a dangerous situation with you?

      In this Brave New World (a term which, by the way, the New Left uses without irony because they simply do not understand the reference and think it sounds all, you know, brave and new and stuff) children have no intrinsic value as human beings. They can be killed at will, parted out for profit like old Buicks, sold into sex slavery to entertain former presidents, used as pawns in political games, and in general aren’t worth much till they are old enough to vote or riot.

    • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 1:40 pm

      A big problem with the Catholic Church is that it has slid to the Left. It started with Vatican Two, and most lately got a shove onto the more slippery slope when it elected a South American with an inborn bias against capitalism and for Leftist politics as Pope. (In South America, capitalism is not much like what it is here, and he brought that experience with South American capitalism and his knee-jerk reaction to it into the Vatican with him.)

      When its newly recruited homosexual priests started preying on post-pubescent boys, it went along with the lie that this was ‘pedophilia” to help hide the homosexual aspect of the crimes. Pedophilia is sexual attraction to or interaction with pre-pubescent children, but the homosexual-protecting lie implies that men were messing around with little girls. No, men were seducing vulnerable boys who had reached puberty. When nuns started advocating for abortion, it turned a blind eye. The Pope has a well-publicized private meeting with Nancy Pelosi, whose open advocacy for abortion helped legislation to enable them and pay for them. The Church lacks the spine to stand up to sinners. The dogma says that no one with a mortal sin on his or her soul can receive the sacraments, aside from confession (in which the sin is confessed and forgiven) or last rites, but few if any priests, much less the Pope, stand behind that major teaching and allow people who advocate abortion, enable abortion and vote for people who legislate for abortion or rule in courtrooms in favor of abortion to participate in Mass and even receive Communion. The Church is diluting its religious aspect in favor of joining the Social Justice Warrior cult, and much like Islam is hiding its politics in a thin veneer of religious belief.

      If you want to see how strong the Church is and how much effort it puts into moral issues, just look at Ireland. The country just amended its Constitution so abortions are now legal, and Catholic hospitals will be forced to perform them. Individual Catholics may stand up for their beliefs, but as an organization the Church is “evolving” into a much more secular, Leftist, movement.

      And as such it basically tells people they don’t have to respect the laws of the United States, that the US owes them homes and food and educations and medical care, that they are in the right to challenge American laws, and furthermore the Church preaches this to Catholics who were brought up to respect its teachings. Jesus taught His followers to respect the laws of Caesar, but modern Catholics are told by the Church that laws don’t matter.

      You are right. The Church could go across the border, intercept potential lawbreakers, provide food and educations, teach these people how to survive in their own country. The Church could work to change the government of Mexico so it could start to take advantage of its natural resources and become as prosperous as the US. But it won’t.

      • Cluster June 14, 2018 / 2:48 pm

        The Church is diluting its religious aspect in favor of joining the Social Justice Warrior cult, and much like Islam is hiding its politics in a thin veneer of religious belief.

        Beautifully said …….

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 5:35 pm

        But don’t write off Catholics. Last year I attended a Mass where the priest, in his homily, said Catholics should read what the Pope writes, so we know what he is saying and it is important to know what he is saying—-and not to worry that reading the writings of the Pope will constitute heresy.

        I nearly fell out of the pew. Some rude parents wouldn’t take screaming infants to the cry room, so I missed a lot of the homily, but it was clear that this Pope is not universally liked or respected in the traditional Church. Even the church I go to regularly pretty much just avoids mentioning him.

  12. Retired Spook June 14, 2018 / 11:59 am

    No one is holding you back. Show us all how virtuous you really are.

    Come on — actually BEING virtuous is hard, reeeeeallly hard. One has to be committed to some seriously basic principles to actually BE virtuous, doncha know.

    • Cluster June 14, 2018 / 2:48 pm

      Dammit !!!

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 5:36 pm

        I know. Spook is such a buzzkill.

  13. Cluster June 14, 2018 / 5:06 pm

    I will leave this here …..

    Lisa Page: “[Trump’s] not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

    Peter Strzok: “No. No he won’t. We’ll stop it.”

    • Retired Spook June 14, 2018 / 9:18 pm

      I hope they were better at solving crimes than they were about stopping Trump.

