National Divorce?

We’ve all seen it around; heck, we’ve even talked about it a bit – but, more and more, I’m seeing people who say it is time for a national divorce. Not a Civil War, but an amicable divorce between Red and Blue. Kurt Schlichter has the latest entry in this. And, to be sure, just a quick review of recent events does lend weight to the idea. Think about it – in the space of a few weeks, the Blue people have manufactured two race-based events designed to support a Narrative of racist Trump supporters who must be stopped at all costs. The Covington Catholic kids were completely innocent, while Jussie Smollett’s “attackers” were paid by Smollett; and in both cases, without a shred of evidence and with the basic premise (ie, that we are violent racists) being absurd, the entirety of the Blue establishment (which, as Schlichter points out, includes the Never Trump Fredocons) rose up as one to support these slanders.

Don’t know about you, but I’m getting rather tired of being called racist, sexist and homophobic. Rather tired of my religion being held up, by turns, to ridicule and hatred. Tired of my national and historic heroes being made out as monsters (latest: Churchill was a genocidal racist). Tired of all the lies. Maybe it is time to leave?

Our Blue friends might think that a national divorce means they get all of California, but they’d be wrong about that. They’d get San Francisco and Los Angeles…San Diego if the people there opted for it (don’t think they would). They’d get NYC, Seattle, Chicago…and a few other isolated, big city spots around the nation. Hardly any place that produces any physical goods would wind up in Blue America. Perhaps the people of San Francisco can farm Nancy’s yard? They get to keep her, as well.

Because the truth of the matter is that a dozen big cities really represents all the on the ground power the left has – and I doubt they really have that power. I suspect they have rigged the election systems in those areas to ensure that they win, no matter what…and probably so well and for so long that only a tiny percentage actually vote in any given election (it would take investigation to determine the accuracy of my theory…but not as much as you might think: just have someone stand outside deep Blue precincts on election day to count the number of people who come in, and then compare it to the number of votes reported…my bet is there’d be massive discrepancies). Be that as it may: their power is very limited geographically. They seem more strong than they are because they also control popular culture and the news media.

And that is why, ultimately, I don’t think we’ll have to divorce. I think we can reconcile – if, by that, you mean “we flex the actual, real power we have and force them to bend to it”. Trump is showing the way. Will the lesson stick? Will, that is, the follow-on GOPers understand that to fight the left is to beat it? That the left has only ever won because non-left elements either surrendered to it, or helped it win? Never, not even once, has a fully leftwing entity won power solely on the support it garnered as a leftwing entity. Always, always, they have won by co-opting non-left forces and convincing other non-left forces to go easy on the left. The dirty, little secret of the last 100 years is that only a tiny minority ever wanted what the left wanted…all the left’s victories came via subversion.

If we can get a resolute GOP which will go toe to toe with the left, then eventually we’ll beat them into the ground. All it takes is a will to win – and a class of leaders who’s ultimate dream isn’t to have a spot on a MSM show, or a fat lobbying job in DC (or both). I think there are signs that we’re starting to get one…slowly, incrementally, more and more GOPers are starting to understand that Trump is winning. And, especially among the younger and more outsider GOPers, they are finding that winning is most of all fun. We’ll see how it comes out; but, for me, for now: no divorce. I want to have fun and win.

51 thoughts on “National Divorce?

  1. Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 12:40 am

    A divorce would certainly be preferable to killing each other in the streets, something I hope to avoid before I leave this earth. But I agree — I think we are on the verge of turning a decisive corner; maybe not winning the war, but certainly a major battle. The next two years are going to be pivotal. I think the events in Venezuela are working in our favor to the extent that what many on the Left want to implement here is turning out to be a failure of massive proportions in our hemisphere.

  2. rgrg2 February 19, 2019 / 12:45 am

    Meanwhile, Alabama newspaper publisher calls for “the Ku Klux Klan to night ride again” against “Democrats in the Republican Party and Democrats [who] are plotting to raise taxes in Alabama.”

    And you wonder why conservatives are called racists…

    • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 8:10 am

      That’s offensive to 99% of Conservatives. But go ahead and call us racist. Like the boy who cried wolf, you’ve played the racist card so many times it has no effect other than to make you look stupid.

    • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 8:47 am

      So the disturbed publisher of a small locally owned newspaper in a town of not quite 2,000 people is now the spokesman for conservatives? Is that where you want to go RG?

      Then you don’t mind me calling you a woman beater, anti semite, baby killer right? I mean I am just thinking of higher profile Progressives like woman beater MN Democrat Attorney General Keith Ellison, anti semite Democrat Rep Omar, and wanna be baby killer Democrat Governor Northam.