      • Amazona June 14, 2018 / 9:34 pm

        Well, we saw how they handled the Hillary Clinton crimes—–according to the FBI, it doesn’t matter what you do if you didn’t do it with the intent of breaking the law..

      • Retired Spook June 15, 2018 / 10:08 am

        If setting up a private, off-the-books server to avoid scrutiny and FOIA requests doesn’t constitute intent, I don’t know what does. But the Espionage Act doesn’t require intent, so it doesn’t really matter. The fact, as has been stated many times here, is that the Clintons are allowed to ignore the rules that govern the rest of us.

        The one aspect of the IG report that boggles my mind is the conclusion that there was no political bias associated with any of Comey’s rhetoric or actions.

      • Cluster June 15, 2018 / 10:28 am

        The one aspect of the IG report that boggles my mind is the conclusion that there was no political bias …..

        That’s just the IG laying cover for the deep state. They all know each other, they all attend the same parties, their kids go to the same schools, and they certainly don’t want to destroy any careers or make anyone feel uncomfortable. It’s an incestuous swamp.

  14. Cluster June 15, 2018 / 8:02 am

    You would think the statement below from the IG report would be news, but of course it’s not. Morning Joe has yet to report on it so obviously it’s a non story. But did you hear that Trump wants to have a summit with Putin ??

    Our ability to identify individuals who have improperly disclosed non-public information is often hampered by two significant factors. First, we frequently find that the universe of Department and FBI employees who had access to sensitive information that has been leaked is substantial, often involving dozens, and in some instances, more than 100 people. We recognize that this is a challenging issue, because keeping information too closely held can harm an investigation and the supervision of it. Nevertheless, we think the Department and the FBI need to consider whether there is a better way to appropriately control the dissemination of sensitive information.

    Second, although FBI policy strictly limits the employees who are authorized to speak to the media, we found that this policy appeared to be widely ignored during the period we reviewed.

    We identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters. The large number of FBI employees who were in contact with journalists during this time period impacted our ability to identify the sources of leaks. For example, during the periods we reviewed, we identified dozens of FBI employees that had contact with members of the media.
    Attached to this report as Attachments G and H are link charts that reflects the volume of communications that we identified between FBI employees and media representatives in April/May and October 2016.

    In addition to the significant number of communications between FBI employees and journalists, we identified social interactions between FBI employees and journalists that were, at a minimum, inconsistent with FBI policy and Department ethics rules. For example, we identified instances where FBI employees received tickets to sporting events from journalists, went on golfing outings with media representatives, were treated to drinks and meals after work by reporters, and were the guests of journalists at nonpublic social events. We will separately report on those investigations as they are concluded, consistent with the Inspector General (IG) Act, other applicable federal statutes, and OIG policy.

  15. Cluster June 15, 2018 / 8:17 am

    Joe Scarborough is LOSING IT. He is completely obsessed with Donald Trump. He has tried everything he knows to discredit Trump but has failed every time and now is becoming dangerously unhinged. It’s actually fun to watch.

    What Joey fails to realize is the reason why his efforts are so futile – and that is that Trump is 10 times the man he is. Joey is nothing more than a failed southern lawyer with a couple of unimpressive terms in Congress who now regurgitates propaganda on TV. That is unimpressive by every measure.

  16. Cluster June 15, 2018 / 8:26 am

    I wonder if MSNBC realizes that they denigrate Americans every day. Jon Meecham just said that all Trump voters “sold their soul” for the Supreme Court. Do they think this is a winning strategy for 2018 and 2020?

  17. Cluster June 15, 2018 / 11:09 am

    Not all children. Only those children of Democrats will be put in concentration camps. At least that’s what Trump said:

    During an overwrought panel discussion on Friday’s MSNBC Live With Stephanie Ruhle, former Barack Obama campaign staffer Stephanie Cutter and political analyst Michael Steele took turns comparing illegal immigrant detention centers along the U.S. southern border to Nazi death camps.

    “We can’t find a solution to this problem without harming children? Without putting them into concentration camps?,” Cutter pleaded. Steele doubled down on the extreme rhetoric: “I call this a concentration camp for kids because that’s exactly what it’s turning out to [be]. When you give kids 22 hours of lockup time and two hours of air time, what else can it be?” He then went even further, offering viewers this ominous warning: “And if this is where this country is going, the American people need to wake up and pay attention. Because your kids could be next.”