      It is time for a divorce and this is what I meant the other day when I said that I don’t give a F**K what any liberal judge says, or what any progressive politician or media member has to say. Just like RG, they have proven themselves to be agenda driven, dishonorable, and sub human. I am reminded of the old saying “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.” Conservatives have been lied to a fooled many many times by Democrats because they are reprehensible lying POS’s and it’s time to take out the trash. And you wonder why progressives are called abusive bigoted baby killers …. well now you know.

      We will steam roll all of them and I look forward to listening to them cry.

    • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 11:13 am

      Meanwhile, a gay black actor pays two black actor friends to set up a fake attack on him so he can (1) claim victim status and get lots of publicity and (2) claim his “attack” was based on anti-black anti-gay bigotry by Trump supporters.

      And you wonder why black people and gay people are called lying scum.

      See how that works?

      • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 11:31 am

        What we don’t “wonder” is that Leftists have no shame. They keep proving it over and over.

    • M. Noonan February 19, 2019 / 11:20 am

      Ok, I’ll bite: you got a link?

      • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 11:29 am

        Yeah, unlike his link the other day which was based on 2 anonymous sources who claimed to be privy to a Trump conversation, this one is pretty easy. To show how desperate the implicit, agenda media is, this one has lots of links.

        All I did was type in “Alabama”, and Google filled in “newspaper Klan.” And no, I’m not making that up.

      • M. Noonan February 19, 2019 / 3:12 pm

        Well, at least there is such a person. Now, this newspaper, which serves a town of 3,000 people: let us compare it to, say, the reach of the New York Times. Let’s see…a paper which probably has a circulation of a few hundred per day vs a paper with a daily circulation of 2.1 million and an international audience of the movers and shakers of the world. Hmmm…let’s ponder this: that little paper puts out stupid lie, the New York Times puts out stupid lie…which do you think might have more global impact?

        Hard to tell, I know…

      • rgrg2 February 19, 2019 / 9:08 pm

        I don’t recall the publisher of the New York Times calling for the return of the KKK. But really, I posted the comment because I found it ironic that on the same day you said you are getting rather tired of being called a racist, a fellow conservative calls for the return of the KKK. Maybe you don’t do irony. And certainly you folks like to tar leftists, or whatever your pet phrase is, with a broad brush. They all think in lockstep while conservatives are independent thinkers, so goes the line around here.

      • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 10:39 pm

        rgrg2, darlin’ you really need to get a grip. How about writing down what you think sounds smart and then setting aside for a while to see how it ages? Because what you blurt is just so damned STUPID you really ought to think it over.

        First, as a Leftist you don’t get to decide who is and who is not a conservative. As a matter of fact, you have made it clear you have absolutely no idea. Conservatism is a political structure, not some superficial identity based on geography or religion or whatever cockamamie criterion you might come up with.

        Second, people who do share a commitment to a certain POLITICAL model do not necessarily share anything else, and the effort to link people based not even on an accurate POLITICAL belief system but the strange, hate-based confused and bitter voices in your head is meaningless. Meaningless except possibly in a psychiatric sense, and that is above my pay grade.

        Third, “leftist” is not a “pet phrase” but thank you for reminding us of just now abjectly ignorant you are. It is actually an accurate objective definition of a certain political system and/or anyone who believes in it, supports it or defends it. Seriously. Check it out. It’s been that way for over a century, through the slaughter of the Russian royal family through Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin, through Mao and Pol Pot and Castro, through Franco and Hitler and Chavez. Through quite a long list of notable Leftists, right on to today’s Che OC and her little band of girl socialists, and basically most of the New Democrat Party. If you need a definition of “Left” as it applies to politics and are too lazy to look it up, let me know and I’ll explain it to you.

        It is increasingly clear that you are not here to discuss politics, as you so obviously have absolutely no clue about anything but that seething hatred and resentment that seems to pretty much define you. You have yet to say a single political thing, but have just blathered on and on about all the things you hate about all the people you hate and all the reasons you have to hate all the people and all the things you hate. Reasons which do not exist except in that hate-filled gaseous bubble of your own pathetic existence.

      • M. Noonan February 20, 2019 / 2:07 am

        Seeing as he got awards from liberals, who’s to say he’s a conservative? You don’t really know – you’re just assuming.

      • rgrg2 February 19, 2019 / 11:54 pm

        If you need a definition of “Left” as it applies to politics and are too lazy to look it up, let me know and I’ll explain it to you.

        Please do.

      • Amazona February 20, 2019 / 1:22 am

        Imagine if you will a horizontal line. Moving to the right of the center point is the political philosophy that the United States must be governed according to its Constitution. That is, that the federal government must be restricted as to size, scope and power, with most authority left to the states, or to the People.

        Moving from the center to the left is the political philosophy that the federal government may, and even should, be expanded beyond Constitutional limits to encompass any or all needs or desires of the people. This is a political structure which is based on a powerful Central Authority, with little power left to the states or to the people.

        Some of the Founders felt that the enumerated duties of the federal government laid out in the Constitution were adequate instruction that the federal government could never do more than what was delegated to it. But many others felt that it was necessary to reinforce this and insisted that in the first group of amendments to the Constitution, known as the Bill of Rights, this be made even clearer to avoid any misunderstanding or misinterpretation—what I call the Belt and Suspenders approach. So the Bill of Rights ended with the 10th Amendment:

        The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people

        Do you have any further questions?

      • Amazona February 20, 2019 / 2:07 am

        I gave the definition of “Leftist” in the context of United States politics. While the Left in other nations has not been defined in relationship to the Constitution of the United States, it has still always been a political system of a powerful Central Authority with very little power left to local governments or to the people. It is a collectivist system, in which the collective identity is more important than the individual. Leftist systems have little if any room in them for dissent or even “wrongthink”.

      • Amazona February 20, 2019 / 3:29 am

        Sometimes I make myself laugh. I used the term “belt and suspenders” but with a little mental twitch, as I learned a few years ago in a discussion with some British friends about How We Think We Speak The Same Language But We Don’t that in the UK the straps that go over the shoulders to hold up trousers are called “braces” while “suspenders” refers to the old fashioned garter belt.

        That flashes briefly through my mind every time I use the word “suspenders” but nothing like the vivid and unwelcome image that hit me when I read an article about Larry King that said he is well known for his extensive collection of colorful suspenders.

        There’s not enough mind bleach in the world…………

  3. JeremiahTMM February 19, 2019 / 12:58 am

    A divorce means no more dialogue, no more conversation with the left, and I can handle that. What I can’t handle is conservatives backing up and giving the left more ground. If we keep backing up, there’s going to be a cliff eventually, and ain’t gonna have nowhere else to go, but down. You know, people really don’t think hard about these things. They think, “well, let’s try to negotiate.” No, to today’s revival of Bolsheviks it’s their way or no way. I think we’re at the point where it’s “winner take all.” There is no more middle ground. The side that doesn’t fight is the side that’s going to lose. Conservatives have been so merciful in allowing the left to attack them again and again…But again, we either push, or get pushed over the cliff.

  4. Cluster February 19, 2019 / 9:08 am

    In his announcement this morning, Bernie Sanders is promising to “fundamentally transform” America to create a socially, economically, and racially just society. Now aside from the fact the Democrats treated him like red headed step child last time around, Bernie is nothing more than a tax payer fed, inexperienced, 1960’s hippie, who traded a lake front cabin for being quiet about Democrat collusion in 2016, and whose wife bankrupted a local university, so to think that this dynamic couple can bring about anything like economic justice you have to have a serious case of dementia. Or be a Democrat. It’s the same thing.

    And of course Bernie has three HUGE problems when it comes to the party he represents – his skin is too white, he has a dick, and he puts it in all the wrong places. That right there sums up the political leanings of the Democrat party. Right RG?

  5. Cluster February 19, 2019 / 9:27 am

    Let’s have a moment of reflection shall we? Courtesy of Tucker Carlson.

    “In 1987, Al Sharpton introduced the media to a young woman called Tawana Brawley. Brawley had an awful to story to tell. He said she had been viciously attacked by a group of racist white men and left in a garbage bag. She was covered in feces with racial slurs scrawled on her body, The Brawley case dominated headlines across the country for more than a year, and it bitterly divided New York City along ethnic lines. People hated each other because of what Tawana Brawley said happened to her.”

    But it was all a lie. After conducting hundreds of interviews, a grand jury declared the entire story fraudulent, none of it actually happened. Brawley fled the state, a judge ordered Al Sharpton to pay for damages for accusing innocent men of rape.

    A divorce is long over due.

    • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 11:45 am

      My first thought when this Jussie Smollett story first broke, was that there was a good chance it was a hoax. I at least withheld judgement or even commenting until more facts were known, unlike many high profile figures on the Left like Cory Booker and Kamala Harris. Bottom line, I can’t ever remember anyone on the Right EVER doing anything like this. Creating and exploiting victim status is almost exclusively a Leftwing dynamic.