    • Amazona June 15, 2018 / 8:39 pm

      …American people need to wake up and pay attention. Because your kids could be next….if you are so irresponsible that you drag them across foreign borders without visas or break the law yourself and then procreate without any concern about what dangers you are exposing your children to. or if you callously use them as pawns in political theater .”

      There. Fixed. And we can put Michael Steele on the list of failed experiments. Like Obama, his only qualification for his job was his skin color.

  18. Retired Spook June 15, 2018 / 12:31 pm

    Good perspective by Mark Levin on IG report.

  19. Amazona June 16, 2018 / 11:27 am

    Poor befuddled TDSer Erick Erickson illustrates what it means to have one foot in the boat and one foot on the dock.

    His loathing of Trump is so all-consuming it is eating him alive, but as a public commentator he also wants to be seen as objective and fair. So he gives a reluctant nod to Trump every now and then, though almost always with a “….but…” at the end.

    This article is a great example of what happens when the internal conflicts get too great. First he tries to establish his cred by going through all the Republicans he has dissed—without explaining why, which leaves us with the possibility that these conflicts were not matters of principle but just of bias. He then has to go through his list of Trump gripes and complaints, many of which if not all are simply misstatements of what happened (Trump ignores NoKo miseries, instead of merely doing what has to be done to relieve them, etc.) and then throws in some tepid nods to Trump at the end. Not really nods, just observations that at least Trump isn’t doing this bad thing or that bad thing.

    (Speaking of the claim that Trump’s treatment of Kim was legitimizing the NoKo brutality, dismissing the crimes against humanity, blah blah blah, this is a point of view that depends on one of two perspectives—-and in some cased on both simultaneously. One is simply Trump Hatred—everything he does is stupid/evil/indefensible in pursuit of a malignant agenda. The other is the limited perspective of only seeing snapshots in time. Yes, in this precise exact moment something creates an impression—but the point of view has to be expanded. Is this the entire event, or merely moving a piece on the board in pursuit of a greater goal? I suggest that Trump realizes that the ways the Kims have been treated in the past have led to or at least not ended the brutal treatment of NoKo citizens, and that he believes their misery will not be reversed until the leadership changes its direction if not its actual personnel, so his end goal is the alleviation of the misery of the people and his recent actions are efforts to put that goal into motion. The TDS maniacs and the snapshot-in-time-is-the-whole-story people are all wrong. Loud but wrong.)

    • Retired Spook June 16, 2018 / 12:52 pm

      Good analysis. As I see it there are only two valid, although not necessarily viable solutions to the tyrannical abuse in NK: a military solution (which is not really a choice) or figuring out a way to nudge the Norks to join the world community of nations. It’s pretty clear that Trump is pursuing the latter while not dismissing the former. If we didn’t know anything about how Trump built his empire, what he’s attempting in NK would seem a bit Pollyannish. In reality, all it is is Trump being Trump. I would not bet against him.

      • Amazona June 16, 2018 / 7:38 pm

        “… pursuing the latter while not dismissing the former….”

        Classic carrot/stick strategy

        Kim Jong Un has been ridiculed, denigrated, derided, and scorned by pretty much everyone in the world whose opinions he can’t control, and probably even by many of those. Then all of a sudden the most powerful man in the world, who has done his share of this kind of dismissive behavior, reaches out a hand and says, essentially, “I’ll not only stop doing this, I’ll get everyone else to stop, too. I’ll set up a world stage and share it with you, and give you credit for being there. I’ll make you a superstar. All you have to do is stop being such a jerk.”

        So Kim gives it a try, and by golly, he is being praised, honored, feted, and treated like an honored member of the Leaders’ Club. Sure, he can go back to his ugly old ways, but that would mean losing face. He would be telling the world the Kim presented by Donald Trump is false, and the real Kim Jong Un is the bully-boy weakling he had been known as until this offer of redemption. And he wouldn’t be in the club any more. He’d never get close to the club again.