      Time to find a good divorce lawyer. I’ll bet Alan Dershowitz would take the job.

  6. Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 12:14 pm

    Hardly any place that produces any physical goods would wind up in Blue America.

    And even the ones that did are being abandoned by the Left at a stunning rate. Disaffected blue collar workers in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Ohio are a big part of why Trump won. In addition Democrats have aborted so many black babies in the last 46 years, 90% of whom would have voted Democrat, that it’s no wonder they’re concentrating on attracting undocumented voters from south of the border.

  7. Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 12:33 pm

    I love the first line of Dennis Prager’s column at Town Hall this morning:

    Truth is not a left-wing value.

    He absolutely nails the Left’s “divorce” from the truth.

  8. Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 12:42 pm

    And the hits on AOC just keep coming.

    In all fairness, neither of her degrees is in math.

  9. rgrg2 February 19, 2019 / 1:16 pm

    Oh, you mean you don’t like to be associated with the worst impulses of people on your side? I’m so surprised. Probably other people don’t like it either.

    • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 1:23 pm

      He swings and misses — AGAIN!

      And you can associate us with whomever you like. We know the truth, and like I said, we’ve read your playbook.

    • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 2:18 pm

      RG, so are you telling us that you too are a baby killer and woman beater like Northam and Ellison? That’s one hell of an admission. You haven’t distanced yourself from them so what are we to think? You obviously agree with them so please RG, stop beating women and don’t kill any more babies. Other people don’t appreciate it. Particularly the Jews. Oh wait, you hate them too.

    • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 2:21 pm

      Conservatives aren’t as racist as RG wants them to be …

    • R. Murphy February 19, 2019 / 3:18 pm

      Perhaps if the left doesn’t want to be associated with their worst they should stop cheering them on?

      • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 11:05 pm

        Good one, Murph

    • rgrg2 February 19, 2019 / 5:13 pm

      Next you’re going to tell me there are some “very fine people” publishing the newspaper.

      • Ryan Murphy February 19, 2019 / 7:14 pm

        You are continuing on as if we were supporting your narrative instead of not giving a flying you know what about that one idiot with a paper in a small town, who bears no relation to us.

      • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 10:49 pm

        rgrg2, the gift that keeps on giving.

        You know, rg, there might be some online sites where things can be read to you, so you don’t have to go the trouble of actually reading them yourself. Maybe something like that would help you be less ignorant. Though it won’t make you less dependent on hate, spite and malice.

        You seem to think Next you’re going to tell me there are some “very fine people” publishing the newspaper is witty. And you are not even half right.

        It has been well publicized that when President Trump commented that there were some very fine people involved in the Charlottesville protests before they turned into riots, he was talking about the very fine people who went to the site early to try to defuse violence and protect historical artifacts. So when you sneer something as utterly stupid as your comment, it is not witty, and doesn’t even qualify you as a half-wit (which would be a rise in rank) but merely as witless.

        But gee, as a Leftist, referring to riots held by fellow Leftists, I would think you would prefer to have them praised by the president. You’re kinda confused, aren’t you, fella? Got all tangled up in all that hate and spite, eh? Can’t keep your insults straight? But who cares—they sound snotty when you type them, and that’s really all that matters, right?

        (Oh, that’s right—-you don’t even know what a Leftist IS, do you? But you feel qualified to post on a predominately politically oriented blog. Hmmmm. Could it be that you are just a troll, with no other agenda than polluting the site and hurling insults?)

    • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 10:19 pm

      You are the one deciding who is on whose side. Whatever floats your boat—but from what I have seen it is floating on sewage and often in danger of going under completely.

  10. Cluster February 19, 2019 / 2:26 pm

    Here’s a good example of how bone deep stupid RG, and his media friends are:

    KATY TUR: The Beat with Ari Melber starts right now.

    ARI MELBER: Hi, Katy. I wanted to wish you a happy Presidents Day.

    TUR: You know, it is George Washington Day here in New York, unlike the rest of the country, because George Washington: native son of New York.

    MELBER: Big up, big New Yorker. East Coast.

    TUR: That’s right.

    MELBER: He was known as an East Coast one.

    TUR: He was New York’s big papa.

    Rather than pointing out the obvious, I wonder if RG could tell me what is wrong with this. So RG, what is wrong with this recent exchange between Katy Tur and Ari Melber?

  11. rgrg2 February 19, 2019 / 2:55 pm

    After expressing outrage that he could be associated with a conservative racist, right on cue Cluster associates a couple of examples of behavior with me and the entire left. I knew it wouldn’t take long, since from what I’ve seen, this is Cluster’s most common M.O. Cluster, you have the self-awareness of a banana slug.

    • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 3:18 pm

      Not so much fun when your own tactics are turned around against you, is it? Get used to it — we’ve studied your playbook.

    • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 3:42 pm

      RG, so let me get this straight. A small town publisher of some unknown paper espouses some racist views and you immediately link to that ALL conservatives …. YET when the same tactic is employed against you, as I did, you scream like a little school girl.

      Have I got that right baby killer?

      • rgrg2 February 19, 2019 / 5:15 pm

        lol. I use the same tactic on Cluster that he uses on Casper–oh wait, I’m Casper–and now he’s outraged.

      • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 10:59 pm

        uhhh, rgrg2—–it is way too much of an exaggeration to say anything you say could be described as a “tactic”. Tactics call for brain power, thought, planning and execution.

        What you provide is more like a shart—-something that is a cross between, well, you figure it out. Suffice it to say it’s like a little explosive expulsion of something stinky at best and foul at worst, and sometimes both.

      • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 5:35 pm

        Outraged? Projection much

    • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 3:42 pm

      And can you tell us what is wrong with the exchange between Tur and Melber? I am guessing you can not.

      • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 3:56 pm

        In the past the Moderator would simply have banned rgrg2 after his second or third post, and we would have never gotten the chance to see him make a fool of himself over and over. Pass the popcorn.

      • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 10:52 pm

        In the past posters who made it clear they were not here to engage in actual discussions but just to expel mental feces were not tolerated, and as rgrg2 has pretty much defined himself in those terms I don’t expect him to be around much longer. But for a while anyway it is fun to watch the stupid and ignorant parade their stupidity and ignorance. We have to remember, when in their own gaseous little bubbles admiring each other’s mental farts, they never hear facts, so this is probably very new to him.

      • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 5:36 pm

        Like Amazona says …. he’s a speed bump with the intellect to match

    • Cluster February 19, 2019 / 6:55 pm

      Well RG, I gave you plenty of time but you have failed to answer so I am assuming you don’t know the answer ….. which doesn’t surprise me.

      George Washington was born and raised in Virginia. He is Virginia’s favorite son, not New York’s. They use to teach that in school. It was right after the transgender studies class

    • Amazona February 19, 2019 / 10:23 pm

      rgrg2, you are such a hoot. Thank you so much for your ongoing contributions to hilarity on this blog. There are times I think you are just playing along, acting stupid to keep the joke going, but then I realize no, that’s really who and what you are.

      Cluster posted a parody of your commentary, and it went right over your head. It was so obvious, to paraphrase a TV commercial even a cave man could have understood it.

      But then you had to top it off with a snarl about HIS “self-awareness” !!!

      What a wonderful post, rgrg2. Thanks for the laughs.

  12. Cluster February 19, 2019 / 4:01 pm

    Great interview … not too good for CNN’s narrative though. And a heads up, listen for when the CNN anchor says “we are all about facts here at CNN” – I laughed until I cried.

    • Retired Spook February 19, 2019 / 4:55 pm

      Facts, smacts — CNN wouldn’t know a fact if it bit them in their collective a$$. Great interview. Based on the answers he was allowed to give, I thought I was watching FNC.

  13. Retired Spook February 20, 2019 / 2:06 pm

    Great thread. I had forgotten how much fun it is to mess with Lefty trolls, especially when they keep sending their B Team.

    • Amazona February 20, 2019 / 2:51 pm

      …when they keep sending their B Team… or, in the case of rgrg12, their water boy or the guy who delivers the sandwiches—peripherally associated with the team but not privy to the playbook, just mindless sideline cheerleaders. The kind of cheerleader that goes crazy when its own jersey is charging down the field, even when it is going the wrong way and ultimately scoring for the other team.

      Poor rgrg2 comes in here in full pedal-to-the-metal attack mode, going after anything he thinks is, is related to, is connected to or just kinda sounds like conservatism or Trump, and it turns out he is admittedly utterly clueless about the fact that the team he is trying to support and enable has a name, has a definition, has a playbook, has a history, and it is all ugly and sordid and brutal and destructive of personal liberty. All his feeble little mind has been able to wrap itself around is “Trump Bad”, and a few tasty little lies fed to him by his masters that he particularly liked.

      But you’re right, Spook, it does have some entertainment value.

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