        Then there is what he would gain by reneging on his word, balanced against what he would lose. He can be praised, congratulated for his courage, celebrated for being the first North Korean to bring his country out of the stone age, or he can go back to the reputation of being stupid, backward, and most of all, weak. The world would see him going back on his word as an admission he is not strong enough to lead a nation in the world, but only one that is hidden from the world.

        I loved it that Trump didn’t care what the haters and whiners would say, just saw a problem and was willing to try something radical to try to solve it, even if it meant taking a lot of heat. And I have a feeling that his true message to Kim, said in one way or another, was “If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay on the porch”.

  20. Cluster June 17, 2018 / 8:53 am

    I have to comment on this “cult of personality” that all the losers are using to denigrate Trump and his supporters in Congress. I recall a time when Harry Reid was the absolute gate keeper and would not allow one piece of legislation from the GOP House to be brought to the floor of the Senate to protect Obama from possibly having to veto or sign some uncomfortable legislation. I recall Obama declaring that he had a “phone and a pen” and didn’t need Congress and no one said anything.

    The good thing is, the Democrats and the media have lowered the bar to the point that they no longer have any standards so their criticism laughable to those of us with some short term memory.

    • Amazona June 17, 2018 / 8:36 pm

      If you were to look up “cult of personality” in the dictionary, it would refer to the entire political career of Barack Obama once he got onto the national stage. I remember seeing a magazine cover with his face and the huge headline THE ONE WE HAVE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR. His image was based on things like the carefully choreographed “swooning” at his rallies. His nomination in Denver was eerily reminiscent of old Nazi rallies—–when I saw the dramatic lighting, the huge carved columns, heard the reverb, I joked (only halfway joking) that when Obama heard that the Pepsi Center was on Speer Boulevard he must have thought it meant Albert Speer. And the whole spectacle was like something Speer would have put together for a Hitler speech.

      The Clintons had a personality cult for a while, though Hillary made it hard to keep it going. Now only the most hardcore can pretend to like or admire her, though Bill does still have a few in his camp. Nothing could explain the adoration of murderer and alcoholic Ted Kennedy or the ongoing reverence for the Kennedy name other than “cult of personality”.

      What I think is funny is that I don’t know any Trump supporters who actually like him, as a person. He is shedding some of the old obnoxious bluster and is less offensive these days, but I think a lot of people who like what he is doing as president voted for him while thinking he was something of a jerk. There are some who always thought he was wonderful, who loved everything about him, but not enough to get him elected. In many ways he was elected in spite of his personality and persona, not because of it.

      And you are right, the entire Left is based on Identity Politics. It is about being FOR someone because of a perception of what that person represents, emotionally—–feeding the children, being fair, peace, all the buzz words. It is seldom if ever about a coherent political philosophy of how best to govern the nation. We have seen that here, over and over again, as even the Libs who care enough to seek out and contribute to political blogs haven’t been able to define an actual political philosophy, at least nothing deeper than not liking mean people.

      But the power of the Left lies not in who they like but in who they hate, because they hate with a blind, overriding, passionate hatred that blinds them to everything outside their little bubble, and this hatred can be very powerful. It has carried them to great power, and made politicians like Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Boxer, et al, possible. But, fortunately, it is also creepy and distasteful, and has gotten so loud and overwhelming and toxic it is turning away decent people who had been sucked in by the promises but are finding it hard to tolerate the toxicity.

  21. Cluster June 17, 2018 / 9:46 am

    Another observation from this morning news shows. The Democrats are 110% invested in identity politics and racial division so keep that in mind the next time you hear some worthless liberal pundit claim that Trump is divisive. What they don’t realize is that most of us Trump supporters stopped taking them seriously a long time ago …..

  22. Retired Spook June 17, 2018 / 9:57 am

    One of the best descriptions of the results of Democrat governance I’ve ever seen: (from Derek Hunter post at Town Hall.)

    To hear liberals tell it, this country is fundamentally racist and killing the planet. They, however, are the gatekeepers of fixing it all. (Never mind the fact that cities where they’ve had complete control for generations – Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, etc. – are used for backdrops for movies about post-apocalyptic futures because they require so little set construction.)

  23. Retired Spook June 17, 2018 / 1:24 pm

    Just a little something to lighten your mood on a Sunday.

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